Mirallas faces extended spell out injured

Maybe a possible solution would be to try young Barkley on the right hand side?

Moyes must also get those long term injury prone players off the books and free up some space in the sqaud.

Creativity will continue to be a big issue till we get him back and that might not be till February...

This squad cannot afford to have players like KM missing regularly.

The Donovan stuff in the papers today is simply the same interview from October RE hashed on a slow news day. When I read it then it left me feeling he's lost the drive and would struggle coming back into the higher tempo of the Prem. But with Mirallas out again I'm wondering if efforts are being made to persuade him to bob over for a couple of months.....so to speak !

Moyes is as ever depressing re the transfer window but he's always like this now and my gut feeling is that Johnny will go and with the £5m/£6m we will get for him there's three incomings on the card via loan deal and maybe one loan-with-summer-purchase-agreed ?

Personally I'd try to shift Victor as well but the guy is simply so injury prone I'm not sure anyone will pay the £3m Moyes will want, unless relegation threatened clubs are just desperate beyond words.....but for this to happen Victors current injury needs to clear up a lot quicker than its been taking so far.......shame as I think Moyes could do quite a lot with £8m/£9m from these sales of players we can afford to lose at this time.

I reckon the sheep cloning of the 90s prompted similar human experimentation in some bleak retreat in Plopisistan or wherever. Baines should boxed and sent – create a team based on his superior DNA.

We played Mirallas too early... we should not have taken the risk. The importance of the match got the better of us, and now we have lost one of our best performers for a good three weeks I expect.

We really really need to sign a right sided player in January. I think Donovan is very plausible, and my line of thinking re. the recent stories concerning his unlikely return is in agreement with Mark's. Unfortunately Mirallas's injury has come at the worse possible time, in view of the fixture congestion. Although perhaps Naismith's dogged play will come in handy in successive away matches to two of the worst footballing teams in the league? I am clutching at straws I know.

Remember the derby at Anfieid, where the Greek ended Fellaini's season, without incurring even a yellow?

Moyes's recent ire was raised, regarding bad decisions, not given or way. But these incidents are not isolated, there are many, week-in and week-out, presumably allowed to continue, so as not to be seen as persecution of a player deliberately setting out to inflict tackles, which are seriously career threatening .

My biggest worry is once you start with hamstring problems they always seem to reoccur on a regular basis, no matter how long you leave the recovery. Let's hope that Mirallas isn't plagued with this injury like so many before have been.

It looks like Coleman and Naismith on the right again unless Moyes splits Pienaar and Baines up and plays Oviedo.

Kevan and Gavin, you can't blame the scummy little bastard for this one. A kick in the ankle does not cause a pulled hamstring.

Don't want to be doom and gloom but as Moyes said we are going to have to be very careful with both – our squad is too threadbare to cope with 3-4 players out at once. I don't expect to see Mirallas back until mid-January and if weather is freezing they won't gamble on him – his pace is his asset and speedy lads need good hamstrings.

Cosmic.

We have NEVER had a strong bench and sometimes it has been positively woeful. Every side worth its salt has at least two decent players for every position. Some have four proven scorers in the striker position and can rotate freely according to how any game is going. We are getting by on a wing and a prayer !!

Just a quick scan of Wikipedia and you find:

"Messi was sidelined for six weeks following an injury on 4 March when he suffered a muscle tear in his left thigh during a Champions League match against Celtic FC. It was the fourth time in three seasons that Messi suffered this type of injury". Each of those injuries resulted in 3 months+ on the sidelines.

Granted this calendar year he has been pretty much ever present but I don't think the argument holds much water.

I mean even some absolute fuckwit tried to sue MacDonald's for making him fat... the list goes on.

Remember the derby at Anfield, where the Greek ended Fellaini's season, without incurring even a yellow?

Moyes's recent ire was raised, regarding bad decisions, not given or way. But these incidents are not isolated, there are many, week-in & week-out, presumably allowed to continue, so as not to be seen as persecution, of a player deliberately setting out, to inflict tackles, which are seriously career threatening .

As I remember it, the Greek didn't even get a yellow. However, he didn't seem to be a repeat offender like Ratboy.

How many victims must there be before something is done about him?

Or better still — TO him!

We'll probably see Naismith on the right again in front of Coleman for the next few weeks.

Does anyone know anything about Mirallas fitness record prior to joining us?

That you are even contemplating a possibility is a credit to you, a possible outcome is great to speculate upon and here is to hoping we get there and if we have managed to get to challenge ourselves against the very best, in the CL, then I will be alongside you thanking the mentioned WK.

I wouldn't break up the Baines/Pienaar axis on the left, its our most creative partnership and in my opinion the best left sided partnership in the league. I would also be doing my level best to try and get Donovan back, preferably on a permanent basis.

I reckon that young Villa team will do really well next season if they stay together, they contained Liverpool throughout the match and Benteke was a constant thorn in their side.

If we have no 'real' dosh to give to Moyesy then our scouts need to get their fingers out because the youngsters we have do not look up to scratch.

Oh and we don't have more injuries than other clubs. The facts simply do not support this assertion.

Look at the injury table in the physio room website - we have been in the bottom 2 or 3 all season. We started against Spurs with our first XI - a pretty rare occurence for any team nowadays - hardly the sign of an injury crisis. Currently we are only one first team player down (at least due to injuries).