Neville Southall says Seamus Coleman can be one of Everton's 'best' players

Hate to disagree with a legend, but now we know why almost none of the top managers are former keepers.

But Coleman? No. As a back up right-mid? ok. But he can't defend. I'm bemused by Southall's, who presumably looks more at defenders than midfielders (as a goalie), opinion on this one.

I hope Moyes doesn't play Barkley because I dread to think of the comments he will get if he makes any mistakes.

The abuse some players get on here is really quite ridiculous. What is the point of it?

I hope be he learns from his mistakes and takes his chance at full back. He can be rash, his positional play is suspect, but he is a very good raiding right back/wing back.

We look more solid with Hibbo and Distin back in defence, but I would not give up on Seamus just yet. That said, when he does get his next chance, he's got to take it or we will need to cash in. Right back is a spot up for offers.

I still think he will make a pretty good right midfielder with more experience. I dread ever seeing him at right back again.

You can't have everything, people complained and criticised Moyes for being too defensive and Hibbert for not being good enough offensively; now Moyes is critcised for his team not being solid enough at the back. Coleman for not being good enough defensively. You have got to expect the balance of the team will be affected, and Coleman will improve with time so leave the kid alone and at least give him a season before digging the knife in after a couple of mistakes.

He isn't the best defensively but I'd pick him every time before Naismith on the right side.

For what it's worth, I think Coleman is a good player crucially with pace which is a rarity in our team. He's best at RB and offers a lot going forward. Defensively he's a good tackler but has yet to learn Hibbert's art of positional defending. If you could combine Hibbert and Coleman you'd probably have one of the league's best fullbacks – you'd probably have Leighton Baines.

But let's be clear, Coleman is our THIRD CHOICE right back, playing there only because of injuries to others, and there's a reason for that — he's terrible defensively. Ian, you're wrong... our best stretch of the season was with Hibbert at RB, and with Coleman there we have cooled off, largely because of the points Coleman has cost us with his errors.

In my opinion, Coleman will never be a competent Prem RB because he lacks not just the fundamentals, but the instincts. Ball-watching is an incurable disease. And when a defender has it, the only cure is to move him off defense... which Moyes did two years ago by making him a midfielder.

James, you're right, Coleman's a very good tackler with excellent speed. He needs both to catch up after he's caught out of position.

Coleman will never have the passing touch of a Baines, but with time I think he can be every bit as good a midfielder as Pienaar. At RB he's a heart attack in cleats.

Your most ridiculous comment has to be "Ballwatching is an incurable disease. And when a defender has it, the only cure is to move him off defense." I've seen many players written off on this site only to become some of our most important players a few years down the line and a lot of people eventually eating humble pie. I remember Baines getting similar treatment early on.

But Mike Walker was a 'keeper, and, oh.

Truth is though Coleman has cost us more than we've gained from him but it's good to see he's improved going forward and hopefully he learns from Hibbert as a adefender.

But yes in another game Neville had Bale in his back pocket with his defensive display but Colemen destroyed Bale with his attacking play the previous season.

I would dissagree that he has cost more than he has helped us gain in the time he has been at Everton, maybe this season, but over the course of the rest of the season i'm sure he will make up the difference, and he has made a good start by setting up the equaliser today, to help us to gain 3 points. I would say he has only cost us 3 points this season anyway. He seems to have gotten the blame for a couple of incidents which I would argue were the faut of others like Heitiger.

Remember a lot of the games he's played he's had Hibbert / Neville behind him until this season when they've both been out.

And this season has cost us some goals and losses rather than scoring them.

And yes he did have a good game today Colin, with nothing to do defensively which is where he's shown he's weak.

Fair enough if in your opinion he hasn't lived up to the hype, but he still has a lot of years ahead of him to change your mind; I personally think he has lived up to the hype. Some people went over the top saying Moyes didn't have a clue sending him out on loan to Blackpool and that he was better than Hibbert and Neville and should be starting. It has now been proven that Moyes knew better, but Moyes obviously thinks he is or will be good enough to make the RB position his own in the future.

Young inexperienced players are always going to make mistakes, that doesn't mean they should be written off after a bad run of form and a couple of mistakes. I still remember being one of the few people fighting the cause of Fellaini early on and the same is happening with Seamus. I smell humble pie in the oven.

Qualify that by sayin', I thought Cadamarteri was the next Pele.

"Some people went over the top saying Moyes didn't have a clue sending him out on loan to Blackpool and that he was better than Hibbert and Neville and should be starting. It has now been proven that Moyes knew better."

So you agree about the hype?

You can not judge someone off the back of a few performances and say they are amazing just as you cant write someone off because of a few poor performances, or a couple of mistakes.

It seems to be very rare that there is a middle ground on this site, its one extreme to the other. I remember people overhyping Rodwell saying he was going to be the next franz beckenbauer and I was attacked from all angles when I said he wont even be the next rio ferdinand and will be lucky to be the next Anton Ferdinand. Then I was attacked from all angles again when I said Fellaini had the potential to be one of the top players in the prem, I said give him another 3 or 4 years and wait till he reaches his prime and then judge. The same goes for Colemen.