PFA Shortlist

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The player of the year shortlist is in and whaddaya know - Spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea, and Utd are all represented.

Michael Carrick, Gareth Bale, Robin van Persie, Luis Suarez, Eden Hazard and Juan Mata.

Hazard is a great player, but I would argue Lukaku has done better, and done better surrounded by West Brom players. Same for Michu at Swansea.

Obviously diving like a u-boat commander is of no concern to those who make up the list but admittedly Suarez and Bale have been excellent.

But the list smacks of laziness, spoils for the big teams, and a media friendly list at that.

Our contenders would be Baines (most creative player in Europe don't you know...) and Fellaini who despite his more quiet performances in recent fixtures surely trounces Carrick and Juan Mata, neither of whom had to carry Phil Neville all season.

If every player has a vote but can't vote for a team mate, and required to keep to the short list, is abstention allowed?

Also, if there were a veterans' award Distin has been a beast all season. But the bottom 14 don't count, right?

Nick Entwistle, London     Posted 19/04/2013 at 16:49:20

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Gary Carter
509 Posted 23/01/2010 at 15:24:20
As it's now been confirmed on the official site that we are signing Senderos on loan, I have to ask... why?

It seems to have completely passed David Moyes by that he is utter, utter garbage; he's so bad that he makes Titus Bramble look like Franz Beckenbauer. We already have Distin, Yobo, Jagielka, Heitinga and at a push you can play Pip or Rodwell there... and Senderos wants to leave the Arse to get first team football as it's World Cup year, which surely he won't get.

I just can't really see who this benefits other than Arsenal as they get him off their wage bill!!

James Stewart
935 Posted 19/04/2013 at 18:06:17
First post had me worried then surely not senderos again! Then I saw the date thank god.

Predictable list as always. Bale deserves to win it. I don't rate Hazard and for the price he cost I would say he has had a pretty underwhelming season. Who would you rather have Hazard or Mirallas? Hazard was piss poor for them in the cup against city and constantly ran into blind alleys and gave the ball away.

Baines should have been on the list.

Mike Green
936 Posted 19/04/2013 at 18:12:33
Michael Carrick....?! Have I missed something....?
Jay Harris
938 Posted 19/04/2013 at 18:19:08
Just shows how dumb the players are although I couldnt argue with Bale but Suarez should be ashamed to be on the shortlist.

I am just wondering if all the big squads voted for their own players would that make a significant difference?

Ross Edwards
944 Posted 19/04/2013 at 18:52:42
Once again the bias towards the big clubs is evident. Carrick? I would have thought of many more that have done better than him, why no Michu, or Bainesy? Bale, agree with him, Hazard, Mata, fine but Suarez should be NOWHERE NEAR that list. A cheat, racist and a diver should not be on the PFA's shortlist. After all, isn't Clarke Carlisle, its chairman, leading the campaign against racism? That shows hypocrisy and bias towards the big 4 clubs.
My list would have been:
Bale
Baines
Michu
Van Persie
Lambert
Hazard (just beats Mata)
Why is Welbeck on the young players' list btw? Considering he has only scored 1 in 25 PL games. It's just bias towards the big 4 as usual.
Ross Edwards
946 Posted 19/04/2013 at 19:03:36
Forgot to add, my three noninations for Manager of the year are:
Steve Clarke
Sir Alex
David Moyes.
All three are deserving winners.
Dave Lynch
953 Posted 19/04/2013 at 19:31:47
The usual paranoia hits ToffeeWeb.

Who the fuck cares if we are overlooked on purpose or not ?

It is a meaningless award made by meaningless people who, could not give a thrupenny fuck about you, me and the world in general.

Get over it. IT DOESN'T MATTER !

Eugene Ruane
958 Posted 19/04/2013 at 19:45:19
Dave Lynch (953) - Could not agree more.

All that matters to me is what Everton do on the park.

The rest of it is, imo, just so much piffle and wank.

Happy for our players to not be contaminated by any of it.

Andy Crooks
961 Posted 19/04/2013 at 20:01:10
Cheating is no bar to being player of the year,then. The award is meaningless.
Tom Bowers
962 Posted 19/04/2013 at 19:50:15
These awards, much like the Oscars, mean nothing to me but are just media fodder. Everyone has an opinion but most of us real fans don't get a vote.

As we know, the big clubs always have players mentioned and for some reason strikers are in the vast majority of nominations. To me the ability to be a great defender is just as good as the ability to score goals. Without doubt Bale has scored some spectacular goals which get replayed over and over but a great defender and his many great tackles get very little coverage. I therefore find that the media and the ''fellow'' professionals who do the voting are quite shallow for the most part in their voting.

Consistent performances from players like Jagielka, Baines and other similar defenders with other clubs are always overlooked, sad to say. Hopefully the voters will take into account all the other bullshit Ratboy has served up this season besides his goals.

Ian Bennett
974 Posted 19/04/2013 at 20:33:52
Carrick or Michu? Hmmm. What did Hazard to justify his inclusion over Berbatov, Dembele or Benteke. Footballers know fuck all.

Why they vote in January in this day and age is a joke. What do they use, bottles?

Kieran Fitzgerald
978 Posted 19/04/2013 at 20:55:34
It's easy to look good at a quality team. The players that carry a lower to mid range club never get a mention.

Messi could sign for a premier league club, play one game in August, get an injury that ends his season and he would still get on the list. Sometimes it just to do with a player having a big reputation.

Dennis Stevens
982 Posted 19/04/2013 at 21:12:14
No Osman ?!
Ian Bennett
984 Posted 19/04/2013 at 21:23:33
No Coleman? He's been terrific lately. I know I took the piss earlier in the season, but I am really pleased he's nailing down that right back berth.
Mark Frere
989 Posted 19/04/2013 at 21:43:30
Michu's absence is the biggest shock. This lads been a absolute sensation for Swansea and deserves more credit then anyone on that list
Gary Mortimer
008 Posted 19/04/2013 at 23:20:36
Dave 953.

Totally disagree.

The fact that players from the "usual suspects" always get short listed mean that our players who may be undecided about signing contract extensions may think that they will get more recognition elsewhere. Let's face it - are they going to win medals here?

The media still think that Liverpool are a big club and that we are a small plucky club punching above our weight. The fact that we are 6 points ahead of them in the league at this stage of the season is ignored as it doesn't suit their profile. Only a few chaps on the radio have mentioned that Baines has created more chances than anyone else in the top 4 leagues in Europe and should be in the list.

Wilshere has only played 20 times in the League for Arsenal without scoring a single goal - young player of the year? Absolute nonsense!

Mike Allison
011 Posted 19/04/2013 at 23:48:08
Michael Carrick has been the central midfield heart beat of the team that's about to win the league? How is it bias that he's nominated for PFA player of the year? It's voted for by professional players by the way, so I don't see much scope for conspiracy.

The one that puzzles me is Hazard. I remember him from August and September but haven't noticed him since, and Chelsea have done very little.

James Flynn
023 Posted 20/04/2013 at 01:18:56
Don't know what PFA is. But if it's for the best player? No Baines?
Paul Ferry
030 Posted 20/04/2013 at 04:21:11
James Flynn. No Baines? Silly question, Leighton has been below par this side of Xmas, have you been watching?
Mike Green
049 Posted 20/04/2013 at 08:45:52
Andy #961 and Mike #011

I you put your two good points together we can probably draw he following conclusion:

The PFA Player of the Year is nominated by the players. Being a cheat is no bar to being nominated. Therefore.... cheating is a widely accepted part of the game by the players.....?

It'd be interesting to see the profile of the Suarez votes - whether it consisted more of fellow strikers or midfielders as opposed to defenders who may have been on the wrong end of his antics.

Maybe there's plenty of defenders who can look past it and voted him in because they know what a nuisance he is and - let's face it - on ability deserves to be on that list.

Are fans simply more bothered about the unseemly side of the game than the players? I don't know, if you took biased voters out (us, Man Utd, Liverpool etc) and left it to the rest I would bet Suarez would still make it in, such is the world we live in nowadays.

Nick Entwistle
063 Posted 20/04/2013 at 09:51:16
I suppose there's still the footballer of the year award. Is that right? One awarded by the FA?
John Gee
096 Posted 20/04/2013 at 11:34:24
Bale: brilliant left foot, Carlton Palmer's right foot.
Suarez: The diesel version of Tevez.
Van Persie: once again SAF sacrifices Rooney's game for someone else's.
Hazard: Chelsea's Tarrabt.
Mata: Fair enough, good player.
Carrick: Utd's Gibson, fair enough.
Wilshere: A whining little bitch being carried by Arteta.
Wellbeck: Run Forest, RUN.


This is just another example of maintaining the narrative of the big clubs and the also runs. How have the likes of Baines, Zabaletta, Kompany, Yaya Toure, Lukaku, Michu, Routledge, Rodriquez, Lambert, Mirallas, Coleman, Cabaye not made this list?

Steavey Buckley
105 Posted 20/04/2013 at 12:34:08
Love him or hate him, Suarez is the main reason why Liverpool are not in relegation trouble this season instead of being in 7th in the league. He is the only player who scores substantial amount of goals for Liverpool. And is my candidate for PFA player of the season.

Second is Bale. Without him and his 22 goals in all competitions, Spurs are just a mid-league team.

Third, Baines. He is the most productive player throughout Europe in providing chances. But what Everton really needed this season is a Suarez who could have scored 22 Premier League goals so far that would have secured a Champions League place for next season.

Jim Potter
934 Posted 22/04/2013 at 08:48:47
Baines
Baines
Baines
Baines and, er ...
Baines.
Jim Potter
937 Posted 22/04/2013 at 08:57:43
Steavey #105 - Suarez?! Outstanding contribution to cannibalism / diving / racism?

Not a good example for yougsters perhaps?

Tony J Williams
939 Posted 22/04/2013 at 09:08:41
He is a scumbag but he has just become their first 30 goal a season striker for a while. The bit that sticks in the craw is that he doesn't need to be such a diving racist biting scumbag because he is so good.

Methinks the votes may be recounted and Bale will be given it. They couldn't allow Sewerat to be their poster boy.

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