Nothing to do with my contract, says Moyes

Worth every penny, Davie.

It's the same territory as last year when he boasted he'd "do it again" regarding the anfield debacle - if not Brent certainly Nero.

I read this article in the Echo and there is a link to an article in the Daily Post where Moyes said a European slot will depend wether he stays or goes. I didn't read anything after the headline but, however you want to spin it, he believes that there is a queue of suitors waiting for him.

He cannot see his own failings, I would probably have given him begrudging respect if he had admitted he got it wrong on Saturday. With his selection and then wasting time before making the sub at half time. But no, he can't even do that — pure arrogance.

No actually there was alot:
- Signed a 1 year extension on Feb 1st to put the player's mind at ease
- Asked BK to insert an escape clause in the contract just incase a CL team came calling in the summer. (We would also hear the news of Hell freezing over)
- Started rotating the players to keep most people fresh for the run in
- Use one of atleast a dozen formations which have been mentioned on TW the last few days
- Used your 3 subs at halftime to try and inspire a comeback

Regardless where we finish in the league I hope we get a change in the summer. His interview above is delusional and doesn't reflect a healthy state of mind.

When Spurs sacked Redknapp I really thought they would take a few years to recover but AVB proves that it's all about finding the right combination of Manager and Players. He's the same person who managed Chelsea but because he won the players over they are playing well. I always appreciate when I see any player score a goal and then run over to the manager to celebrate. It reflects the respect of leadership and it flows through the whole team.

Maybe the future is uncertain but I am sure of one thing: There's a Manager out there who can work with our current squad (maybe with a few additions in the summer) and hopefully bring home a Cup in the next few years.

Now on £13,000, If an average season ticket cost £600.00, then that's 21.66 Season tickets we can give out free, to the longest serving 21.66 season ticket holders. Better known as True Evertonians or suckers, you choose

On £9258.74, same average gives 15.47 free season tickets we can give out.

Now if we docked the all the players Steve Round prick, Alan Stubbs defender, Davey Weir defender, Jimmy Lumbsten fuck knows, Chris Fucking Woods (God that man fucking riles me aaaaarrrrrrgh ) Goalkeeper,and any other backroom member, we'd probably be able to give about 4,000 Season tickets out and I could possibly be one of those.

So I won't renew, I'll just expect a nice letter from Mr.Elestone / Moyes / Kenwright, apologising for Saturday, and a brand spanking New Season ticket for next season.

Even as poor as the team was playing, Moyes should've moved Neville to right back, dropped Fellaini into defensive midfield and pushed Coleman further forward... and if it didn't help, then at half-time, make changes. Standing there with his arms folded showed a complete lack of leadership when it was needed and reinforced rightly so the criticism he is getting.

Praise should be shown to Wigan who simply took care of what was in front of them with no significant changes made against them.

I definitely agree with the supporters who also are critical of the insipid board who remind me of an old saying, "Nero fiddled while Rome burned".

Also to the players before you are privileged to put on an Everton shirt have a look at Dave Hickson's video and see what a true professional is made of.

One more thing before you make quotes to the media — another quote in North America: "Before you talk the talk, you have to be able to walk the walk."

I'm sure he reads ToffeeWeb....

I was up at 0445 to get my lift to the match, paid my 38 quid for the ticket and and another 25 odd for the lift...watched the dross....broke down for the best part of 3 hours on way home on the M5 and to cap it all hit a freaking badger just outside of Bath in my car..........yup just a bad day at the office, though I do not think the badger saw it that way!

Just perhaps if you were to donate a couple of minutes of your pay I could fix the car in time for me to go through the same nonsense on Saturday?

They, the players, know that they owe their millionaire status to David Moyes and, by extension, the clown Kenwright.

I wouldn't have players like Osman, Howard, Anichebe, Neville or Heitinga in my Subbuteo team, yet Moyes sees them as indispensable.

David Moyes will achieve nothing after Everton, he has achieved next to nothing with Everton. His defenders compare him to Smith and Walker, neither of which comparisons are truly valid, as one came from Rangers, competing in a a two horse town, the other an act of true desperation.

Others compare him to Gordon Lee, who provided one of the most exciting Everton teams I have ever seen, and who was sacked soon after. Latchford, Thomas, King, Dobson, any complaints?

Eugene, if you are reading, I think you said on another thread that we are used to Moyes and are scared of change. You are so right.

Thanks David Moyes, but it is time to go.

Good to see you only do your finger pointing in the dressing room David, never in public.

Still, I'll wait until the end of the season before venting my full anger.

Remember the 8-1 defeat to Arsenal a few years back and the 3-0 defeat last season to one of the worst Red Shite teams I have ever seen!
There are plenty more embarrassments before the end of the season, mark my words.

I gave no one any points at all, apart, perhaps, from Mirallas who at least appeared to be trying. It's the same old shit, regardless of which competition we are in, we all know which team he wil put out, and how they will play.

Why do we have Hitlzelsperger on the bench (okay, he might not be where he was 10 years ago, but I'm not asking him to take on Barcelona), and ditto with Oviedo? Why pay these guys if all the fans ever see of them is warming up prior to being given a run out 5 minutes before the end?

Thanks very much for what you have done, David, but my feeling is that you lack inspiration and the ability to develop ideas anywhere near those of the inspirational coaches in Europe. (No, I won't name them, I've no idea who they are, but you only have to watch Spanish and Bundesliga football to be drawn to a particular coach or other).

There may be a few British coaches who could do a damn good job over the next few years (I don't think we lack the knowledge we once had). We are slow to react, repeat the same old mistakes, fail to learn from goals conceded (ie, free kicks and corners where we seem to panic), and are far, far too slow to counter attack because we have everyone back defending.

No David it was something tactically you DIDN'T do.

So, he was more worried what Wigan could do to us?

My thoughts exactly: "It wasn't as if it was something tactically we did or didn't do" — a statement like that from a pro manager unbelievable, I think the fella needs some counselling, poor lad.

Here's one while I'm on: Our glorious leader to change places with Wenger, at least he would give the kids a go, and Felliini to Man Utd and Rooney back were he should be... just a thought???

Supporters realised it was a bad day at the office – no, it was a fecking awful shite performance from a team that could not be arsed putting in a shift.

Well, I didn't realise that, and haven't encountered anyone either on here or in the real world who felt that.

This wasn't like the day we peppered the Fulham goal only for them to equalise with the last kick of the ball... there was no element of bad luck, or being hard done by here. We were well beaten at home by a side who in the main - and as their league position shows - are poor. Mistakes with selection, tactics and substitutions, plus a lack of spirit that starts with the manager, were responsible. Nothing more or less.

Yes, Moyesy, while it sure was a bad day (you think?), it can't simply be said to be just a bad day.

Even if that was the case didn't he claim he was waiting until January before holding talks? Now it's the end of the season & a load of waffle about how it'll only take 5 minutes to sit down & discuss it. Longer than the 4 minutes it took for his team to capitulate on Saturday I suppose.

Also, why would anyone automatically presume his contract stance is in anyway designed to signal disgruntlement, or put pressure on Kenwright or the board? He was still bigging up Bill & (totally unprompted) proclaiming him to be 'a brilliant chairman' in an interview with Martin Keown as recently as last Friday. He's done that persistently throughout his tenure, which just makes him look like an utter twat when he consequently gets a titty lip on about a lack of transfer funds.

I bet most people who were saying Moyes was doing the right thing by using his contract to put pressure on the board were Moyes supporters. Others like myself have always thought this was nothing more than Moyes running down his contract because he thinks he is better than us and would into a CL job. Deluded.

Says it all for me really. Instead of being proactive and devising a single winning strategy, he focuses on a strategy that tries to mitigate every possible Wigan permutation. No wonder he's a loser.

I'm not saying the board couldn't do better, because we all know Everton have been badly mis-managed, but to put the Wigan performance or result down to anything other than the manager and players is ridiculous.

Moyes contract stalling and posturing has certainly badly backfired - despite what he or his fucking inept parrot of a captain might say. But truth be told, he was never going to win anything regardless. He's always mentally bottled it and it's clear from the last 4 or 5 years that he struggles to motivate the team for a full season.

Good riddance when he goes, hopefully the sooner the better.

read the article from him again, and try telling evertonians he isn't deluded, and all me attitude.

what reaaly gets me is the sweeping statement, I don't know what I could of done better..talking tactics, which proves the point the he is a egomaniac.

it wasn't my fault, arrogant- most evertonians 'realized'?! it was just a bad day...and yet further states he hasn't seen so manymis- placed passes, headers etc...funny that, because this as been going on at least since just before december. and moyes hasn't noticed now during all this time just bad we've been?

he wonders why we are struggling very badly with the amount of players who stink the place out.

the only three id keep next season would be mirallas, baines and pienaar coming on off the bench and i'd try before the end of this season the youngsters ovideo etc. we have nothing to loose but more to gain..we have a good number of matches to have a look at the poor bench warmers..instead we'll be treated to the same lineup at the weekend.

moyes, you are delusional, tactically inept and bigger than this club..you make me embarrssed to be a blue at times...just go and now before the fans end up running you outta town..you said you would leave if we did not want you, your too delusional and egotistical to understand we don't want you..

You really are Jimmy Sorheim aren't you? There cannot be two Evertonians with that unique grammatical style. Can you confirm you and Jimmy have been seen in the same room?

In your Wild-West haste to have David Moyes "run out of town," you've embroidered your rhetoric with fiction, pardner...

You describe his comments as those of an 'arrogant egomaniac.'

You failed (deliberately) to include his contrite admission that his own performance was as poor as his players. Hardly deluded, and certainly not an arrogant statement.

"The last 3 or 4 things have gotten worse at Everton."

True. We've gone from finishing 5th/ 6th to finishing 7th/ 8th.

(Obviously, we all need grief-counselling to get over this travesty).

Most Evertonians DID realise it was a bad day when three goals were shipped in as many minutes. How often does that phenomenon occur in professional football?

You then claim that Moyes is delusional before demanding a mass clear-out of (wait for it) all but 3 players!!

You finish by telling us that all you remember are the embarrassing Euro thrashings. So let's ignore the big wins we did have, and the number of away wins we enjoyed. Let's avoid mentioning the hammerings we dished out, (6-1 v Larissa, two 4-0 wins, the wins at Kharkiv, Nuremberg, Athens, Brann, Alkmaar, BATE,) and let's also (conveniently) forget that Moyes's men won more than double the amount of Uefa Cup games that they lost.

You also mistakenly claim that he "will never win a thing in his career." Except, he won a league title with Preston, Frida....and before you scoff at that, please note that it was, in part, something that attracted us to him, and no one was scorning his Preston record when he arrived.

"Most fans DID realise it was a bad day"

That gives the impression that fans accept it was just 'one of those days', shrug our sholders, right that game off and look forward to the next game.

If that is what you meant then your as deluded as Moyes.

Unfortunately,the bad days far outweigh the good days under David.

The entire watching public witnessed a freakish collapse in less time than it takes to boil an egg.

It wasn't a case of 'hey-ho, never mind,' at all. It was total disbelief and anger.

Statistically, that's not actually true; But I would agree that the 'painful,' defeats definitely outweigh the 'great,' victories.

Well i'm glad you wasn't being blase about the performance but I still don't think a lot of people thought of it as a bad day at the office.

Imagine if he did...

Open on a house, then close-up of a wooden sign on a gate - 'Bonnie L'ang Forrd'

Cut to inside the house, we see a cushion that reads 'Be it ever so humble, there's nae place like hame'

It's Saturday night at we're at Davie's gaff.

Morag: "Yer Dad will be hame soon, so switch awf that telly and make yersel scarce".

The bairns: "Awww MAAA! We're watchin' oor Songs O' Praise DVD!!"

Morag: "I'll Songs O' Praise YOU if yer no careful - awa t' yer bedrooms, the NOO!"

Sfx: "Front door slam!"

Moyes: (muttering) "Of aw th'nasty ungrateful....Some o' them were actually booing me.....ME!! Eleven years ave give t' them. Ave sweated buckets, run my blood tae water and apart fae 20 million poond, fet WHIT? I'll tell ye whit - tae be questioned by a bunch o' snot nosed.....

Morag: "Och stop it David, sit yersel doon, yer'll ainly get wan o' yer headaches, I'll make us a nice cup o' tea".

Morag goes to the kitchen, Moyes logs on to his computer (using Windaes).

Morag returns with tea and a plate of ginger snaps.

Morag; "Awww DAVID! How many times!? Stay AWA' fae Toffeeweb! Yer blood pressure will be through the roof!"

Moyes: "Just a quick look to get an idea, ah need tae keep mah fingers oan th'pulse"

Morag looks over his shoulder at the screen

Morag: "There's a nice one, whit's his name? Entwhistle! That's very complimentary sure it is...and look at the wan after that, that's even better - a guy called Dodd. See, I telt ye the majority would back you - noo put that thing awa and come tae bed, it's almost eight!

Moyes closes the computer and smiles.

Moyes: "Maybe yer right love, looks like ah dae still have the backin' o' most"

Morag: "Course yer dae love, sure next week they'll be singin' that wee red-hair song again and everythin' will be back tae normal"

They head upstairs - Moyes switches downstairs lights off.

Moyes: "Jings, It's lit up like Peebles high street in here, lights cost money hen"

Morag tuts (fade to black)

We then cut to the kids in a dark bedroom looking at a computer screen.

Wee Sandy: "Well there's wan or twa here that seem tae think he's no too bad.......but everyone else seems tae think he's a c**t"

Fade

Give us a brief idea of what you think we're the good times.

It took me back to the days of 'Mind Your Language', those days when we found racial stereotyping funny.

The other day there was a journalist on a Radio 5 football segment who stated that Moyes had said off the record (as long ago as before this season started) that he had taken the team as far as he could. The implication (supplied by Moyes or the journalist, I do not know) was that he had outgrown the club and could only progress if he moved on somewhere else (bigger?).

Barring the miracle of a top three finish without having to invest in new players, I honestly don't think the manager had any intention of signing a new contract unless he was 100% sure it was in his best interests, and he is merely hedging his bets at the moment.

I agree that the statements above are largely delusional; almost as if the manager didn't notice the early leavers, hear the boos at the end, or the deserved applause for the Wigan side 9and their manager).

Many of us wouldn't have utilised the same personnel that he did on Saturday precisely because we would have expected our central midfield to struggle. The fact that he cannot see that, I find flabbergasting. If anyone dares to come on and declare that highly paid managers ALWAYS know better than us mere mortals, then I might just lose it altogether.

By the way, ever heard of Irvine Welsh? – "Choose us. Choose life. Choose mortgage payments; choose washing machines; choose cars; choose sitting oan a couch watching mind-numbing and spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fuckin junk food intae yir mooth. Choose rotting away, pishing and shiteing yersel in a home, a total fuckin embarrassment tae the selfish, fucked-up brats ye've produced. Choose life" -– Guess where he's from?

For what purpose do you need such a recitation?

a recitation is not neccesary.
You can refer to your jottings if that helps.

Then why ask for one then..??

OK, enough laughter. I have just noticed the TW poll - Do you want David Moyes to renew his contract at Everton this summer? - is currently showing that only 52% want him gone! That's only a tiny majority of fans on what is the most independent minded Everton site around. Even here, nearly half want him to stay. I'm astounded.