It probably isn't true though as Neville hasn't got his coaching badges yet has he?

One minute Martinez, the next Pip. I want my money back for the Alex Young Lounge next season if this turns out correct... Tossers.

Although we don't spend a lot of money, any manager you would think would need some and a little time to spend it, that's why it will be a late choice as the board hide the new money and the Fellaini, Mirallas and Baines money on operating costs. Long live blue bill and the best biggest team in the championship!!!!!!!

Let's see shall we.

Andrew, Neville, first team football at a championship club or Div 1, Div 2 or manager of Everton fc, no brainer IMO.

I personally think Bill should be brave enough to avoid Moyes and his suggestion because we need to aim as high as possible for the future and Moyes is no fortune teller, all he can do is recommend.

It depends on who he does recommend, but Bill will probably not dare do anything other than what Moyes wants. (He will play it like an on-going story or legacy of David Moyes and hire Martin O'Neill.)

It will most likely come down to what Moyes wants, but if he is smart then he would take the feel of the Everton supporters first when picking our new manager. This summer I wish for an attacking young manager who loves to develop youngsters more than anything and is good at it. Also he needs to have an eye for the right players and not waste money like Mancini is happy doing.

So much for a top name.

Unfortunately we are one of them clubs

Personally I feel giving him the Everton job now is a risk but every great manager has to start somewhere. We could miss the Phil Neville train if he goes elsewhere to begin his managerial career.

Appointing Phil Neville would be a brave decision but it could really pay off because he will be a great boss somewhere.

Can I still vote for him? [I see no-one can vote for Davey Weir!!!]

But Phil Neville was brought up with attacking flair football at Old Trafford. Surrounded by the likes of Giggs and Cantona.

The truth is we don't know what style of football Phil Neville the manager might employ.

Remember Pep Guardiola was a defensive midfielder and Arsene Wenger was a centre back/sweeper.

I'd say that makes his a sought after coach.

Secondly, how is it that the team that has been the 6th best team in the most popular/biggest league in the world, and its manager has just left to the biggest team in the world are linked with some pretty average managers?

Must look foreign, and look no further than Porto; at 16/1, it's worth a tenner.....

But not Pip, we are at the point where we need to go the next level up. If we get a Pip, Lennon etc fortunately we have a margin that Moyes has given us that will take us a level down, and cost money to sack him.

Because BK is chairman Kristian.

your now talking about building on Moyes's good work. Moyes hasn't done any good work in your opinion.Ross, your just a walking contradiction!

Although Moyes will walk away having picked up... what... £39M of Everton's money.

[Ouch! Is that really true?]

Would it be as bad as I originally thought?

I am warming to the idea a little bit but not the Weir bit. I can see it going tits up quickly though and then what? Mick Mcarthy the magician??? FFS. No, keep them away — what was I thinking???!

Dalglish was 34 at the time and went on to win three League titles, two FA Cups and one League Cup.

Dalglish had no problem managing the players he previously played with. In fact he continued to play in the same team as them as Player/Manager.

I suspect the players will want him and Phil's an excellent pro. But surely he's way too inexperienced. But a Big Dunc, Neville + a mentor such as Joe Royle, could be an interesting proposition?!

I will back whoever it is but Neville would not be my first pick... Or second... Or third... Etc.

When I said the obligatory: "What can he possibly teach them?" He replied with: "Everything it takes to win. You don't need to be a brilliant player to know how to win"

So if he did hang about and became a coach or even a manger at Everton, then maybe it wouldn't be as bad as some fear.

Just a thought

Martinez is like Rodgers — a media-driven choice and flavour of the month. There is a reason as to why he and Wigan are going down: you cannot play Russian roulette every year like they have and keep surviving.

The only thing that worries me is he will continue the chairman lovefest.

Also this is a guy who said " Finishing in the the top 10 is a real achievement for a club like Everton", is that the mentality we want from a manager?

If it was out of the 2 I'd happily opt for Pip

Cheap, will not rock the boat. Right up BKs crafty avenue.

The only positive I can think of is....at least it's not mark Hughes.

Plays out nicely all this. Get the season ticket applications out early, let the news break and then pretend its all a big shock.
Kenwright can now drag out the search for a manager and then give it to Neville. All done on the cheap and minimal money spent on the squad during the summer.

It appears that the unanimous opinion is that Moyes is doing nothing wrong? Well maybe, maybe not but Bill Kenwright is responsible for doing the right thing for Everton FC.

Gentlemen I fear that our biggest problem is not who is going to be our next manager as with bungling Bill running the show it does not really matter who is our next manager.

Fine, not brilliant. But fine none the less. I'd expect a 5/6/7th guaranteed by Moyes while holding the same outside chance of top 4.

Then again, if Fellaini leaves and with Moyes' wages gone, and the Sky deal then you never know what Pip can do with the money.

I'd still want Hiddinck.

So the first judgement point will be preseason friendlys, then the first game of the season.

No pattern can emerge until a number of games have been played.

Neville based on his playing - no way...but he won't be playing. All that will mean is that Boys pen Billy is a cheapskate and a dickhead, but we knew that.

Remember, you wouldn't pick Catterick on his rep as a player

Lets wait and see. If, in our own quantum multiverse, we all get the manager we want appointed. We will still have to;

Wait

And

See.

Massive hairy flaps!

He was as short as 5/1 mid last week. I know, because I put a fiver on him at ladbrokes.

So, nothing to see here.

My mate said I bet Mourinho has got a car like that. I said he's Portuguese though....my mate said yeah, but he works in Spain.

That's it then. It's Mourinho! Our window cleaner will confirm it tomorrow....he's also a steward at the club.

I'll keep everbody informed. I just love reliable inside information.

You need more than tactical nous to be a manager. What about contacts etc. Does Phil have a plan in place to rework this team? Or is he just going to follow the DM masterplan?

Kenwright, Moyes has gone it's time to tread a new path, not attempt some Frankenstein-style reincarnation of Moyes, the club is too important for that.

And BK being a real Evertonian, you'd be in seventh heaven. (At best).

See what I did there? Didn't think so.

One thing Pip offers is that he is a winner. He has played and won medals at the highest level and knows what it takes to achieve that. Added to the fact only ex-players have actually won trophies with us, then that too bodes well.

I never thought Dalglish would be a decent manager but sadly he proved me wrong........though he did fuck off as soon as any pressure was on him. Same goes for Poyet, Di Matteo and Di Canio. And Pip has won a lot more than them as a player.

As has been stated, I remember Pip having a dig at Moyes for the 11 men back at corners and a couple of other things, and he would want to be his own man with his own style. He was brought up on attacking football so he might surprise us.

Just don't let a less than gifted payer or a bad pass against Wigan cloud your judgement. Remember, neither Moyes nor Ferguson were great players!!!

We are already a laughing stock we get Man U cast offs, they get our superstars. We groom their next manager and now their manager is helping us choose our next one in his own image. FFS

Has everyone been on the ale after match?

Better the Neville you know?

Let me me say now I don't want a Pip - Weir - BK love fest, I want someone who has been no part of the Moyes Boys set-up. What next? Osman first team coach? — because that won't be far off if Pip gets in.

Redshites are loving this fiasco as well because that's what BK has turned this into another fiasco:

EFC... Everton Football Circus.

There's not a lot wrong with this side that a cold blooded 20 goal a season striker wouldn't solve. If we'd have had that player this season those costly late draws wouldn't have occurred and the top 4 would have been a real chance

I think Pip with Round and either Duncan or somebody else as 1st team coach could be the ticket

I just have this suspicion that Neville is far more a natural leader than any of our internal candidates and that they might have found their level. Saying that they are far more successful at a youth level, so these guys have done especially well. Is Nevile just in more headlines and tv cameras.

You might say they deserve it more, but Neville seems the more obvious choice.

Hold onto your hats guys this could make for an interesting few weeks!!

But the man does have many other praiseworthy characteristics not least being a voracious determination to remain in the game at a coaching/managerial level at which he seems to be showing some very real potential according to significant people in the game itself.

In addition I am not sure that equating playing ability with the ability to coach/ manage is always justified. After all... to the best of my knowledge, Mourinho, Wenger, Ferguson himself, Villas Boas, Paisley, Catterick, Benitez etc hardly set the playing fields of the UK or Europe alight and yet they seem to have made a pretty good fist of all things managerial/coaching etc.

Moyes's departure does create something of a watershed at Everton but the club is still in many ways in a very precarious position. Anybody coming into the managerial position at Everton is facing very real problems. A precarious financial position; a crumbling stadium; a somewhat less than proactive, visionary Board of Directors; a lamentable marketing strategy and – not least of all – a team that is in need of development. All this is set within an amazing support base and affection for the club and a yearning desire to return to the days when the team and the club could compete with the best in the land.

A new manager is going to take some considerable time to "acclimatise" himself to the realities of the situation which embraces building not only a team but also the development of the other aspects of the club that can facilitate such team improvement. This tricky situation is what, in my opinion David Moyes managed to do rather well during his time here and which, in my opinion, stands as one of his major achievements.

I am not advocating Phil Neville as THE next Everton manager. But it may mean there is a need for someone with real knowledge and appreciation of the realities of the wider situation; a knowledge of the work that has contributed to the progress made over the last 11 years; a commitment to scouting, signing, coaching, and managing a set of players to bring about improved team performances; a real desire to make a mark as a team manager at the club over a significant period; and a real respect for the culture of the club and the loyalty and aspirations of the fan base. If indeed this was the case then someone such as Phil Neville may well not be very far out of the frame.

Now lets mention 3 managers who didn,t have a quite as good playing career, working under good managers:
Alex Ferguson
Arsene Wenger
Jose Mouriniho

I joked last week that if Neville were to become the new boss, I will be the very first (and certainly not the last) person to unashamedly announce that...I am a NOB.

I should have copyrighted it...I am the founding member of the NOB. I could not stomach such a crap choice. The man has zero managerial experience, and even though I appreciate his eight-year stint, I do not even want him as a number two.

Although he wouldn't be my pick, the talk in the Gwladys today was of a done deal for Martinez, and in the light of Marsh's news, I would snap Martinez's hand off right now..!!

(Food and some coffee...I'm half-cut & bewildered..and my Kopite wife's in a great mood........:)

Also Neville knows the club under this regime, and knows its not going to change while BK is in charge. He also knows that BKs expectations aren't high, so keeping us in the league, would keep his job.

Get Rafa in.

Wigan: Jun 2009 - present - won 34, drawn 36, lost 57
Swansea: Feb 2007 - Jun 2009 - won 63, drawn 37, lost 26

We could do a lot worse, we have a talented squad I his style of play could mean we are no longer the PL draw specialists, ok we may loose a few but instead of running the clock down we try finish teams off a bit better

BK said they would take their time before deciding so hopefully that means this nightmare scenario is just that – a nightmare that you at least wake up from.

Wait until the season is over and then sound out whoever is on the shortlist. Until then it's going to be silly season.

How about Neville as player manager? Would be just like a new signing and BK gets 2 in 1!

It could be Phil Neville, that would be weird

But the last shot was him hugging Neville and one of the studio talking heads saying (and I'm using quotes but it's not exact), "I wonder why they showed that" and getting a chuckle from one of the other heads.

But Neville as a manager? It's a hell of a big job to start your management career in. Too much of a gamble for me.

I was also the numpty who directly asked Phil Neville, when he was getting out of his car, if he was our next manager. He smiled at me, but said nothing. I didn't read anything into that to be honest, but I'm sure some will!

For what it's worth, I think that Gary Neville is the most insightful pundit on TV, and if Phil Neville has this same outlook, he will make a great coach for somebody in the near future.

Kenwright is definitely listening to the fans if he appoints these two! What has Weir been doing?

I'm not sure what's worse – the new badge or Neville as manager. What's scary for me is I could see it happening. I reckon Kenwright could make a decision on the next manager on the strengths of that reception Neville had today and with being Moyes's Number 2 since he's been here. Another yes-man with unswerving loyalty to the man who pays his wage.

I was really surprised at Gary Neville when he started commentating but have to agree he's one of the best by a long way.

I think going for Phil Neville without management experience is a big step

On another tangent did anyone else see Collins walking straight out and down along the Main Stand after the game today, not sure if he was making his own way home or off into town.

Mirallas up front on his own is a good shout, but my fear is that he could easily be bullied or injured out of matches, a bit like Andy Johnson. I thought our shape was excellent today, and the only thing we're missing is Jelavic circa Feb-May 2012 !

I dunno what to make of this but surely it's wrong to assume Neville's play over the past couple of years would indicate his managerial style.

Stubbs, Neville and Weir have all been as high as 40/1 at some point this week so they've all tumbled.

That's what spending all day on a 7500 word assignment does to you!!!!!

Looks like Man Utd in the foreseeable future as assistant and back to us in 5 years or so as manager for the Mighty Blues...

Simples!

http://www.betvictor.com/sports/en/football-specials/coupon/6692/next-everton-manager

Roberto Martinez 9/4
Neil Lennon 4/1
Malky Mackay 5/1
Alan Stubbs 5/1
Phil Neville 10/1

Now okay Neville in some sort of coaching role, but gaffer - no, nope, nay, thrice times nay, nein, non?

Laudrup disappearing it seems Martinez, so be it. Wigan will go down in two days time. Martinez will be our next gaffer before our last game

No bookmakers are taking bets only Skybet who are not proper bookies. The other prices shown on Oddschecker are for the Exchanges, Betfair and Betdaq who are also not Bookies.

When the likes of Hills and Ladbrokes cease trading on a market, it usually means they smell a rat or the race is run. Something has leaked out; otherwise, the prices would still be up mate. Not saying it's Neville.... just unusual..

I watched the West Ham game live on Foxtel here in Adelaide. Geeesus! The atmosphere was electric and I wished I was there. It seemed just like it was back in the 60's and 70's.
COYB
P.S. I notice the poll is showing an increased vote for Martinez! Didn't Wigan play well? Not my choice for manger but he's young, too (well, compared to me and to BK, that is! Maybe Tim Cahill!? Looked like him sitting next to BK)

When I talk about most managers are meaningless, he's the poster boy.

Why would anyone want him in control of EFC over 38 games? And in control over 38 games for 3 years or so (by contract) mystifies me.

If he's any good and can offer anything as a coach or manager and those around the club know he can do the job, then I would like to see him do it. He'll need help as most do (remember Moyes when Irvine left & before Round came in?) but if there's a chance he can take us forwards then give him the job.

We're just the fans, we have no idea what goes on in training or in dressing rooms etc

If he's any good and can offer anything as a coach or manager and those around the club know he can do the job, then I would like to see him do it. He'll need help as most do (remember Moyes when Irvine left & before Round came in?) but if there's a chance he can take us forwards then give him the job.

We're just the fans, we have no idea what goes on in training or in dressing rooms etc

Totally finished with the club? I'll happily give you both a kick down Goodison Road and on your way-->

Interesting times ahead, but no-one knows where we're headed, let's be perfectly honest.

PS well done Lydon on some fantastic, balanced match reports this year - clearly the main contribution to your Blog of the Year nomination.

It is widely reported that Davey Moyes recommended him to BK, which seems about right as he would be confident that Pip wouldn't be looking to do much more than keep things going pretty much as they are. BK will regard him as a proven loyal employee and unlikely to rock the boat.

Whoever the new manager is they won't be expecting to change things radically as there won't be the money available for major squad reformation. If the likes of Martinez are actually interested in the job, knowing the financial constraints they will have to operate under, then I would hope he would be thinking he just has a few ideas of his own to add to what is already established.

That is what I am hoping for; someone who can appreciate the foundations DM has created but has a bit of extra flair to put into the mix. Phil Neville is completely unproven in that regard and so no-one could reasonably expect that he may be the one who could get us to the next level.

A big worry of mine are the statements coming out of the club about not being rushed into an appointment. The cynical side of me thinks that is code for we might not be able to attract the type of manager we would like (due to the revelations that would come at interview time) or it is a deliberate tactic to allow certain inevitabilities (the sale of some players to raise cash for things other than team building) to occur early doors.

But seriously, I do think P-Nev will make a good manager one day, but you should NEVER be able to walk into a job like this at one of the most illustrious clubs in the history of the game without having a try somewhere else first to see if you're actually any good. It seems absolutely ludicrous to me!

At least he won't be doing the Hoddle "you get to speak once you can do this..." [cue ridiculous skill] before getting his mate to do a seance or something.

The Mackay link pisses me off almost as much. A championship manager we'd have to pay 3 million in compensation for? Recommended by the man that just left us for a club in the same league? Man fuck David Moyes's opinion. He's Manchester United's manager. He no longer has any interest in helping us achieve anything.

It's not that hard Bill. Just do some research on managers in the top leagues/out of work managers that have experience and make an informed decision that is right for the club. I'll give you a hint: There are guys that have won the Champions League, FA Cup, and top foreign leagues/cups available.

Can't believe some people are suggesting Benitez!?! This is the man that regularly turned his nose down at us and even called us a "small club", and was generally laughed at by me and other Bluenoses for being tactically inept and terrible in the transfer market.

The words "off" and "fuck" come to mind - rearrange them to form a sentence!

http://www.paddypower.com/football/football-specials/manager-specials?ev_oc_grp_ids=780266

Neville unbackable!!!!

He is living on our doorstep, his children attend local schools and he has long expressed a desire to return to merseyside.

Not one of the names mentioned above is comparable with this bloke who is well known to us all.
It is quite extraordinary that would be coaches are bandied about and not a mention is made of this vastly more experienced bloke.
One guess who he is.

It makes perfect sense when you think about it: a new manager will bring in his own people therefore we will need to give the current staff payoffs... can you imagine Bill writing out checks when he doesn't need too?

JOBS FOR THE BOYS

Pip and Weir is the cheap option (no compo, no ridiculous salaries). But if Kenwright thinks this job is suitable for a first timer - he's just as reckless as I thought he would be.

...cue howls of laughter from accross the park.

You never know, maybe he will be a top manager. But it's a big risk to take for one of England's top clubs who can't really afford too many mistakes. I don't really fancy being 'crisis club Everton' again.

"I feel my standards have dropped a bit lately and I've struggled a bit physically," .
"I've got some fantastic options and I need to weigh things up with my family."

It wouldn't be my first choice, but it's far far better than some of the names mentioned.

So have we all been just dragged into a good premature moan by Tony M ?

Laudrup has been conducting his own Everton job interview in a way. Last night on MotD he refused to say he wasn't interested in the job, I mean, what do people expect him to say? If he say's he is interested and doesn't get the job then he would lose a lot of respect and maybe support from the club he goes back to.

I also noticed last night when asked if It is so important to have a large squad in Europe, he said it helps but it is more important to have your players adapt mentally and at the press conference after or before the Man Utd game he highlighted how he wants to take the lowest spending club to the middle of the league on a regular basis and that although money helps it is not the most important thing.

I'm sure he IS interested and the time and backing that Moyes was given must also be appealing to him along with a far better squad and larger fan base. It's a no-brainer for me: spend the money to get him and watch him take us to the next level on a small budget and develop the youngsters.

He'll be available in the summer, a proven winner and a brilliant tactician.

Let's get him in

Duncan Ferguson? Well that's be our entry into Europe via the Fair Play card out of the window!

Whether it would be a good appointment or not, I have no idea but it would certainly provide me with the biggest laugh ever at their expense.

For them it would be like finding out your dearly beloved, good lady wife was bang-at-it with your biggest enemy (and allowing him '50s tea-towel holder' action).

Plus they'd have to cut his head off that big tatty banner and they'd have to burn all those lovely Saddam-style framed portraits they carried about the streets in his honour.

Actually, the more I think of it...

I am almost convincing myself it could actually work...

It just got me thinking about what acts against us means a player couldn't or should play for us... or manage us eg Sewer Rat's tackle/assaults or Hughes's work over Lescott?

Brian, unfortunately we are the bitter ones. It's part of the reason why Gerrard's recent remark about us winning nothing just because we finished above them hit home so hard. If Rafa will improve us then just let history go for fuck sake.

Benitez would be an iffy choice. He bamboozled many RS fans by chopping and changing the team but has done well at Chelski.

I would chance my arm with Hughes or O'Neill but forget ex-Everton players who have done nothing as managers although Peter Reid, Joe Royle (again) and Dave Jones could be given a shot. However, my favourite is Martinez.

Phil Neville & Davie Weir.... absolutely never!!

IMO, the next appointment could possibly the MOST important one in our long and illustrious history... We currently lie 6th in the EPL not 17th like when Moyes took over. Moyes was a gamble that in the main worked for Kenwright; however, had Moyes failed then (at that time) deep down if we're being completely honest then most of us were all resigned to us possibly being relegated at some stage due to the mess Walter had gotten us into.

The next manager of EVERTON FC...that's right EVERTON FC....who are still in terms of League titles won the 4th most successful club in English football history... The next manager, depending on who it is, will either push us on to the the next level by playing attacking "we're not frightened of you" football and possibly win us a trophy, or he will kill this club completely... I fear if Neville, Stubbs, Weir, Ferguson or anybody of that ilk is appointed, it will no doubt be the latter and we will become another Leeds, Wolves or Portsmouth at some stage.

I do not trust Kenwright with this appointment... and according to the many reports, posts etc that I've read since Wednesday, not many people do. Many of us believe that this decision will be like the majority of decisions he's taken during his tenure... the WRONG one!!

This decision is probably his BIGGEST since he ousted Johnson and the future of our club DEPENDS on it... If he gets it wrong then I fear a return to the Walter days sooner rather than later... or perhaps even worse... And if that happens, then his eyes filling with tears whilst singing "It's a Grand Old Team" on MotD whilst Moysie milks the applause on the pitch won't save him!!

Think very very carefully, Kenwright.....you are destroying this club before our very eyes... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do NOT kill it completely!!

I'll be happy with the former as I can see us playing very expansive, ballsy attractive football.

With a defensive minded no. 2 of course (Stubbs, Weir, Neville) to solidify our rearguard.

Mackay reminds me of a young Moyes, although a tad happier!

Ray, I've got this image of him coming home, dropping his shopping bags in front of him, saying to the missus "makes us a cup" and then started to spin wildly like a whirling dervish!

I do think that Benitez is someone who is just interested in results so on that level he could be good but the dark side will always be his first love no matter what success he brings here so for that reason which might be a bit petty, it's a big no for me.

For that read I will appoint someone soon who the supporters will just have to get used to.

IMO we need someone with "big" club and "winning" mentality who knows the football scene quite well.

I would have elected for Laudrup but it looks like he is not interested and would be too "expensive".

But we should be considering the likes of Mourhino, Hiddinck, Rijkard, Klopp etc. and breaking the bank to attract them with it being a real challenge for them.

Dream big and think big.

The likes of Martinez,Lennon etc are just a joke.

White socks.

There, I've done it. Who's David Moyes.....?

Why do some people want to change things and go against history? Man Utd are red, white and black; we are blue and white so how does black belong on our first team or alternative first team kit?Please don't point to the Black Watch kits – that was before we were known as the blues.

How about an Amber way shirt hombres? I'm fucking tired of shitty black/pink/grey shirts.

I don't understand why RS have resorted back to their crest from the 70s and 80s as a means of dealing with copyright (which happens to be a very simple emblem). Yet we are having to swallow a fat looking tower with EVERTON scribbled below just incase some c**t forgot what he was looking at.

I do however think a small change might be good. How about black socks for season? We've actually wore black socks for 20 or so seasons historically.

...anyway next manager - I'd settle for Hughes or Megson if we could rid ourselves of Blue Bill for good.

However, Moyes has been a great servant to the club but he is now History. Martinez, Laudrup and Vitor Pereira would be great. Martinez even though is constantly in a relegation battle with Wigan, he has just won the FA Cup, Wigan play great football and he has to work with limited funds like us. He also has sold key players since he took over such as Valencia and Moses.

Michael Laudrup encourages attractive football but also has a plan b. He also has a great knowledge of European football so he could find great bargains from Spain and other countries.

Vitor Pereira is about to win another title with Porto when it seemed unlikely until Porto beat Benfica after being a goal down and being behind them in the table. If Porto win next week they will win the title in Portugal. He also encourages attractive football and has managed big ego's like Joao Moutinho and Lucho Gonzalez.

Best for Neville would be to join the coaching staff alongside a new manager from outside of the club, as already suggested, or to cut his managerial teeth in the lower divisions as Moyes did. Bury anyone?

A Fiasco??? Really Tony?? Why is it a fiasco???

My guess is BK has a list of names but he is waiting until the season ends before making a move for the managers on that list.

Right now David Moyes is in charge for another game and a further month so there's no rush to make a rash decision.

Lets say Roberto Martinez is on the list, you cant blame BK for waiting until the season ends before making a move. You have to be respectful to Wigan after all.

I think the manager search will sing into action once the season ends. Until then we are in the capable hands of David Moyes for a few weeks longer.

Its pretty far from a fiasco Tony. Its not even really started yet.

A fiasco???? WHAT A DRAMA QUEEN.

Considering these comments and Moyes opinion that experience is more important than ever it seems unlikely he would recommend Phil Neville for the job.

Tony should know better then to believe these type of rumours.

Phil, Lennon, Weir, Stubbs or some other hard boy for me.

I'm preemptively depressed at the various reports which say that Vitor Pereira "would likely accept" the Everton job if it was offered. Because that would be a refreshing, exciting choice to make, and therefore it's probably a choice we won't make...

It is criminal for any male but aged 53 a sure fire indicator of suspect judgement not to mention slightly camp.

for one game only when we play Cardiff.

On face value it's difficult not to invest in a rifle with a scope.

PS. I knock Gibson every week. He played really well against West Ham. Well done mate.

Gareth Southgate

Moyes was Moyes, and now he's gone, but why do some people seem to expect that every other manager would line up for us? If they do basic check-up, we have no transfer kit for them. They'd have to use what is already here, and then sell/loan. As most, I expect we'll lose Fellaini or Baines soon, but even if not, what then...

The season after we'll win the league

Or go down

Or just be vaguely in interesting....again

This, the manager, is the correct conversation we should all be having ATM but whoever it is I will still be an Evertonian.
Done with Everton indeed. Tisk!

It can be Sourness, Old Nick or Benitez, it don't matter.

The worst choice of all though would be Mark Hughes, the worst manager EVER to manage a premiership team(s).

Hughes? Just say NO!

Thoughts?

"There are two options for the future - to get a project, two or three years to build a team like at Liverpool.

"Or maybe a top side with money where you can buy some players and maybe be challenging for trophies from the beginning.

"I'm sure we will have offers. We already have some clubs asking, but it depends on the level or the project."

The first one might be seen as a team like Everton, the second one, City.

I doubt it would happen though, especially as the papers have already got hold of the 'extra £10mil' available by not having Moyes for the next 5 years. That suggests that the new man is getting half what Moyes got.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2013/05/14/why-the-quiet-man-of-porto-vitor-pereira-could-make-a-big-noise-at-everton-fc-100252-33327542/

A manager I'd take over Hughes etc would be Sven. And though I'd never go with Rafa he has somehow become a nicer guy, in the same way Rodgers has become a bit of a dick. The Red Effect.

David. Your Jagielka news is a real bone-shaker. This lad is my Mr. Everton and we have to keep him. In fact, after the wonderful display at the weekend I don't want anyone to leave.

Scousers who are guaranteed to attract young talent.

He'll fucking do for ME!

I certainly prefer his philosophy to that of say Hughes, who seems more..

"I like my teams to play under a big grey cloud of total fucking loser miserableness, with no real discernible pattern of play, other than big joyless physical lumps running about and hoofing the ball whenever it comes close to them"

I don't know much about him (besides Wikipedia search) and it was something of a protest vote against the "rogues gallery" of the present runners and riders.

My gut feeling is we'll have our first EFC foreign manager.

The likes of Mackay, Lennon, Stubbs and Neville just don't have enough knowledge of lower league teams around Portugal or Spain. Look how much Martinez got Kone for.

I'm sure Bill knows this already though.

Having said that I suspect Phil Neville would make a great "wing man" for our new manager (that was his role under David Moyes). Our new manager must be a good tactician as well as being a hard case and someone who would win the players over quickly. I think Di Matteo and Neville would make a very good pairing.

One thing is for sure none of the usual suspects are going to provide the catalyst for getting EFC of the merrygoround it is on at the moment. It is going to take something that hasn't been tried before.

I am quite excited about it all - I just hope I am not going to be disappointed.

Is this one of their journalists simply busking, or did they see tears in Bill’s eyes when they mentioned Pereira’s name?

Not to be a name dropper or anything, but my wife and I were guests of one of the sponsors on Sunday. Therefore we got to mingle, ( I'm a very good mingler ) with the great and the good in the 1878 Suite. Before the excellent 3 course fine dining, Michele Roux type meal with complimentary drinks, yes I ended up slightly wobbly, and horsies hoovers, we had a visit from Phil Neville for a Q & A session. During this he said he would not be at Goodison next season as he wanted to continue playing !. He also said Captaining Everton was the highlight of his career so, I didn't believe to much.

Kevin Sheedy, or K as I call him, then got on the mic and said " Moyes has left the club in an unbelievable state" which got a few titters from hither and tither. Asked who he thought would get the Job he immediately said, wait for it ............... Big Dunc !!!!, this was met with a few sharp intakes of breath. he went on to say he's a great coach and brilliant with the under18's , to which one of the wags in our party said "we'll have Jimmy Tarbuck then" another titter

Just for the record I had Mozzarella Cheese with Parm Ham melon and sun dried cherry tomatoes for the starter, follwed by a lamb shank, yes you everything if you can afford it, then the main meal, then a cheese board with Coffee and biscuits. Absolutely superb

Oh and by the way I voted for Gus Poyet, but after watching his cheating moaning diving team last night, I've changed my mind. I'll go for Martinez

The polar opposite of Mark 'Massive Cunt' Hughes I suspect to get him all we would have to do is ask. But we won't.

This Pereira also sounds pretty damn exciting and I had £5 on him at 12-1, that he is now 28-1 doesn't look good. It looks bloody horrendous when you see Stubbsy narrowing in to 4-1

From the list of "realistic" candidates I suppose Martinez is about the only one I can work up any enthusiasm for.

I think it's a huge risk personally, adapting to a new leage like the Premiership from Portugal will be tough, especially at Everton. But I'll be very surprised if we have made him target 1. Surely that wouldn't have been Kenwright's doing? Does he even watch European football?

Anyway, after a night of passion (ie:10 mins drunken fumbling followed by unconsciousness) the next day she told me she had corporate seats for The Sydney Swans who were/are an Aussie rules side and did I fancy it.

Yes I did.

(they were playing the something Dockers but that's a much as I can remember about the game)

Anyway, before the game it was a three-courser of quite swanky grub.

Eg: 'Sun-dried wiffle-piffle on a bed of pan-seared sprokkle with a Jus of lavender-infused Spackle" (or whatever).

However at half time came the REAL treat.

When we went back in, out table had this mountain of mini-pies on it.

Fucking superb and every single one of them went.

Aussies and Kiwis are very big on their pies which makes them great countries in my book

(plus any country that produces women who would let the likes of me...)

Martinez's odds shortened after the cup final win but may either lengthen or shorten again if Wigan are relegated tonight. Irrelevant, I think. Martinez wants to go whatever happens, but whether or not we would offer him the job is quite another matter.

As Robbie says, a Pereira profile in the Echo might suggest he is being seriously considered by BK&Co. That makes more sense to me than the Poyet link.

This may put any manager who is out of contract in the driving seat.

But I hope Bill was reading the Echo.

Having been perusing these pages ever since I found out DM was going, please can someone explain to me why so many of you would even be contemplating Martinez as our next manager? My gut feeling is relegation battles every year with him in charge and my nerves and nails can’t take going back to them times.

Pereira or Laudrup for me.

A lucky win IMO.

What has he actually ever done as a manager apart from the cup win? Nothing.

Laudrup would be my pick but that's not happening either, as he'll take Swansea to Europe (and who can blame him).

Poyet might be OK, but no PL experience as a manager.

My current pick - and this will really upset the vast majority, is Rafa Benitez. His comments in the last few days stated he wants to stay in this country as his family all live here, he knows his way around Liverpool, and has all the credentials to do really well at Everton. Love him or loathe him (as we all mainly do) the guy has the stats to back it up. He's available, wants to work in the PL and regardless of anything else, is a really good manager. He knows the European scene well, knows the PL well......and apart from the obvious RS link, can anyone give me one good reason not to appoint Benitez?

Shoot me down. I know you all will, but he's the best man out there AND a free agent.

Bring in the Spanish waiter!

As I put in my earlier post Ben (165 ) I actually voted for Poyet, but I thought last night his team where horrible, whinging and diving, how the Spanish fucker with the funny beard didn't get sent off is beyond me, the tackle he put in on Zaha was disgraceful. So if Gus coach's his team to act like this, it's a big no no from me and good night from him, goodnight

Martinez
Laudrup
Poyet

I like managers like Pereira, Jorge Jesus, Diego Simone etc... But for every good, young, foreign manager who has made an impact we have others who did a great job at their previous clubs, e.g. Le Guen, Perrin, Juande Ramos etc....who have fallen flat on their faces here.
My personal choice would be Martinez with Stubbsy as his AM.

Mackay, - Too inexperienced and never managed in the Premier

Lennon - Done well in a 1 team league but has also never managed in the Premier

Laudrup - Ticks the boxes but the 10M buy out clause is too high

Di Matteo - Has a good CV but doesn't stay at a club for long whether that is down to him failing or trigger happy chairmen is up for debate.

Tuchel - Has done well on a budget in the Bundesliga but crucially for me has not won anything.

Favre - Similar to Tuchel no silverware to show for his efforts.

De Boer - Cant knock what he has done but doubts on if he would be interested and possible high compensation

Poyet - Failed his big test last night there are better options out there

Clarke - Too early to judge as he could be a one season wonder also unlikely to leave West Brom

Ignoring the promote from within choices as that would be way too risky it leaves two possibles Martinez and Pereira. One is set to be relegated and one has never managed outside his own country. I would be willing to take a chance on Pereira as he has operated on a sell to buy mandate at Porto but I would not be too unhappy with Martinez.

The rest of the names going around, simply don't cut it on any front.

Forget the RS link, he's perfect in every respect.

Nobody else that's been mentioned is worth the gamble.

Love it or loathe it, apart from the RS link, there is nothing against him at all.

I actually voted for Hiddink but that is a bit pie in the sky but somebody with that pedigree is who I would target. Regarding Benitez you can't pick any holes in his achievements but he would fire us off the second the mighty red men get shut of Rodgers.

Perhaps it's just as well, the Mardi Gras in Sydney always brings out the very best in visiting men, but that's what poms say about Australians, you know, "Australia, where the men are men...and so are the women"
Perhaps your luck was in after all lol..

Pereira is a completely unknown quantity who most of us had never even heard of until a few days ago.

Looks like it's me & Mike with our tin hats on!

Surely this is about the best manager we can get, and personally I don't see a better one than Benitez out there.

I know I'm probably pissing in the wind here by the way...

I have given my RS brother so much stick when he was their manager and disliked him so much I wanted Chelsea to do soooo badly when he first went there.

He loves the RS so would he destroy us on purpose (paranoia coming out).

If I had to and if it was for the good of Everton, at a push I’d support it. Least less nerve racking option than Martinez.

I don't like Benitez. Fact

The worst thing is, the Aussie women fall for it..

I'm really torn on this one it is such a crucial decision. Part of me thinks we should go for an experienced name as this would be the safe bet. Benitez should be a realistic appointment if we were to offer the new man the salary Moyes was reported to be on, and lets be honest, have we ever appointed a manager with anything like his CV? I also think Mark Hughes is nowhere near as bad a manager as some people have made out and I feel he would be a solid if unspectacular appointment.

Another part of me thinks we should be a little bit more creative with the appointment. Somewhere among the leagues of Europe (Including the UK) there will be a coach who in 10 years time will be one of the hottest managerial properties in world football, the type of manager that the super rich clubs are bending over backwards to appoint. Tommy Tuchel, has been mentioned for his scientific approach. Lucien Favre has a good record without doing the business at a big club. I'm sure there are plenty of coaches I have never heard of with great potential.

Obviously the risk would be greater with such an appointment (Solbakken, Berg) but the rewards could be great also.

Imagine if we really did discover the next 'special one'. If they left after 6 years to join one of the big boys after managing to bag us a bit of silverware while keeping us challenging for Europe each season then we'll all be happy.

I won't go into detail on the night itself, save to say, at least the beer went down well.

Re the Mardi Gras, well I WAS bevvied so..who knows.

Wouldn't have been a problem though as gay relationships do have their advantages.

As Jerry Seinfeld once said, 'you double your wardrobe instantly'.

I think the only thing I could never be is bi-sexual.

I couldn't have men turning me down as well as women

He's in the same class as John Barnes and Tony Adams for me.
The Shit-O-Matic School of Management.

James Beattie has just signed a 2 year deal to be manager of Accrington.

http://m.goal.com/s/en-gb/news/3887719

It makes reference to Bill's admiration for Pereira and claims that he was a guest at Goodison over the Christmas.

Firstly, someone mentioned that Pip decided to leave because he wanted to keep on playing... that is true, but in his post West Ham interview he said that he has struggled with his fitness over the last few months and is reconsidering what he wants to do... so that opens the door to him becoming coach/manager.... would that be with us? Remains to be seen, but maybe he'd accompany DM down the East Lancs and be his assistant at United.... wouldn't that also make sense for him? Is there any reason why that might not be possible given that they have a good working relationship and Pips of course a United supporter at heart even if he has a fondness for us....

Christine (231) So you are just like me having a surname with alcoholic links but no connection with the money-making side, ah well! who wants to be rich anyway?

Hughes - god no.
Lennon - Everton over Celtic, why?
O'Neill - please god no.
Poyet - why?
Mackay - who?
Stubbs - no.
Benitez - yes.

Here we are at Goodison with the runners and riders for the 3. O'clock "replace Moysie Stakes" Run over 11 years. with the going soft to fucking stupid.

Favourite @ 3/1 Is Number 27 Roberto Martinez, Looks nice and trim in the Paddock. In his last outing saw off a much stronger field to pick up some silverware, Normally comes strong at the end but has long had a dodgy back and looks likely to fall anytime.

2nd Fav @ 9/2 Is Number 666 Neil Lennon. Looks great in a one horse race and pretends he's doing OK. Very volatile and normally finishes in the stands most weeks

3rd is Gus Poyet @ 5/1. Strong when in front, but hasn't come from behind all season to win a race.

4th is Michael Laudrup @ 16/1, Absolute thoroughbred in his prime with a fine turn of speed. Seems to like the going a bit easier so could be a non-starter

5th is Phil Neville @ 18/1. Been training for this for a long time, gone right off the boil recently and not ran since the Wigan Debacle Chase. Not a lot peoples choice but could be a surprise contender

Just a couple of Outsiders to go through

At 20/1 Rafa the Gafa, Carrying an extra 64 Pound and having trouble with his girth. Fact:- needs feeding constantly and seems to have a disturbed brain at times. Fact:- goes off the rails if anyone gets the better of him. Fact:- Treated awfully at his last stable where the others picked on him.

25/1 Big Dunc. True front runner who can jump all day long, tends to get a bit thirsty after the race, has been known to stagger home at times. Bit of a loose cannon but you don't want to mess around with him.

30/1 Bar these, don't mention Bar to Big Dunc. £3.Fucking 60 for a pint of Cider. You can Feckoff

My personal Favourite would be Kevan Johnson. Relative newcomer, good with the fillies, tends to lag a bit.

"I am up to date with all modern training methods and an expert in the Alexander technique".

Nick - it says, "I really want the Everton job"

Hughes - dios no.
Lennon - Everton sobre el Celtic, por qué?
O'Neill - por favor dios no.
Poyet - por qué?
Mackay - Quién?
Stubbs - no.
Benitez - sí.

I'll stoppit now. Sorry.

STORY TIME:)
A father left 17 camels as an asset for his three sons. When the father passed away, his sons opened up the will.
The Will of the father stated that the eldest son should get half of 17 camels while the middle son should be given 1/3rd (one-third). The youngest son should be given 1/9th (one-ninth) of the 17 camels.
As it is not possible to divide 17 into half or 17 by 3 or 17 by 9, three sons started to fight with each other. So, the three sons decided to go to a wise man.
The wise man listened patiently about the Will.
The wise man, after giving this thought, brought one camel of his own and added the same to 17. That increased the total to 18 camels.
Now, he started reading the deceased father’s will.
Half of 18 = 9. So he gave the eldest son 9 camels
1/3rd of 18 = 6. So he gave the middle son 6 camels
1/9th of 18 = 2. So he gave the youngest son 2 camels.
Now add this up: 9 plus 6 plus 2 is 17 and this leaves one camel, which the wise man took back.
Moral :The attitude of negotiation and problem solving is to find the 18th camel i.e. the common ground. Once a person is able to find the common ground, the issue is resolved. It is difficult at times. However, to reach a solution, the first step is to believe that there is a solution. If we think that there is no solution, we won’t be able to reach any!

Now if BK can find that extra £100-150 million we need we'll be in clover.

I think that you are wrong here mate. He was at the Anfield cave-in last season.

Fact - Benitez wears man things
Fact - reminds me of Renne from you know that French resistance show
Fact - he's horrible
Fact - he is not actually that good of a tactician
Fact - he and Kenwright could not fit in a phone box together
Fact - he would kill to go back to the shite
Fact - we need someone else

Paul, do you think Moyes went to any of BK's shows? I don't think scots and 'culture' go well together. I can see Martinez going to the opera though. The guys got class and style.

Alan McGuffog, remember Brian Kidd when he left Man U to manage Blackburn and old whiskey nose relegated him?

".... Roberto Martinez's league record at Wigan: P150 W38 D42 L70...."

Dont get me wrong I wont be tearing my hair out and distraught if we get Martinez, I just don't buy into the media perception that he is a great manager in the making. I find those statistics very worrying, wigan or not!

Rule out for financial reasons anybody in a solid job with a big compensation cost, and also anyone who's not likely to stick around for long.

Then rule out many good candidates such as Klinsmann, who aren't going to leave their current positions... and Mourinho who is almost certainly already at Chelski....

This leaves a short shortlist of Pereira, Benitez and Martinez and possibly the likes of Bilic or McLaren.

I think Bill will be scared of what goes along with Benitez; unsure of Bilic, and surely won't want to have his trousers taken down by that that rancid old tramp at Wigan to pay compo for Martinez; so my money's on Vitor Pereira, with Steve Mc as an outsider.

Or not, as logic will be a million miles from his thought process.

If our manager is not one from this list, then I will eat my hat:

Phil Neville
Malky Mackay
Neil Lennon
Stuart McCall
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer

One thing I must say is that if any prospective new Manager sees that stupid fucking badge they have planned for next season they won't touch us with a barge pole!

Don't think the badge makes a blind bit of difference to anyone but us real fans - the vast majority of whom hate it.

The only crumb of comfort from an internal promorion of, say, Ferguson might be that shit like that, which represents this board's contempt for our traditions might be challenged.
Wonder how Dunc feels when he compares that cartoon to his famous tattoo?

Who ever it is; some will say ( rightly or wrongly ) no way jose he is not the one for us, citing this, that or the other factor.

One thing for sure, given our less that expansive financial status the final winner in this X factor will be some what of a compromise candidate.

Once appointed we will just have to hang on for the ride until a pattern emerges. If it's all going Mike Walker style then assess on Halloween, if it's all going gangnam style assess on bonfire night.

Until then it's all mostly moot

I for one won't buy anything with it on. It's the only way to make these idiots listen - hit them in the pocket.

I don't know why Nike are calling all the shots. None of their kits were any more than average, at £50 for a shirt ( now £15 and piled sky high in Everton 1 on Sunday with few takers ) they were way over priced and we are getting bugger all from them for wearing it. Even this fabled complicated badge is just a sewn on one with 'Everton' and '1878' in stitching whereas both Umbro and LeCoq had 100% stitched badges which were far superior.

Has any other Club ever changed it's badge to suit a manufacturer? I very much doubt it. If I was Chairman I 'd tell them to do one. Even bloody West Ham will be running round in adidas next season to add to Sunderland, Stoke and West Brom whilst we have to put up with these jokers!

Everton off the pitch make me grumpy! ( if there is a wrong way, especially on major decisions, the people in charge always find it )