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Rumours about that Fulham are in for Darren Bent! Figure of £4m being mentioned! Consistent goal scorer over the years and still has a bit to offer at 28yrs of age.

I would love for our new manager to make this happen as I could see him answering our wishes for a 15-20 goal a season scorer!

Thoughts??
Jonathon Edwards, Melbourne     Posted 26/05/2013 at 13:35:28

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Tristan Kerr
559 Posted 27/05/2013 at 05:39:00
No thanks a bit of a merc that lad, as soon as he scores a few, then boom he is off to another club. For me the only 2 strikers id go for would be cordozo of benfica or negredo.....ooooo and saldado is also on the market.
Mark Pierpoint
570 Posted 27/05/2013 at 07:32:22
I agree, at £4m a good buy. Think his wage may be prohibative but who knows?
Craig Mills
578 Posted 27/05/2013 at 08:01:16
Another Jelevic in the making....promises so much but offers very little, its a big no thanks for me and ther 4m and a healthy wage packet could be better used elsewhere..............
Craig Mills
583 Posted 27/05/2013 at 08:03:48
i would have a look at Jordan Rhodes from Blackburn, another 27 goals last season and over 30 the season before that. He will command far less in wages, he is 23 years old and clearly know how to fing the net!

If he came in and scored half the goals he does in the championship, he would represent a solid signing

Mark Pierpoint
585 Posted 27/05/2013 at 08:10:11
Don't think he has the all round game Craig. So people in the media say anyway. In the Premier League you have to be able to read the game etc. and do more than be a good finisher. Can't see how Bent is another Jelavic, he has scored wherever he has been.
Sam Hoare
596 Posted 27/05/2013 at 08:34:55
I'm not sure that bent has the all round game to be honest. I'm also not sure that if we are aspiring to the top 4 that taking a striker who failed to get into a team fighting relegation last season is ideal. On the other hand he does have a consistent goal record and there is no doubting we lacked someone to convert chances last season...
Paul Ellam
625 Posted 27/05/2013 at 09:58:45
I used to live in Huddersfield and have a lot of friends from there who used to get me tickets to their games. I have seen Rhodes many times and although he can find the net there isn't much more to his game (Beckford mkII)
I would imagine we would have to pay over £10m for him too seeing as though Blackburn paid £8m and he has had a good season.
For that amount of money I reckon we can get much better abroad.
Look for strikers in the Dutch, German, French, Spanish and Belgian leagues - there are plenty of decent buys to be had.
Jim Harrison
641 Posted 27/05/2013 at 10:33:11
Word is, (From a mate of a mate!) He is a mercenary bastard. Seeing as we are broke I would rather spend the money on someone who sees Everton as a good career option as opposed to another pay cheque
Gavin Ramejkis
642 Posted 27/05/2013 at 10:35:33
Whoever we play up front it wont be to the fiddle of Gollum and his chasing lost causes or track back and become a defender anymore
Patrick Murphy
647 Posted 27/05/2013 at 10:44:03
The Huddersfield Examiner report that Dave Hickson is to be the subject of a new film.

New film about former Huddersfield Town, Everton FC and Liverpool FC star Dave Hickson

Read more: Examiner http://www.examiner.co.uk/huddersfield-town-fc/huddersfield-town-news/2013/05/27/new-film-about-former-huddersfield-town-everton-and-liverpool-star-dave-hickson-86081-33387937/#ixzz2UU6wagyp

What would we give to have a striker with his bravery and ability in the current team?

Paul David
657 Posted 27/05/2013 at 10:59:31
I think Bent is similar to Jelavic in that neither are good footballers and the only thing they offer is goals but thats not a bad thing, at least Bent is a proven scorer at this level. He would be a frustrating player to watch as he is useless in any build up play, lazy and has no idea what the off side rule is but I think its worth putting up with for the 15 plus goals he guarantees. I've no idea what went on with him at Villa this season or what his wages are but £4m seems like a very good price to me.
Craig Mills
662 Posted 27/05/2013 at 11:17:19
Its a difficult call with a striker, a lower league buy (ie Rhodes) may simply not be good enough for the premier league, European strikers can struggle with the pace and physical elements (take the 10m the RS paid for Borreni) so are you better going for premiership experience and a proven goal scoring record.......how about a Defoe? not sure he will get much game time at Spurs if they buy big again this summer
Mark Pierpoint
667 Posted 27/05/2013 at 11:37:51
Little sell on value with a player like Defoe. Also I think he will stay at Spurs now as he has done well this year for them. For every Borini there is a Benteke I suppose.
Andy Hegan
671 Posted 27/05/2013 at 11:51:16
What new manager? By the time we get one this will be long gone as will many others
Wayne McNee
672 Posted 27/05/2013 at 11:50:33
Rumour before end of season was that Jelly was thinking of moving? DM going might of changed his mind. Who knows, could be what he needs psychologically & of course he wouldn't have the defensive restraints. Lets see? Could come good?
Denis Richardson
675 Posted 27/05/2013 at 12:02:44
Personally, if the price was right and his wage demands not ridiculous (£50k a weekish) then I would snap him up in a heartbeat.

The guy's a proven goalscorer (150 odd goals in about 350 games), give him decent service and get Jelly firing again and we'd have a potent front two. Have a couple of hungry decent-looking youngsters as back up and I'd be happy (i.e. not Anichebe). No sell-on value admittedly but if we get him and he scores 15+ for 2-3 seasons we'd have got good value. I don't care if he's a mercenary (most footballers are anyway), as long as he sticks the ball in the net I'd be happy.

He only didn't make the Villa side because he fell out with the manager, not because he wasn't good enough. He single-handedly kept Charlton in comfortable mid-table position when he was there, and they were shit otherwise.

Anyway, let's sort out a new manager first...

Dennis Stevens
688 Posted 27/05/2013 at 12:40:33
That's interesting, Patrick. I notice there's also a film planned about Robin Friday. However, no word of anybody making a film about Dixie - somebody write & tell Ben Affleck he's missing an opportunity!
Ernie Baywood
692 Posted 27/05/2013 at 12:51:27
BK is making the Dixie movie with Tabacula isn't he? I thought I read recently that it's in post production (though it seems like years since the first promos came out).
Ross Edwards
693 Posted 27/05/2013 at 12:53:55
Past it now. Overated.
Tony Cheek
774 Posted 27/05/2013 at 15:13:34
Well something has to be done before we play in that International Champions cup. We surely cannot go there with Anichebe and Jelavic leading the line.Could be mega-embarassing!
Andrew Laird
937 Posted 27/05/2013 at 19:39:56
A comical footballer who relied on pace and a through ball in and behind centre - backs, something Everton don't do, he offers nothing else whatsoever. He struggles with the basics of football but somehow scores a few. His hold up play is laughable and I seriously cannot believe he and Bramble ever made it past Ipswich Town.

Some fans might laugh but Victor Anichebe is twice the player of Bent, I have had the misfortune of seeing him numerous times at Portman Road and he gives hope to any aspiring youngster who dreams of making it.

Ray Roche
941 Posted 27/05/2013 at 20:01:05
Andrew, I always thought that Bent was the type of player who'd score with his arse or his knee before he'd lash one in from 25 yards. A lucky, lucky type not known for his outright speed.

When I say "lucky, lucky" I don't mean those blokes who sell cheap copies of Rolex on the beach at Cannes. Although, he IS free all summer...

Andrew Laird
950 Posted 27/05/2013 at 20:16:10
He was very, very quick when he was younger Ray, it was a toss up whether he went into athletics.

I know what you mean with reference to those 'tab heur' salesmen though, he has a knack of being able to scuff the ball further than most can kick it... now if he doesn't know what he is going to do then defenders and goalkeepers have no chance.

John Daley
951 Posted 27/05/2013 at 20:14:47
"Victor Anichebe is twice the player of Bent"

His record in the Premier League: 102 goals in 203 games. I would be surprised if Victor gets within Godzilla's gonad of that total.

"A comical footballer who relied on pace and a through ball in and behind centre - backs...".

Comical? You'd think he was Brett Angell or something. A forward with pace who can run on to a through ball? Far better having a big lump with the poaching instinct of Elmer Fudd up top eh?

Ray Roche
955 Posted 27/05/2013 at 20:24:43
Andrew, I was regarded as very quick when I was young, no, really, but just about anyone can get to the bar before me now.

wink, wink...

Colin Glassar
958 Posted 27/05/2013 at 20:27:17
We will have to wait and see how Martinez solves this conundrum. I think Bent could be a good option.
James Stewart
964 Posted 27/05/2013 at 20:34:02
Bent is a good shout. At 4m that is good business he will score 15-20 goals and where else can you get that for that price?
Andrew Laird
975 Posted 27/05/2013 at 20:35:55
John, I would like to see how many goals Bent would score playing right wing. Anichebe, whatever you think of him, is a better all round footballer. Bent has scored goals there is no denying it, the team would have to be built around him though and our football would suffer. Spurs wouldn't do it and he struggled.

Everton don't do through balls, Bent cannot do anything else. I personally would rather have Elmer Fudd, although the surnames are evenly matched. Maybe our strikeforce one day will be referred to as ''fudd'n bent''.

Ray, glad to hear you are not so nimble around the alehouse, short arms and deep pockets, eh? The experience of a seasoned campaigner who knows it is a marathon and not a sprint.

James Martin
980 Posted 27/05/2013 at 20:59:10
Jelavic will come good again. Scored wherever he's been every season apart from this one. He still has the talent, watch the finish on his first ever goal for us and the one against Sunderland that season - still haven't seen better one touch finishes than them in a long time. Moyes' team formation ruined him as did the inability of any of our midfield ever to play a risky ball. the amount of times he made a good run and the ball would just never come, everyone always checked back or chose to pass outside the area. You can have whoever you want playing up there, if the midfield don't give it to him when he's making runs, no one is going to score.
Charles Barrow
988 Posted 27/05/2013 at 21:11:21
Not sure about Jelavic coming good!! I was right behind the goal at Chelsea and Jelavic manages to scoop the ball away from the goal with cech stranded. That's some skill!
James Martin
998 Posted 27/05/2013 at 21:20:59
Charles if it was Anichebe or a Vaughan or Andy Johnson or Beckford then I'd say let them go because none of them have/did ever show anything other than willingness and occasionally a bit of pace (although that is in short supply right now). the first 6 months from Jelavic though was some of the best finishing we'd seen for a long time at Everton, finishing of genuine class. His touch wasn't always this bad either in fact I remember thinking that in comparison to Saha's it was absolutely great. Touch and sharpness go with confidence, Jelavic more than anyone relies on both, but the talent that bagged all those goals at his previous clubs and at ours does not just disappear. What are the options, rehabilitate him and enjoy what we saw last season, or sell him probably for a nominal fee and replace him with who? Unless we find a Michu you can't get quality goalscores for a couple of mill.
Mark Frere
001 Posted 27/05/2013 at 21:20:17
Jame Martin 980

Jelavic has spent his career playing in croatia, Austria and Scotland, hardly the most challenging leagues in the world. Jelavic enjoyed a bit of an honeymoon period at first which many strikers seem to enjoy at new clubs. I'm not totally writing him off just yet but i'm just not convinced he'l come good

Jack Cross
004 Posted 27/05/2013 at 21:22:08
One minute people on here are saying were a big club, then they talk about buying Bent. He's finished. We could have had him several years ago when he was a top striker and scored for fun and I think he was going for 6-7 mil then. But like usual we dillied on the price and was snapped up by someone else. We have Velios give him a chance and sell Victor. Jelly, will be a different proposition next year with Moyse gone.

If I hear about this sodden badge one more time I'll scream. No Coach, back room staff going and poss Feli and Baines and what are you moaning about a bit of fluff on your tit. That's this club all over. Fan wise were second to no one. But the back room running of this club is shite.

James Martin
005 Posted 27/05/2013 at 21:37:44
Mark they're not the most challenging leagues but he's also scored at international level. Why is his initial form a honeymoon period yet his current form is going to stick around for ever? Until we see what he does next season we won't know which is the anomaly. Put it this way if a chance was to fall to any member of this Everton team in the box in the last minute v the RS who would you want on the end of it? For me the answer to that question is still Jelavic and I'd feel a lot more confident on the opening day of next season if his name is on the sheet rather than Anichebe's.
Mark Frere
011 Posted 27/05/2013 at 21:48:55
James, iv'e always thought one of the most important characteristics of any striker is strength of character, Jelavic is going to have to show a bit of character and get his nack of scoring again.

Don't give me the bollocks that Moyes ruins strikers, Jelavic has missed sitter after sitter this season. Like ive said i'm not writing him off just yet but next season will tell us alot

James Martin
012 Posted 27/05/2013 at 22:03:27
I'm not saying Moyes ruined him Mark just that his formation didn't get the best out of him. Every other top club has a Mata/ Rooney type figure threading balls through for their strikers. We had Fellaini holding it up and playing it backwards, Jelavic's runs just went unoticed. It was a system that allowed us to monopolise possession and bring midfielders into the game but didn't get the best out of Fellaini or Jelavic.
Mark Frere
016 Posted 27/05/2013 at 22:09:42
I do agree with that James, Fellaini is totally unsuited to playing the advanced role, he brings a few goals for his efforts but does'nt bring much creativity. I'm just saying there's no excuse for Jelavic's dire finishing in front of goal
Colin Wainwright
017 Posted 27/05/2013 at 22:39:02
Totally agree James. (012).
Sam Hoare
018 Posted 27/05/2013 at 22:33:35
James, Jelavic has had and missed a lot of good goal scoring opportunities in the last 6 months. Moyes stuck with him and tried to give him the chance to play back into form but it didn't happen. His all round game (except for his work rate) has been poor and I'm not convinced that he's going to be able to turn it all round. I hope I'm wrong but the guy just looked lost.
Mark Frere
022 Posted 27/05/2013 at 23:06:13
spot on Sam, he has looked lost. The sad thing for me is that he really does seem to care and looks as disapointed as anyone. Really hope he can find some form because we desperately need The Jelavic of a year ago and he seems like a genuine nice lad who's eager to do well
Ben Jones
051 Posted 28/05/2013 at 00:20:18
Not sure how Jelavic and Bent would be anywhere near a good partnership.

Both only poachers who offer very little in all round play, how would that work?!

I would give Jela one more season, depending on who we appoint. But we do need another striker, but I don't think Bent is the answer. Lukaku on loan would be a better idea.

James Stewart
057 Posted 28/05/2013 at 00:45:27
Jelavic is the worst striker in the Premier League. He has been absolute garbage. I have never seen someone miss so many good chances in one season. The most worrying is not only does he miss, he does so with horrible technique. He should be replaced. Anyone will do. Can't be any worst.
Ernie Baywood
065 Posted 28/05/2013 at 00:57:48
But, then again, I don't think I've seen someone as deadly either. He wasn't just good in his first few months, he was exceptional.

He got gradually worse as this season wore on, to the point of being embarrassingly bad, but early on he was playing alright, scoring goals, and genuinely unlucky not to have more.

Did he just lose confidence? Did Fellaini or the formation affect him? Did that knee injury really hamper him? There's still a player in there and maybe a new season and a change in manager is exactly what he needs.

Personally I wouldn't be rushing to add a journeyman while we've got Jelly. Youth -yes; proven quality - yes. But not a Bent or other stop gap.

Geoff Trenner
217 Posted 29/05/2013 at 10:09:50
We don't need top buy a new striker. Lots of people on here claim that Moyes ruins strikers so a new manager will have Victor scoring 20 next season & Jelly will get at least 30.

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