FourFourTwo predicts tight finish, with Everton finishing...

Only the great start we had had me thinking that maybe we could go on to challenge higher up the table – that soon evaporated though!

I think we are about where we belong to be with our squad, that is why I would rather we took the cup competitions more seriously as our main hope of trophies.

This would mean that we beat Tottenham, draw at the Arse and the Shite and lose just one game in the run in at Stamford Bridge.

Roy of the Rovers stuff.

If you favour the MOB, it's fecking useless. Just ask Marshy!

BK and Moyes Out.

And no one is explaining to me why we'll have it tough against Arsenal, Spurs, and the RS, but they won't have it tough against Everton. Not following that.

[And for God's sake, please don't answer "because we never do . . .Look at our record recently . . . etc]. The games are in front of us. We're as good as they are. We can win just as they might.

27 points up for grabs, 7 points off 3rd place? 3rd thru 6th place teams have to worry. Not just the team currently in 6th.

Some of you are pretty fucking negative in your outlook. 3rd place is up for grabs.

We are continuously told plucky little Everton are punching above our weight, over-achieving etc etc if we finish in the top 7.

I personally think it is a load of bollocks but there you go.

We shouldn't believe the overachieving propaganda anymore. We have a strong team which should walk into the Top 6 every year, and if we would have won against Reading, Villa, Norwich etc and not rolled over v Wigan Champions League would be ours.

The two groups holding us back: The Board and Moyes.

Myself, I thought 4th was fair and 3rd right there to be had. You declaring Arsenal for 4th? Bold Peter, bolder than me, anyway.

Everton finishes 3rd, then. All for it.

Re the gruesome twosome I agree 100%

For me, what is rubbing salt in the wound is that we could be back to square one at the start of next season. We will either have a new manager who will want to to impose his own style or still have a manger who won't change his. We may also lose what is a very settled squad over the summer transfer window which won't help things either.

Arsenal do have a decent run in while I think Spurs will do enough to stay ahead of us. I don't think we have a hope of catching Chelsea as I think they can smell blood as far as City are concerned.

That's 11 points I can see, wont get us 4th etc.

In the close season Moyes will sign a new contract as no one else makes a move for him, we will sell Fellaini and Barkley and bring in three players who can play in any position and are fantastic at tracking back for corners.

Captain Pip will leave and take up coaching at a league two club and Jags will be made club captain.

We will not move away from the template we have now until we have a new board and a new manager.

Sorry to be a bit negative but its because I have been watching 11 years of tripe with the odd bright point here and there, oh and a very empty trophy cabinet.

Other clubs may have more players, more money, but it comes down to 90 minutes, 11 v 11, we've shown if we're focused and we want it more than the other team, we'll beat them, whether its Man Utd or Man City. We've also shown on many occasions this season that, if we go out with a half-arsed attitude, we'll get beat by teams like Norwich, Leeds, Wigan who have worse players and far less money.

I suspect we'll finish in 6th or 7th and behind the RS because quite frankly I don't believe the manager has the bottle and nerve to really go for it and get the team sufficiently motivated.

When do we start believing?