Promote from within ?

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Like many fellow Evertonians, I am currently feeling hurt and slightly betrayed that our great club has been used like a pawn in Manchester United's and David Moyes’s master strategy and I am alone in believing the only people who won’t inflict similar pain or use our club is one of us — an Evertonian.

Step forward, Alan Stubbs! Ably assisted by Duncan Ferguson and Davie Weir. I understand that Stubbs has no previous experience and may not even possess the requisite qualifications but he will be committed and for him, like us, there is no bigger job in football. I believe that, with our squad being so well drilled and experienced, the transition could become seamless and who knows how the journey would end.

However, if we do look to the outside, I feel it is important that the new manager maintains our current setup and is only allowed to bring with him a first team coach so Stubbs, Ferguson, Weir et al are continued to develop for the good of the club. Ideally we could do without the scenario where a new manager appoints his own backroom staff like Mark Hughes and Sam Allardyce do.
Darren Thompson, London     Posted 10/05/2013 at 10:05:34

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Jim Williams
583 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:18:59
Following the arrival of David Moyes as the new team coach, the Board of Directors of Manchester United plc announced the complete takeover of Everton Football Club Limited.

In the advisory letter to its shareholders it was disclosed that although the appointment of Mr Moyes had not involved a transfer fee there were additional costs that would have had to be met to purchase the contracts of Baines, Fellaini, Jagielka and Barkley which together would equate to the takeover figure quoted by the directors of Everton FC.

The merger now enables Manchester United plc to sell Goodison Park to Liverpool FC and the Finch Farm training ground for housing development. These actions together with the sale of players’ contracts will enable the company to acquire the assets at no net cost.

Bill Kenwright has been appointed as Deputy Chairman of Manchester United Supporters Club (Liverpool Branch), and has been quoted breathlessly as saying that under his stewardship of Everton Football Club, now merged with Manchester United, was a great success and has resulted in the great name of Everton Football Club now being associated with a record 20 League Championships…

It is understood that Everton’s place in the Premier League will be taken by the team finishing 18th and the vacancy in the Football League structure will be offered to Southport.

Nelly Verdonghan
593 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:23:18
You have got to be kidding !!!!

Why not give the job to ME, Our Kid & My Cousin....I played for Everton for 6 years in my youth and my brother & cousin love Everton to bits...We are ALL life long Evertonians who have followed the club all over thye world so we will be fully committed and to us there is no bigger job in football....

For God's sake this madness has to end before it even gets started !!!

Brian Williams
597 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:29:49
You should have started your own daft thread for that Jim, instead of trying of to highjack Darren's.
Alan McGuffog
602 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:32:50
Damn right. No bigger blue than Boy's Pen Billy. He'd never make a horlicks of things would he ?
Matt Traynor
606 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:39:04
I agree, we should all chant for Billy Blue Bollocks on Sunday for next manager. Let him complete the job he's started.
Peter Laing
608 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:36:27
Darren I share your belief, we have people on these pages calling for Malky Makay just because he has taken Cardiff up. Dave Jones had a couple of attempts and they have wealthy owners and what appears to be a strategy for building the Club, although the decision to change to red from blue was a bad one. Both Stubbs and Ferguson along with Sheedy have more passion and insight into the Everton psyche and whoever comes in will still be working under the strain of Bungalow Bill and his sham directors. Stubbs and Ferguson will give youth a chance, whoever takes over next is a major risk / gamble.
Nelly Verdonghan
614 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:44:09
Wonder if Davie will be taking Jimmy Lumsden & Steve Round as part of his new backroom staff ???
Ben Jones
620 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:50:55
To be honest, even though Moyes was successful, I don't want a Moyes type appointment for Utd, to continue what Moyes had wanted.

I saw some stories seeing how we played attractive football with a limited budget, which I think is misleading, we don't always play attractive football. I want a change, where the football is good. That's why I don't want someone from within, it will just be the same as the last 11 years, and despite us finishing high up the table, I'm bored!! I want to see something different!

Plus the lack of experience is a factor, though they know the club inside out, and the league, management is a different kettle of fish.

Ben Jones
621 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:54:13
Sorry, that first sentence doesnt make any sense!! Moyes was appointed to Utd, because of his similarities to Fergie, and so Moyes can continue what Utd have been so successful at in the past, without too much change. I think we're due a change.
Johnny Rainford
629 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:47:14
Heart is saying promote from within but head is saying we need someone with experience.

Whoever comes in, can we have some sort of return in silverware please? The £22M Moyes picked up during his last contract is a ludicrous amount to pay for "stability", one cup final, and the odd game in the Europa League.

Richard Reeves
651 Posted 10/05/2013 at 17:35:59
Promote from within and get relegated.
No thanks.
Steve Pugh
720 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:40:13
Has an ex player ever got us relegated. I know they're responsible for every trophy, just wondered whether it worked the other way?
Dick Brady
725 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:29:00
We are a Top 6 Premiership side and must appoint a manager accordingly. We have to aim high and Bill Kenwright must sell the club to the best candidates he can find.

Jose Mourinho should be the first port of call follwed by Jurgen Klopp.

Chances are both will turn the opportunity down but I strongly feel Kenwright should aim high. Really deliver his best bullshit and play on the fact that Everton are the 6th best Premiership team.

After that maybe turn to Fabio Capello, Michael Laudrup, Vitor Pereira or Manuel Pellegrini. And if they are not interested then start looking at the more realistic Roberto Martinez, Neil Lennon, Malkay McKay and Mark Hughes.

Of course it would be romantic and exciting to give Duncan Ferguson, Alan Stubbs or Phil Neville a chance but that would be very daring and could back fire.

Kenwright could also be controversial and hand Rafa Benitez the reigns of this 'small club'. Benitez has a proven record and is actually doing a good job at Chelsea. But I cant imagine Kenwright would upset Everton fans by appointing Benitez.

Anyway for me Kenwright should start at the top, Mourinho, Klopp, and work his way down until he gets the best possible manager.

James Stewart
731 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:48:12
One of the worst ideas I have seen on here in a long time. Madness.
James Stewart
742 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:59:45
Although according to the poll on here more people want Benitez than Gus Hiddink. Truly mind boggling
Wayne Smyth
753 Posted 10/05/2013 at 19:04:01
Thats only cos' the bar service is shit at goodison, James.
Ross Edwards
759 Posted 10/05/2013 at 19:09:26
What about the Toffee Lady?
Sean Patton
854 Posted 10/05/2013 at 20:10:26
Darren

It is nice to see a new name posting an article here and I know the events of the last week have been traumatic for a lot of fans and I am trying not to be too harsh here and don't take this the wrong way but put down the ale and step away from the keyboard!

Steven Telford
865 Posted 10/05/2013 at 20:13:57
Pity United never gave Brian kidd a chance, then it could have been their decline.
Johnny Rainford
881 Posted 10/05/2013 at 20:22:51
Kenwrongs biggest challenge and nothing he has ever done inspires confidence that he will get this right. He didnt have to think about signing Moyes because walter didn't just give him Moyes phone number, but probably made the call ffs.

No, This one takes a bit of thinking about.

(feelings of dread)

Paul Ellam
882 Posted 10/05/2013 at 20:31:41
Would rather see us go for an attack minded manager who is hungry to impress the football world and has a winning mentality from actually winning something.
Step forward Vitor Pereira
Gerry Morrison
903 Posted 10/05/2013 at 20:58:24
Wayne (753) you made me laugh out loud, thanks.
Ian McEvoy
085 Posted 11/05/2013 at 04:39:54
One of the most experienced European managers, currently in charge of the German Champions and Champions league finalists will be unemployed in the summer. Compare 11 years at Everton with 2 years teambuilding at Bäyer Leverküsen (Heynkes's previous team). You only get what you pay for.
Anto Byrne
102 Posted 11/05/2013 at 06:41:43
Whoever comes in will have the task of rebuilding this aging side. How many are the wrong side of 30? How many players on the books are dead wood and just not good enough? Then if we want to see expansive football played at a high tempo with players actually carrying the ball forward in midfield and running at defences. ( I saw Barkley do this on his limited playing time).

Can we mix it up with some counter-attacking football and can we get a new man In that will restore the confidence of Jelavic? The neat joined up stuff played at walking pace allowing the other side to amble back and flood the defence will have to change under the new man. Whoever comes in will be charged with maintaining our premiership status, keeping the fans onside and having complete contempt for all the other clubs that we play.

I don't want a Martinez or Benitez nor do we need ex-players stepping up. Neville needs to learn his trade at a lower league club and bring them thru. If we got a Mourhino type we may get a new buyer? The special one will have his work cut out, however this would show just how good this guy is? If Kenwright had any moral fortitude he would at least sound him out. Anyway the King is dead long live the King.
Paul Andrews
131 Posted 11/05/2013 at 09:02:26
Anto,

"the neat joined up stuff played at walking pace"
That sums the tactics of David Moyes up perfectly

Eric Myles
148 Posted 11/05/2013 at 09:22:26
So Hughes or Allardyce it is then!!
Christopher Timmins
184 Posted 11/05/2013 at 10:19:41
I write the following as a supporter of David Moyes for the past 10 years

Folks promotion from within in not the way forward. We have got to try something new in order to obtain the goal of Champions League Football. Hopefully, that remains the goal. We need a foreign manager who will bring us back to our core values, " to the school of science way of playing football". A foreign manager who will demand a realistic budget from the Board in order to provide us with a shot of obtaining our goals.

This week has been a shameful week for Everton football club. Treated as a third rate outfit, a feeder to club to Manchester United. If Bill things there is merit in keeping Moyes in charge for the last two games he is mistaken.

With Moyes departure can Kenwrightś departure be far behind.


Franny Porter
200 Posted 11/05/2013 at 11:05:52
The same Alan Stubbs who told the most promising British youngster to ever come from these shores to jump ship?
Ross Edwards
289 Posted 11/05/2013 at 14:34:59
Sorry Neil Verdin, I'm going to have to say that man again. Step forward Mr De Boer.
Duncan Wisman
296 Posted 11/05/2013 at 14:43:07
Why has nobody mentioned Juergen Klopp? Is there no chance? He must be the best young manager out there.
Ross Edwards
298 Posted 11/05/2013 at 14:51:03
Duncan, I don't think it will happen but I would be delighted.
Ben Jones
300 Posted 11/05/2013 at 14:51:14
Duncan and Ross

Managing a title winning Dutch side with a fantastic youth set up, or managing a title winning German side, semi final of the Champions League with an even better youth set up and faciltiies.

They will not be interested in coming to Everton.

Ross Edwards
304 Posted 11/05/2013 at 14:55:52
I know Ben but thanks to the progress we have made we should be looking to top European coaches. The days of struggling are over.
But,unless we email BK with a list its going to be Lennon isn't it?
What's BK's email?
Ben Jones
309 Posted 11/05/2013 at 15:06:18
Yeah I do agree, but at least be realistic!
Ross Edwards
314 Posted 11/05/2013 at 15:09:56
Anyone know BK's email address? I was thinking of sending him a list of possibles followed by a list of no-nos. You know, since he suddenly cares about what we think...
Colin Glassar
354 Posted 11/05/2013 at 15:45:30
Ross, 020 7446 6200 is BK's office number in London. We should all call him and, in a very respectful manner, tell him we don't want McKay, Lennon, Hughes or any of the other dead wood being linked to us.
Ross Edwards
358 Posted 11/05/2013 at 15:49:33
Colin
What's his email?
Colin Glassar
374 Posted 11/05/2013 at 15:59:54
No idea mate. I'll try and google it.
Colin Glassar
379 Posted 11/05/2013 at 16:02:48
info@kenwright.com there you go.
Ross Edwards
397 Posted 11/05/2013 at 16:19:11
I have just written an email to Bill listing him the names we want and the names that he should avoid.
I suggest that other Evertonians should do the same and send emails to Bill on this email: info@kenwright.com to make our opinions heard.
Alasdair Mackay
790 Posted 11/05/2013 at 21:40:10
Spoke to my Dad today and he mentioned a name that I haven't heard yet, but I would like to see considered - Stuart McCall.
Thomas Windsor
769 Posted 13/05/2013 at 12:31:46
I would like to see Martin Jol appointed. His teams always play good football and he was unlucky to have got the sack at Spurs.

Richard Harris
068 Posted 14/05/2013 at 00:17:45
If the U21s playing style (and I use the word style loosely) is anything to go by, then don't let Stubbs and Weir anywhere near the first team.....
Rob Sawyer
069 Posted 14/05/2013 at 00:24:03
Alasdair (790) - yes I think Stuart McCall and Gus Poyet are two worthwhile outside bets.
Colin Glassar
071 Posted 14/05/2013 at 00:30:05
Exactly Richard. One thing is passion and love for the club another thing is being tactically astute enough to beat the likes of wenger, Mourinho and co.

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