Kenwright's Decision?

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Many of the recent submissions and comments have referred to the ability of Bill Kenwright to correctly identify, approach, interview and ultimately appoint the correct person to manage and coach at Everton Football Club for the next several years.

Kenwright has, famously, declared himself to be "only the chairman" and unacquainted with the inner workings of the world-renowned institution under his purported control.

There are several contributors to this site who clearly have a great knowledge of UK Company Law - I have none.

Kenwright owns 25.84% of the shareholding in Everton. Is he therefore entitled to unilaterally make this appointment without the knowledge, input, and advice of his fellow shareholders and directors?

Woods and Earl both have large stakes in Everton yet are conspicuously silent, as always. If both of these men trust Kenwright with their shareholdings, we need to be seriously concerned, not necessarily about their judgement, but the entire future of EFC.


Brian Hill, Cape Town, RSA     Posted 23/05/2013 at 14:19:23

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Patrick Murphy
957 Posted 23/05/2013 at 16:22:14
That's certainly the way it plays out. Has there ever been a board of directors so seemingly dis-interested in the business that they have a large number of shares in? Bill Kenwright may have his heart in the right place and be the most ardent Evertonian on the planet, but I wouldn't allow him to run an ice-cream van never mind a business that has millions of pounds at stake.

It does make you wonder what goes on behind the scenes at Goodison, one director is never seen and the other never speaks, while BK takes all the flak. The three wise football monkeys in charge of Everton FC see no football, speak no football hear no football, still we just carry on watching them from the outside praying to god that they know what they are doing, although their motives remain shrouded in mystery.
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Richard Dodd
964 Posted 23/05/2013 at 16:45:40
I guess the Board just assume BK will make all the decisions.I suspect that `legally` it would be said that they delegated him to do so.
Chris Keightley
967 Posted 23/05/2013 at 16:48:58
Possibly the least transparent board of all time? - If it wasn't for the fact I was born a blue I would have happily supported any other team had I known the extent to which us supporters suffer through silence - its now been over two weeks since the announcement of Moyes departing still we have no Manager in place, the players will be taking there holidays soon, and everything is up in the air - poor management, poor direction, embarrassing.
Gavin Ramejkis
979 Posted 23/05/2013 at 17:22:38
Good luck with Earl, he only turns up every few years but I heard he manages to make the Spurs away game. Either way he's only a front for our tax dodging friend of the club.

Don't ask Kenshite he's "only the Chairman" you know, I wouldn't trust him to look after artificial plants.

Richard Dodd
983 Posted 23/05/2013 at 17:36:12
Just read that Earl was in London initiating a Court Action against Newcastle chairman Mike Ashley`s Sports Direct.A fall out over sale of Boxing Brands apparenly. Everton didn`t get a mention!
Gavin Ramejkis
984 Posted 23/05/2013 at 17:40:35
Doddy as soon as Desperation Kirkby was put out of its misery so was Earl and Green's interest in Everton
Ross Edwards
024 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:14:49
I can't believe that we are relying on this clown to pick our manager. He can't even pick his nose.
Ged Simpson
026 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:16:55
If the others have no interest - at least BK has. He may not be the best but I think there are no others with much interest. And the one I think drserves the most criticism is Lord Granchester. Copped a load of dosh by inheritance and doing nothing for us it seems.
Ste Traverse
028 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:18:39
Frightening thought that the bloke who has let the club down time and again,and has told numerous lies over the years, gets to choose our next manager.

Scary.

James Marshall
029 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:22:27
Businessmen with no thought for the backbone of the club - the supporters.

I guess in a way you have to admire their stoic standpoint. By not getting involved, they (presumably) make some money for doing absolutely nothing apart from maybe one or two meetings a year.

Jeremy Benson
035 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:18:13
Ross,

he's a self-made millionaire. He's a theatre mogul, celebrity actor, has dated several famous women, and is Chairman of EFC,

If I was him, I wouldn't be too fussed about what you think...

Karl Masters
036 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:35:35
Someone get Jeremy a saucer of milk....
Ross Edwards
037 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:34:20
Really, then he takes your opinion as God's word then Jeremy? What an obnoxious comment to make. BK doesn't care what anyone thinks mate.
Paul Andrews
040 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:45:35
Jeremy,

You appear to be a fan of Bill's?

Andy Crooks
043 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:49:38
Jeremy, he is all of those but I suspect he cares deeply about what we think. Actors want to be loved and even a ham like Bill is the same. That is why he will tell us exactly what we want to hear and in his perfect luvvy world he thinks we will believe it
Phil McKeown
046 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:55:57
rumours have it that billy liar is in fact sir phillip greens puppet
Mark Dunford
051 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:53:51
Kenwright made one appointment which worked out well enough for Man Utd to offer the manager his next job. No matter what you think of him, this is an inescapable fact which suggests his judgement was sound on an earlier key moment. He seems to be taking his time and drawing on advice as there isn't a reason to rush like last time when we were on the verge of relegation. No one is perfect and every high profile job attracts critics. it should be said Kenwrightt and the Board appear to be playing this well at the moment. No doubt we'll all have a view when the decision is taken and an appointment made. My hope is that people will have the sense to back the new manager.

To answer the question - it is a decision which can be made as the Board sees fit so it can be taken by all or none of them if they wanted to pass it to CEO. No prescribed way to do this.

Mark Dunford
052 Posted 23/05/2013 at 20:53:51
Kenwright made one appointment which worked out well enough for Man Utd to offer the manager his next job. No matter what you think of him, this is an inescapable fact which suggests his judgement was sound on an earlier key moment. He seems to be taking his time and drawing on advice as there isn't a reason to rush like last time when we were on the verge of relegation. No one is perfect and every high profile job attracts critics. it should be said Kenwrightt and the Board appear to be playing this well at the moment. No doubt we'll all have a view when the decision is taken and an appointment made. My hope is that people will have the sense to back the new manager.

To answer the question - it is a decision which can be made as the Board sees fit so it can be taken by all or none of them if they wanted to pass it to CEO. No prescribed way to do this.

Ian Hollingworth
065 Posted 23/05/2013 at 21:37:29
Mark it is widely acknowledged that Walter Smith recommended Moyes to BK
I guess he knew little about him at that time and took a calculated risk that turned out great for him as Moyes efforts have shielded this board
Patrick Murphy
068 Posted 23/05/2013 at 21:32:35
Everybody backed Moyes for a good number of years and it's only in the last 3 or 4 that the grumbling became a lot louder. If you mean that the next guy in the hot seat should get 11 years without picking up a win at the usual suspects or not winning a trophy, I don't think that would be possible again.

The new manager whoever that may be will be fully supported by all right minded Evertonians because once he is chosen we have no choice but to give him our best and to undermine him would be silly and pointless, likewise if those who thought that DM was the best thing since sliced bread should think about constantly reminding us of how he would have had more points or a better position in the table or he would have bought or sold this or that player it really is a futile past-time and will not enhance our performances on the pitch, let's all move on and hope the new bloke is a lucky as well as a good manager.


Kevin Tully
069 Posted 23/05/2013 at 21:38:52
Brian - O.P.

The appointment of a new manager will be no different from signing any player. Going by past experience, the other board members have given Kenwright carte balnche on all footballing matters.

Ross Edwards
070 Posted 23/05/2013 at 21:46:38
Actually Mark, Gary Megson would have been appointed, if it wasn't for Wally dropping a hint...
Brendan McLaughlin
072 Posted 23/05/2013 at 21:46:38
Ian #065
That Smith recommended Moyes story...urban myth
Gavin Ramejkis
086 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:03:05
Ged why should Grantchester do anything with his money? He's just a wealthy shareholder, he's not a board member and the matriarch of the Granchester family has advised him not to waste a penny whilst the charlatan is in charge.

If you had massive wealth and were a shareholder but not board member would you seriously give your money to this lot?

Gavin Ramejkis
091 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:06:02
Brendan hope you are not wearing a hat on your urban myth shite - straight from Gollum's own lips - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22484074
Gavin Ramejkis
092 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:10:18
Want some salt and vinegar or sauce for that hat Brendan?

"Walter Smith [Moyes' predecessor] recommended me for the job and if there's anything I can do to help Bill Kenwright and Everton then that's what I'll do."

Brendan McLaughlin
096 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:15:16
Gavin #092
Moyes also said there was no contact with Manure until a few days before the story broke...so do you believe that?
Gavin Ramejkis
104 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:29:21
So Brendan what's Moyes' incentive to lie about Smith recommending him its not as if he was prompted in the interview to mention it, whereas the £2.3Bn publicly listed company that is Man Utd honestly approached and appointed a new manager to replace the most successful manager in British Football history in just 2 days - what to buy some magic beans?
Chris Matheson
107 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:22:56
There is clearly a problem of corporate governance at Everton.

We have four directors, I believe. Bill is one. His mate Jon Woods is another, but he seems very much a silent partner: like Kenwright he has not, as I can see, invested any money in the business, he has only bought shares from someone else and it is not clear what his responsibilities are. Or indeed what contribution he makes. Maybe I am being unfair but the evidence is just not there at the moment.

We also have Robert Earl. I understand that he id British but made his money from brands in the USA. My suspicion echoes Gav Ram's at 984: Earl's interest in Everton was in the Destination Kirkby project, and it is unclear as to when he last attended a match, ket alone a Board meeting.

The there is "Sir" Philip Carter. Now in his 80s, I suspect that he was brought back again in order to make board meetings at Everton quorate. If only two directors are present from the three then it doesn't look very good and may be contrary to company rules.

There is a paucity of experience on the Everton board if only because there are so few directors. I don't think Robert Elstone is a director. That idea about bringing in external business talent and developing an advisory board sounds ever more attractive by the minute,

Brendan McLaughlin
110 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:31:54
Gavin #104
To justify his involvement in appointing his successor? D'ya want that salt, vinegar & sauce back?
Barry Rathbone
113 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:40:05
Brendan - stop digging.

I spoke to Walter Smith personally he recommended Moyes to Kenwright - Bill didn't know who he was!

Dave Lynch
114 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:32:51
Fuck Gavs magic beans Brendan.

I've got a goose that lays golden eggs, you can have it for a tenner.

Brendan McLaughlin
118 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:45:19
Barry #113
I don't doubt that you spoke to Smith but Walter perpetuating that particular urban myth...pretty predictable I'd have thought
Simon Harris
121 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:53:03
Barry, stop teasing - I actually believed you there for a moment.
Patrick Murphy
122 Posted 23/05/2013 at 22:58:05
I'm pretty sure that SAF had DM in his sights circa 2002 and Walter and Archie had pretty close ties with SAF so it would be pretty hard to think that Walter wasn't involved at some point, in fact BK admits that he first met DM in the infamous meeting where Bill's other half, gave her nod of approval.
Matt Traynor
124 Posted 23/05/2013 at 23:09:36
Patrick #122, also Walter Smith spent 12-18 months as assistant to Fergie at Man U after Carlos Queiroz took the Madrid job.
Brendan McLaughlin
125 Posted 23/05/2013 at 23:07:16
Strange isn't it. We condemn Blue Bill almost as the anti-Christ yet when it suits his words are gospel...
Brendan McLaughlin
149 Posted 23/05/2013 at 23:58:45
Well Dave #114
I've just told Gavin where to stick his magic beans & you've come along with a whole goose...I hope the fact that it's golden makes it easier
Joe Green
170 Posted 24/05/2013 at 02:57:39
Possibly off topic a bit, but while waiting for news of EFC's next manager, can we speculate what was, or will be, in it for Everton to playout the charade that DM was interviewed and signed-up within two days for MUFC job? Oh and DM just happened to be out of contract.

I can see all the benefits from MUFC's point of view. But what are EFC getting out of it? Debt write offs? We have done a lot of business with MU over DM years (Rooney, Neville, Howard, Gibson - did I miss some? Did we do more business with anyone else?).

Also for those pointing out the links between Smith, Moyes and Ferguson, well there is a Premier League managers school seminar at Largs each year ... the Scottish, particularly Glasgwegian, managers know each other very well..

Gavin Ramejkis
178 Posted 24/05/2013 at 06:51:56
First rule of holes Brendan - stop digging, swallow it and realise you were talking out of your hoop and accept defeat.
Eugene Ruane
182 Posted 24/05/2013 at 07:27:31
I think we're in VERY safe hands and it's obvious that when it comes to appointing a new manager, Everton FC have a system in place that takes into consideration the abilities of each candidate and makes a considered decision based on them. To read some posts, you'd think the decision was being left to some arl bird who'd had too much wine.

Daily Mirror 2012 - "Moyes celebrates 10 years at Everton and claims: I wouldn't be here but for Jenny Seagrove!" -

D'OH!!!

Ernie Baywood
186 Posted 24/05/2013 at 07:40:48
I find it hard to believe BK had never heard of Moyes. I'd heard of Moyes and fellow blues were talking about Moyes. All long before he eventually came in. BK may be a bumbling luvvy, but lets at least acknowledge that he appointed Moyes. Mind you, I would think it entirely appropriate that he got some sort of endorsement from people whose opinion he respected.
Colin Wainwright
187 Posted 24/05/2013 at 07:50:05
So, the person who deserves the most criticism, isn't even on the board. He deserves this criticism because he refuses to let the three musketeers use his family wealth to pay back dodgy tax haven loans and generally pull us out the same shit that they themselves placed us in.

Yeah Grantchester is a right bastard.

Fuckin' wake up!

Paul Andrews
188 Posted 24/05/2013 at 08:08:48
Colin Wainwright,

Perfectly put.

Eugene Ruane
189 Posted 24/05/2013 at 08:17:17
Ernie Baywood - "I find it hard to believe BK had never heard of Moyes. I'd heard of Moyes and fellow blues were talking about Moyes. All long before he eventually came in"

Sorry - "fellow blues were talking about Moyes. All long before he eventually came in"

Really?

I mean REALLY?

Seriously, WHAT fellow blues were talking about Moyes 'long before he eventually came in'?

And WHY would they be talking about Moyes 'long before he eventually came in'?

Sorry but that makes NO sense at all.

I think for 99% of Evertonians, the first time they heard the name David Moyes, the response would have been 'Who the fuck is he?'

Brian Hill
190 Posted 24/05/2013 at 08:15:48
If I owned 23% of EFC, what would be my reasons for purchasing those shares in the first place? For a businessman such as Robert Earl, the only possible desire is to achieve a large return.

He is not an infinitely wealthy oil Sheikh, to whom money is like sand; no, he is a ruthless investor whose only motivation is personal profit.

So, why Everton? Why the silence? This man must believe, with a high degree of certainty, that his purchase of Everton shares will produce a very significant dividend for him within a reasonable time frame.

Furthermore, he must believe that such a dividend will accrue without any personal input from him to the governance of the Club. What does he know that we do not about the future of EFC?

I am very, very concerned.

Ged Simpson
193 Posted 24/05/2013 at 08:41:28
Colin W (187) - fair enough point re Granchester and my post was based on me no knowing his place at Everton. Disgraceful.

But your last line ? Chill out. It wasn't designed to make you burst a blood vessel.

Richard Dodd
194 Posted 24/05/2013 at 08:50:58
Eugene: Re your post mentioning Jenny Seagrove-she may still be pulling BK`s whatsit! A number of workmates have told me she was on a Radio 2 show on Wednesday (I think it was Chris Evans)and was asked if she knew who was to be Everton`s new manager.She is alleged to have said, `Yes,but I couldn`t possibly tell you!`
Looks like the decision is made (Stubbs?) and we are still in safe hands!
Colin Wainwright
195 Posted 24/05/2013 at 08:52:45
Ok Ged. Tbh it was two blood vessels.

Brian (190), you make a really good point regarding the reasoning behind Earls purchase of shares. I know, with this statement, i'll be up there with the "9-11 was a set up" conspiracy theorists but, maybe, just maybe, Earl didn't buy his shares. Or maybe, the BVI based mogul had "other" reasons to buy shares in Everton. The truth is out there mate.

I know. Mental eh?

Mick Fleming
196 Posted 24/05/2013 at 08:27:13
Back to Kenwrights decision. I understand that the shite new badge will adorn our new kit, despite the view of many that it is indeed a shite new badge. Kenwright said recently that he would listen to the fans regarding the next management appointment, the view of the majority on here is for someone external (you've seen the names). Some people who love and support him will probably say that he didnt actualy say that though. So, based upon factual evidence (lies and deceipt for those confused or can't accept facts) I would like to christen Kenwrights decision style and approach as 'Family Fortunes' ie he says x and our survey says y then cue that annoying sound (you know the sound similar to that made by the character called Ann off Little Britian in one of her sketches only louder!).

In conclusion, and based upon Bill Kenwrights deision making history to date, what he does next has a huge bearing on what I as a lifelong blue do next. Do I or don't I renew 3 season tickets and buy merchandise next year, it pains me to state on here that so far the answer to that question is NO. As a supporter I've been treated like shite too many times by this unamitious autocratic lying sod.

Brendan McLaughlin
197 Posted 24/05/2013 at 08:58:03
Sorry boys I can't resist...to the tune of "We Didn't Start The Fire" (Billy Joel)

"Jenny Seagrave
Blue Bill
Wally Smith
Jack & Jill
Kendall, Granchester,
Long term planning...Manchester

Who did decide to hire...."

Chris Leyland
203 Posted 24/05/2013 at 09:14:32
To Sum up; I think that it is safe to assume that Walter Smith recommended Moyes to Kenwright but that Kenwright then actually interviewed and appointed him or are people suggesting that Smith recommended Moyes and the next thing you know there Moyes was sitting in the manager's office without actually having to go through any sort of further selection process?

So, however begrudgingly, I think we do need to give Kenwright a modicum of credit for appointing Moyes (or not if you never actually rated Moyes in which case Kenwright must take the blame).

Also, isn't Kenwright previously taking advice from Smith on who should have been manager and supposedly now taking advice from Moyes on our next manager in a way what we'd want? i.e. taking advice from someone inside the game rather than choosing all by himself or taking advice from other directors Earl and Woods? Isn't it in a away akin to the demands of the Blue Union, with respect to selling the club; that we bring in people more qualified to sell than Kenwright himself?

We could debate whether Smith and Moyes are the people you'd want to consult on selecting managers but I'd rather he took advice from someone like them then him doing it all by himself or with the invisible men of the board.

Ernie Baywood
236 Posted 24/05/2013 at 10:42:08
Eugene, sorry to disappoint you but, yes, he was being talked about. It wouldn't have been in here so I can't really prove it. It was just pub talk.

Moyes had quite a reputation for his, ahem, philosophies on football. I recall there was one gent who was besotted with him. Moyes had given an interview on his training methods at PNE and was considered pretty forward thinking.

Ernie Baywood
239 Posted 24/05/2013 at 10:56:09
And Eugene, were you not talking about replacements for Smith before he went? We did it for Moyes on here for about 4 years!
Peter Bell
247 Posted 24/05/2013 at 10:52:36
Matt Traynor, you are spot on, can no one else smell the coffee.
SAF offers Moyes assistant Managers job when at Preston.
Moyes says no, wants to be a manager in his own right.
Kenwright sacks Smith who then recommends Moyes as Manager.
Smith uses severance pay to buy shares in stretford manegement agency.
SAF gives Walter Smith a short term coaching job as Rooneys parents think the world of him.
Moyes falls out with Rooney, goes to Man United for a pittance.
Smith leaves Man United, mission accomplished.
Everton get Man Utd cast offs every August transfer window when Rooney payment is due ( Neville, Howard, Saha, Gibson )
Moyes eventually joins the club he always dreamed of managing.
Kev Johnson
305 Posted 24/05/2013 at 13:48:48
Unexpectedly, I find myself envying Stoke at the moment. They let Pulis go, swiftly identify Hughes as the man they want and contact him to arrange an interview. In the immortal words of Mr Punch: "That's the way to do it!"
Tony Sullivan
314 Posted 24/05/2013 at 14:04:37
To all on here who keep saying Kenwright has said he will listen to the fans regarding Moyes replacement.
He may well have said this, but did anyone hear him say he would take any notice of what they may say?
Mike Jones
317 Posted 24/05/2013 at 14:15:42
Not wanting to comment directly about the merits of the individual Eugene and Ernie are having discussion about, but just an observation on a statement Eugene makes in the last paragraph at Post 189. Wouldn't anyone hearing or seeing a name given to them or which they come across for the first time reasonably ask 'who's (s)he?
Eugene Ruane
416 Posted 24/05/2013 at 17:46:53
Mike (317) - "Wouldn't anyone hearing or seeing a name given to them or which they come across for the first time reasonably ask 'who's (s)he?"

You're quite right, good point.

Ken Buckley
432 Posted 24/05/2013 at 18:25:45
My man with his ear to the ground says announcement to be made first week of July.
Brian Hill
433 Posted 24/05/2013 at 18:23:28
Colin @195. Your conspiracy theory does, in my estimation, have some merit. Who, in their right mind, would spend millions of pounds to acquire a large stake in a world famous entity, and then effectively disappear?

Why does Robert Earl contribute nothing to the management and future direction of EFC? It is truly bizarre.

I'll come back to this thread later, I need some new tinfoil on my head...........

Al Reddish
435 Posted 24/05/2013 at 18:37:39
Ken, I hope your man is pissed then. July!!!!!!!!!! When everyone else has identified and bid for players. WE NEVER LEARN.
Patrick Murphy
436 Posted 24/05/2013 at 18:39:50
If it's as late as July it will deffo be an internal appointment shiny new UEFA badge step up to the plate Mr Phil Neville, Pip Pip Hooray!
Dan Brierley
438 Posted 24/05/2013 at 18:13:26
All the usual suspects rolling out the usual twisted lines. Walter Smith did not appoint David Moyes. Did he recommend him? Yes he did. But was he the only recommendation? Of course not. I am sure every man and his dog had made suggestions leading up to Walters sacking. The board didn't have any obligation to follow Walter's advice. Its common knowledge that Moyes drove to London and pitched himself to Kenwright.

But as always, lets not let these things get in the way of a good whinge and moan where you can roll out all the same shite you spout on every single thread you post in, regardless of what the original posts may say. Its as if many of you just copy and paste your responses, and alter the odd word or two.

And I love this assumption that because Kenwright said he will speak to the fans, it seems there is an expectation he will personally come on to ToffeeWeb to ask your opinions?

Paul Andrews
486 Posted 24/05/2013 at 20:29:05
Brendan 197,

"Sorry I could not resist"
You should have tried a little harder

Gavin Ramejkis
489 Posted 24/05/2013 at 20:35:50
Dan copy and paste some of your lets go to Kirkby posts, could do with another laugh
Mike Byrne
511 Posted 24/05/2013 at 21:07:44
Patrick #436 - it may be early July because Pereira is under contract at Porto until 30 June and they may not have been as accomodating over us signing him as we were with Man Utd signing Moyes.

See Redknapp's name has suddenly starting appearing amongst the favourites - hope to Christ he comes nowhere near us. I for one would never go inside Goodison if that alleged tax-dodging Del-boy is in charge.

Patrick Murphy
516 Posted 24/05/2013 at 21:16:40
Mike, I know it was a little bit TIC from me as regards PN, but Redkknapp might come as some of the people who are friends of the club may be able to help the artful dodger, he has an old dog and it needs to learn new tricks.
Mike Jones
562 Posted 24/05/2013 at 22:02:07
Thanks Eugene, I appreciate that may have been difficult to acknowledge.
Mike Byrne
567 Posted 24/05/2013 at 22:13:51
Patrick - I wouldn't put anything past our own artful dodger aka BK but surely no club deserves two like that? Red-shite excluded of course
Eugene Ruane
570 Posted 24/05/2013 at 22:13:57
Not at all Mike, some people get eggy about being picked up on such things, I'm all for it, imo helps keeps debate standards up and keeps people on their toes.
Mike Jones
575 Posted 24/05/2013 at 22:36:12
Hi Eugene, thats good to hear.
Colin Wainwright
580 Posted 24/05/2013 at 22:46:58
Cheers Brian (433). You can join my club at evertonnutcases.com. We know pal. They're all fools.
Ernie Baywood
637 Posted 25/05/2013 at 05:19:05
Obviously that's right Mike and Eugene, but I'd dispute that 99% of Evertonians had never heard of Moyes prior to his appointment. He was well regarded as an "up and comer", was considered quite innovative, and had even brought his team to Goodison and given a good account of themselves. Passed us off the pitch if I remember correctly, and we needed a lot of luck to get through.
Andy Crooks
807 Posted 25/05/2013 at 16:11:21
Dan, when Kenwright said he would speak to the fans, what did YOU think he meant? Could it be that it was another cretinous, nauseating soundbite?

Did Moyes really drive to London and "pitch himself" to Kenwright? Did that really happen? Is it common knowledge? How wonderfully theatrical that sounds. Who is driving to London as we speak?

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