Shareholders Association minutes

How come you only ever comment on articles regarding the board?

As CEO he is a puppet of Kenwright he has no interest in us other than earning a massive wage, looking after Blue Bill and keeping us 'plebs' quiet.

Time is running out Elstone.

Wyness is now a shareholder in his own right so, at the very least, he has a vested interest in how the Club is run.

I used to think we couldn't have a worse CEO than tubby Wyness...I was wrong.

I've just never seen you comment on the football side of things, yet you seem very vocal on all matters concerning the board.

Maybe I'm wrong. It just seems odd that someone can be so passionate about the running of the club whilst seemingly not taking an interest about the football itself.

Interesting that when I have been there, there were also a number of Everton figures from the past there, who, when done with official club or media duties, preferred to socialise elsewhere. Also it seems officials from the visiting club often pop in to renew friendships.

I don't think the Winslow demise was anything to do with uncertainty around the long term viability of Goodison. From memory they did open at other times in the week, and had cheap beer deals - although naturally on matchday there was no incentive pricing. Lots of pubs in the area have gone now, a few seem to be only operating at weekends or midweek matches. A decline that is repeated across the country.

From the BU perspective their mistrust of the Board and anger at lack of investment just keeps on getting stronger and the despicable "performance" against Wigan has obviously taken matters to another level as, after a quiet spell when the team were doing well and disruptive opposition might have damaged that progress, the stakes are raised and perhaps more fans have joined the BU. Plus, due largely I would think to the animosity between the parties, some decent well argued BU financial and strategic papers get little attention which is a shame as despite the clubs intense dislike of the BU approach, there is more common ground than may at first appear when you look at the CEO's various state of the nation blog type messaging.

Leaving out last weekends shameful showing, and the laughing stock it has made us, not to mention the still painful disgust felt by nearly all fans, what has happened over the last year or so to intensify what feels like personal disgust between the club and the BU ? I had picked up that a while ago there may have been some vague report of fans purporting to be BU spitting on BK. Is this nonsense or is there any truth in it ? I can see that closing down all communication instantly but then it is not in keeping with the lead group of BU supporters whose stuff I've seen here and elsewhere. Sometimes campaigning groups cannot control the strategy / approach in ways that they themselves see as reasonable. However, it can be damaging when a small minority go off reservation and behave in ways that may be a sign of despair, anger and frustration, but ultimately means that no sensible dialogue will ever happen. I genuinely don't know if it is this spitting thing that caused the final meltdown, it may be utter rubbish, or whether there is something other than mutual dislike, even hatred, going on here. I think many would welcome some feedback on the question.

The saddest thing of all is that whether you are BU or not, and perhaps today more are voicing there support for the BU position, it is the case that many of us see a club, a team and a manager going under, and in embarrassing style. The sky bonanza is hardly going to make this all better, all Prem clubs get the dosh and all will be busy driving up prices for useless league1 level players, whilst lining the pockets of those same players and their agents.

No sale will ever happen when £175m is needed just to buy the club and wipe out the debt. The stadium cannot be redeveloped...or can it ? Who knows, there are so many conflicting expert views. But the gulf between supporters and the club seems to be growing and though it hurts me to say it, this cannot go on without some kind of explosion of anger spilling over into the stadium and the city. It just feels like its coming and I dread it as I cannot see a good outcome either way. So is there ANY chance that the club and the BU and others can put aside deep dislike and mistrust ? Can they put our great club first ? I think most of us have no answers, no real idea as to how we fight our way out of the culdersac that is debt, versus little capital spend on players and a wonderful but way past it stadium.....yet fans expectations remain higher than ten years ago, and pride in our club remains fierce, as it should be.

Will someone, somewhere, blink first please and try to find some common ground, quickly, else we are on the way to headlines that are all about protest and hatred rather than this special club moving forward. And who knows, football has a funny habit of making utter fools out of us all.....4th place in ten games ? Can't see it myself but stranger things have happened, after all bloody Harry could be about to pull off a miracle at Loftus Rd......

My advice to the members of the SA is to stand up to these bully-boy tactics and insist that they wil decide who comes from the SA. If Mr Elstone then wants to cut off all contact with the SA as a result then that is for him and the club to decide. It would be another example of the Board isolating itself.

Battles and wars etc.

The planned european super league would begin season 2015/16. Invited teams would not be permitted to play in their dometic league, would not be permitted to play in domestic competitions and they would not be permitted to enter the champions league. Hence the saudi pay off to every club 175 million every two years. The league would consist of 24 teams, and my understanding is that 16 would be permanent, while the bottom 8 would probably fight it out in relegation.

No club would turn down such a huge amount of money, and god knows what else in incentives. The premier league wouldn't be able to stop said clubs. Imagaine how much these clubs would get from television pay? shocking amounts of money.

How would you get into that rich list? it's unclear because all the details haven't been released. Fifa and UEFA wouldn't be able to do a thing to stop these clubs and league anyway.

From my further understanding, the champions league would still be as profitable as ever, since it would be in direct competition with the new league, but what would you rather watch? a diluted champions league, berift of high quality football teams, or take the money and run and hope one day to enter the rich list of the new league?

The premier league bubble about to burst? it will if it's biggest clubs leave.

I thought the lads were doing an excellent job of hounding the chancers "running" our club, but tbh, I wouldn't blame them for fuckin' it all off and concentrating on their own lives.

The last time the Blue Union organised something they were met with shouts of "Kopite behaviour".

Even worse was the demonstration of support for the worst chairman in the history of Everton Football Club when his face appeared on the big screen, and "The happy Clappers" were born.

Toffeeweb should have a vote on the main page.
Did you clap Bill Kenwright that fateful day? I bet not many people would admit it.

Totally agree, why should The Blue Union do a fuckin thing? We will end up with the club that we deserve, nothing more and nothing less.