Well said John, not sure it will happen, unfortunately it’s in the hands of Blue Bill & I have no confidence in him getting it right.

Either that or someone who say's nothing and delivers. I'm not too fussed about sound bites, it seems like we've had those for the last 11 years, a lot of ambition, promises and excuses.

We all want a top class manager and we would have more of a chance of getting that if we looked abroad.

Did anyone listen to TalkSport last night? Could Collymore be a closet blue? He often says positive things about our club and when asked who he thinks would be a good replacement he replied Laudrup. If anyone gets a chance I recommend they listen to what he had to say.

The reasons he gave were hard to disagree with and unbelievably when asked why Kenwright might recruit from within, he posed the question that it could be to do with employing someone who will toe the party line, so to speak.

He got the last one right.

Benitez's CV is as good as anybody's and he would likely win us a trophy because he knows how to. It's whether people can swallow that particular pill; personally I could if he took us forwards.

But from what I'm hearing amongst the rumour mill we'll probably get someone who aims for mid-table and stability

Want a job John.......not sure Bill would know what you are on about here, bur I assure you there are thousands of us who do.

Brilliant — I have read it 3 times already. Here's to you!

`Thank you John, the job`s your`s! Put the kettle on darling and sort out some bacon butties!`

What I would like to hear:

“Sorry me Eengliosh no speak very well. Me team always win wit good fooball. We no play, how you say, industrial fashun. In Portugal we like games win well. Me no like mid Atlantic Corporate guruspeak. I have only one job.”

Skysports News. Pulis leaves Stoke City ....... God No.

I really hope it's not Pulis!!!

Well said John Hughes.

I'd just about given up that Evertonians had any brains or guts anymore as Moyes moonlights for Utd while taking thousands out of EFC with impunity.

Sheer unadulterated piss for which there is only mealy mouthed weasel word snivelling excuse making of the worst kind.

This is the highest level of sporting professional competitiveness not swapping jobs between charity shops flogging second hand clothes for a quid.

You nail EXACTLY what has been missing this 11 years - lets hope someone out there has your intuition and courage.

Problem is.........The new guy can come in, say all that.......But achieving those statements will take more than a canny manager who attacks a bit more than Moyes and Signs one or two players, you know, a Van Persie like striker and a midfielder like Lampard 5 years ago (Both easily achievable for the 3million we saved on Moyes's wages).

I think it was the right time for the last manager to leave, but to suggest that all the new guy has to do is have a team that plays like Wigan on a good day to challenge 5 of the top teams in Europe is a wee bit wishful!

I hope the new guy comes in and says very little, but gets on with his job

No No No not shell-suit Pullis, please Lord no.

If so, you twat Teary Billy, you twat.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11701/8726282/Sky-sources-Tony-Pulis-leaves-Stoke-after-seven-years

No way would Pulis get the job.

That's 9 Premier League Clubs from this season that have parted company with the manager they had at the start of the season, with Martinez still to make a decision - it could be half the league!!

What a manager this guy is. United should have been hammering on his door.

Fascinating read for anyone interested in the best in the business in my opinion.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/may/21/jurgen-klopp-borussia-dortmund-champions-league

FFS are we going to have to put up with this pseudo panicking every time a manager of a football club leaves or gets the boot.....

Pull yourselves together.............

I heard Jonathon Pierce while commentating on Evertons game against Chelsea made a remark that I have not heard anyone expand on. He said that Michael Laudrups agent was at the game, I thought that was quite interesting. Now there might be loads of possible reasons he was at the game, but maybe BK was sounding him out about his client, he would definitely be my choice.

I'd rather the new guy does his talking on the pitch...

Brian, you can be brave if you want but I'm crawling under my dining table to hyperventilate.

Laudrup for Chelsea in case the special one wasn't available? I can't see Laudrup leaving his job just yet.

The worst news about Pulis is that Stoke may have a bigger transfer and wage budget than us. They might poach Neville from us as a manager!

Premier league safety has always been the managers brief. With Pulis probably guaranteeing that !? It's going to be Pulis, isn't it?

He needs to do the talking on the pitch and bigging us up off it. The whole mentality of the club has to change now. We don't want to be also rans any more. WE need to project an image of the club that will get it noticed for all the right reasons. The person who does this most is the manager. Just listen to brendan rogers, barely been in the job a year and alreasy he's talking liverpool up, talking about a top 4 shot next season. Building a better team....christ I laugh at him but the profile of liverpool is better because he's projecting a positive image. saying all the right things. Bringing a knife to a gunfight is talking shite. I've had enough of the were just little old Everton, "fucking plucky everton" how fucking dare they. There's the perception of the club that the previous manager and our chairman have instilled. The new manager has to instill the message of being a winner and changing the perception of plucky little everton in the media to here's Everton, genuine candidates under (enter new mangers name here) for this season. No more fighting above our weight. Wew are one of the most successful and biggest clubs in England. Lets start fucking acting like it.

Unfortunately John words are cheap. .... all the sentiment in the world is meaningless unless it is backed up by genuine ability, funding and a plan to deliver. Hopefully our new manager can extract more from the players he has inherited than Moyes otherwise even the finest churchillian speech will mean nothing.

John Hughes (752) and article. Spoken like a TRUE BLUE. If BK and the board of faceless, chinless wonders had any idea of how to behave, they should read your article. They should note that the club motto means "only the best is good enough" and not "only fools and horses".

Tom I totally agree with you. This is why at the bottom of the post I put it has to be delivered by a winner. Who that is I don’t know, I really don’t even know who I want to do it, I know who I don’t want to do it though. The OP and the “rant” above are born out of frustration that I’ve had building up for a long time. I grew up in a time when we won our first European trophy, two league titles and FA Cup all in a very short time period, my dad and uncles continually talk about the holy trinity, the team of 63 & 66 etc and the great players we have had. IMO the new manager has not only got to better Moyes in finishes and trophies, Christ one would do that but he also has to change the image of the club. Moyes created the image and in the early days of his reign it was probably right but he just didn’t change the perception in the media, we were and are little Everton. We are anything but little. This perception carried through the media has an affect on lots of things. Does a player want to go to little Everton who has a little ambition but will fight till the end or do they want to go to Massive spurs who will surely be challenging for the league title next season after just mission out on champions league places this year…..I know where I’d be wanting to go….however spurs are not bigger than Everton. Never have been and never will be. But just look at the perception spurs portay in the media. The think big, act big and are treated as big. More of this need to come from our club. The manager has a high profile, talks about the champions league and says all the right things about winning and portraying a winning mentality around the club. Spurs have a better image than Everton. They are not bigger they just think they are and act like they are. This is why the new manager has to change the perception of the club, a rousing first day speech followed by some good backing and some good signings and hopefully the performances on the pitch to back up what he says will start that process. He then needs the chairman and the board to follow suit. Not easy task but the change in perception has to start in his very first interview.
How good would it be to hear a manager talk about winning, about improving about us being a big club? I’m a romantic I know but plucky little Everton just doesn’t do it for me because we are so much better and bigger than that.

Fear not lads Pulis is available and ready to make the next step up. In all seriousness though how is Rafa 5/2 to be thier next manager and DI Matteo is close as well yet the best we can attract are the likes of Stubbs, Weir, Mckay and Lennon.

There is one ex-Everton player who has managed at a lower level and no-one has yet mentioned for the Vacanejob. Paul Gascoigne is sober and available. [Well... plenty of others are playing silly Buggers...]

WHY are people mentioning Laudrup, FFS? It's so annoying. Laudrup has a £10 mill buyout clause in his contract — we can't afford £10 quid. Stop the Fantasy Football Manager and wake up!

It's going to be an internal appointment. It's doing my nut in reading some of the dumb shit fans actually think can happen. Accept what we are under BK and that is also-rans.There will be NO big name or flashy foreign coach coming in and that's a fact..

Just heard a rumour Martinez or Neville to Stoke

Problem is John, the more you talk something up the more stupid you look when it doesn't happen. Moyes still gets criticised for his 'best team since i've been here' quote just because they didn't have their best season after he said it, why make it worse by making promises that would be virtually impossible to keep?

Rodgers isn't talking Liverpool up because he's genuinely excited, he's talking them up because he knows that he's spent £50m so far and wants to spend another £50m this summer and his chairman isn't going to sanction that if he says he's hoping to finish 6th. Liverpool managers don't have much choice, they have to be bullish because of the budget they have, there's no excuse for them failing. Anyone remember Benitez saying he 'guaranteed' Liverpool would finish top 4? For the last 5-6 games of that season the press kept asking him if he still guaranteed it, cranking up more and more pressure on him. They missed out on 4th and he got the chop, so his soundbite backfired spectacularly - and his record says he's a 'winner', whatever one of those is.

The fact is, we could have Alex Ferguson/Pep Guardiola/Jose Mourinho or whoever telling the whole world how we're the greatest side ever to play the game but it wouldn't make Anichebe a better finisher or stop Phil Neville from giving the ball away.

What about the man from West Brom ?

James Martin, spot on.. I was amazed the other year when they signed Crouch, Palacios etc. The club managing to attract these players sent a message of intent. Their board are ambitious, maybe this is reflected by the names their being linked with.
The irony is, the smaller teams who manage to stay in this league always quote in sound bites how "We see what Moyes has done with a limited budget and small squad so we know it's achievable".
Maybe Pulis has left by mutual consent as his ambitions don't match the boards?.
For a decade now the powers at Goodison have been happy to project an image of the underdog, no one outside the Fans expect us to achieve anymore. First and foremost this image must change. As John mentioned in his second post, the media percieve THFC to be a massive, successful London club.
I believe the reason players like Fellaini, Baines, Cahill, Jagielka have remained here is they come through the door and realise how big we actually are.

James Martin, spot on.. I was amazed the other year when they signed Crouch, Palacios etc. The club managing to attract these players sent a message of intent. Their board are ambitious, maybe this is reflected by the names their being linked with.
The irony is, the smaller teams who manage to stay in this league always quote in sound bites how "We see what Moyes has done with a limited budget and small squad so we know it's achievable".
Maybe Pulis has left by mutual consent as his ambitions don't match the boards?.
For a decade now the powers at Goodison have been happy to project an image of the underdog, no one outside the Fans expect us to achieve anymore. First and foremost this image must change. As John mentioned in his second post, the media percieve THFC to be a massive, successful London club.
I believe the reason players like Fellaini, Baines, Cahill, Jagielka have remained here is they come through the door and realise how big we actually are.

I was watching Steve Clarke on the sideline in their 5-5 draw on Sunday and I don't think he was too happy with MUFC taking the 'Michael' out of them, he had a quiet word in a players ear and they managed to get a draw and very nearly won it. I think he would be a good choice because he wouldn't need a massive budget. He's not Mr. personality but I think with our current squad he would preserve the good aspects and hopefully enhance our strike-force and therefore not as big a gamble as some others being touted.
He also has a point to prove against our neighbours and I don't think he's overfond of the devils of Manchester

Just heard a rumour that Peter Reid has been interviewed for the job.

Just spoken to Bill ... on the strength of Anichebe at CM and the wiping of the debt with the trophies it brings I start next week.

Some of you buggers had better shape up - no more Mr Nice guy I'm telling ya!

John Hughes - the difference is Spurs are in London and have a wealthy owner and have lots of corporate boxes.

And the last manager did a rousing speech on day 1 - this is the people's club, the people of Merseyside are mainly Blues. That got everybody up. The guy knew how to motivate us and stick it up the Norwegians.

But back to the Spurs bit - they are in London. Average house price in London - £500k, average price on Merseyside - £140k. You have to have money to live in London. Ticket prices at Spurs average at £62 for the best seat - at Everton £39. Take that over 19 games and 35,000 people and that is £15,000,000.

You try to get the fans at GP to pay £62 per match (cue - ". . ..and watch that dross we have had to suffer over the last 11 years with Moyes") and it won't happen. Why? Because average salary in London is £37,500 and on Merseyside £25,000.

Plus Levy invests in the club - Earl and Woods do not. And don't expect Bill to invest, he does not have the money, it is Woods and Earl who have the long pockets and short arms.

Plus there are loads of bankers on bonuses in London spending Saturday's at the lane drinking Champagne and doing the corporate entertaining bit in the private boxes. Don't happen on Merseyside.

Spurs have never been a bigger club than us (last league title 61, only 2 in the history, last in Div 2 in 1978) but as time goes on they will be know as we must remember football only started in 1992. And I did cheer when Arsenal clinched 4th ahead of them - another chance they will blow it and Levy get bored.

We won't get a 'winner'. Look at the clown choosing the new manager, a bloke who has let this club down time and time again.

Bill Kenwright always puts his own interests ahead of those of the club. He will select someone who suits Bill Kenwright rather than someone who will take us forward.

Phil, you've just proved my point with the perception of Everton. to be honest the price of a pint of milk in walton compared to that in tottenham court road is nothing to do with perceprtion and image. Granted Levy as you quite rightly say invests in his team. That's a difference. You do not need money to change perception. You need a winning mentality. You also need to win of course but you have to project the image of being a winner to attract more winners. Throwing the towel in cos your house in worth only a 5th of one in london is a cop out. You win, you attract winners, the more winners you have the more you win. The more you win the more champagne you sell in the lounges on match day. Big firms with corporate hospitality expenses want to be associated with winners. Have you been to old trafford? stuck in a shitty part of manchester. Associated with the biggest firms in the world, Why, because they're manchester utd? no because they win. Think of chelsea too, ok a nicer part of London and you do have to be rich but they attract more corporate sponsorship because they win and have a winning image. If they were in the championship would they still get the money from sponsorship and hospitality, no I don't think they would and they are located in the poshest part of london are they not? Obviously I don't agree with you but can you see where I am coming from with the change in mentality bit?

Why do you summise Everton has a `losing` mentality? Our record under David Moyes was excellent. Teams can`t just `think themselves` above the likes of the Mancs and Chelsea.You have to be able to afford the quality of players to out perform them! The `right` mentality will only count for so much,you know.

John, that was a meaningful article and written from the heart. It was an attempt to try to get out there the feelings that many of us Evertonians have but which we rarely see reflected in what our Chairman says. Probably a result of his overtly nostalgic view of the club.

When I look the increase in the number of articles and posts over the past few weeks (obviously triggered by our managerial crisis) I can't help feeling that the biggest problem we face is that we seem, for the most part, to be pissing in the wind! Who other than ordinary fellow supporters is listening?

Many commercial organisations pay varying degrees of lip service to public opinion/ customer feedback etc. But football clubs and Everton Football Club in particular pay absolutely no attention whilst trying to give the opposite impression.

The new Manager business is rolling on and no doubt it won't be too long before we celebrate or all hell breaks loose. I email Sky Sports this morning asking them to make a story of the ToffeeWeb poll which indicated the exact opposite of what they were saying on the website yesterday that there was " a groundswell of opinion that the new manager should be an internal appointment". One can only speculate where this bit of propaganda came from So for the moment my wish is how, for the future, can we establish a line of communication with the club and/or the media which gifts our voice aired.. Ok we know can't force our view on the club but, for instance, is Kenwright aware of how 11,000 suporters voted in the ToffeeWeb poll? If he isn't aware that's in itself is a tragedy!

In general terms Tofeeweb makes a great outlet for the views of Evertonians on a daily basis. People enjoy making their contributions; many of which are amusing and make good reading. But at key times - of which the appointment of a new manager is probably the most important - how to we get the fact that a massive number off supporters have expressed their view which, supposedly, our Chairman was interested to hear!

It seem to me that one of the most important thing we need to achieve as supporters at times such as this is to ensure those views (and there is probably no better way of getting a collective Evertonians' view than through a ToffeeWeb poll) get a proper public airing.

The aim must be to ensure that it would be impossible for Bill Kenwright to make a decision without it being publicly understood that when he took his decision he couldn't fail to have been aware of our views!

Gavin #832 - I can really see Martinez at Stoke, more so than us.

I expect their fans are desperate to see some decent football played and I imagine Martinezs reputation for building the foundations at Swansea will also appeal to them.

He'll also get more money to spend at Stoke, and be able to retain players more, have compete control and probably be under less pressure than with us so I can see it being attractive to him too.

All of the reasons above should make him attractive to us too, at the end of the day my gut feeling is the Everton jobs too big for him at the moment, whereas Stoke might be just right.

delighted to see Pereira's odds being clipped

John, you need to send your comments direct to the club, Bill must, somehow read your report.

You have summarised what every true blue wants, if Bill says he will listen to the fans, lets see what he delivers

Original post excellent!
Tom #710 even better!

The bookies are slashing the odds on a different candidate every day. Klinsmann one day, Pereira the next. It means nothing. It's a sly way to make the punters believe that the bookies know something and go and lump some money on.

Good post John. I have forwarded it to the backroom staff for one of them to start practising.

You are absolutely correct Jamie, after all their job is to make money, if they didn't there would be no betting companies.

Pereira got my vote on the poll. Will be happy if the rumours prove to be true. Will be even happier if he brings Jackson Martinez or Rodriguez with him.

What's all this about bilbo having a meeting with pereira in London. It was on a website which I couldn't open.

End game

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/may/21/phil-neville-everton-manager

Lets hope he can't turn down Stoke. Surely BK won't be stupid enough to risk everything. If it goes pear shaped he will be marched to the stake.

Colin #063 - this is a Google translation of the Portuguese website Maisfutebol:

Vitor Pereira: renovation in sight, although meetings in England
Coach started Monday outside the country listening to proposals; scenario is stronger, however, continuity in Porto, can ensure Maisfutebol.

Vítor Pereira's successor will most probably himself. Information collected and confirmed by Maisfutebol from various sources point to approach positions between FC Porto and coach. The contract extension is on the table. Anyway, great job and almost unblemished record [at least in the League] coach the past two seasons, making it a desirable coach and market some of the most important countries the Old Continent. The Maisfutebol may advance, moreover, that Vítor Pereira started Monday outside the country to listen to what leaders of both clubs had to submit. Clubs are British and the first half of the Premier League table. Vítor Pereira landed on Tuesday morning at Lisbon Portela, from Heathrow (London) and immediately caught a plane to the city of Porto. Around 12 o'clock was already in the Dragon Box, which unfolded Media Open Day With the conquest of tricampeonato, Vítor Pereira decisively strengthened its position within the FC Porto. Gained thereby negotiating strength. Conversations with leaders FC Porto will spend the duration of the new contract, the salary amount and the influence that coach may have in relation to the management and definition of the next breeding stock. If you stay at FC Porto, Vitor Pereira will have more leeway and freedom to enter fields that until now you were sealed. Ball passed the SAD FC Porto to Vítor Pereira. The possibilities that have overseas with England to the head, have further strengthened our position in this round of talks.

Make of that what you will

Guardian reporting Neville has been interviewed already and it sounds like he is under serious consideration.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/may/21/phil-neville-everton-manager

Does it say he has been interviewed or just that he has let it be known that he would like the job? I thought I read the latter. Scary stuff if true, not saying he won't make a good manager one day but it is a little too soon for him to be taking charge of Everton FC so early in his presently non-existent managerial career.

I posted this on another thread yesterday morning and seems it was more pertinent to PN than I originally thought Mondya night's LMA awaards as reported in the Mail today.

Ferguson also supplied advice to retiring players and insisted they had to earn their chance in the top flight by first working in the lower leagues. ‘Prepare to be a manager,’ he said. ‘It’s no use finishing one day and being a manager the next.

‘I’m dead against fast-tracking managers in the game. You’re not doing yourselves any favours. Prepare, get your badges, work for years at lower levels and earn the right to be a manager.’

It could be that Pulis has 'left' Stoke. Because their Board Has Nouse, Has Ambition and they can see that Pulis has consolidated them, but can't take them much further.

Also that they Have some Money and are Willing to Invest to go to the next level.

Yes there is a risk that they might do a Leeds, that they might get it wrong and even go down. But It maybe that they also think if you don't buy a ticket you won't win the raffle.

*Bill pats pockets to raffle ticket seller.

"Sorry, mate, got no cash on me, all plastic now innit," he says ruefully.

Yeah it is Bill... all plastic.

Plastic Evertonian, plastic Chairman of a plastic Board who mouths plastic soundbite promises.

Can't wait for the the new Plastic Manager.

Totally agree Patrick any upcoming manager needs to earn the right to become Everton manager not just walk into the position following the end of their playing career. They may be in the same sport but a players job is very different to a managers job, just take a look at all the good players that have never become successful managers. I hope and pray that Bill is not thinking that Neville did reasonably well as a player and was under Moyes so he should be perfect.

Blimey in the express he says this:-

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/401531/Phil-Neville-I-want-to-be-a-manager-and-Everton-would-be-a-good-place-to-start?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-football-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Football+Feed%29

He calls Everton a good place to start!!! Get out of town Pip, right now! Managing a club of this stature is bloody honour not a good place to start. That's done it for me, I don't want any internal good boy managing this club.

Jackie - did you read the article or just the title? I'm pretty sure Pip didn't say the "good place to start" bit.

If he did then I fully agree with what you say. But I don't think he did.

When my dad first took me to watch our home games, I was 6 years old. We stood in the same place every week and a guy behind us shouted out the same phrase at least 20 times a game: 'Get a grip, Everton'. And it's about time we did!

As well as Moyes did over 11 years, I found that I wasn't as gutted as I'd expected to be when he finally announced he was leaving. Yes, he's done a great job with no money to spend but I also agree that it's time for him to move on and what a challenge he has ahead at Man Utd. Good luck to him.

As far as his replacement goes, if it has to be an old boy, you'd have to think that Big Dunc would have the balls to expect big things as per John's comments wouldn't you? Not that I think he should be our next manager any more than I think Phil Neville deserves the honour. If we'd managed to secure the move to a new ground a couple of years ago we'd be attracting bigger name managers than we are now. We needed to get a grip then but we've slipped further and further behind the teams with owners who have money.

John is right: let's hope we can now attract an ambitious, big-thinking owner who can attract and ambitious, big-thinking manager who'll see our past glory as exactly that, something in our history that we're on the verge of repeating and have every right to expect. Top 6 isn't good enough for us any more. Get a grip, Everton.

Jamie looks like you are right, hate the way the papers do that, putting his name before a headline making it look as if he did. I mean he kind of does say it but a little more toned down, still he should recognise he is not ready to manage a club of Everton's stature yet, he needs to prove himself elsewhere.

My Letter to Jose Mourino:

Jose, you have won every Cup and Championship possible over the years. Surely money is not your only aim in life now. Come to Everton and get back to do what you did before you had millions to spend.

We have a wonderful group of talented players, and the best supporters in the land. What a challenge for you — are you up for it? Are you as good as you think you are?

I take it if there is no announcement by the end of this week, we are waiting to see if Matinez will take the job sometime next week?

If we are making an internal appointment, you would have thought it will have been done and dusted by now, and made official by Friday.

Pereira is said to have held meetings in London yesterday, would be more than happy to see this guy given a chance, anyone who get the better of that Benfica side must know how to send a team out to play.

Well, BK will not want Mr Jonathan Foreigner at our club. After all, we are an industrial, hard working football club according to him. Anyway, Mr Billy wants to continue in the David Moyes tradition doesn't he?
Which means its in house or Mackay.

Bookies are all over Vitor Pereira

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/everton/next-permanent-manager

Signed a 2 year deal already, apparently. Reports out of Portugal confirm it.

Kevin Tully, I've seen Porto play a few times this season and their football is f***ing amazing. Quick, slick and lethal. I can't wait if this is true.

James how reliable are these reports coming out of Portugal?

No idea how reliable, but I'm clinging to everything that involves the names Pereira & Klinsmann!

I think the only way we'll here a speech like that is if they appoint either Paolo Di Canio or Barack Obama

Tony Marsh #822
My thoughts exactly.

As for all the speculation regarding top managers, it's just not going to happen.

Resign yourselves to the internal appointment option.

I really hope I am wrong, but I fear the worst.