Moyes should move for the sake of his career

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I've no aspirations to become a careers advisor – and I'm still looking for the guy who said I should become a cake decorator, but I do think David Moyes is in need of some urgent advice.

Whilst yesterday should have convinced him that his time here was spent, staying in one job for 11 years is no longer the ideal way to persuade potential employers that you have wide experience. They tend to think that you are more happy 'in the comfort zone' than prepared to 'cope with change' or 'work outside the box'.

Believe me, I've suffered more performance-based interviews than most so I know what I`m talking about!

Moyes struck lucky with Everton — or, more accurately, with Kenwright. Here was an employer whose only interest was personal survival... and oh, whatever could be done with Everton in that cause. Fair dooz, Davey has 'ticked all the boxes' and has been obscenely well rewarded for doing so.

But as The Byrds sang so long ago, "For every season, there is a time for change" and if Our Man can`t see this season is it, he`s about to find out that nothing goes on forever.

I wish him and our club no harm but like most of us I feel just one more season at Everton will see both the club and his career go straight down the pan.

So, if he's as astute as I think him to be, he'll have spotted the signs and even if it means a reduction in salary, he'll be looking to broaden his experience. Otherwise, in a few months` time, he may be the one doing the cake decorating!

Phil Walling, Ainsdale     Posted 10/03/2013 at 12:43:18

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Robert Collins
512 Posted 10/03/2013 at 16:29:19
Hello Phil,

It's cold, but who cares about DMs career he's been earning 4m per year from us, he'll survive trust me!

I'm more interested in the plight of EFC hopefully after he's gone.

James Stewart
523 Posted 10/03/2013 at 16:46:13
There is no way he will walk. Equally there is no way Kenshite would ever sack him. The best we can hope for is he leaves at the end of the season.
Phil Walling
627 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:50:32
Since penning this epistle I have spoken to journo friend who tells me the word is that if Chelsea don`t offer him their job before the end of March,Moyes will sign a one year `roll-on` contract to stay at Everton.
What a fucking good weekend I`m having!
Michael Winstanley
636 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:59:01
I can see the thinking regarding Moyes, he's been saying for a while that he's doing everything he can with the players he has. I can see him wanting to take his style of play to better players to see if they can play his version of total football. I reckon he'd jump to go to Chelsea.
Barry Rathbone
639 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:58:40
Phil I'm fuming reading the Chelsea addendum, firstly at the idea the shifty bastard really has been stringing us along re: his contract (no surprise really) but secondly we'll give him a rolling deal to keep him off the dole if his little scheme falls over.

I'm going to use really bad words if I continue so best not.

Patrick Murphy
646 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:13:36
Kenwright should either ask David Moyes to sign a minimum 3 year contract if he is the person he and the board want to manage Everton FC or tell David Moyes to leave immediately. We cannot have any manager on a one year rolling contract its ridiculous all sense of stability is lost, which apparently is what David Moyes has brought to the club.

How can a manager persuade a player that his future lies at Goodison if he himself is only assured a one-year term.


Patrick Murphy
648 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:18:52
With the way things are panning out, you can't but help to think there is something very serious going on behind the scenes, and with the way the cookie crumbles at Goodison it is bound to be something we all don't want to hear.
Clive Lewis
649 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:15:31
Moyes needs to leave, holding the club to ransom over his contract. I find this a bit arrogant. I am not sure what he is doing and why? Why not just make a decision that you are going to leave or not! What does he think is going to happen between now and the end of the season. Is he waiting for BK to sell up? Is he waiting for another club? It cannot be that he is waiting for 4th place because realistically he surely cannot think we are actually going to do anything in Europe, with the small amount of funds this will generate after the bank takes its cut. The more I think about this the more that I feel he is holding out for the few pennies till the end of his contract with the hope of a bigger team coming in for him. I am not sure on this basis whether we would really want him as manager next year.
Clive Lewis
650 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:20:44
few pennies, just to add a few hundred thousand pounds was what I meant.
Richard Dodd
651 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:16:15
Phil,I`d be very surprised if even Bill would find that sort of arrangement acceptable.Does a `one year rolling contract `mean that Davey could leave when he likes as long as somebody pays Everton a sum equivalent to his annual salary?
Joe McMahon
657 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:26:20
If Lennon goes to premiership (please not us), maybe Celtic, although salary will have to come down by well over 3 million a year. Stoke won't pay Moyes salary either. To be honest I can't see who would want him. Even if Steve Clarke left West Brom, the baggies won't want the Moyes brand of football, just like Spurs didn't.
Robbie Muldoon
661 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:21:04
I'm surprised to see that nobody holds the view that Moyes has already made his decision regarding his Everton future. He's decided this season will be his last unless a crack at the Champions League with Everton via 4th materialised (hence the 'let's see how we do comments). He did mention progress in the cup being a factor, yes because some silverware would increase his stock and make a big move to a Chelsea type club a little more likely. He even surprised us all this season with mention of ambition to manage in Germany, and now rumours are around that he has been in some sort of contact with Schalke. I wonder if anybody knows if Moyes has been paying for German languae tuition!?

It would be impossible for Moyes to show his cards and declare this season to be his last up to now for obvious reasons and those mentioned above. Now I think we are closer to hearing his true intentions, and he will let us know before the end of the season if this is to be his last at Everton.

Robert Collins
662 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:24:57
Phil Whalling @ 627

Hello Phil,

The good news just keeps coming eh?

Don't you just love his attitude: "EFC can't do any better than me! I'll let them have my services for one more year until I'm ready".

It's now apparent to me Moyes is what he is (arrogant, dogmatic and an unshakeable belief in his own messianic qualities). I used to think he was dignified and decent.

It's spineless Billy Boy I think we have to take a good look at, we can't let him get away with it.

Phil Walling
671 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:38:54
Richard: I don`t really know,I guess it means whatever is written into the contract.I imagine that if the club wanted to sack him they would always have to pay him a year`s money.Any employment lawyers out there?
Barry Rathbone
673 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:35:52
Robbie the thing is I reckon most of us feel he made the decision to jib us last year hence the slipperyness re: the contract questions, I've said as much several times. Considering Pep and Fergie told all they'd be on their way I see no reason for Moyes why Moyes couldn't do the same other than he's hedging his bets.

Crap really fans who stuck up for him are being hung out to dry.

Robert Collins
683 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:35:58
Robbie Muldoon @ 661

He may well have decided to go already and it's a good point you make, but the honourable thing to do now after the fans have made their thoughs clear is to go (and now!).

Give the team to someone else (an interim) with some energy and willingness to give the youth a chance until the end of the season.

Schalke are a proper football team in Germany with a huge fanbase, they're hungry for success. If they take a serious look at him and his performances in Europe and not winning away in 42 attempts at big clubs here. I doubt they'd tolerate not ever winning at Bayern or their derby with Dortmund. A nearly man here I think would be a nearly man there.

Harold Matthews
688 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:45:37
On Saturday Kenwright had the look of an executioner reaching for the axe.
Robert Collins
701 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:55:09
Harold Mathews @ 668

It should have happened years ago (4 or 5 of them), but definitely last year. We shouldn't haven a manager at the club who's not 100% commited and biding time until something better comes. C'mon blues let's have some energy, some drive!

Frida Ericsson
738 Posted 10/03/2013 at 20:41:36
holding the club to ransom? so he must leave?.....you are joking right?...he needs to leave because we are sick to the back teeth with him, for the abject continuous displays on the field, the continous excuses about why we fail.

He is the reason we fail all of the time when it matters..i couldn't care less about being held to ransom...try to have some ambition ffs, this is Everton FC, this clown should be run out of town as fast as possible. he is simply not good enough..we are an embarrassment under this tool

Frida Ericsson
740 Posted 10/03/2013 at 20:46:17
Robert Collins - he would be frog marched out of germany almost as fast as he arrived. The germans insist on having a youth policy and bringing them through..moyes hates playing youth players, instead pref leaving them to rot on the bench every week of the season.

His continuous bottling at big games. he wouldn't last 5 bloody minutes in the german league.

Frida Ericsson
741 Posted 10/03/2013 at 20:48:53

Joe McMahon - I don't' give a rat's behind about what happens to Moyes, all I know is that we need him out and now. I am more concerned about Everton FC and so should everyone else who supports this club.
Clive Lewis
742 Posted 10/03/2013 at 20:33:33
Its not just arrogance, He actually seems like a fantasist whom actually has believed the deluded view some of the press, that he is actually a top manager.

Top managers are measured with success. Moyes the 3rd highest paid manager in the prem and no trophies. It seems that if this was a striker whom was paid so much but did not deliver they would have been shipped out a long time ago.
The reality is some players give 100% for Moyes and some start to give 100% then they may lose focus due to his probable management techniques. I am not sure Moyes can motivate a full team of players with different styles and personalities.
I think he has some of Alec Ferguson in him but sadly lacking in the knowledge and technique of fair man management. I have always thought Moyes has his favourites, Phill Neville being one of them. Some of the younger players don't figure in Moyes plans. The guy seems too carefull with his approach and will not take a chance with the new. Why buy Oviedo ? what was the purpose of buying a player and then not playing him?. I think we should take a chance and try something else, it might get worse before it gets better but the reality is I am not sure if we did find a buyer that Moyes would make Everton a success.

Robbie Muldoon
766 Posted 10/03/2013 at 21:54:31
It's completely hypothetical to say this, but just maybe Moyes has fertilised the ground ahead of the next manager. The seeds of ambition have definitely been sown in some corners of the club (Finch Farm, realisation that we can challenge the elite, progress in cups, nurture pure talent) and if a new man in charge has the right conditions in place and a more positive approach to football, we could really kick on... fuck me where did that optimism come from!? The thought of Moyes going felt like a weight being lifter from around my neck! :)
Patrick Murphy
769 Posted 10/03/2013 at 22:17:59
Robbie well he's certainly put some manure on the pitch at times not to mention Ex-Manure as well.
Thomas Windsor
904 Posted 11/03/2013 at 10:48:43
11 years in charge and he plays Neville in midfield as captain. And gets paid £4 million a year! What a fucking job he's got .

He should have been sacked last season after the semi-final shambles.

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