Everton slip down to 7th place

Ralph Basnett
1 Posted 10/03/2013 at 17:45:33

Oooops, forget 6th, the Shite are on a roller and will stop at nothing to make 4th, laugh at us and our shit management, team, stadium, etc and Moyes will say "We got to 40 points – happy days".

Paul Ferry
2 Posted 10/03/2013 at 17:46:44

7th now, and the on-form better-than-us-at-this-point-in-time Baggies are licking their lips thinking of lofty heights 7th. Don't worry though, 7th is the new 6th, the push is on for 4th.

Nick Entwistle
3 Posted 10/03/2013 at 17:51:45

Apparently a foul on Suarez. Hmmm, will have to take a look at that 'foul' on MotD2.

Patrick Murphy
4 Posted 10/03/2013 at 17:56:38

According to Clive Tydsley that's a good result for Chelsea, I can see the Dark Side overtaking Chelsea and sneaking 4th.

Sam Hoare
5 Posted 10/03/2013 at 17:53:22

Not much doubt in my mind that we are on course to finish 7th-9th this season, and possibly with an Anfield drubbing to boot. Hopefully not but would not bet against it.

I would not be unhappy to see Moyes leave this Summer, but that's probably mainly due to boredom rather then the belief that his successor would be guaranteed to do a better job. The horrible truth is that 9th is probably about where we belong in relation to our financial strength.

Dave Charles
6 Posted 10/03/2013 at 17:58:37

Good, we don't need Europe League football, we can't cope with with the League Cup and FA Cup as it is.

Ste Traverse
7 Posted 10/03/2013 at 17:59:56

The fucking stupid pretenders from Tottenham gave the RS 2 goals.

Dean Adams
9 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:01:25

Patrick Murphy - you really think they can close a 7 point deficit? Chelsea maybe having a poor season by thier standards, but they aint no Everton!!

Mike Price
11 Posted 10/03/2013 at 17:59:52

Being a very bitter blue I get more pleasure out of RS failure than just about anything else these days, so not a good weekend. I really hope they get 5th, end up in the Europa League which is a poisoned chalice for teams trying to get in the CL and that will fuck up next season for them too.

Mike Green
12 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:02:10

Football-wise, a weekend to forget.

John Ford
13 Posted 10/03/2013 at 17:58:04

Dissapointing. We're about where we should in terms our play this season and strength of squad. We'll do well to get any higher than we are today especially as Spurs and Liverpool are on their game at the moment

Only the money clubs above us, so we're our usual best of the rest. It's not that we've done badly but it's a real let down after showing we were a very capable team early season. A Failure to strengthen the squad in January when we were off colour was significant. Then again I really can't explain why or how our passing game disintegrated.

Patrick Murphy
14 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:04:54

I hope they don't but the dark side only have one thing to chase, Spurs have two and Chelsea have the possibility of three.

Bobby Mallon
15 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:04:23

Fucking worst weekend I have had for years. We get duffed by Wigan wooly backs and the Shite win and go ahead of us with Spurs gifting them 2 fucking goals. I really don't want to go to work tomorrow and have to face the only two Liverpool and Wigan fans in Didcot.

Steve Sweeney
17 Posted 10/03/2013 at 17:29:30

I just watched the Shite beat Spurs... What the fuck were they doing??? 3-2 up with 3 mins injury time and yet they still attack, WTF don't they know, you get 11 men on the edge of your own penalty area and just hoof it as far up the field as possible!!!

What a tosspot that Brenda is... Oh fuck — they are above us now. Sometimes, Everton really really piss me off; this weekend is just another example.

John Ford
18 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:05:54

Sam H, Ive been thinking the same about Moyes. It's a lot to expect a manager to do what he's done in terms of consistent league positions, but it's all become pretty dull. Added to that his self determined 'I'll make my mind up in the summer' is really stinking the place out.

Tony Marsh
19 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:06:08

I agree, we can't cope with the Europa League and I can stand watching Everton lead by Moyes making fools of themselves in Europe.

As for the RedShite, I never got involved in the early season goading of them as I am too long in the tooth. I know how easy it is for Moyes to make his sides capitulate and how the RS have always left us looking like mugs over the years. All-in-all, just another brutal reminder of what a waster Moyes really is. Two teams Spurs and the RS played today — do any of you Moyes zealots think either of those clubs would have Osman or Neville anywhere near their first teams???

Mike Hughes
20 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:08:13

Mike #577

I am of a similar mind set.

Bad results for the Mighty Blues are usually largely compensated for by the RS getting stuffed – followed by the hilarity of the after-match phone-in.

What a crap weekend this has been. Bollocks to everything.

Andy Walker
21 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:14:23

Classic. We gift Wigan the crucial goal, and the RS get 2 goals gifted to them when they never looked like getting back.

Andy Walker
23 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:17:22

Tony 588, of course not but then they are rich, we are poor.

Paul Ferry
24 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:09:44

7th sshhhh, don't tell Entwistle. I still think he thinks were in his beloved 6th spot on which all things hang.

It's a dreary March Sunday, so I was going back through some sunny August stuff. Moyes gloating that this is the best squad of players he has had under his wing at EFC, What has gone so badly wrong? It's the same squad, right, the one many say is too small.

A crucial season to learn from and come up with credible changes. And yesterday will prove to be a pivotal day if we slumber on like this.

Self-inflicted wound, I know, but I'm gonna watch the match all the way through once more over here and see if I can see the bright no-need-to-worry notes that Entwistle, Doddy, and all the other IMWT parrots see.

Sam Hoare
25 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:20:23

Tony Marsh, didn't Redknapp bid for Neville last season or before? Otherwise Andy Walker answers your question.

Tony Marsh
26 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:21:36

Andy Walker, I could go to any Lower League side in the country and find two players who could better the gruesome duo of Osman and Neville. It wouldn't take much money to better them two jokers. We have better in the squad but they don't get a chance so what has money got to do with it? It's just another case of Moyes's Mishaps.

Patrick Murphy
27 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:24:21

Sam and we should have bit his hand off and took the money , the same when someone bid for Saha, but no we hung on to them for a touch too long and got nothing in return.

Ralph Basnett
28 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:22:47

We have all spent a lot of time analyzing the ups and downs of the season but t the end of the day we have fucked up against so called lesser teams, been scared by so calle better teams and not been supported by the owners in a proportionate fashion.

We have had opportunities to push on but have not taken them, had opportunities to blood youth and not taken it, as supporters not really played a role except for the derby and the Man Utd game, all in all we all have a part to play and we haven't all played it.

Importantly, the game players who can really influence Everton - the ,money men, the manager, the players have seriously let us down and feel that all in all the time has come to say strike action is required, boo the team, boo the manage,net, boo the owners whoever they are and if the team feel uncomfortable, then tough, they get paid enough to feel uncomfortable if they are not playing good enough. Hollow to feelings, what about ours as supporters!!!!

Shit result followe day the shite taking over us!!!!!

Bollox, bollox, and more bollox!!!!

Richard Dodd
29 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:26:20

If you can never say anything good,Marshy............ but NO and NO.

Mark Tanton
30 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:32:46

Looking at both Spurs and Those Who Must Not be Named was depressing today. I am just a littled worried we'll get taken apart by both to be honest.

Andy Walker
31 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:31:08

Yes Tony but do you think if Moyes goes to say Chelsea he'll be putting any bids in for any Everton players other than possibly Fellaini (and I now doubt even that after yesterday)?

Richard Dodd
32 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:37:36

Perhaps the two Marshy mentioned?

Sam Higgins
33 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:37:44

WHAT COULD OF BEEN:

Everton v Millwall or Blackburn

Liverpool now ahead in the prem

A shit weekend complete!!!

Patrick Murphy
34 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:34:22

FFS it would have been Blackburn or Millwall

Ste Traverse
35 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:39:24

And just to rub it in Wigan have just drawn the winners of Millwall and Blackburn in the Semis.

Fucking great.

Phil Rodgers
36 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:34:39

Wigan v Blackburn/millwall sigh.....

Chris Jones [Burton]
37 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:40:20

Millwall or Blackburn in the Semi. Good luck Wigan!

Mike Price
38 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:32:19

Just to pour more salt in...we'd have got a championship team in the semi!

Andy Callen
39 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:37:10

Bad draw for the F.A. Cup semi final - now means only 5th will play in Europe. The only good thing is it will likely mean no European football for the RS... Bitter, me? NSNO

Kunal Desai
40 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:40:56

Tops of shite weekend the semi final draw, might as well end it with Moyes signing a new 5 yr contract, that would just about be the icing on the cake.

Paul Ferry
41 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:39:08

And Wigan get Millwall/Blackburn. I feel like that Yvonne Ellerman lassie. "It should ave been me, Oh Lord it should have bee me, how could you even do this to me..."

Frida Ericsson
42 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:41:37

Easiest route to the final we could ever have had...thanks mr moyes. It's no surprise that Liverpool have over taken and I couldn't care less any more. It's what happens when the manager and the board have no ambition.
No wonder the smug bastard Kenwright's mug on tv yesterday was smiling being 3 - 0 down. I couldn't believe what I saw.

Season is over, do one Moyes. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, to quote chelsea fans at beneathus

Phil Sammon
43 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:45:14

I can't believe people are actually bemoaning the draw 'we would have had'.

Without wishing to fully go into the butterfly effect, I'll just say, it's fucking irrelevant.

Mark Dunford
44 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:50:15

And to rub more salt in the wound, Wigan have drawn Blackburn/Millwall which means the winners qualify for Europe.

Tony Marsh
45 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:36:38

Andy Walker, what you all fail to realise is Moyes won't get a so-called top job, never in a month of Sundays. You could give Moyes a billion quid to spend on top players but he would still use the same formations and tactics as it's all he knows. Different players same ideas.

Money can't change what Moyes knows as a coach can it? Good managers evolve with experience, Moyes doesn't. Moyes does the same shite now as he did 10, 8, 5, 3, 1 years ago all though now with better players. Why is this Andy?

Frida Ericsson
46 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:51:01

I am surprised you did not say, I am surprised people are bemoaning the clown in charge of our team :p

Phil Sammon
47 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:55:04

AND I would have won the lottery if I'd picked 6 different numbers.

Why oh why am I cursed with such dispicable luck?!

Frida Ericsson
48 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:55:44

Phil, people are bemoaning, because it should have been us there in that semi final, and you know, it actually hurts that we are not. it might be irrelevant about the draw, but the fact is, we where gifted a walk to the final, it could not have been easier, and we go out in the spineless / gutless performance of yesterday, like we always do in matches that matter.

Tony Hanlon
49 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:51:12

So 6th will not get a European place next season. Swansea, Wigan (probably) and Arsenal /Redshite will in the Europa league. We will finish 8th or 9th and Moyes will spout what a good season we have had.

Listening to Talksport today, media still saying Moyes is a top manager who needs to leave Everton to better himself. Fucking unbelievable how these southern journalists still believe the hype.

Mark Tanton
50 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:59:43

Well who'd have backed us to get past Blackburn or Millwall on current performances?

Mike Green
51 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:57:28

Phil - doubtful. They'd have to have been the right numbers, and with the same chance of winning as your previous numbers at 14,000,000/1 I'd say if you'd picked six different numbers you still wouldn't have won the lottery.

Everton however were playing a game yesterday with only three outcomes, with a clear advantage on the one they wanted, which they didn't take. Had they been professional enough to do so they'd be in the same boat again in a game that could take them to a final.

It called 'taking your chances' not 'playing the lottery'.

Paul Ferry
52 Posted 10/03/2013 at 18:58:58

Listening to Charlotte from Halifax - 'I speak for every Liverpool fan' - on 606 is just rubbing salt into gaping growing wounds. ''It's all down to Brendan Rodgers', she opines in a brusque Yorkshire twang, 'we can beat anyone on the day'.

Heresy, put me to the flames, I found myself nodding along. I despise the shite with all I have in me, but I've been an Evertonian for far too long to join in the Autumn revelry.

Frida Ericsson
53 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:08:26

Tony, the only Europa league space left open, is 5th. Its been that way for a couple of seasons now.

Frida Ericsson
54 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:09:48

Andy Walker...can you honestly see Moyes being accepted by the Chelsea faithful...?

This man could be the manager of Barcelona, and still fail to get them to qualify for the europa league..
He might be good for teams at the foot of the table, but he is too much of a loser to win anything at all.

Preston as manager ? Shit himself completely when they where in the playoffs..failed misrably to get them promoted.

Chris Corn
55 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:11:12

Wonder what the celebratory DVD will be.."Exciting Eigth" or "Nifty Ninth."?!

Frida Ericsson
56 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:16:23

or glorioius 10th

Tony Hanlon
57 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:14:22

Frida 641 wrong ; If the semi draw would have been say City v Wigan and Utd/Chelsea v Millwall/Blackburn and City and Utd/Chelsea reached the final then 6th would have got Europa spot..(on the assumption all three finish in the top 4)

Ralph Basnett
58 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:28:47

Lowly 'eleventh!!!!!

Tatty twelfth!!!

Would rather have sexy sixteenth!!!

Mike Green
59 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:30:52

Seventh Heaven.

Frida Ericsson
60 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:18:45

only just now thinking...i am bored of moyes? wtf.?! I am not bored.. I am tired of the capitulations the horse shit flying from his mouth almost every game. The failing when it matters. The 7th and nothing left, the half seasons we are only capable of playing.

I'd rather finish mid table and win silverware...and thats right you end up in europe doing it. Having ambition is something you do not seem to understand. All the posts I have read from you, are all about us having no money. That would matter if we want to win the league or god forbid make a challenge on the champions league.

He has had plenty of money to build a squad over the years. Martinez is able to rotate his squad of 18...moyes can barely rotate 13 players into their right positions each match.

He is paid huge amounts of money to do his job and to get us silverware. a knife to a gunfight?...the man is a coward and shitbag..if he was honorable or if he was a decent person...he would have walked away today or last night for his part in the final straw of a travesty. He has lost the players..he signs a new contract ...then we deserve him..we have no one to blame but ourselves..we have the ability to get this man out...but being lemmings we won't say a word and continue moaning about his decisions and his ability for the next 3 years..yawn

Patrick Murphy
61 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:31:06

'Simply The Best of the Rest'. 'Bridesmaids Revisited' 'No Money - No Cry' or 'Still Bill - Vol.13' may be suitable end of season review titles.

Colin Glassar
62 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:37:16

Worst weekend (of football) ever. Humiliated at home to the pie eaters and humiliated tomorrow at work by some plastic, glory hunting rs morons!! Thanks Everton.

Frida Ericsson
63 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:36:38

Sorry, I was talking about Sam Hoare. Also to the same person: If he really wanted Sideways Phil, he would have bought him. I think he was taking the piss the really. Phil Neville is shit, and has always been that way. Didn't he sit on the United bench for a couple of years before coming to us when he was 28?

Chris James
64 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:41:02

What a load of old shit.

Millwall/Blackburn? We could and should be looking forward to a real chance at an FA Cup Final this Sunday — not evaluating our entire club setup (again).

Brian Denton
65 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:42:12

Patrick 665 - thanks for lightening what has been a traumatic weekend. Gallows humour - it's what Evertonians are made for.

Phil Sammon
66 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:39:11

Mike Green

Well somebody's not familiar with sarcasm.

I was merely demonstrating that 'ifs' and 'buts' are not worth crying about. Specifically the draw we 'would have had'.

What is worth crying about is that diabolical performance and the fact that it was not an isolated incident.

Sean Patton
68 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:45:38

Just one of those weekends eh!

Ralph Basnett
69 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:47:08

Crazily quiet from Goodison except Moyes shit post match interview, would like to have thought they were all training on Sunday as hardly many broke a sweat on Saturday, oops forgot, not in their contract.

The hardships of being a professional footballer on £20k plus a week, but don't forget there career only lasts until they are thirty!!! That gives them an average of 12 million over a career, shit that's not good, should have got a job at KFC.

Sick of excuses because there are none for not doing your job. Period.....

James Stewart
70 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:48:00

I have been saying since January we will struggle to make the EL let alone the CL which is pure fantasy. RS will finish above us, as painful as it is they deserve to. We have a suspect keeper, a defence that cannot keep a clean sheet to save it's life even against lower league opposition, one of the worst CM pairings in the league and a striker in the worst form of his career. In what universe is that anything other than a recipe for disaster

Ralph Basnett
71 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:54:43

James, if we played in red you have just named all the reasons why we would succeed, but we are Everton. Sigh....

Steve Edwards
73 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:46:29

It dosn't matter who Wigan drew in the cup, we wouldn't have won it anyway. Get real, our team is not good enough.

I've come off the fence and half-a-season Davey has to go. It's time for us all to move on. I'm more interested in what he does with another club than what he does with us. Even the odd relegation battle would be more interesting than this.

I'm well fed up with Groundhog Day football. If I was a betting man, I would think Davey Boy is about to make a very big mistake. He will leave the most secure job in football and take the biggest chance of his life. Go for it, Davey, I'm bored shitless.

Mike Oates
74 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:58:39

AND....... Wigan vs Blackburn or Millwall, Man City vs Man Utd or Chelsea... What a massive failure.

I've never said it before but go Moyes, Fellaini, Jelavic, Osman, Heitinga, Anichebe, Mirallas, Neville – doesn't that mean no team? Well let's start again with the £40m we should get for that lot.

Harold Matthews
75 Posted 10/03/2013 at 19:56:09

Thank God Cheltenham starts on Tuesday.

Phil Sammon
76 Posted 10/03/2013 at 20:17:35

Mike Oates

Even in this time of outrage and all out condemnation, it is still possible to spot an idiot a mile off.

Get rid of Mirallas? Please. Do you watch Everton much.

Mike Green
77 Posted 10/03/2013 at 20:22:33

Phil - do you do any planning in your life?

Mike Green
78 Posted 10/03/2013 at 20:27:41

Too right Harold 706, thank God I'm goingTuesday and Wednesday, should wash this all away :). Good luck.

Phil Sammon
79 Posted 10/03/2013 at 20:38:23

Mike

Yes, I plan to go axe-happy on some brainless muppet.

The point is that had we got through, we wouldn't neccissarily have got Millwall/Blackburn.

We would have had a 50/50 chance and is only worth worrying about if you live in a parrallel universe. Which you actually seem to do, so worry away.

Vince Furnier
81 Posted 10/03/2013 at 20:53:20

Seems to me after the semi-final draw, it would be a good time for Moyes to go now. If we can't beat Wigan at home, we are never going to make 5th and we can't get relegated, so let somebody else take over the reins well before the summer.

Mike Green
82 Posted 10/03/2013 at 20:57:15

Sounds like self harm to me Phil, be careful with that axe.

Phil Sammon
83 Posted 10/03/2013 at 21:07:06

Good one.

Mike Oates
84 Posted 10/03/2013 at 21:05:56

Phil - if you had watched Everton as much as me over the 50 years you'd realise how little Mirallas actually does for the team. He has git talent as has Anichebe but you need to show it every week and not go hiding when the going gets tough.

Phil Sammon
85 Posted 10/03/2013 at 22:35:16

You're right. He's not done enough in the 50 years he's been at the club. And £6million was one hell of a transfer fee in 1963.

Graham Haines
86 Posted 10/03/2013 at 22:37:38

Vince 746 - absolutely spot on

Wayne Smyth
87 Posted 10/03/2013 at 22:50:34

Mike Oates, when I disagree with people, I can often see their point of view. In your case, I can't understand for the life of me what makes you write the tripe you have just written.

Mirallas has been out injured for much of the season, or playing trying to regain his fitness. Not sure how he's meant to show it week-in and week-out when he's on the treatment table. Against wigan, he was one of a handful of players who did fight for the cause, till he came off (and he was our best player when he came off).

There are lots of shirkers out there, led admirably by our manager, but Mirallas isn't one of them. Give the manager time, he'll work his magic on him soon.

Dick Fearon
88 Posted 10/03/2013 at 22:42:54

I hate to see the RS rise above us in the league but they showed more drive, passion, will to win and more guts than our shower of shit.
I am in full agreement with Tony's criticism of Osman, I was probably the first to recognise his weaknesses.
Just to reprise what I said all those years ago, He has no power in his shot, he has no strength in the tackle, he is too easily knocked off the ball, he is less than useless in heading duels, he cannot pick a pass over 30 yards and he is woefully slow in getting forward or dropping back.
For someone who is supposed to be a creator of chances, when did he ever do that?
Don't get me started on Moyes and his band of no hopers in the dug out. In particular that po faced assistant who offer no suggestions but spends his time muttering into that head phone while showing not the slightest interest in what takes place on the pitch.
Then there is that bloke who must go through pages of instructions to subs who usually come on far too late and consequently hardly touch the ball.

Tom Bowers
89 Posted 10/03/2013 at 22:59:37

It was inevitable that RS would get that result today after Everton's debacle yesterday.
As usual they score near the end after being behind.
The billions they paid for Ratboy and other ratpackers is paying dividends at the moment.
Everton need a fire sale in May after Moyes packs his suitcase and everyone seems to agree who should go.
Presumably Moyes has been earmarked by a billionaire club and likely he will take some of his pets with him.
Everton's priority would be to reap the benefits from a Fellaini move. They need the cash before they can replace some of the other deadbeats.
Hopefully BK will realize that the winds of change need to sweep through this club this year starting with the departure of Moyes and Round.

Dick Fearon
90 Posted 10/03/2013 at 23:47:18

Tom @ 795, I would be amazed and dumbfounded should any club with ambition hire Moyes.
The man has no imagination and besides he is regularly out witted in the tactical department.

Ernie Baywood
91 Posted 11/03/2013 at 00:13:41

If it remains Moyes' decision he'll be with us next year.

He's just too much of a coward to take a chance.

Roman Sidey
92 Posted 11/03/2013 at 00:15:03

Dick, not to turn it into a pissing contest, but I knew Osman was cack when he came back off loan from Derby.

Have to agree with Phil. Had we gone through, the balls probably would have been hot and we'd have ended with United/Chelsea in the semi.

As it stands we're now missing out on a penalty shoot out in London against a "hard working, great club" like Blackburn/Wigan. Seriously, at the moment, do we have five players that could confidently put a pen away?

Paul Ward
93 Posted 11/03/2013 at 00:22:00

Now the penny has finaly dropped. 99% of Evertonians reallise what a failure Moyes has been and always will be, what are you going to do when and if he signs a new contract.? Buy your season tickets as usual and let Bill and David have a good laugh.

Timothy Sebastian
94 Posted 11/03/2013 at 05:45:21

I saw the Liverpool vs Spurs game as well as the Man City demolition of Barnsley. There's no way we're going to pick up any point from these games based on the performance on Saturday. Best to forget about anything higher than 8th for us this season.

Phil Sammon
95 Posted 11/03/2013 at 06:23:40

So we've finally found the very first man to question Leon Osman's ability. A badge is in the post for Mr Dick Fearon.

Sadly, his gloating is unwarranted and entirely indicative of Dick's attitude to EFC. Osman is not 'fucking shite'. He is a good player who has played out of position for 90% of his career. He has great ability on the ball and shouldn't be dismissed outright because of a hopeless shooting ability. Where Moyes fucks up is picking him every week and guaranteeing him 90 minutes. The guy is clearly off form and shattered. Get him out of the side you blinkered fool!

Tom Bowers
96 Posted 11/03/2013 at 06:28:55

I still believe Moyes will be gone and despite the Wigan game I am sure he is still high on someone's list. There will be the usual firings at the end of the season and you know Chelsea will be first in line. However it's probable Abramovich will go for the usual foreign manager and that Moyes could never work with him.

I am also sure that Moyes decision would be based on Everton qualifying for Champions league and as that is a distant pipedream it is logical to expect his departure along with Fellaini.

Usually Everton have started the seasons well but it appears this season is the opposite way round and without the class and athleticism of Jags. the defence is so exposed and unfortunately when you needed some players to do some deeper covering and tackling the likes of Neville, Osman and Pienaar were woefully inadequate.

Mike Green
97 Posted 11/03/2013 at 07:00:48

Tom #856 - if I was Moyes I'd be at Goodison today with a cap in one hand and a pen in the other :)

If we keep it just to England none of the big boys are going to touch him, a few have already had ample opportunity and he's not even been interviewed. Which leaves what? Villa...? Sunderland....?

I think Saturday may have illustrated that Moyes hasn't been unlucky in not winning a trophy in 11 years at Everton, but that Everton haven't won a trophy in 11 years because of Moyes.

If he gets another contract I might be taking a little vacation from football.

Dick Fearon
98 Posted 11/03/2013 at 07:21:25

Phil @853, I fault those idiots in the back room who promoted Osman through the ranks despite it being patently obvious that he is deficient in far too much of what is required of a mid fielder.
Regardless if it is a right, left, middle, attacking or defensive role.

Dick Fearon
99 Posted 11/03/2013 at 07:30:22

Tom @ 856, my apologies, my reponse should have been to Phil @ 853.

Tim Jones
100 Posted 11/03/2013 at 07:42:03

We are now 7th behind the Shite and with a vastly inferior goal difference. Yes we have a game in hand - but tell me truthfully does anyone on TW, given the current form of Everton and the Shite,expect us to be anywhere but 3 points behind the Shite with an even worse goal difference after our Saturday game against Man City and the Shite's against S'Hampton.
If you do think otherwise you must be either an eternal optimist or high on your meds or other chemical aids.
And there is only one person to blame for this and that is Defensive, Safety First Davey who is totally responsible for all things regarding team choice, tactics - can't help laughing when I type a reference to Moyes and Tactics in the same sentence - motivation, substitutions and last but not least training .

Ray Roche
101 Posted 11/03/2013 at 08:01:52

"one person to blame for this and that is Defensive, Safety First Davey" I agree that Moyes dreadful use of subs and bemusing tactics have much to do with our current predicament but if we had a squad...a quality squad...with sufficient numbers, maybe we could rotate players and give the likes of Osman and Pienaar a break because they look shattered. Having said that, would Moyes drop his favourites? Not on the evidence we have seen this season.
But Kenwright is the first person we need to get shut of.

Mike Green
102 Posted 11/03/2013 at 08:13:20

That's right Ray #868 but Moyes has had 11 years to build that squad, the culmination of which was what we saw on Saturday.

I accept he's had to do it on a 'shoestring' but we've had some real windfalls with the Rooney, Lescott and Rodwell money and if he wasn't given it by the board he should've done the principled thing and walked, knowing the situation we are in today would be inevitable.

Pienaar has been in the main horrendous for months but Oviedo hasn't had a look in, Mirallas and Gibson were injured but Barkley and Hitz (to a lesser extent) haven't featured, Howard has he safest No.1 jersey in the league and has to break his back to get replaced.

Moyes doesn't have a squad because he's not built one by bringing players like Barkley into games, played them and developed them so they can make a difference when called on. Barkley still did more in ten minutes than the rest of the team had in 80 on Saturday, but instead we've got a 36 year old trotting around, who might be viewed as a pair of safe hands, shame he hasn't got a pair of safe feet!

Stephen Rose
103 Posted 11/03/2013 at 08:52:19

The silence from EFC at the moment is deafening. Please lads, let's show the cunts what we think of them on Saturday.

Phil Sammon
104 Posted 11/03/2013 at 10:25:16

Completely agree Mike Green.

This 'small squad' is his own doing. If Barkley, Vellios, Duffy, McAleny, Lundstrum and even Hitzlsperger had been given more chances then we would have more options all over the park.

I don't know how Moyes expects our younger lads to gain experience when he refuses to play them or send them out on decent loan spells.

The whole Stones transfer sums up the clueless plank for me. The lad had been coming on leaps and bounds. 18 years old and holding down a spot in a decent side playing at a good standard. Surely by letting him stay with Barnsley till the season's end, we would have got him more experience and even knocked a few grand off the transfer fee for the favour.

Thomas Windsor
105 Posted 11/03/2013 at 10:24:07

11 years this prick has had to assemble a team and he plays Phil Neville in central midfield and he is our captain.

I have been going to Goodison Park for 50 seasons and you have done what all the other managers have never done to me: I felt ashamed to be an Everton supporter watching that game.

Do the honourable thing and go.

Sagar Palikhey
106 Posted 11/03/2013 at 11:52:21

Missed great oppurtunity to reach Fa cup final, after seeing the fa cup draw i'm gutted to bloody hell, and redshit climbing above us is insult to injury . We had to sell Rodwell to buy Mirallas and Oviedo. Lfc bought Allen for 15m, borini for 11m, struidge for 9m countinho for 11m. Lets face it we are poor and can't compete with the big spending teams any more, Moyes can't do wonders anymore and he knows that so he'll leave .

Darren Robinson-Cooke
107 Posted 11/03/2013 at 12:58:25

Sorry to burst anybody's bubble on here, but did anyone on this site realistically, honestly, hand on heart think that even if we DID BEAT WIGAN, and then Blackburn/Millwall in the semis, that whoever we got in the final be it Man City, Man Utd or Chelski that the blues would not only revert to type and shit ourselves and do the usual rabbit in the headlights scenario that we always do when we get to the later stages of a cup competition??

Moyes has instilled this DNA into the side that we are not good enough or worthy enough to mach or beat these teams and the proof is in the pudding of our last two Wembley appearances.You only have to listen to his regular little soundbites –- "knife to a gunfight" etc to see the man and his defeatist attitude and his cautious football approach.If this is his attitude how would you not expect the team he coaches to adopt the same attitude? The man is basically a shithouse when it comes to the bigger teams and it shows in his displays more often than not as we have only won a handful of games against them if that.

Big Joe Royle and the dogs of war were not the most accomplished side we have ever seen, but fuck me, they never knew when to give up and that comes from Big Joe's character and belief he drummed into the side.If only the current side had their character and spirit eh??.......

Mike Green
108 Posted 11/03/2013 at 13:55:36

Phil 900 - see that's how bad it is, v well illustrated, I'd completely forgotten about Duffy, Vellios etc. These players may as well be invisible they get so little exposure. At least they get paid to watch the match, I guess that's something. Cheers.

Ray Roche
109 Posted 11/03/2013 at 17:39:42

Mike Green @ 873

Mike, that is pretty much what I was trying to say, even if Moyes HAD a big squad , there is no evidence that he'd use them.

Tom Evans
110 Posted 11/03/2013 at 19:05:26

Darren (#947),
My thoughts entirely although I am ashamed to admit it. Against Chelsea at Wembley the other year, I must have been the only one who did not scream with joy when Saha scored in the first minute, as I knew what the next 89 would be like.

Before the Wigan game, I toyed with the scenario you described and still came up with the conclusion that we would shit it as usual.

Maybe EFC can do without supporters like me but I keep coming back for more of the same.

Anto Byrne
111 Posted 11/03/2013 at 01:55:06

This photograph sums up David Moyes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21730155