Why oh why does he always sacrifice Mirallas?

And that just leaves Nasimith for Pienaar as he can play on both sides of the park.

Yesterday was fantastic. The attitude of the players was spot on, but DM continued his bizarre record if substitutions by taking off one of the best attacking players I have seen in an Everton shirt for one of the worst. Mirallas was creating merry mayhem for most of the afternoon. He wasn't injured and he was tired....so why ?

Stoke are on an awful run so we need to have men on the pitch who can play football and not try to go head to head on Stokes terms as we did as we did at their place. Bit of guile and plenty of free kicks when they clog us around the penalty area will see us win. Neville and Naismith are Moyes' proverbial knives and we showed yesterday we can handle the fight with guns that have great attitude and play great football.

Considering his injury problems, can you really complain about Moyes attempting to rest one of his better players wherever possible?

I would go with Oviedo and Barkley for Pienaar and Fellaini. Be absolutely amazed if it happened though!

I suppose it depends on how you think is the best way to defend. It's obvious Moyes believes its about getting men behind the ball, closing people down. I personally think theres always a case to be made to have a player like Mirallas on the pitch, someone who will be an outlet and is capable of carrying the ball into their half, taking pressure off our defence and theres also a better chance of scoring another.

I also think too much is made of Naismith's defending. Just because someone willingly gets back doesn't mean their good at defending. He did make one tackle that led to our goal but there were times when the City players just walked past him, he is painfully slow.

I also thought Mirallas was defending well. The penalty incident where Fellaini handled the ball came about because Tevez shrugged of Naismith really easily and was able to get a shot in. If Mirallas had been on I don't think he would have done that. Even the BBC Match of the Day commentator commented on how badly Naismith defended in that incident.

I think their not worrying about Coleman on their left was one of their problems all game.

When it comes to a different approach, one that takes the game to the oppostion Moyes is found out as just a overpaid PE teacher. The players have the ability, most play for their country, it's the manager who has the greatest impact on this Everton side. Fuck knows what happens in training, but I bet a better manager could take this Everton side up a level. I dread Moyes getting a new contract. 16 years without a trophy, 16 years without a win at Anfield, 16 years without a win at Old Trafford, Arsenal and Chelsea. No thanks. Move along. Kenwright is a c**t as well.

David Moyes didn't intentionally under-motivate his players for the Wigan game, and the depth of feeling from the players demonstrated their disgust at their own performance last week.

How a manager can be held solely accountable for three minutes of madness is beyond me. Shit, that no one can legislate for, happens, and as with praise, any blame ought to be distributed evenly.

Why does it have to be so black and white for some people? The players were atrocious last week, not just the manager!

The Wigan performance was devastating for all of us but I really can't believe that calling for Moyes's head is the answer. He's built a team that plays, most of the time, high tempo, attacking, passing football. Just look at our full-backs who spend the majority of matches bombing on in the opposition half, beating men and whipping in crosses.

Perhaps you're too young to remember the dark days under Walter Smith and others but the standard of football we play now is immeasurably superior to the dross I've seen served up at Goodison prior to Moyes's reign. I really hope he sticks with it but, if he leaves, he deserves to do so on his own terms with his head held high.

I said "solely accountable."

How about the players take their share the responsibility too?

In yesterdays 'big game,' they certainly did. No capitulation there.

If the same attitude had been shown in these games we may have another 5-10 points in the bag and still be planning a trip to Wembley. Don't forget that yesterday's team was understrength if you consider Howard and Jags were unavailable and Jelavic was out of form and on the bench. Unfortunately due to Felli's and Pienaar's suspensions we will be unable to judge the team too harshly for upcoming games against Stoke and Spurs, if they fall short of yesterday's performance. Hopefully they will retain that spirit and endeavor and manage to get something out of those games which will keep us hoping for the impossible dream.

As Davey said after the game, we have been good all season and the Wigan performance was a blip. The reality is if Jelavic had maintained last season's form we'd now be in the top three and to blame his demise on a change of tactics is utter rubbish.

Perhaps now he's found where the net is we can make it a run-in to remember!

We seem to have developed a formula for beating top sides at home. If Lampard hadn't been having his usual wonder game against us then our record over the last two seasons would look very good indeed. You could even bundle the Drenthe disallowed goal in and penalty not given against Arteta to allow for the Arsenal games.

The real test as ever will come on the road. There is absolutely no reason why we should go to White Hart Lane or the Emirates with any fear. Stamford Birdge will be difficult whilst it will be Liverpool's cup final playing us so they'll be doing what we used to do to them back in the 90s when we were dire against everyone else apart from them.

"It has been a long time since Everton has defeated the top 3 in the league at Goodison."

Hopelessly wrong: In the last 14 months, we've done Man.City & Tottenham twice, and defeated Chelsea & Man.Utd.

Prior to yesterday's game, we were already 8 points better off than we were at the same stage last season, so the "attitude," you speak of HAS been in evidence this season.

So if you think this one, out-of-character good performance against City, is to the credit of Moyes, do you accept that the majority of performances that have been poor are due to him also?

NB. I'll agree with you if we play like this EVERY game for the rest of the season, regardless of the result.

Be tempted to bring in Duffy, can we trust Heitinga against those grocks smashing high balls in?

And McAleny has to get a spot on the bench surely.

I didn't infer we defeated Man Utd last season... We beat them THIS season.

Oh, and we beat Man City in January (last season).

Utd lost at Norwich too.

City at Southampton.

Spurs at Leeds and home to Wigan!

Its final position that counts, and the higher up you are the less of these results happen. Only Utd and City have lost less than us and we've only drawn three or four more than the teams around us.

Most old men masquerading as 12 year olds online get sent away.

Oh sorry, that sounded quite sensible, I do opologise.