Season 2012-13
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Picking over the bones
Following QPR's almost inevitable fall into the championship I wondered if there were any players that we Blues might pick up from the relegated teams or Championship sides that don't make promotion if we have any sort of kitty at the end of the season.
I don't think there is any doubt that we need reinforcements in the GK, MF and goalscoring departments so here's my shortlist from the "assumed" dead.
GK - Begovic from Stoke or McCarthy from Reading (Julio Cesar bit too old and assumed expensive).
MF - Nzonzi or Palacios from Stoke,Will Hughes from Derby, Jedinak from Crystal Palace. would love Taraabt but he may be too expensive.
Up front - Remy (worth it), Cormack from Leeds, wished we'd have got Zaha from Palace (maybe United will loan him to us next season).
Any other snippets that fellow blues might advocate?
Jay Harris, Posted 15/04/2013 at 21:26:23
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244 Posted 16/04/2013 at 21:57:03
342 Posted 17/04/2013 at 02:09:00
352 Posted 17/04/2013 at 06:05:56
I think N'Zonzi, Begovic, Benteke, Kone, and Maloney would all be worth a punt at the right price. We have to remember though that these teams are being relegated because their players aren't good enough for the Premier League. Some players are exceptions but most (like Taraabt) are sub par footballers who look less sub par because the players around them are even worse.
I think we can get better value for players from overseas like Mirallas, Fellaini, Cahill, Pienaar, etc.
374 Posted 17/04/2013 at 09:14:53
As an alternative Kone could be picked up for relatively small fee and wages.
The goalkeeper from Reading will end up at a top team,with Tim being 34 get in there now.
395 Posted 17/04/2013 at 11:01:39
I always liked Hope Akpan, now at Reading, both as a youngster here, then I saw and heard good things about him at Crawley. He looks like a good, pacey box to box midfielder, which we really lack, as much as I like Gibbo, Osman and Fellaini.
I was impressed with N'zonzi when Stoke came here, but that is about it from their side. Nobody will miss Stoke if they go down, and a few of their players might end up at promoted Premier League sides, but not much higher than that.
I hope Villa don't go down as their young side are doing the best they can, plus anybody from them that is good enough for us would be out of our price range.
Norwich? Nobody springs to mind.
Newcastle would be interesting, but I doubt they will go down, and their decent players would still command big fee's, like Cabaye, Sissoko, Cisse etc.
396 Posted 17/04/2013 at 11:10:02
459 Posted 17/04/2013 at 13:56:24
Begovic is great but will cost far too much so maybe McCarthy from Reading is a better option for that role. Shawcross or Huth are decent at Stoke and Villa have a few - Weimann, Lowton, Albrighton and maybe even Bent! Plenty to choose from really.
My personal choices would be McCarthy (Wigan) Shawcross and Vydra which would hopefully leave us with some spare cash for a couple more quality signings from leagues abroad (better value for money) depending on whether we sell Fellaini and/or we get a good sum from the TV folk.
476 Posted 17/04/2013 at 15:58:54
As for Vydra, he is on loan from Italy (Udinese I believe) so will return there at the end of the season
479 Posted 17/04/2013 at 16:19:36
I thought we already had them. ;)
482 Posted 17/04/2013 at 16:20:03
I think the player who would fit into our side of those definitely getting relegated is Jimmy Kebe at Reading. Seen him in the flesh on four occasions against us and he has been their best player on every occasion.
Still some good players worth a chance from the Championship. Liam Birdcutt at Brighton is a quality holding midfielder, who looks to have the character to make a top flight player.
I saw at bit of Tom Lees of Leeds when he was on loan at Bury. A future PL player who reminded me of Jags.
Will Hughes at Derby is obviously a precocious talent but I suspect if we had c.£10m to spend we won't spend it on a 17-year-old.
578 Posted 18/04/2013 at 00:16:18
603 Posted 18/04/2013 at 08:24:35
The likes of remy and benteke will cost £8m minimum but a striker and possibly a fellaini replacement seem the most needed. Kone could be a good shout but would prefer someone younger. Mcarthy from Reading is a very talented looking young keeper who might not cost the world but not sure Moyes would drop Howard yet. Perhaps Di Santo might suit our style of play.
618 Posted 18/04/2013 at 10:07:46
619 Posted 18/04/2013 at 10:22:43
620 Posted 18/04/2013 at 10:20:54
The reason why they may not sell is that they can't get other clubs to pay the wages so the players won't leave or do leave and the relegated club still has to pay part of the wages (without having the player).
QPR are in deep shtuck on this one as they are paying crazy wages for players that have simply not performed. We may be interested in say Hoillett, but were unable to meet the wage offered by QPR first time round and his market value has probably dropped since, so we will now be prepared to offer even less.
With the financial fair play rules coming in they are going to struggle to comply with them even if their owners are prepared to put up with the massive losses they are about to incur next season. They could well be a great case study on careful what you wish for.
624 Posted 18/04/2013 at 10:34:12
Hoilett on the right would allow us to stick super Kev up front, and have Vic, Jela and Vellios fighting for his place. He would be a potent attacking force no doubt.
629 Posted 18/04/2013 at 11:47:23
Remy - Fantastic player, who would improve us.
Kone - Bit hit and miss with his finishing but would improve us. Especially if we could pick up for relatively cheap.
Mids: McCarthy and Gomez are very good...and Beausejour would give us pace on the left..and a brilliant crosser. Hoilett would also be very interesting. Nzog and Taarabt would both be expensive...and have proved to be too sporadic and uninterested this season.
And defenders...Lowton for Villa has been doing fantastically well...maybe a Hibbert replacement? him and Coleman would be two very good attacking options.
Obviously Huth and Shawcross are superb cbs...and we will prob need a Heitinga replacement. I would take Shawcross obviously.
And Cesar and Begovic are both great goalkeepers.
If I could pick two realistic targets to take...it would be Remy and Shawcross (Kone and Huth backups).
I would then like to see us add another pacey winger to challenge Pienaar.. (Hoilett perhaps, or even Maloney).
631 Posted 18/04/2013 at 12:07:37
636 Posted 18/04/2013 at 12:15:08
In terms of Stoke, you would have to wonder how they would look at other clubs. They play a very rigid style and you wonder how much the players are constrained by this.
I can't see Villa being under serious pressure to have to sell any players if they get relegated. The wage bill would not be that high and the younger players may still be happy to get a full season's football under their belts, albeit in the Championship. I would be curious about Stephen Ireland as he looks to have fallen out of favour there in a big way. The thing about it is though, is he bright enough to know he is running out of chances or would he just end up being a waste of cash.
Does anybody know how those french players Newcastle signed in January are doing. Newcastle seem to have bombed since but I haven't read any match reports or seen them play to know what is going on. The reason I ask is that there was much made in January of the fact that Newcastle had seemed to pick up very decent players from abroad for little or nothing.
775 Posted 18/04/2013 at 22:26:12
Ireland and Taarabt are both a no. They have talent but both seem to think that talent is the end of the story, whereas it needs to be the beginning. Moyes has helped us avoid this type of player, with the exception of Drenthe who was free anyway and we were pretty desperate. N'Zogbia is another in this category who I would avoid.
871 Posted 19/04/2013 at 12:46:10
The two James's at Wigan are decent.
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239 Posted 16/04/2013 at 21:50:42
Townsend
Remy
Taarabt
Stoke
Begovic
Aston Villa?
Benteke
N'Zogbia
Wigan
McCarthy
Kone
Crystal Palace
Bolasie
Glenn Murray
Watford
Vydra