Now, in 2013, Moyes is still treating players like shit. Oviedo, Vellios, Barkley, Duffy etc and Stones will be the next... Forward planning? I don't think so. Unless you are a choirboy or part of the clique, forget being in Moyes's plans. If yer face don't fit, you ain't playing.

I think Moyes has felt all the criticism from the supporters this season and thought if the board don't support me which they havent I will see my contract out and leave with dignity having almost got a CL place and/or some silverware as a legacy.

His comments of earlier in the season of "I don't want to outstay my welcome" and "The supporters will let me know when they have had enough of me" are starting to ring bells as was the window fiasco.

His face after the transfer fiasco was a picture and not a pretty one at that.

Also, I honestly think this article is optimistic — assuming Moyes is gonna stay is a dangerous assumption to make.

His appearance on Sky last night may have possibly pointed to a new career path for the next couple of seasons.

The timing would be about right for a sabbatical, if he thinks he is in line for a bigger job than Everton. You never know in football, maybe Fergie has him lined up for Man U!!

Although I agree it is odd that he would make a signing like Stones if he intended to jump ship.

To adapt a phrase of Churchill, some jigsaw, some piece. Whatever the plan was on that occasion, it didn't work.

If this is part of a carefully planned scheme how do you explain the lateness of the attempted transfers in January? DM is making plans without getting the green-light from BK who then has to bust a gut to catch-up? Doesn't seem credible to me, especially if you believe what the manager publicly says about the chairman and their close working relationship.

My assessment (based on the mediocre information available and previous events) of the deals for Oviedo, Fer and Stones goes like this:

Oviedo - we had some cash from the sale of Jack Rodwell and we desperately needed some squad cover for the left hand side. Relatively cheap and versatile and eager to please, but the sparsity of his appearances suggests he is not considered redy for the job yet.

Leroy Fer - BK realised that no transfer activity in January would be viewed as a dereliction of duty and a failure to back the manager, who recognised that his engine room was looking particularly jerry-rigged and gaffer-taped. Was able to scare-up the possibility of a short-term loan but was actually terrified of using the money, so the plan was always to find some bargaining chip (like a previous injury) and use the 'pressure' of a late deal with a club that had earmarked replacements, in order to minimise how much money was actually spent up-front. FC Twente didn't capitulate as hoped and the deal collapsed.

John Stones - identified as a 'possible', but became 'essential' when it became obvious that no other deals would happen in January, and that other premier clubs were willing to give him a go. Undoubtedly 'one for the future' - ie, in 2 or 3 years time - in the eyes of the manager and not a direct replacement for JH for next season.

I don't see a carefully constructed and applied master-plan I'm afraid. I see make-do-and-mend and being reactive rather than proactive.

The day the supporters get wise is the day we can get rid of this money-grabbing double act who answer to no one. (What fantastic jobs they both have, FFS posters, wise up!) Moyes and Kenwright out, after 10 years of not winning fuck all, and never winning a league game at Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd or Liverpool. (we will never beat Liverpool with Moyes in charge... even if they were bottom of the league, he would still fear them!)

Time for a change as a lot of up-and-coming new managers are moving their teams forward with less money and gates than Evertion get: Swansea, Southampton etc...

I wish Moyes well, I think that in general he has been fantastic for EFC given our dreadful financial position. Nothing will change when he goes though because the same tiny minority of fans will always believe that they know more about management and coaching than people who have spent their lives in the game. Some will moan whatever EFC manage to achieve against the odds.

Incidentally, I think it would be a mistake for both of those clubs to enlist his services, but hope they do.

I agree with James Stewart. I'm not convinced Moyes will be here next season. It must be clear to him that he's never going to get the financial backing that he needs to push this squad up another level. We have been sitting around the 5th-8th slots for a while and while Brenda can go out and spend £20m in the summer and another £20m in January Moyes is supposed to compete with tuppence.

Square pegs??? It's hardly revolutionary!!

Two examples close to home: Michael Ball anyone? Only size stopped him being a regular centre half for me as he was better there, a tremendous player. For my money, if he was a few inches taller, Hibbert would be a nailed on centre half. When he has played there has looked very good. From full back he's had to develop the aspect of his game that doesn't come naturally, attacking full back play, by necessity. He's a pure defender and for me more naturally a central defender who was possibly brought through as a full back due to size, just like Bally.

Regarding the bringing through of youngsters, here is an interesting article in the Telegraph about the barcodes January activity and the culture of English football:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/9865554/Newcastles-successful-January-transfers-expose-major-flaw-in-English-football.html

Contrary to many I think he's gone anyway.

If Moyes saw even have the money from any player sales this year I would be surprised. Even then, the whole world and it's mother would know he actually had some money to spend for a change. Prices would go up.

Can't wait to see who Billy Bullshitter brings in and how quick the posters will turn on him if he doesn't beat Man Utd at Old Trafford.

I wouldn't blame him for leaving, this will be the best job he will ever have but I imagine him thinking, "Enough is enough". No new players when we are still in touching distance of 4th and with all the other players twatting about looking forward to new faces etc.

See you Moyes, the King is dead, Long live the King (Laudrup will do)

On the main point, call me optimistic but I don't see Baines leaving, not this year at least. Fellaini I think will definitely go, probably to Chelsea where he would fit in well with their playing style.

If we sell him for around £25m, why would we sell Baines? He seems like a pretty unassuming lad who seems happy at Everton and has never given any indication that I can remember of being desperate to play in the CL, so I don't see him pushing hard for a move. The Fellaini money will go towards a couple of other players and the bank, same as the Lescott money.

Hopefully, as with the Lescott deal, we end up with a stronger overall team, although I'll be sad to see Fellaini go. I think Baines would be a bigger loss than Fellaini in many ways anyway though.

My comment is....The Plane, the plane

Seems unfair in a way. Its a straight swap of values, one in monetary form, the other on flesh and blood. Does the tax man own a percentage of a player's leg?

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/eimanual/eim64115.htm

On the late Distin replacement he remarked. "It was a very smooth transition. Heitinga has lots of experience."

The whole thing is quite shameful. His disgraceful treatment of Duffy, Vellios and Ovieda is surely not the way to do things.

Even if Moyes was to stay he'd probably want all the Fellaini money as well as another 15-20M on top which would realistically give him a chance of breaking into that top 4. Doubt he will get that and seems inevitable this time around he will leave.

On a program I watched, it was when Alex ferguson came to Manchester United from Aberdeen he said his philosophy at that time was (and still is) to build the club with youth players and compliment them with signings.

Another thing he spoke about was during a game there is usually just 8 players on form and sometimes 2 or 3 needed to be helped to raise their game — and this is the responsibility of the team.

One question I would like to ask is how many youth players from 4-5 years ago have played more than 10 games in the fist team, and how many are still at the club?

On a slightly different issue, football is not just about tactics and formations, it is also to do with human psychology. By that I mean all of us in life know people we respect and admire and even want to impress and that is no different in football with players and management.

Look at Ferguson or Mourinho: they command respect because they are intelligent and strong-minded individuals. Can anyone really say the same about Moyes? A nice, decent bloke, yes... but if I was a footballer I wouldn't look up to him; he doesn't impress me — actually quite the opposite after observing all his flaws over what feels like an eternity in charge.

Talking of Mourinho, has anyone seen the rumours of him returning to the Premier League with the RS? I hope it's not true because that will be 5 years of losses with Moyes in charge... but that would be the least of our worries with what he's capable of. Let's just hope Man City come in for him.

Firstly he would be under pressure to win things and would not be able to run the club like he does at Everton! I personally would swap him for any up-and-coming young manager who would give some of our young players like Barkley a chance instead of watching Neville and Osman every week.

Aston Villa have had to use the kids this season and are very up and down, but you watch them next season when the kids have had a season's experience, they will be decent after watching them play us and nearly winning! I am also impressed with Southampton's young energetic team, who ran us ragged at their ground.

The Negredo debacle was the last straw for me. It showed me what a cynical pair they both are. They had no intention of spending any money in January. The idea of CL football scares them (BK fears investing money, Moyes fears being humiliated by better managers) as it would show up so many cracks and deficiencies in our finances. Prem survival (for the board) and another juicy contract for Moyes is the limit of their ambitions IMO.

Moyes has just been sacked as manager of Chelsea – apparently they were unbeaten for a year but the fans wanted to see the team win a few games. All those boring draws were getting a bit tedious.

The Everton team sheet is youthful and their is a fresh faced young manager with a massive grin on his face (must be the £3M salary he gets). Blue Bill had a heart attack and died. RIP Bill.

Ahh the fog returns... where's me tea leaves?

My feelings on the Ross Barkley issue era somewhat different having watched him perform to astonishingly high levels as a young teenager. A sharp little wizard of dribble who could score goals. So good that even when playing for England his team-mates were often 2 or 3 years his senior.

So what happened to Ross? Well everyone knows that in 2010 as a 16yr old playing for England under 19s he collided with team-mate Wisdom and broke his leg in three places. An injury so severe it put him on crutches for many months.

Eventually he came back. Bigger, stronger but not as quick and not as sharp. In mind as well as body. Moyes promised a patient build-up and planned to use him toward the end of the season. Personally I wouldn't know what to do with him. He looks like a lost soul on the bench and needs to be on the ball. Somewhere, anywhere.

Here, have this.

Gee thanks, A prescription ?

No.....A licence to shit in the street !!