Fellaini still wants Champions League

Fellaini's interview is a shout for the hard of understanding.

They do their best and, every time there is a comment or statement made by a player, you post rubbish like that.

Sometimes it's embarrassing to be an Everton supporter when people like you spout this rubbish. You have no idea whatsoever how stupid your post is.

He has however been immense for us this season; whether he stays or goes, we can't complain that he is sulking like he could have done.

Only Everton could be in a situation where we have our best team in eons and at the same time have uncertainty over the Manager and Star players. I can never remember a time when BK was so quiet – not even an appearance on Football Focus... has he gone all camera-shy?

To be honest, I hope we get as many points in the bag as possible before the Transfer Window as it seems there will be activity and not all of it good.

DM is certainly going about things in the same manner as SAF; after all, they seem to go behind in every match they play... but generally come back to win.

DM and MF to Man Utd? I hope not... but I wouldn't rule it out.

Hammering Reading next week will be our next priority, it's only a matter of time before Jelavic and Mirallas hit their "Top form", it's exciting times.

He certainly is playing out of his skin for us, and who knows, he may get his wish of Champions League football.... with Everton!

If Rodwell is worth £12M, than Felli is worth at least £25M. Sell him and reinvest in the team and fill out the roster with quality so that we can have some depth!!

We can make some major inroads with £25M (especially with Neville, Distin and Hibbert getting older with no chance of selling them and recouping money).

On the other hand he's playing so well his price tag must be rising and as Chris says, we need to replace a few older players.

There is no loyalty involved from either party and as fans we have to expect that players will make choices as will the clubs. He is ambitious and wants the best for himself and the club, in that order. These days, who can blame him? If we don't make CL then cash in and move on.

Dodgy knees I hear... so we may be able to pick him up for around £5.5 million, name of LeScott or something like that?

More than one way to interpret his comments.

Felli knows this is the strongest team we have had since his big money arrival all those years ago and he would be with us come the start of next season if we qualify for the CL

If we don’t qualify, then he leaves us… I would be expecting £30/£40m! + If recent transfer fees are to go by. Hazzard, Caroll, Allen, Downing, Henderson etc.

Felli is three / four times the player Rodwell is… So that would be three or four times the transfer fee please… no less.

50% to the bank to pay the never decreasing debt – is it just me, every time the debt is mentioned it is always around £45m??

I would be excited to see what Moyes could do with £15/£20m in his pocket, but also pretty disappointed we lost a really good player…

1. He wants to play CL – fair enough
2. He wants to win something – good
3. He would like to win something this season with Everton – good
4. He would like to play CL with Everton if possible – good
5. If Everton do not qualify, he wants to play CL so may have to move – is that not fair enough? He is a CL quality player after all...

I don't think he has said anything wrong; if we don't qualify this season and he moves in the summer, then good luck to him – he will have given us good service, will leave us as a better team than when he arrived and we will also probably have made a £15M profit on him.

If he was to go I'd want 30 mil plus and if it's true Chelsea are interested then I'd want Marco Marin thrown into the deal.

By way of contribution the annual wage increase is unsustainable. Professional football can only implode if this continues. Either that or we'll be left with only Chelsea, Citeh and Utd playing each other every week because every other team will have gone pop. Not withstanding the obscenity of earning more in a week what the majority of supporters earn in a year.

Does anyone know how these financial fair play rules work, and if they're making any difference?

Maybe(?) we can hold off till season end. We did well getting him to sign that long-term deal in the first place so we are covered. Have to credit the club, the pulled off a blinder.

Obviously I hope we can keep him till then and really have ago at it.

Dream scenario & we managed to get fourth, he will still go anyway as it appears established Champions League sides may be interested.

That's okay for me. We will have maximised everything we can out of it, Fellaini gets his move and we trouser the cash and add young developing players, maybe some quality & some depth. Moyes is in a very good phase in the market right now.

If he is off in January we will have to adapt. Difficult market in January; we still have Jelavic and Mirallas, we can still progress, you cant rush thing they have to be the right players. We will be fine whatever happens.

Conversely, the thought of the manager leaving at the season end is genuinely scary.

I must admit it’s difficult to see where and how Fellani would fit into either team, he’s certainly not an Arsenal-type player and Chelsea play 3 in midfield rather than 4 with 1 off the front. But Fellani is a great player and all great players wants CL football, nothing wrong in that-let’s hope it’s with us.

Bobby (#113) – they are your (negative) take on things, not facts.

David (#133) – why would he go to Arsenal when everyone else is leaving and they are in serious danger of dropping off the CL gravy train.

Last time I checked, we were 4th and playing well. I trust DM to shore up the defence and we apparently still have three or four quid left from the Rodwell money to strengthen in January.

Apart from Mirallas getting injured we are in the best shape for years, I personally believe Fellaini will stay for at least the rest of the season unless ridiculous money comes in (which means City, Real, Barcelona or Chelsea) and if we miss the chance to do as well as we can, well, at least we can say we had a bloody good go.

Lets not all down the man for being truthfull about his desires, after all he is young still at the moment but within a couple of years he will hitting his peak. Lets hope that at that time its still with us.
NSNO.

Felli was really pushed and pushed by the interviewer and I'm not sure what he could have said in fairness to him. He said he wasnt looking to leave at the moment but champions league he wants at some point in his career.

I think that's fair enough to be honest. It certainly wasn't a come and buy me plea.

I'd hope all our players have aspirations and the guy is doing the business on the pitch. Hopefully he can do it here....

The form of Felli means he could take his pick of top european clubs including Madrid and Barca, he'd slot into both Manc clubs and Chelsea.

Unaccountability carries this price.

4th place? how about something more ambitious

If he does go , I can't see it happening in January for two reasons a) Usually the big deals happen so late in the window there is little or no time to buy replacements B) would Moyes be given the money if he has still not signed a new contract.

I agree with those who say that at full strength we are a match for any team in the league, but the next six-eight weeks we will really see how our season is going.

As for some Blues wanting (and getting) the RS to get a point at Chelsea , I don't understand you, I want the RS to get nothing ever in any game at any level.

Also I want them to stay as far behind us as possible for as long as possible.

Get over yourself, my post was SO negative I highlighted how well the club did to get him on a long term deal, talked of the "dream scenario" of 4th and said we will be fine whatever happens as we still have good players and think that with any Felli cash we can strengthen and progress.

Fuck me what a downer!!

I also never said they were facts. Lets not get Masonworld.

As for the rest, I cant really be arsed.

Let me put it this way.

We are a club hoping to get into the qualifying rounds for the Champions League, not into the groups just into the qualifying round, and have no track record, at all, in the tournament.

Lets just say that an established Champions League Club meets or beats the transfer fee clause in his contract, in Jan or the season end, doesnt matter.

Then think about the clubs financial position of the club, how this board operates and the transfer policy of EFC over the last decade or so.

I will let you figure out what happens next.

He has been absolutely immense for us this season, one of the best in the league. If we do sell him, it would be for a hell of a lot of money. But we wont sell him in Jan, and I highly doubt we'd sell him in the summer. He's just being honest.

We'd get £30M minimum for him, and Moyes has proved first with the Lescott money (except for Bily) and with the Rodwell money that we can spend it really well.

So no worries for me, I just hope Fellaini carries on with these great performances.

No special info man, I'm not even the only person to mention it on this thread.

I've seen it reported a couple of times and I could well believe it. It wouldn't be inconceivable, the talks were protracted. Could also not be true.

That's all. Were having a conversation here, its an opinion, I gave a hypothetical.

I don't want Everton to sell him. I want him & Jelavic to fire us to the Champions League places and we go forward squad intact & add to it.

But if some high calibre European club starts waving £25/30 million at us then that, combined with Fellaini's various hints, makes me view the situation pragmatically. If we were looking at another club we would all be going... erm, yeah, he's well on his way sooner or later.

When a suitable club for him makes a suitable bid for us, then he will go... AND WE WILL BE FINE!! Seen it too many times now. Fellaini is hardly going to say that he wants to play Champions League football and he doesn't want that to be with us, is he? That would be pretty fucking stupid!!

I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't expect to see him here next year for reasons stated previously.

"They do their best"
Bearing in mind "they" have not given the club 1p of their own money in all the years "they" have been in control,you may want to have another think about calling posts stupid

"Let's be clear, he's off in January or season end" - Yes that's a "downer" and was treated as such. As for the rest of your tirade, I'll leave that with you.

To pick up your point, if an established Champions League team comes in... I think I dealt with that. He has a long contract, we aren't going to sell for less than £25m (generously) and only City, Chelsea or Madrid will spend that this year IMO.

Cheer up and enjoy it while you can, August and January are the seasons for paranoia and neurosis.

The FFP regulations are impacting on Chelsea. Paper comment at the weekend was that they needed to sell to buy. It can't, therefore, be any different with City. Someone had their eye on a S American who is demanding £5m a year after tax. FFP would prohibit that here but not, maybe in Spain.

I think that Fellaini's worth more than players who have fetched fortunes but it may be the game is changing. That won't benefit us now

By the way, who sanctioned going out on a loan limb to buy Fellaini, who do you think negotiated the long term contract?

As a club, we have done the right thing by pulling out all the stops to pay him top dollar and tie him to a long term contract. We have a really talented, strong player who barring serious injury will continue to drive us forward increasing his value game by game but more importantly getting us 3 points each week more often than not.

A bid will probably come in in January from a wealthier club and if that is sadly the case and the player wants to go we have to take it on the chin and ensure that we get top dollar for him and that the replacement(s) that we bring in enable the club to continue to move forward.

Love Fellaini, do not want to see him leave but no player is irreplaceable.

Now outside of England I am not sure about any club but what I do know is that a) there is little or no money beyond Barca and Real and b) the Premier League is where most players want to play.

So, will he go? Possibly... Who to? Someone that has the money and is prepared to change their style – and who is that?

In a nutshell he's put out some feelers, testing the water and waiting to see who bites. If we hear Di Matteo or Mancini saying how much they like him then worry but, if not, I suspect it's a little bit of smoke and mirrors at this stage. However if we don't get CL ourselves this year, then in the Summer he could be off to Russia.

If anyone saw the interview - and could see they inflections and the way he answered the questions that would help a lot as to understanding the lads mentality. As long as he's playing his ass off (even if it's for a transfer) then so be it. We are very good, however, the rest of the league are not, and I don't see why 4th can't be gained.

Marco Reus was signed for 14mill - if we could get 2 Reus' for 1 Fellaini I'd bite off Abramovich's arm and then take him out for a Russian cabbage soup.

1) How much the selling club wants to/is able to hold on to him
2) How much a buyer wants to purchase them.

If Fellaini were a Man Utd player, then £50M would probably be the fee... but ,given that Kenwright will be probably be doing the negotiating, I suspect we'll get closer to the £20-25M mark.

As for Fellaini, I'd wish him well if he left (except if he went to the RS). He's a top player who deserves to be competing for trophies. I'd like some of his ambitiousness to rub off on our manager, chairman and some of our other players if I'm honest. Too much accepting of all the things holding us back and not enough focus on how we can improve our lot.

Take one of Moyes's recent interviews where he basically said that he's now less fussed if someone like Fellaini left, compared to how he was in the past. Only an idiot would try to hold onto a quality player like that if they're surrounded by turds... where is the money going to come from to replace the shite?

Part of the job as a manager as I see it is to take your squad, work within a budget, sell players where needed and buy players where you can improve. Moyes in the past has treated selling his better players like leprosy, but just like in real life, you can't have everything when you've got a budget to stick to.

In fact I'd go further and say that Moyes should proactively be moving players on at the peak of their value, to generate funds and improve the squad. £8M for Saha anyone? Probably could've got rid of Cahill a year or so earlier too for a hefty fee.

Every Premier League player will want to play in the CL and, if they get the opportunity to do so, they will take it – regardless of whether that means a transfer or not.

What I remember reading was basically him saying that it really used to bother him, and he'd try to fight tooth and nail to keep them. Now he's much more pragmatic and willing to let them go, then use the funds to better the squad. I think he's learned from his experiences seeing how he's been able to reshape the squad every time a player has been sold for a lot of money.

Can't remember where the interview was, otherwise I'd link to it. When I read it, I just thought that is what any rational person should do by default....especially someone who calls himself a professional manager. All I can assume is that he he just thought the club would keep taking on more debt to increase his budget so he wouldn't have to sell to buy.