You're assuming he's been offered a new contract?

As a big fan of Moyes the coach, I am saddened that he will not re-sign. It tells me he can walk away for free at the end of the season instead of us at least getting a couple of mil from anyone that wants him.

He complains about not having funds and then talks how players should take a 30% pay cut. Well moysie put YOUR money where your mouth is. Re-sign so at least the penniless club you work for will get some compensation when you move on. Don't run down your contract so you will get better wages at the next place.

I think what gets me is how our own fans view our club. Managing Everton should be the biggest privilege and that's before you're paid £4 million a year. I'd like to think we'd have a bit more self-respect than allowing Moyes (who's won nothing) to hold us to ransom. It really pains me to read some Evertonians saying 'I wouldn't blame him if he went.'

I'd be quite happy for him to go because I'd like someone with some fresh ideas but as fans we should never be happy for someone to turn their back on our great club. Instead of trying to end the speculation, all he has done is fuel it. I wish he'd just say he's leaving then we can all look to the future.

I don't understand this viewpoint that just because a manager's future is uncertain, the players are.

Nope. Moyes, Wenger and Ferguson are the exceptions in what is very much a hire-and-fire circus, with huge financial rewards for "failure".

The players will only give a shit if their monthly quarter of a million doesn't hit the bank.

There have been similar comments on threads about players not signing contracts before and the club should use the same logic, set a deadline, if its not signed withdraw it, fuck them off and recruit a replacement with time to spare. If Gollum has some delusion he'll get a top job I the EPL he needs sectioning, he might get a job in the Scottish Pub League or Germany. If he wants to go he should grow a pair (not done it in a decade as manager) and just say so.

If he is going to do o e the club need to know ASAP not when or if no one offers him a good job in the summer, this is totally different to a player doing this, a new managed means serious upheaval.
Kenwright should grow dome balls ( in my dreams) and ask for an answer now or withdraw the offer.

Thanks for saying what everyone else is thinking, I got lambasted on here a month ago for criticising Moyes's idiotic team and player position selections, eg: Heitinga at CH, hate to say "I told you so"...

Make your mind up, Moyes – we want to know now, not in June.

I am in a similar situation to Moyes. I am under Contract to Everton. I pay for mine. Its called a Season Ticket. Like Moyes mine runs out at the end of the Season. Like Moyes I will think about my position at the end of the Season.

For me its simple, after watching Everton for 54 years, and after going to the game yesterday at Oldham, and watching the turgid football that Moyes throws at me/us, I too will consider my situation. Its simple. Moyes signs his Contract. I don't.

George Mc Kane

Totally agree with OP. Sign up and the worst that happens is we get some compo. By saying hel'll wait til the summer he is the only one benefiting . Unsettled Club from top to bottom in the interim. A massive elephant in the dressing room, no one talking about it but everyone thinking about it. As for season tickets the early bird offers get earlier every year as the Club tries to positively support the negative cash flow of players wages and in this context Moyes' wages too. I can see many taking the wait and see approach (who can blame them) with a real impact on Club finances

Or on the flip side it could be a ploy to squeeze some financial backing from the board come summer when the tv money comes in?

I don't have a problem with what he is doing personally. He wants to progress and knows the only way he can is with funds. The Everton board don't give a shit about progress. As long as we don't go down they are happy. If Moyes leaves they will just plump for a cheaper alternative to keep us up so I see virtually no upside to Moyes leaving at present for the club

Now I know people on here have no time for Twitter but this was tweeted from some 'journalist' an hour ago
Freelance journalist ‏@indykaila
Exclusive: David Moyes is ready to sign new contract with #Everton Football Club. The new contract will have clauses regarding #UCL clubs.

Make of that what you will but clauses?? Feck that were Everton not some championship club. Im a fan of Moyes but he can move on if he thinks he can hold us to ransom with 4m a year and then clauses to move if a Champions league team comes in for him

No problem, piss off in the summer Moyesie and can you please take Round, Weir, Stubbs et al with you. Bring in someone with some good knowledge of the european market and some tactical nouse. Sell Felli and give him a few quid to start re-building. Probably get someone for half of what Moyes is on, Bring the top wage down a bit too by cashing in on Fella, start selling high, buying low and reduce our debts down cause they're fuckin crippling us.
We don't need a billionaire to be a well run club. Probably too much to ask that he takes the board with him.....

Being a season ticket holder since the mid-50s, I am sick and tired of this nonsense of our manager. If he wants a new contract, ask him to sign it; if not, shake his hand and say thanks. Because I know Evertonians will continue to travel the country following the Blue shirt.

Bring in a young manager, tell him to sort out the backroom staff out get rid of all the hangers-on. We will then know what our ambitions are: mid-table and 6th Round of the FA Cup.

Colin, that journalist obviously hasn't spokedn with his peers who reckonMoyes is off to Arsenal

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-paper-round-moyes-rescue-arsenal-wenger-091820393.html

I really don't know who were gonna get as there is not a lot out there. I doubt whoever it is will be foreign. Think Malky Mackay but Cardiff have got more money than us so I'm not sure he would come. Just not Bruce or Hughes...

Phil, if we even pay half the salary Moyes is raking in, we will have a massive amount of interest in the position.

We are a top 8 P.L. club in terms of revenues, support, wages for players, and even top 5 in terms of what we pay Moyes.

Add to that the fact we are one of only 7 ever-present teams in the P.L, with a Chairman who allows the manager total control of the club- don't for one minute think we are not offering one of the most attractive positions for a manager in world football.

You would think we were some provincial shitty little club the way some fans are panicking over a new manager. ( not you BTW )

Kevin- on the other hand, we have a board which is providing the manager with virtually no money, which will make it very difficult, if not virtually impossible, for the new manager to get much higher in the league, as we are unable to compete for the best players or build a squad with any strength in depth.

I think a lot of managers would give their left arm just to be given a chance of managing us Jamie. With the sales of Fellaini & possibly a couple of others, coupled with more T.V. revenues, the new man should have a decent war chest for rebuilding.

I would probably say Martinez is a strong favourite for the position. Not my choice, as it looks like Wigan will be relegated, but he won't have to relocate, and if he has kids, they won't have to move schools.

My main concern is we cannot trust this Board to make the right choice, as they have fucked everything else up they have touched.

Colin if your report of the contract having get-out clauses in it is true, then I would say to Mr Moyes, "Sorry mate, no can do, we as a club stood by you when your teams were struggling, we stood by you when the average attendance started to fall, and we stood by you when the quality wasn't very good." Of course, BK will allow such a deal to happen, it will save him having to find someone new.

If Moyes is signed with get-out clauses, Everton FC have fallen even further than I thought; if your manager is unwilling to be 100% committed, how can you expect the players to show 100% commitment???

As regards the FA Cup, what's the odds that the big 3 left in the competition get a home tie in the next round?

***This is only a prediction***
Middlebrough or Chelsea v Everton or Oldham,
Man City v Blackburn,
Man Utd v Barnsley, and
Millwall v Wigan.
***This only a prediction***

I can't see why Moyes would need get out clauses. If another Club came in for him and he wanted to go it would be incredibly difficult to keep him. He sulks at the best of times, so his teddy (which I imagine looks like Phil Neville) would be well and truly out the pram if Manure came for him and the Dear Leader said no.

The work analogy doesn’t really … work. Unless you are thinking that when your boss moves on you might apply for his role, in which case, what are you qualifications for manager of EFC? Most of us on here seem to think we know better than the boss anyway so maybe it’s your turn, Dave.

Back on planet earth, Moysie is: (1) genuinely unsure what to do; and (2) keeping his options open. The second is self-evident. The first we know to be true because of a remark he made some weeks ago along the lines of whether a manager needs to move on after a while.

Kevin, these managers may give their left arm to manage us for a big wage but then we would have a greedy one armed manager who would probably not be as good as Moyes. We don't want money grabbers we want good managers and all the better ones probably wouldn't touch us with a shitty stick. I hope Laudrup comes if Moyes goes.

Jurgen Klinsmann

If Moyes isn't 100% committed then off you pop. In my opinion, things need to freshen up. Get £25 mil for Fellaini, 2 or 3 new faces in, and a new manager with a fresh approach. Di Matteo is available! Just a thought.

Gent's - if you have a minute, this is worth a read.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2234013/Ole-Gunnar-Solskjaer-secrets-success-Molde-manager.html

With all due respect, I don't get this.

Do you support Everton FC or David Moyes?

If Moyes leaves, will you switch your allegiance to another team?

Also, your analogy doesn't really work, unless you're a player.

I understand your frustration Dave, but I have no problem with Everton asking for an early bird purchase of next year's season ticket in March. There has been criticism on TW in the past of how weak the business / marketing side is to get in much needed revenue but in this case they are taking the right approach. As for Moyes going public with his wait and see attitude to signing a contact rather than say nothing, he might as well as otherwise it would create much speculation week to week about why he hasn't yet signed or commented on it. At least we know the story now.

I think he will depart in the summer if we don't qualify for the CL or win the FA Cup. He probably knows he hasn't got a realistic chance of managing a CL side in England until he builds up his experience, so he may try to get it in Germany or elsewhere and bide his time to come back to England in 2-3 years time. The man has integrity and may not want to sign now to up the hopes of the the (pro-Moyes!) fans only to leave it the summer. He is basically running down his contract.

He is a good, but of course fallible, manager I think. There may be no harm in freshening up the club with a new manager for next season. Like Governments in power for too long, things can get stale and a change breaths fresh air into proceedings. No one really knows if his departure will signal the demise or making of the club - only time will tell. I would hazard a guess that any manager coming in will not do better than Moyes has, at least while the current regime at the club continues.

"I understand your frustration Dave, but I have no problem with Everton asking for an early bird purchase of next year's season ticket in March. There has been criticism on TW in the past of how weak the business / marketing side is to get in much needed revenue but in this case they are taking the right approach." - I'm sorry but that's bullshit Mick. Next seasons ticket should be paid for at the end of this season, not before. Especially two whole months before the end of the season, it's not to get money for players, as the window doesn't open until August.

I will pay it of course, but it's a disgrace that they ask us to pay for next season when we are still playing this one. Extra interest perhaps to pay the banks?

Personally I am a big admirer of Moyes though I will admit he has his faults and drawbacks. Also I myself have a fear of what may happen to our club if and when he does leave unless a rich benefactor does appear before he goes. However I do believe his stance on not signing or agreeingt to a new contract is entirely disruptive the club and supporters as a whole and think it is totally the wrong thing to do. I personally would prefer him to say now that he will derfinitely be resigning or is definitely going, at least we would know one way or the other and plans could be mad accordingly and there would be no uncertainty surrounding the club. MOP is that knowing wiould be far better than the current uncertainty which is bound to affect the players despite what they and others may say.

Just to back up my view that a player can be unsettled if the manager is not committing to his future...

I am not a footballer, but work in an industry where I am fortunate (or unfortunate) to get calls regarding other jobs on a weekly basis. In the past there have been a few different scenarios (not getting on with boss, boss leaving) that have made me more responsive to those calls...

It won't unsettle 85% of our squad but the likes of Fellaini, Baines, Mirallas and Jelavic may see this as the manager seeing club as not matching his ambition, so how could it match their own!