What a pile of bollocks the club spin to us these days - I've always been one of those who chose to back the club, back the manager and back the players through good & bad times, but for the first time in my life I'm not doing that anymore. They're all taking us for a ride, and I'm sick of it. All of it.

Fer would have given us such a lift as an athletic midfield presence, the one thing we lack more than anything else. So many opportunities missed this season, and so many over the years of Moyes reign.

We need changes, simple as that.

My dissatisfaction with DM in a football sense is well documented, but I honestly believe he is a genuine person and an honest man, so would it be too far a stretch to believe that certain people at Goodison don't have the interests of the club at heart, and they undermine not only the supporters but anyone who tries to show up their many inadequacies.

Whether DM stays or goes will not address the real problem and that is the people who are running or maybe ruining the club.

If true, I'm not surprised we wanted to restructure the deal......... but no, let's waste money on a plane ticket, a medical etc so we can fools the fans!!! Do you think that charlatan on the board gives two fucks about what we think? It wasn't time for season ticket renewals then in January....however the joke bid (if it actually happened) for Negredo was a piss take of the highest calibre.

I always thought Moyes was a thoroughly decent bloke as well, and deep-down I know he's not bullshitted us over the years, but lately it just feels like he's trotting out the same old lines about, "this team turning a corner" or "we'll push on from here".

Well apparently no we won't 'push on from here'. He's been saying that since December.

We've missed the boat so many times in the last 20 years it's untrue.

This was not the deal originally agreed with Twente. (See Quotes)

They never had the funds, bad knee or not.

Or is David Prentice (a supporter of BK) making it up?

Lazy journalism at best.

Don't believe the hype.

We now find ourselves slipping down the league because Moyes is too predictable and continues to use Neville and Osman in midfield. Goodness me Barkley Gibson and Hitz must be really shit in Moyes eyes.

I hear Sky Sports reporting that Everton are still interested in Twente's Fer. Another ploy from Everton if true to avert the miserable weekend we have just experienced in order to try and generate some interest and motivation for the fans. Sorry Mr Chairman and Board it don't wash anymore; enough is enough. Mr Moyes we will push on into freefall down the league top ten at best Naff all again season after season.

I was speaking more generally regarding Prentice :-)

You're spot-on in your assessment of the team too - I've had exactly the same conversation of late, and even my American girlfriend who knows next to nothing about football has watched us lately and said to me, "why don't they try as hard as the opposition?" I think that says it all.

We don't have a big squad, which is all the more reason to rotate they players we do have. Barkley, Vellios, Duffy, Oviedo, all young men but only ever given 5 or 10 minutes in games. No wonder the Osmans of this World look so worn out.

Even Hitzelsperger deserves a few starts - make some changes, make things happen - all Moyes has done all seasons is play the same 11 or 12 players which has made us stagnate. We can all see it, why can't he?!

The man makes his living (very successfully) by providing overpriced and underfunded 'entertainment' to idiots who are happy to have the reality of their own shite lives suspended for an hour or two.....(anyone squirming in their seat now, coz I am!)

He's a showman, a bluffer, and a charlatan. If he'd been born in the 1860s he'd have a top hat on pushing an ornate handcart full of potions... Dr Youth Elixir.

The tragedy and problem for us is how to end it. The Blue Union, while nobly enthusiastic, catastrophically underestimated their enemy. There's some bright lads on here, and a coordinated strategy is required. After Saturday we should be able to smell BK's endgame... but we've been here before!

Having a voice and using it online is one thing, but are we truly representative of the blue faithful at large? The reaction of supporters at home games tells me we're not.

Hopefully Mr Northcott is the man.

Phil (004). Great summation of our chairman.

Most transfer deals these days are structured over time – unless you're Manchester City, you're not paying for anyone in one lump sum.

EFC were clearly intending to pay for Fer over the lifetime of his contract but offered a smaller up-front fee and based the rest on appearances after the concerns over his knee cropped up in the medical.

As I said at the time, just because the regime has screwed up in the past doesn't mean that everything they do is suspect, devious or incompetent.

That said, the fact that it was left to the end of the window and that there was NO backup plan was, frankly, unbelievable. It was very revealing that Moyes was saying there was almost no chance of signing anyone in the final 24 hours while Elstone was suggesting they had options they'd be chasing down to the wire.

I agree with your article, but even if we had have bought Fer to "catapult" us into the CL, we would have had to have bought another 4 or 5 quality players to stand any chance whatsoever of getting into and out of the group phase (and that is not even taking into consideration DMs terrible team choices, tactics or subs).

It was probably for the best for us it didn't happen, give the money to the new manager!

Moysey going wont solve this because the new man will get about a third of the sale of Fellaini to move us on, don't forget over half the team are in their thirties and need to find the exit shortly. It's a huge task ahead and needs more than a new manager.

Incidentally Fellaini's value is in free fall after that game so that wont be the cash cow we think...

If there was no sign of an injury, how would they have tried to explain that one?

Who would even dream of trying to do business like this?

Agreeing a fee and then changing the terms once you have the player in your grasp is not the way these deals should be done. You have to thrash out the deal/fee first, not change it halfway through even if you do intend to pay £8.5m. You don't queue up at Sainsburys with a load of food, wait till it's all bagged up then offer to pay in instalments.

It made us look like amateurs.

Maybe, but hardly surprising given what we (humans) have become in the last 50 years.

I mean...LOOK at us!

We're basically going backwards

The newspaper buying public in this country, EVERY day, give a big thumbs down to the idea of even getting close to 'the truth' or reality.

Until relatively recently, many more people on Sundays would read the NOTW than the Observer.

Many more people now (even AFTER what we know about Murdoch) read the Sun than the Guardian.

Sorry but generally, we're fucking idiots.

Millions more will watch 'Strictly Whateverthefuck' than will watch Question Time.

In fact if you use the word 'celeb', you're quids in.

"Morning Sir - Pic of Jordan's plazzy jugs or an article the broken economy?"

- CLICK -

"There you go sir, a wise choice, politics is SO boring"

We human beings have made our choice - We want mindless trivial nonsense and plenty of it and we are MORE than happy to be kept in the dark and treated like idiots'.

Aren't we?

I only own a TV to watch sport and films - I don't want anything else, at all.

I don't buy a newspaper, nor do I listen to the radio beyond Radio 4/5/6.

You're sadly describing the masses, who have always been generally a bit dim.

The media and Government love to 'keep em thick' as it makes people much easier to control. You only have to look up the word 'Government' to see it's true meaning...

Everton plainly didn't and with the prevailing wisdom being that we had about 3m left over from last summer, I would guess that was about how much we had originally said we'd pay Twente up front.

That changed after the medical and I simply can't make the leap to believe that the Board concocted the whole thing -- including getting the player over for a medical -- simply so they could deceive the fans into thinking we had money to spend.

I can see how Twente felt they were being dicked around but I can also understand -- indeed welcome -- Everton's prudence if they weren't happy with the guy's knee LONG TERM.

As above, it was the last-minute, no plan B issue that irks me.

As you say, Lyndon, we dicked them around and they told us to whistle. Simple. I don't think the whole thing was a ploy to look good in the eyes of fans, because even our short-sighted board would have realised that screwing up a transfer is worse than having no transfer at all!

If this sort of cash was available, it would have been made available at the beginning of January - not on the 30th.

And why bring in Stones. ? We needed someone who can play NOW, and in the right position, someone to help us get into Europe, not someone for the future.

For the benefit of Mr Bright
There will be a show tonight on The The Big screen
The Dads and Sons, we'll all be there
Tired of all the previous fayre, what a scene

All the men he forces Dupes and barters vastly grew a huge debt we say liar!
In this way Mr. K. will challenge the world!

The celebrated Mr. K.
Takes his seat on Saturday let's
call it fate

The Dads and Sons we'll dance and sing
As Mr Bright gives Big Sam a ring don't be late

Messrs. K. and A. assure the public
Their production will be second to none
And of course Henry The Boss dances the waltz-!

(Circus organ music) The fun begins at ten to six
When Mr. K. performs his tricks without a sound
And Mr. A. will demonstrate
10 sure bets he'll undertake on hallowed ground
Having been some days in preparation
A splendid time is guaranteed for all
And tonight with no fight no Stopping the Bill.
(Circus organ music.)

That was one weird dream about a press-conference sometime in the future.

The medical threw up concerns over the repair job on his meniscus, though, something we couldn't have known beforehand, so we sought to renegotiate and Twente told us where to go, which is fair enough.

I've criticised the club for lots of things under Kenwright and it's easy to see a conspiracy or incompetence in everything they do but I just believe them on this one and don't feel like this was a ruse to get the fee down. I could be wrong, of course, but that's just my personal sense of it.

Power Nap? I'm impressed. Are you darn Sarf or somewhere .. it's Power Dribbling in my house.

The board must of tried everything to make the deal impossible and they were relieved as fuck when the medical failed. Why leave it till the last minute anyway if we had £8.5M? Why no other Targets?.Bill offered Twente chairman front row seats in his next bloody play as down payment.

Still well pissed off; anyone fancy coming to Wales to watch England, might be more entertaining watching egg chasers than seeing Steptoe pass to AGUERRRRRO and us get smashed by Man City.

What a greedy bunch of mercenary bastards they are.

The player himself said he passed the medical no problem and the was no problem with his miniscus.

The problem EFC's medical team reported was that the cut to get at the knee still hadnt fully healed as you would expect after only having surgery a few months previously.

Kenwright has created a culture of cheating and deceipt which is dividing the support please don't compound it with unfounded rumour.

*asking price is around 125 million
*there is an interested middle eastern party at the minute

Oh we can only wish. It would of course mean that new owners can pick their own manager. Who in their right mind would want things to stay the same?

I can only hope some dopey rich git decides to buy us and make us the latest plaything to attempt to reach CL status. No worrys having a dream. Mine has changed regularly (under Moyes) due to lack of consistancy on the pitch and a tendancy to bottle it every time they see some form of trophy appearing on the horizon. Like the saying, "the king is dead, long live the king", I hope that the reign of Moyes is over and with it a new owner will appear, as our knight in shinning armour. We can but dream, well, for us Toffees that is all we can do these days.

Hardly any of us had ever heard of Leroy Fer before his name came up in lights because of it being associated with EFC.

Juat as a certain unknown and quite ordinary manager at Preston was plucked from obscurity and put in the national spotlight because of our famous old club.

It's time some people hereabouts were reclaiming the name.

Moyes is where he is because of Everton Football Club.

It is not the other way round.

As Evertonians we soak all this shit up... ring-fenced, 24-7, Rooney not for sale, deal of the century, Everton Place. Unbelievable.

Now the bullshit has spilled over the gates and into the transfer market at large. No club with any respect for themselves will come near Everton with a prospective sale after that farce. Let's do it the Everton Way and stand by for another decade while BK and Co sink the club.

Knowing that we would all crack the shits if Fellaini went with no one coming in the board "hedged" their bets, unfortunately for us the bid from Chelsea never happened and the rest is history.

The ex player by the way was Duncan McKenzie who I spoke to at Cheers bar in Sydney, the tickets were 39 dollars and worth every penny.

The criticism of Kenwright is not relevant to the defeat by Wigan and allows Moyes to get away with it again.