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Fellaini says this season is his last
'I have seen everything'
Marouane Fellaini claims he could leave the club as soon as the next transfer window. In an interview with a Belgian newspaper published today Fellaini said he was now looking for a way out of Goodison Park."I am just starting my fifth season at Everton, this will be one of my last," he told Het Nieuwsblad.
"I have seen everything. In January, or at the end of the season, I will turn to another club or league."
Fellaini's ambition is understandable but the timing of his comments, just three weeks into the new season has raised eyebrows.
He subsequently tried to allay fears of a January departure on his Facebook page, by claiming surprise about the newspaper story, and saying he was has happy at Everton (see below). But the genie was not going back in the bottle that easily...
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2 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:00:18
Hopefully something lost in translation but he might have trouble explaining this one away to Moyes when he gets back to the Club next week.
3 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:08:10
We have to make do without Fellaini one day. If it's tomorrow, then so be it. Onwards, and we move on and continue our way forward.
4 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:09:06
Why would he come out with this just as the window has shut anyway? More pressure on BK to get Moyes signed up again? Who knows..
If he wants to move to a new league, then I would suggest he actually looks at the players Barca, Real, Bayern in their midfields first.
5 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:08:59
6 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:06:59
Assuming nothing has been lost in translation and Fellaini means what he says, then I am feeling a lot of frustration, anger and disappointment. I thought that we were building our team around him and that he would be here for a long, long time.
I wonder if the sudden thrusting into the media spotlight following the United game has anything to do with this...
Suddenly every man and his dog were talking the boy up and envious eyes were being cast.
I, too would like to see his explanation to Moyes and more importantly to the fans for this statement
7 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:13:14
8 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:12:14
It'll be a load of rubbish as he's admitted already this summer that he loves it at Everton and now we've spent a bit of money, signed his mate I can't see him wanting out too soon.
And in the same interview right, why would he say he's thinking of leaving and then when asked about Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe, say he was disappointed we didn't get him and hoped we would in the future?
Why would the interview be so contrasting, from wanting to leave and then hoping we sign his Belgian team mate? Surely if he had leaving on his mind he wouldn't give a shit about if we signed him in the future or not?!
9 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:21:08
10 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:24:25
11 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:23:21
12 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:27:59
13 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:19:46
He doesn't fit in with our team and Moyes never really knows where to play him. One good game up front, then, because his Andy Carroll style attracts publicity, he wants to go as soon as possible.
Totally classless gobshite, after persuading his international team mate Mirallas to join us, he wants to jump ship. This is the ideal opportunity for the likes of Berkley and Mirallas to come into the side, and leave Fellaini on the bench; after all, we will have to do without him soon anyway, and I'd prefer someone who wants to play for us on the park.
Watched him against Wales and – not just sour grapes – I thought he was clueless and painfully slow. Good riddance and I hope we get about £20m off some mugs and buy a right back and bring Landon back in January.
14 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:04:15
15 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:29:41
Most probably his dad telling him he is world class because of the plaudits he got against Man Utd... well, start doing it against the West Broms too — if he believes his own hype so much.
16 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:27:07
Everything was going so right at Everton until he joined, the player to supposedly take us forward set us back. He craps out of every derby game as well.
If some idiotic club is willing to pay £30 million for him then we could get 2 genuine world class players in. Then our game can once again be based around the creative talents of an Arteta or Pienaar type rather than trying to use Fellaini as some sort of Kevin Davies type target man. We could have had Modric for that money, instead we got Fellaini; he‘s never given us 15 million pounds worth of talent.
17 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:36:32
18 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:36:34
Are they stupid?
I'd love Fellaini to be here for good but if he wants to leave then sell him on for £35m+, somebody like Real, City or Chelsea will pay it.
Let's face it, it's how a club like Everton survives these days. Buy or produce a player for a smaller fee or nothing and sell them on for big bucks. Even Arsenal do it. Until Bill the crook fucks off and we get a billionaire owner, it's how we get by.
19 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:44:28
On current form he is worth £30 million and some one will pay that I'm sure. Zenit just bought Axel Witsel for around that price and Fellaini is on par with him, if not better.
We didn't spend all of the Rodwell money so I'm guessing we have appeased some creditors until next summer at least so we're in a good bargaining position.
A fair price is anywhere between £23-£30 million in the current climate and if Moyes can reinvest most of that we'll probably be in a better position.
20 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:48:19
21 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:41:37
22 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:50:06
It may explain why many of the players were flat against West Brom particularly Fellaini.
It was not so long ago he was singing Moyes's and the club's praises. I wonder if Moyesy is planning an exit at the end of the season or could it be that the squad was promised significant replacements following Rodwell's sale and in reality all we got was Mirallas.
Nevertheless, (if true) those comments are badly misplaced and mistimed...
23 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:57:29
I think he is very fond of our club. That said, I'm sure it is his dream to win titles. If he wants to move on then I wouldn't have a problem with it.
So long as we get serious cash then I'm sure we can deal with the loss.
I like Fellaini, he's a fantastic player at times. But he's not irreplaceable.
24 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:52:59
There was the last transfer window on our Belgians much news to gather around Marouane Fellaini but remained silent. In 2008 he moved to 20 million from Standard to Everton. Last year in November, he extended his contract with the Toffees until 2016 but it seems that he will not take off contract.
"I begin now to my fifth season at Everton," the Perminator in England as he is sometimes called. "This will be one of my last. I've seen everything. In January or at the end of the season I would look for another club or league. Pity incidentally Vadis that he did not come to Everton. It may come later on. "
25 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:02:16
Notice he didn't want to leave whilst we were paying him through those long-term injuries or sticking with him when he was getting sent off every other game. No, one good game, a bit of media adulation and he's off.
We could have had 8 Artetas for the price of him. Other, better, more creative players with some actual speed and flair are out there and at better value, Fellaini's money oculd really move us forward into becoming the attacking team everyone wants us to be.
26 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:59:34
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27 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:11:33
Fellaini has been sent off just once in his Everton career.
28 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:09:12
29 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:04:01
I listen to the Guardian's Football Weekly podcast, and in the last one before the transfer window closed, one of the journos, Barry Glendenning, made a prediction/wisecrack that Fellaini would be poor against West Brom if he were still at Everton after the window closed.
There was a lot of hype about him the first couple of weeks of the season and I reckon it's gone to his head. If he does want to go, I'll be disappointed as I rate him, but for god's sake, please get good money for him!
30 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:59:47
I'm sure I'll get shot down in flames for even suggesting this, but could actually see wayne come back a few years earlier than expected!
31 Posted 09/09/2012 at 15:51:43
Will have to wait and see if there is a retraction but, as it stands, it amounts to a serious betrayal because it will make it really difficult to play him with the confidence that he will give his all, and puts us in a poor bargaining position when we deal with prospective buyers.
32 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:12:52
Tony Christian, what's your view on homegrown mercenaries?
33 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:12:02
If he didn't say it then I hope some of the fickle fans posting on this thread will retract their harsh comments.
For me he's been our best player for a couple of years now. Not always totally consistent but covers more ground, makes more tackles and is involved in more chances than any other player.
34 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:19:20
36 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:24:58
37 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:19:48
He's largely responsible for two of the three goals we've conceded this season yet all anyone goes on about is Osman and Hibbert or Howard. His role in allowing Carroll to knock us out of the cup is also conveniently overlooked, must have been Hibbert's or Neville's fault. We may have undeservedly gone to pens and won (like they have countless times).
Although not red-carded he's missed numerous games through suspension thanks to cumulative yellow cards. How many games has he just drifted through because he's not at full fitness? When he is fit, he can play like he did against Man Utd, when he's not, he's virtually useless and a bit like Carroll it takes ages for him to rev up to full fitness (perhaps an overlooked excuse for our poor starts).
If he'd played like he did against Man Utd every week then I'd have no problem with him but he hasn't for the best part of 5 or so years. But there's always an excuse for everything for him, isn't there, everyone blindly fawning all over him in the hope that we can cling onto this man with a big price tag and that we may actually have a genuine world class star and be a big club.
The reality is he has nowhere near delivered anything like a world class contribution to Everton on a consistent basis.
38 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:15:50
People venting their spleen at Fellaini are missing the point as will be proved if Jelavic reproduces last seasons form or Mirallas etc.
Pissing against the wind with this mob.
39 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:23:07
40 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:28:48
And Chris, the line following him saying "one of my last", he says either in January or at the end of the season.
41 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:37:21
42 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:38:29
ps: If you would've bothered your arse jumping against Andy Carroll in the semi.....
43 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:38:28
Even if we do the impossible and get a Top 4 spot, I doubt whether we could with the squad and our lack of experience get through the initial stages of the competition (as last time in 2004-05) and these 3 or 4 players will know this and could possibly still force a transfer.
Premier League success for us will only throw the spotlight on our better players and unless we can start to match the £70-80k week salaries they can easily get elsewhere (and probably more!) then we will forever be chasing the yearly entrance to the CL.
44 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:43:01
Barring any misquotes, it is an incredible thing to say at this stage of the season.
If we get good money then in the long run I think it will be a good thing. He is a terrific player but lacks consistency.
45 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:58:15
Okay (hang on, fuck, REO Speedwagon – would you Adam and Eve it, REO Speedwagon are on live on me box at 10-11 AM on the Sabbath, and the three guitaurists are coming together in those hideous 70s stage huddles – Take it on the Run Baby, … join in Eugene.) Anyway, back to the post:
(1) Timing is all (1) MF. Why on earth would you spit this all out in the second week of September hanging out with the Belgos on International duty, you big dumb twat? You did not need to do this. You could have sat in your nice riverside flat making calls, sounding things out, but there is no need to turn to the press at this point – note to self: perhaps lanky Belgo is not as smart as I once thought...
You sir are one of the reasons (indeed, according to the ToffeeWebbers August poll, THE reason) for our smart start to the season. Couldnt you have let it unfold a little and just wait and see for a little? Instead of now causing some inevitable whisperings, tensions, and perhaps one or two resentments in the camp, therefore potentially threatening that smart start and the chance that in fact you might be wrong and EFC could be up there come next May?
nb: I would not want to be Mr Hair when he gets back to his Everton family and has to explain himself to the gaffer and the lads and all that and the tea lady (piss in his tea, Rita). Ouch, I would not want to be sitting about the gaffers office – the Sensational Alex Harvey Band humming on the other side of the door notwithstanding – knowing that in a minute or two I will be on the end of a bollocking from – Mr Barry – disciplinary, dictatorial, difficult, demanding, daunting Moysey.
(2) Timing is all (2) Okay, the cat is out of the bag, the hair bear bunch are heading for the door. Good news, in anticipation, we hope, of major sponds crossing his palms, Moysey now has all the time in the world to scout about for at least two major new signings (more if he follows this year and sticks to well below £10 mill) that will make this team even better and more likely to be up there. Based on the last nine months or so, we ought to have high hopes that the gaffer and his advisors will nail this one down.
(3) Forgive me, not once have I ever been fully convinced by our towering Belgo, not once. Theres a buzz around him since 20 August and long may it continue and lets hope that it rises in crescendo. Yes, there have been some sublime moments ad the Manure 90 minutes will live long in the memory.
That all said, sometimes his very Crouch-like dangly awkwardness on the ball (dont worry, I know hes better than mutant Lurch) stops me from ever becoming convinced. Not many of us on here would have guessed he had that Manure 90 in him and now he is suddenly unstoppable (Daily Blah), unplayable (Terry Darracott), relentless (Radio Caroline), impossible to defend against in that situation (Plassy Bertrand), unbelievable (Vince Cable) blah, blah, blah, blah, ad infinitum …..
He just ain't as good as some on here seem to think and that aint sour grapes, promise, the sponds will get us a better player and one or two more to boot, also a promise.
(4) And perhaps most important of all, Everton fans are for the most pretty cool. I myself came of age in the late-70s/early-80s away mob (yes Dean Adams, Mark Stone, Mike Oates, Noel Lynam, Denis Richardson, Sam Hoare, James Martin, Mark Dunford, Dave Wilson, the entire fucking Freshy, there were even Moyes haters before Moyes in the Buggles years): designers this, designer that, right up to me Sherlock Holmes cap, no colours, no colours anywhere in sight, impeccable music taste, in a blue nutshell, 100 per cent cool.
So, its something of a shock to me to see an uncomfortable number of my fellow Evertonians sporting aforesaid lanky Belgos Minnie Ripperton hair wig. Unless you are below 5, and even then Dad what were you thinking, it is quite frankly a little embarrassing, grown men and all that. We are not the barcodes gentlemen please – note to Moyes, make it a #1 priority to buy ace players with the Belgo sponds with cool barnets).
(5) last but not least, any day now expect a missive from Captain Pip about how great morale is at Finch Farm. ‘Like we stick together like glue, like, and the lads are one like and an apple not sliced is whole and you cant split an atom like.
To briefly recap: (1) terrible timing MF, makes us all think that you might be a twat on the run (2) start looking Davey, plenty of time and sponds mate (3) he aint as good as many of you seem to think (4) no more silly shitty hair wigs at the Old Lady, back to the cool (5) And so Phil …..
46 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:56:28
47 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:59:52
48 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:59:37
Frankly, if there's no cliched 'lost in translation' explanation, I find his honesty refreshing.
Rather that than him kissing the badge one week, promising to 'be here next season' only to piss-off anyway.
An up-front, no bullshit, honest appraisal of his career past, present & future. I don't mind that one bit.
49 Posted 09/09/2012 at 16:51:37
In the Sunday Times today, Wayne Rooney quotes, I think, Michael Jordan, who felt that a great player should make his team great. We don't have great players at Everton now.
50 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:16:14
He is on a big contract and therefore would command a sizable fee. I can't see anything other than a win-win situation for us. He could be replaced easily.
51 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:09:51
Anyway, we have done without him in the past and doubtless we'll be able to do so again and we can use the cash to get Wayne back where he belongs.
52 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:16:32
If Fellaini, Baines, and Jelavic all had great seasons then we probably would get into the Champions League but they don't. Jelavic was only here for half a season so it's too early to judge, he may well yet fire us there. But Fellaini has never put a good consistent season together.
Neither has Baines; he looks good when Pienaar is in front of him but defensively rocky if anyone else is there. Likewise the boys at the back, for such talented centrebacks Jagielka and Distin always seem to have at least one error a game in them (or two, such as Norwich away last season which we'd won twice before they cocked it up again).
The January additions are consistent — Pienaar Jelavic and Gibson look as though they could go a whole season at the same level; everyone else seems to veer from the sublime to the ridiculous. Until the rest of the squad matches their consistency and cuts out these stupid errors that turn wins into draws, then we'll never get fourth again.
53 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:10:08
Now we are all mercenaries, I do not know of anyone who would turn down more money. Add the fact they are talented sportsmen who are ambitious then I don't blame any of them for wanting to achieve all they can for the relatively few years they have got to do it in. However the timing is awful.
Having said that, I agree with Paul, I have never been convinced by the guy. Too me he is just another Rodwell. It has taken Moyes four years to decide where his best position is and I remain unconvinced.
When we signed him I was gutted it wasn't his two colleagues Witzel and Defour; with the exception of two games against Utd and the City home game in 2010, he has never been anything special. If Moyes can genuinely reinvest then I think he can improve the team further. I just hope he states it was all a misunderstanding (even if he is after a move) and the team continue onwards and upwards.
54 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:25:25
However, I hope Moyes has begun to line up replacements. A decent whack for him and use the wages to bring in two players. My concern with playing him so far forward is that we may become one-dimensional again and stifle any creativity in the side. That and the fact I can see Big Vic playing in his place.
55 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:25:47
We are paying this man approx £50,000 a week, and he comes out with this shit 3 games into the season!!
Makes you wonder if his first two League performances were a "come and get me" plea to City or Chelsea.
That would make him an even bigger twat than those comments above.
56 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:11:21
57 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:41:34
We were always his stepping stone which is fine. We get the money and move on.
Neville and Distin are out of contract, whilst Hibbert, Osman, Jags and Pienaar are all another year older. A decent fee allows Moyes to replace like this year. Summer sales groundhog day.
58 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:58:57
59 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:04:26
60 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:46:17
61 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:48:22
I understand you hate the guy, I even understand a little of why James, I really do, but accusing him of actual theft is not helping any cause just venting frustration. It doesn't take your cause forward, help the Blue Union etc, it just drives people away from your position.
As for Felli... if true his words are disgusting. He's earning nearly £4m a year isn't he? He has been unavailable due to injury or suspension for nearly a third of his time here, has wonderful support from the fan base yet thinks it's clever to shit all over us like this? He's a top top player as we will see if, as he seems to be angling for, a transfer happens in January when he will command a fee not less than £25m and there will be takers.
The timing of his words is appalling, just as the club faces another round of bickering caused by the Fifa ruling on our late late transfer last week. Plus Felli's part in our season so far is... One brilliant game, one very good game and one utter couldn't-care-less performance at West Brom which along with most others was as poor as it gets from a team who we know are much much better than that....
I despair at the reality that is the stranglehold these players have on our clubs and our game. The fans help create it, we put up with being laughed at by these vastly overpaid selfish morons but then if the git scores against Newcastle I will go ape like everyone else... Is there an answer to player and agent power?
62 Posted 09/09/2012 at 17:44:40
After all, "Rodwell agreed to terms thought to be around 100K per week" signalled Fella's departure was only a matter of how soon.
But why he'd make such a statement this time of year is baffling. Looking forward to hearing what he says when he gets back.
63 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:12:32
64 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:12:32
65 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:24:22
I for one, wouldn't blame him for moving on.
Kenwright will already be rubbing his hands at how much he can get for him.
66 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:24:17
Burn those fucking wigs,I say!
67 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:18:28
I also don't have a problem for him (or anyone else) to be ambitious enough to want to play at the highest level or to have tangible success and the medals to show for it.
The timing is ridiculous though, as it can only be disruptive for the club he is tied to for another 3 months.
Why are people talking about Champions League though? Realistically, progress this season would be adequately shown by a trophy and Europa League qualification. That may not be enough to retain Fellaini but it should not precipitate a mass exodus. In fact, I would expect it to provide a decent platform for attracting up and coming players, as not everyone can play for the billionaire clubs.
68 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:26:13
Kenwright the Shyster. Nicked the club, without 2 bob to invest, while he was already running a car he couldn't afford so to speak, and but for Moyes he wouldn't be runnin this 'vehicle' at all... And still yet wouldn't take a good profit from people with the money to help the club earlier on.....
Which is why ALL THIS TRANSFER SHIT WILL CONTINUE TILL HE IMPLODES.
69 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:26:31
70 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:38:26
If what he has said is true, I'd drop him. Knee-jerk, I know but I'm livid.
71 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:41:51
72 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:42:52
73 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:36:41
If what he said proves to be true, then fuck him. If he feels that way then fair enough, but why rock the boat this early in the season?Hopefully, something lost in translation but, if not, then just another knobhead, not as good as he thinks he is.
74 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:42:52
75 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:51:34
Now, if richer clubs come bearing gifts, we know what the result will be.
But this statement, so ill-timed, so out of the blue? I don't get it.
Let's see what he says on return.
76 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:43:55
So, to avoid being a traitor boyhood blues with talent have to spend their entire careers at The Old Lady. You fucking bastard Nugent. You bastard shitbag Lambert. You piece of turncoat shit XYZ blah blah blah, ad infinitum.
Get over it. It was a long long long time ago. Rooney is still loyal to Everton; ask his kids decked out in blue not red, wife who said she would never wear red underwear, neighbours, team-mates (1st in the dressing room after the game: 'How did Everton get on?'), SAF, who knows.
Get over it FFS. Move on. Don't get locked in the rigid past. You feel this way because he was THAT GOOD. Young talents at Finch Farm take note: (1) you cannot go anywhere else (2) do not say 'Once a Blue, always a Blue' even though Wayne still is a Blue (3) if you move to another team you no longer support the Blues, it's like never again talking to the ex-wife.
Can't believe this shit still simmers. I'd take WR back in a heartbeat, so therefore I am a traitor.
77 Posted 09/09/2012 at 19:11:04
So on the strength of that, we have so many calling him some choice names. He is still here and I would imagine if we have a great season he will be saying how great it is to play for us. He is ambitious. That is the kind of player I want in our ranks, you know, someone looking to win things and not happy to settle for mediocrity.
78 Posted 09/09/2012 at 18:47:46
Hopefully it doesn't kill our season by unsettling the team. I expect him to return from international duty and clear it up with a statement saying it's all bollocks and he's happy here (for now anyway).
Hold off on the lynching just in case...
79 Posted 09/09/2012 at 19:14:56
80 Posted 09/09/2012 at 19:24:03
81 Posted 09/09/2012 at 19:27:23
Don't stop reading at that sentence. Fellaini goes on to say he could leave in January. Don't be so selective. There is a difference between being ambitious and going out publicly calling when you will be demanding to leave the club. This is so unacceptable it's almost hard to believe.
82 Posted 09/09/2012 at 20:16:14
83 Posted 09/09/2012 at 20:17:47
He's not even that good, in my opinion. I've never been a fan of his languid laid-back style of play. He lacks pace, has got no left foot, and until recently had a discipline issue. He's had a couple of good games against Man Utd and Villa and all of a sudden thinks he's the dog's bollocks. If you want to go, shut the door on your way out.... dickhead!
84 Posted 09/09/2012 at 20:25:42
Can you imagine the reaction if it was a year odd ago and he could join a foreign club for nothing?
85 Posted 09/09/2012 at 19:36:52
His length of contract remaining will give the club the option to look for top dollar. Now if he is as good as he believes, and for clubs to fork out top dollar terms, you need to be world class, then he needs to reflect on his statement that he has been with us for 5 years and seen everything. Well one thing he hasn't seen is a club/clubs knocking the door down for his services as they tend to do for world class players and have done for years.
I imagine a fair bit of backtracking on his return as he realises that the valuation Everton put on him in the era of fair play rules may well see him a touch disappointed. Still, with him or without him, the Blues roll on. Leaving us with a shed load of money may well be his most fruitful legacy. But the flannel coming in the next fortnight will be worth waiting for and digesting...
86 Posted 09/09/2012 at 20:42:19
I don't think he will go this January (especially if we are doing ok in the leauge). But he is on his way to becoming a £30 million pound player (Henderson £20m????). I can imagine a bidding war with some top clubs after him. Maybe he will stay if we finish 3rd or 4th? I'd like him to stay but players come and go and EFC needs the money.
87 Posted 09/09/2012 at 20:48:50
Guys,
I was very surprised to read in some newspapers that I will leave Everton very soon and perhaps next January.
Let me remind you that I am very happy in Liverpool and our start of the championship was good. Kevin Mirallas and some other good players joined us to make a better squad in order to realize a good championship in the line of the end of the last one.
So with Everton, I am ready to play all the season and to reach our goals of this season. However, my only concern for the moment is of course our (Red Devils) Tuesday's game against Croatia.
Whether you're in Belgium or England, thank you from my heart for your support …
Marouane
88 Posted 09/09/2012 at 20:56:21
The comments as reported, if true, show him for exactly what he is- a good footballer with his own best interests at heart. Good luck to him. I cried when Lineker left, we won the league the year after. I was gutted when Rooney left, we had our best Premier League finish immediately after. Felli is good, but far from irreplaceable. I remember thinking we were screwed when Gravesen went to Madrid, in his place came Arteta. Hopefully we can find a player as good, if not better, this time around too.
89 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:01:01
90 Posted 09/09/2012 at 19:11:30
Anyway, if Felli went in January wouldn't it be sweet as hell if we got Moutinho ahead of Tottenham Cockspurs?
91 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:05:46
Also, Fellaini has just posted this on his official Twitter account: "Guys, just want to remind you that I'm very happy in Everton and now very concentrated for national team game! Thanks".
Link here: https://twitter.com/fellainiM/status/244888459813212160
92 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:09:42
No smoke without fire one would suggest...
93 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:13:31
94 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:12:22
95 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:05:35
Fellaini's timing is stupid, but the criticism of his ability is unjust... on his day, I would argue that Yaya is the only better central midfielder in the league. If we get £25M+ for him, I will be happy. Unfortunately, it was rather inevitable he would leave. He wasn't a secret when he came to us and he isn't now. Fingers crossed that he does the right thing and apologises though, as we don't need a problem with morale.
96 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:20:38
fellainiM: @Everton Guys, just want to remind you that I'm very happy in Everton and now very concentrated for national team game! Thanks
His twitter acount just posted this!!!
97 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:08:48
As long as he keeps performing in a blue shirt then I am more than happy. If he then stays, all good and well. If he goes than as long as we get top dollar that will do me.
Judging by some of the bile on this thread a lot of people will be glad to see the back of him, I am not one of them.
98 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:30:49
Chers amis,
J'ai parcouru la presse ces dernières heures et à ma grande surprise, certains journalistes annoncent mon départ d'Everton au mois de janvier prochain.
Comme je vous l'ai souvent précisé, je suis très heureux à Everton d'autant plus qu'après ma prolongation de contrat, l'équipe a été renforcée notamment avec la venue de Kévin Mirallas.
Notre fin de saison dernière nous a permis de prouver notre place en Premier League et la direction l'a confirmé ces dernières semaines. Je suis très heureux de notre début de championnat et je serai concentré pour la suite de la saison avec Everton.
Toutefois, ma seule préoccupation actuellement est bien sûr le match de mardi contre la Croatie.
Que vous soyez en Belgique ou en Angleterre, merci du fond du coeur pour votre soutien...
Marouane.
Dear friends, I have walked the press these last hours and to my surprise, some journalists announce my departure from Everton in next January.
As I have often said you, I am very pleased to Everton as after my contract extension, the team has been strengthened with the arrival of Kevin Mirallas.
Our end of last season has allowed us to prove our place in the Premier League and the direction was confirmed in recent weeks. I am very pleased with our start of Championship and I'll be concentrated for the rest of the season with Everton.
However, my only concern is currently of course the match Tuesday against Croatia.
Whether you are in Belgium or in England, thank you from the bottom of my heart for your support...
Marwan
On Bluekipper's Facebook 25mins ago
99 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:27:28
The reality is that Everton do not have the power or capability to pay the obscene wages being offered to players these days, £70k is probably our ceiling and Rodwell in comparison is earning circa £100k per week. If Fellaini wants away, there is little we can do, the vast profit can be reinvested into the team and Everton will carry on. We are fans and loyalty to us is a given, I agree with Paul Johnson: if you want loyalty get a dog.
100 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:33:07
As with Johnny, seems Quotes to foreign (to us) media seem to get misread/mis translated and it leads to a lack of harmony. Maybe as one contributor suggested, Moyes should stop players making statements without some sort of club clearance.
Sadly, at the first sign of something not right, contributors are quick to be scathing of the players, sometimes I wonder if that is why the players themselves appear to mirror that lack of the loyalty we so desire.
If we are so quick to criticise the players often with vile comments then what loyalty can we expect of them?
101 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:50:55
If Fellaini want's to move on, fair play; 5 years at a club and nothing to show for it... so be it.
102 Posted 09/09/2012 at 21:47:10
It is your trainset, but are you letting comment 609 stay ?
103 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:05:57
What are seeing there, Ian, that I should pull?
104 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:09:13
105 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:05:23
I've seen him play and I think he's brilliant. I thought he'd move and he signed for 5-years citing the club took a chance on him and he owed us loyalty. I've seen fans get on his back especially when he first joined and I've never seen him hide. I thought he was our best player in the cup final although I've seen him go missing in most derbies.
I love him playing for us, he's class, a good player, and an entertainer, and I don't for one minute pay attention to or believe the quotes attributed to him. He'd have to be an idiot to say what he supposedly said and I think he's an intelligent kid.
106 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:06:51
107 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:15:58
Bill's been called many things by fans who don't buy into the luuvy stuff... I'm not sure this is all that different to those claiming (apparently without foundation) that he is creaming money out of the club.
If there is trouble, though, it will be redirected to James Morgan; he's responsible for posting it. Part of the reason we require real names and active e.mail addresses...
108 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:15:05
DM: "Marouane, what the fuck are you playing at? You are one of my best assets and a big part of my plans here for the future."
MF: "Like you give a shit, gaffer you haven't signed a new contract, you'll be off in the summer unless we get bought out, or by some miracle qualify for the Champions League"
DM: "Shhhhhhh!! Big Gob!!, Once that Villas Boas cocks up again, I'll be right in there. Make a statement saying it's a load a bollox big misunderstanding, get your head down, keep your form good and you can be my first signing, big perm!!"
109 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:30:12
110 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:27:21
As to Fellaini, regardless of what he's said or alleged to have said, I can't believe there are people on here claiming we wouldn't miss him, he's not even that good etc. He's our best player, a potentially world-class footballer. Personally I was slightly amazed we held on to him this summer. Depressing possibly, but true.
111 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:51:34
@Everton Guys, just want to remind you that I'm very happy in Everton and now very concentrated for national team game! Thanks
Felaini tweeted 53 minutes ago
112 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:51:58
113 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:55:26
114 Posted 09/09/2012 at 22:59:07
115 Posted 09/09/2012 at 23:00:42
I've read about Heitinga being unsettled and now it's Fellaini. These players do not join EFC out of any love for the club, its a career move.
I can speak from 'REAL' experience having spent more than 25 years of my working life abroad. They come here firstly to advance their salaries and then to be in the shop window to the highest bidder. The ONLY players with loyalty to a club are home grown.
Let's face it... English is not their first language and they are ambitious!! I hope I have made my point... we should be hanging on for dear life to Baines, Jagielka etc and build the team around them.
116 Posted 09/09/2012 at 23:15:51
I accept that even these quotes don't give any guarantees he is totally committed and won't consider his future next summer but it really annoyed me before how many of you got on his back before there was even any official confirmation. Some people are far too quick to have their say even when nothing was proven!
117 Posted 09/09/2012 at 23:22:03
Just asking. I need to know coz I have a brill, Norman Wisdom funny, side-splitting, on the nail, Bletchley Park smart one-liner/moniker up my sleeve about that fucking crook. Oops.
118 Posted 09/09/2012 at 23:42:45
And to think we demand loyalty!
119 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:02:22
120 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:02:55
121 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:01:32
That he could leave, I get. We have the same ownership group sold Rooney.
But that he'd freely state he's leaving, in some National Team media Q&A? Baffling.
Interested to find out how the original article "quoted" him.
122 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:06:53
And, how do you know that big Belgo was misquoted by rat-race journo? Were you there? Has MF said anything today to allay any concerns we might or any concerns that he might have about having words put in his mouth? Big fucking NO!!!
"I will play for Everton where I am happy until the end of the season." Now, tell me, is there a single word in all of that to contradict original report/post? You know the answer: big fucking NO!!!
The moral of this? Get it right, think before you write, don't characterize and summarize things until you are sure you have got it absolutely spot on. Keep mum if you are not sure that you have done these things.
A shoddy on-my-high-chair head-in-the-sand Hoare post. Hang on, – sorry – ought to have read: 'another 'shoddy on-my-high-chair head-in-the-sand Hoare post'.
123 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:15:13
If, as you suggest, we have a few Champions League quality players, do you not think that, well paid as they are, some sense of loyalty to their team mates and supporters would entice them to stick here and give it a proper go?
Also, for some strange and slightly endearing reason, Premier League footballers seem to believe that, if they can't see us, then, like a toddler playing hide and go seek, we can't see them.
124 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:20:32
125 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:12:50
We already knew what's coming once Rodwell's contract was announced. Fella on £70k, Rodwell on £100k?
Fella only had to keep up his play this season then sit home sorting thru the invites piling up at his doorstep.
We'll have to see the origins of this story and I'm willing to wait.
126 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:25:06
£30M min + and they pay any add-ons to Standard... Deal!!!
127 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:43:34
128 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:24:30
Tom Dodds.... I wasn't actually getting into another debate on Bill or his Board. I just thing the rhetoric needs calming down a bit as its turning off even those who want to understand the position better and it somehow continues to come across as schoolyard, which surely can't help ? In any event my position on Bill stopped being "apologist" a long time ago, not that I felt it deserved the tag. But I don't hate him, don't abuse him and tho I've little time for his friend Mr Earl I can't see how making up silly names for Bills mates, like "Mr Whippy" get anyone's views across. I will probably annoy you even more by saying I rate Robert Elstone highly and think the new comms guy is at least trying to debate the issues, tho he may have got a couple of things wrong recently. But none of this should be read as saying that those of us not in the Blue Union fail to see the financial woes or the impact now and in the future.
Anyway, getting back on thread, I have read Fellani's twitter and FB stuff and it's all very nice but feels horribly like "mission accomplished" as another poster said. So here's the thing, if that newspaper has utterly lied and blatently misquoted Fellani to in effect create a complete falsehood and damage the guys reputation, then I assume Fellani will say so and take a bit of legal action of his own, won't he ?
Yet I can't see anything but mild surprise in Fellani's "who me" statement and certainly not indignant outrage at such lies ?
129 Posted 10/09/2012 at 00:59:35
Just kick ass this season, son. I'll settle for that.
130 Posted 10/09/2012 at 01:08:27
131 Posted 10/09/2012 at 01:15:50
http://twitter.com/fellainiM
132 Posted 10/09/2012 at 01:27:33
133 Posted 10/09/2012 at 02:05:03
Under contract for 5 years so, £30mill next Summer?
Don't believe a word written these days at all though. Fucking soap opera.
134 Posted 10/09/2012 at 03:06:48
It is very hard to take anything seriously these days but, even if it is true that Fella wants to leave, then Moyes should make him play in the reserves until the right offer comes in. With his mind distracted, he wil be of little use to Everton and Moyes should play someone else more dedicated to the cause.
Sure, Fella is playing better... but I believe it is partially down to great contributions by several other players. We will find out soon enough by his performances in the next few games.
135 Posted 10/09/2012 at 02:20:39
136 Posted 10/09/2012 at 04:04:24
Until he leaves, he's an Everton player, and a damn good one at that. And if he does leave in the near future, the £25-30 million we'll receive for him should make our squad one of the deepest in the prem, considering what Moyes cooked up after the Rodwell sale.
Whichever way it shakes out, I really don't see that many negatives. If we keep him, we continue to be a dangerous team. If we sell him, we buy more players to replace him, fill our holes at center midfield and right back, and become a deeper team. I don't see what the fuss is about.
137 Posted 10/09/2012 at 03:51:54
A few months later he went AWOL to film a Coca Cola ad in Portugal. Then he went off to the Euros a blue, with all us proud Evertonians cheering him on. During the summer break he and his scumbag agent engineered a move without the club's knowledge, keeping quiet until it was too late for us to spend the measly drip fed cut-price we had to accept. His agent got more than the club over the next few years in merchandising etc.
Then he scores against us and runs over to our fans kissing the Man Utd badge. At the time, everyone on Merseyside - except his family - hated him, I bet that included yourself. He releases a book slagging our manager and staff, unjustly as the court case proved. Now, after giving his best years to a club we detest, you forgive him for disrespecting EFC and would welcome him back "in a heartbeat?".
Well my heart pumps Royal Blue blood and I have too much self-respect to lower myself by cheering on that granny shagging snide. To cap it all, you don't have a clue about recent football news. If you'd read my earlier post properly, you'd know that he attended a press conference a few days ago to apologise for treating MUFC with disrespect by asking for a transfer a couple of years back, and said he wants to end his career at OT.
So where is the apology to the club he supported as a boy? Wake up and smell the toffee, our club just keeps getting shat on by gobshites like him. The only good report lately was the praise heaped on Everton by Straq, and he never supported the club
138 Posted 10/09/2012 at 04:32:12
££££££££££££££££
139 Posted 10/09/2012 at 04:40:28
140 Posted 10/09/2012 at 04:21:10
He is obviously a tall guy, so that does put the fear into a lot of physically smaller men... and occasionally he is very strong in the air, but I don't see this amazingly skilled central midfield player that every one else seems to see; I think we would easily cope without him.
Maybe young Ross, who looks like a very good prospect, could step up to the plate alongside Gibson who I feel has really allowed Fellaini to shine, a fact which most people have overlooked.
141 Posted 10/09/2012 at 05:03:12
Straq article attached, top man.
143 Posted 10/09/2012 at 07:11:22
This fella has a short memory the shite he turned in last season before the arrival of Gibson was awfull, plus the teams results were better in previous seasons when he was injured.
No doubt Felliani has potential and quality but unless he can keep the Man Utd type performances going which he has failed to do since he signed, which top club would buy him to use up top as a type of target man?
Lets be realistic if Felliani had produced year in year out top clubs would have been banging the door down, the fact is his performances have been no where near that of a 30m midfielder playing consistently at the top of his game.
144 Posted 10/09/2012 at 07:33:23
You say no-one on this thread has called MF useless but about 5 comments in we have:
'Who gives a flying? Vastly overrated, inconsistent and an arrogant piece of sh*t off the field'
Followed swiftly by
'Good riddance, £30million please.'
And then:
'The most overrated player to play for us in recent times. I was devastated when Arteta left and sad when Cahill did, I‘ll be overjoyed when Fellaini leaves.
Everything was going so right at Everton until he joined, the player to supposedly take us forward set us back. He craps out of every derby game as well.'
As for him being misquoted read this later direct quote from him '"I was very surprised to read in some newspapers that I will leave Everton very soon and perhaps next January. Let me remind you that I am very happy in Liverpool and our start of the championship was good.'
So can I suggest you follow your own advice and actually have a look at the information to hand before you come on here and accuse other people of being ill-informed or else you will look like a bit of a hypocritical git!
145 Posted 10/09/2012 at 08:02:46
thanks for pointing those out Sam.. man some people can lose all sense of rationality at the drop of a hat!
146 Posted 10/09/2012 at 08:05:14
147 Posted 10/09/2012 at 07:58:52
Didn't he say Rooney wouldn't be sold for any less than £50m?
I'm sure there is something called free speech anyway and I haven't made any particular allegation against BK with specifics of 'dealings.'
I could also say Steven Gerrard is a gob shite.
I'd like to see whats on the United message boards against the Glazers, or Rovers against Venkys/Keen!
Anyway, I digress. I see Fellaini has come out to dismiss these reports as crap. Interesting to see his reception against Newcastle.
148 Posted 10/09/2012 at 08:46:29
149 Posted 10/09/2012 at 08:57:24
"Let me remind you that I am very happy in Liverpool and our start of the championship was good.
"I was very surprised to read in some newspapers that I will leave Everton very soon and perhaps next January."
Glad I wasn't on Toffeeweb over the weekend or I'd be feeling a bit silly this morning too !
150 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:00:33
151 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:02:33
I think he might get benched after a fee with one of the 'big' clubs has been agreed for January, or he will apologise and it will be a storm in a tea cup.
152 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:15:26
The bile some people just wait for an opportunity to post on this site......
I come here for a different opinion, but this is just too much.
153 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:18:39
154 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:13:56
I'd love to know (like other posters on here) what his best position is because, let's face it, not even his own manager knows. I'm certain there won't be a bidding war because I don't think enough BIG HITTERS *cough* will come in for him. Quite frankly, imo he's vastly overrated.
155 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:17:59
Personally I don't think he's that good although he's had a few good games for us.
156 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:25:38
I'm just wondering if there will be a few murmurings and grumbles in the crowd.
157 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:35:46
What it translates to is, "I think I deserve some medals on my dresser so I am moving somewhere where I will definitely win something" Ambition.....not a chance.
158 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:27:30
Best post I've read on here and totally right.
159 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:36:59
160 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:31:22
161 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:42:18
There is no free speech in the UK and where there is free speech it has to come with the responsibility to use it sensibly. I personally would sue you if were BK.
Prove that BK said that he wouldn't sell Rooney for >J50.0 MM and what if he changed his mind anyway, free speech and all that.
162 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:42:49
Have I been suckered by yet another fake page? probably.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Marouane-Fellaini/100567087766
163 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:50:58
As for his retraction/denial... well, it's not really a retraction is it... "I never said any of that, I'm gonna sue the pants of those crappy hacks" — now that's a denial..
164 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:58:33
165 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:58:17
166 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:58:05
The only thing that is surprising is that he was so open with a journalist. Most probably he was a bit naive, and said some unguarded things to a 'friendly' journalist that he thought were off the record. Lesson learned buddy.
167 Posted 10/09/2012 at 10:03:09
For a start, I did say I shouldn't have said Billy 'Crook' but I think that's pretty mild compared to some of the vitriol spouted on here, wouldn't you agree?
As for suing, get a grip lad, he'd be up to his specs and then some with lawsuits if he sued everyone who said anything remotely bad about him. I don't recall saying 'Bill did x and y and broke the law etc'
Not much weight to suing someone from what I said is there?
Can we get back to talking about Fellaini now?
168 Posted 10/09/2012 at 10:35:40
Sometimes people do sue just to make an example of somebody and to deter others. Robert Maxwell was a f*cker for it. Just shows what a bloody great guy Bill is.
169 Posted 10/09/2012 at 10:42:32
It does make you wonder what goes on during the international breaks? There is absolutley nothing to stop his agent and the player from meeting other clubs representatives. It's happened before and will happen again. Of course I am speculating but it does go on.
Lescott's quote about being an 'excited fan' of Man City 6 months before his move was a clear strategy designed to manufacture the move. I think the tapping up side of it is why Moyes dug his heels in then.
Lessons are learned though I would expect if there is a serious buyer out there a deal will be sorted at the right price in January or the summer. Moyes will then do what he does best, he will make us better with the proceeds.
We all need to accept the way of things. The same process will happen with Jelavic and Mirallas if he is good enough, simple as. It will stay that way until the finances change.
170 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:02:19
Surely Toffeeweb should follow suit, or at least insert one of those "Update" sub-headings. We wouldn't want the site to be accused of being negative or only telling the controversial side of the story.
171 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:00:56
Does anybody else think international breaks at this point in the season is just ridiculous?
172 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:04:03
Fellaini has seen his Belgian team mates join clubs that are playing in the CL and also have genuine chances of winning league's and cups. I personally don't think he would have signed a new contract with us unless it suited him to do so – in other words, I believe a deal has been done that will benefit both him and hopefully us.
When I watched Fellaini against Man Utd, I could not help thinking he was out to impress, and given at that stage there were still 9 or 10 days left in the transfer window, the cynic in me said "He is playing for a move". The same could be said for the Villa game. And then the transfer window closes and he was just okay at West Brom!
Fellaini has allegedly said "I have seen everything", presumably referring to Everton. What could he be referring to?... Broken promises etc etc etc... I am not all surprised he would want to leave Everton..
173 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:29:19
174 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:27:08
Reading the many many comments on here I admit I didnt do an historical review of opinion, just based it on overall sentiment.
175 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:23:28
If he does go, I look forward to who next our scouting network identifies. We have become a stepping stone for players under this ownership regime. Until that changes, we have to get used to it.
176 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:41:45
177 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:51:17
178 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:54:53
179 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:58:40
What's wrong with these people!!!!!!!
180 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:21:29
181 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:11:21
I seem to remember a certain Keith Wyness promoting his services to another employer while employed by Everton. He was sacked, no messing.
182 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:17:48
He has not said he is staying with Everton until his present contract expires.
He said he is happy - I would be happy on £70k a week as well !!
No problem with any player showing ambition, but show some respect to the club who are making you their highest paid player.
183 Posted 10/09/2012 at 11:50:19
184 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:34:08
He has given us five years.
His Dad has been in his earhole for ages saying, 'move on' (and we all know this from previous publicity).
He will want to test himself at the very top (i.e. CL) and to quote the words of one former Croxteth resident, "With respect, that won't be at Everton."
If we were able to compete in the CL then things might just change. But competing in the CL is a long shot at Goodison without an injection of capital. And Bill doesn't have the money, as he keep telling us. And so we go on.
When's our next game?
185 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:29:26
186 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:33:59
The laws of libel/ slander may seem a very long way from the happygolucky/tongue in cheek postings made on these boards but one day someone is going to get unstuck. One day the worm will turn.
JM Stop digging your grave mate - pack it in and give us all a rest.
187 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:57:20
Has anybody ever accused you of being humourless?
188 Posted 10/09/2012 at 09:19:56
Lets hope this doesn't knock Felliani and he can keep producing outstanding displays and prove that he is in the 30m bracket.
There can be little doubt that if a top club playing Champions league football year upon year comes in for any of are players they would have to seriously consider the offer. Lets hope Felliani and the rest of the squad can challenge for these places but much higher consistency has to be achieved out on the pitch over a longer period imo.
189 Posted 10/09/2012 at 12:54:28
We're quite happy to have our clubs fork over the coin for expensive foreign mercenaries, to compete with the biggest clubs; that being the case, we have to accept that our foreign mercenaries owe us no special loyalty. When their profile gets big enough, they will move on for brighter lights and bigger salaries, and there's no point crying about it.
Fellaini's only mistake was to be unguarded in his comments. That was dumb, and needlessly hurtful, even though he was only saying to the wrong person what we all should have well known he was thinking.
Also, for what it's worth, he has already come out with a denial. It's meaningless of course, but at least he's playing the PR game now.
190 Posted 10/09/2012 at 13:04:32
Two fish in a tank. One turns around and asks, "How do you drive this?"
191 Posted 10/09/2012 at 13:05:45
I think there are a few factors for these players...
1, When Everton going to get in the top 4?
2, Am I selling myself short for every year I am not in the CL?
3, How many more seasons do I have as a top pro?
I think those are questions are right and proper for any top line footballer and Everton can only do so much for a players potential if No.1 is no time soon.
This season is important because without top 4, it could mean adios to Moyes, Baines, Fallaini, Heitinga, Jelavic... the list goes on. And Mirallas would be off too if he sets the Prem alight.
192 Posted 10/09/2012 at 13:34:01
Before you decided to stick your two penneth in you might have cared to look at two of my previous posts trying to get away from the BK debate.
One off-the-cuff line appears to be getting slightly snowballed by people like you.
193 Posted 10/09/2012 at 14:03:49
That bloody well explains everything. I don't get it :-)
194 Posted 10/09/2012 at 13:36:19
On the upside if he keeps playing well we might get good money for him. We are a selling club and no surprises anymore for me.
195 Posted 10/09/2012 at 14:13:28
196 Posted 10/09/2012 at 14:05:17
EFC are where they are because as a club we were totally underfinanced to withstand the maelstrom that hit soccer. As fans, most of us are only just beginning to realise that loyalty has gone forever and the shock is that we fans have stayed loyal when players and even the privatised clubs themselves have no links to us. We have become influenceless customers and yet we are still loyal as mainly working class people who still have fantastic tribal support for our club and players even though any pretentions they have as working class entities are long gone.
I sometimes ask myself why I pay a Sky subscription and pay a lot of money to go to the match now and again to pay for the lavish lifestyle of the EPL players – and by that I include management and agents. I think I carry on supporting EFC because we do so well when we shouldn't; because we have an eccentric peniless chairman; because we aren't franchised or in the grips of a paymaster with no connection to club, area or fanbase that could disappear when he wants; because we pay our overpaid players less than other overpaid players.
One day soon I may stop but in the meantime the last thing that I'll expect is loyalty from any of our players. I guess Timmy Cahill was the last of the Corinthians – or was he just a mercenary too?
197 Posted 10/09/2012 at 14:31:18
I fear it may be too late. Maybe if Fifa 10 years ago said a player could earn no more than say £80k per week across all the associations, we wouldn't be where we are now.
If they did it now there is no way you could cut all these massive £250k salaries down or even freeze them, and if they even did the latter we would still be way behind until a multi billionaire replaces BILL KENWRIGHT... ;)
I'm not sure financial fair play will help either; it will probably play in to the hands of the big turnover clubs.
198 Posted 10/09/2012 at 14:45:55
199 Posted 10/09/2012 at 14:58:49
And again, there is zilch in what you quote from Fella to contradict anything in the original report, absolutely zilch
200 Posted 10/09/2012 at 15:20:42
So you're argument hangs on the fact that people might not have used the actual word 'useless'! Right. They just said that he was over-rated, inconsistent and that he had taken our team backwards? That's a watertight argument that one Paul! Right out of the Peter Barry handbook.
As for the contradiction let me show you carefully.
First report say: 'I have seen everything. In January or at the end of the season I will turn to another club or championship.'
Second report says: I was very surprised to read in some newspapers that I will leave Everton very soon and perhaps next January. Let me remind you that I am very happy in Liverpool and our start of the championship was good.
The second report (from the actual player) quite clearly calls the accuracy/source of the first report into question.
Of course it may be that MF is telling porkies, time will tell. But rather than take second hand foreign tabloid gossip as gospel I would rather place some trust in our players until proven wrong. You're more than welcome to you indignation of course.
201 Posted 10/09/2012 at 15:22:11
Let's just enjoy him while he is still here and stop slagging him off but I know that won't happen.
202 Posted 10/09/2012 at 16:30:55
Now, I know that pedantry hovers here, but the big Belgo would need to say that this is total crap from first to last and he has not because he has not spoken about the time at the end of this season, the very time when the report suggests that his head will be turned elsewhere.
I don't begrudge the guy his ambition. He is nowhere near as good as he and pop and some on here seem to think he is. He, like many others in his profession, have done mind-games before.
If he is decked out in blue and white this time next year with our badge on it then I will be seen to be wrong. Right now, I suspect, MF is maneuvering, putting the feelers out, searching, and at one and the same time, trying to put the best face on for us lot. Not the first to do this, I know where it will all end up and so, I think, do you.
And, by the way, if it is all crap, then why doesn't the big fella sue the bastard.
203 Posted 10/09/2012 at 15:39:14
However, there are a variety of financial and drafting penalties connected to going over the agreed cap that can (and do) affect teams' ability to field a balanced, competitive side.
What it also doesn't prevent is reckless, who-gives-a-shit owners from throwing their money around on players not worth it. That never goes away.
It'll be good to see a cap system come into play over there, but it'll still boil down to good ownership.
204 Posted 10/09/2012 at 16:50:26
205 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:03:39
Does anybody know if Croatia vs Belgium is on tv tomorrow?
206 Posted 10/09/2012 at 16:36:01
Can you not see that?
207 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:00:17
208 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:11:10
My opinion is that he may have said something off the record about his future but he has been deliberately and provocatively misquoted which is why he says he was suprised to see it. If he had said that deliberately to an official source then why would he be surprised?!
I think you're right in that he may have been a bit foolish ans said something a little vague to someone who he shouldn't have but the whole thing has been overblown.
He has come out publicly to say that he is happy at Everton and so I don't see any reason to drop one of our most crucial players.
209 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:01:31
Perhaps he was trying to play the big "I am" for his local journos but more likely he is just your typical thick, mercenary player whose only loyalty is to himself (and his dad of course).
210 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:18:53
211 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:26:38
212 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:43:17
Why so many people feel the need to vilify him is beyond my comprehension. We have some strange ideas on how to show our loyalty!!!
213 Posted 10/09/2012 at 17:52:10
Fellaini is doing his best to cover his tracks seeing as he has no choice but to stay here till the new year. It would have been easy to say he didn't make those comments but he didn't.
Dean
I'm not sure but if he was giving an interview to a Belgium journalist I think its safe to assume Fellaini was speaking in his native tongue.
214 Posted 10/09/2012 at 18:05:29
I can't understand it when players say they want to go out and win trophies. If I was a footballer, I'd want to be known as a classy guy who was a smashing player and nothing else. Trophies and hell. Nobody counts.
215 Posted 10/09/2012 at 18:28:16
216 Posted 10/09/2012 at 18:35:40
217 Posted 10/09/2012 at 18:53:08
218 Posted 10/09/2012 at 18:56:48
219 Posted 10/09/2012 at 19:37:22
Sounds like he's going to the dark side to me.
Mwaaahahahahaha!!
In all seriousness, I stopped worshipping Everton players a long time ago. It doesn't bother me anymore when I hear shit like this. I expect it.
Pretty funny thread when you compare some of the things being said about Fellaini after the Man Utd game to some of the things being said above. (by the same people too).
220 Posted 10/09/2012 at 20:05:30
However, there is clearly something fishy going on as he is surely not so stupid as to come out saying he wants to leave just after the transfer window slams shut.
Wether he was misquoted, speaking off the record, or had nailed a few Belgian beers is speculation but his qualifying comments at least throw some doubt on the matter. As much as he could have denied he might as well have admitted them. He seems to have fallen in between and I guess reaction is a personal choice.
For me he is our best player and while he is still here and claims to be happy I would rather back him and hope he can lead us to some sort of success, even if I accept that our top players are always likely to be considering their options while we remain out of Europe.
221 Posted 10/09/2012 at 21:50:07
222 Posted 10/09/2012 at 22:33:52
Fellaini sought to diffuse the comments, which it is understood he does not deny saying during a press conference after training with his national side in Anderlecht on Saturday.Not gospel... but pretty telling, don't you think? Or are the Press Association making it up as well?
223 Posted 11/09/2012 at 04:36:39
224 Posted 12/09/2012 at 02:37:25
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