Happy Birthday, David Moyes!

Also, with no decision till the season ends, we won't have the chance to say thanks if he decides to move on. I think that would be a shame considering what he has done for the club. I know he has some critics but even they can't deny that he has taken the club from relegation fodder to a team competing at the top end of the table.

Or, pile more misery on us by signing a new deal.

So come on, Ross, enlighten me please: Who would we get who could get us playing more expansive football that could take us to the next level? Because I'll tell you: No manager worth his salt would want to graft for that shower of shysters who run our club.

Of secondary importance, happy birthday gaffer,a half-century is a great time to sit down and so some serious reflection and self-inspection. Never doubted your decency and dignity for a single second, it's your tactical decisions that sometimes leave me shaking my head with my arms up in the air.

Have many happy hours playing and replaying your REO Speedwagon and Styx box-sets.

Yes, the same "rational majority" who are comfortable with 7th/8th every year and think that failing repeatedly in quarter finals or even earlier than that against lower league teams every year playing tedious football, playing aimless hoofballs to Vic every week.

The fans, BK and Moyes always lower expectations and it is this lack of ambition that is holding us back all the time. He always plays his favourites despite playing awfully every week. You know who you are Jela, Pienaar, Osman, Heitinga, Naismith. The youngsters should be given a chance but they won't as Moyes hasn't got the bottle to part form his favourites.

The fact that he keeps Vellios and McAleny out of the squad and includes Naismith every week sums up his tactical ineptitude and stupidity. He sits back whenever we go 1-0 up, and against Norwich, Fulham, Reading and Oldham this cost us.

His record at the big 4 is abysmal and shows no sign of changing this season, we lost an opportunity to get to the Cup final by being hammered 0-3 at Wigan, lost to Leeds and missed a good chance of possibly winning the League Cup. The points we have dropped would have comfortably put us in the Top 4.

He moans constantly that we have an ageing, small squad, why doesn't use youngsters like Oviedo, Vellios, Stones and McAleny?

If you like average, and constant failure Steven, he's your man. And, just because the MOB want Moyes out, does that mean we're deluded? No, it's people like Doddy and Entwistle who think that Moyes can do no wrong and the apocalypse will come the minute he will leave.

Moyes has had numerous chances, each time he has bottled it and cocked up. 11 years is long enough, he's had the opportunities, he's failed and now it is time to give a new man a chance.

Poyet or Rijkaard in.

Kenwright is a lying, unambitious, poverty stricken, Kopite idiot who I will happily pay for a taxi to send him to Siberia. He is holding the club back by not putting in any money to improve the squad further, and that brings me on to Cockney Green who actually has the dosh but can't be bothered investing.

He completely cocked up Kings Dock and Kirkby and that BU interview showed him to be a clueless moron who didn't even know what was happening at the club.

And, most criminally, he has kept Moyes in a job for 11 years.

Let's drive BK, Elstone, the rest of the board out of this club and get a rich Arab or Abramovich in!

As for your suggestion of Rijkaard, really a manager who has had no managerial success with any club other than Barcalona, and whose "footballing ambition" took to coach the Saudi national side.

Aye, should have seen it before, there’s our man:
Let’s check his Win %s, just to make sue he is the “over-achiever” we need for the job:
36% Holland
15% Rotterdam
59%barcalona (a club just like everton)
55% Galatseray
25% Saudi Arabia

And he was so intelligent he left Barcelona at the perfect time, right?
Hummmm, perhaps you don’t care for numbers, I do wonder if the other guys advocating Moyes departure are care as much for numbers as you do.
Truth is you called his name out because he is a big glamours name, and did not give much thought to his performance or if he suited the club. Can you see now why I emphasised the word “rational” in my post.

Poyet has a 44% win % with Brighton, maybe just a bit early yet, don’t you think?

Ross, just by communicating your ideas you actually do more for the “Pro Moyes position” than any true advocate, such as I, could ever do. Thank you.

At one stage it was 55% wanting him out, but then we get a win against Reading and City and then he is flavour of the month again.

Moyes is not a great manager, his away record at the big 4 proves that, and the fact that he has won zilch in 11 years also discredits your point.

If we didn't have that moron Bill in charge he would have been booted out years ago.

If Moyes was a great manager, he wouldn't be here would he?

You lectured me on rational points; looking at great manager criteria, your point has been discredited.

The question you should ask yourself is, does Rijkaard have a proven ability to work on a low budget in a league competition in which the top 5-6 teams are some of the richest in the world.

Can't you see the case for selecting an "an appropriate manager"
There are much better names you could have pulled out of the hat than Rijkaard.

Much of the football has not been boring this season, there has been some great passing movement, and if KM had been fit all season, and we had just a bit better luck with ref decisions, we be in the top 4 now.

Well, if you cant underatnd that the poll "at the end" is what counts rather "at one point"

Well........... I'll leave than one for you to think about.

The biggest criticism though is the football he plays – dull, cautious, predictable. He still instructs 11 players inside our box when defending a corner - even when 3-0 down to Wigan. Other ToffeeWebers may believe the media hype but, for me, Moyes is just a very average manager.

David Moyes hasn't dragged Everton down, and with a little bit more luck he could have won a trophy by now, and at the end of the day every single club that has won a trophy, apart from the monied clubs has had a huge slice of luck along the way.

We won't break the bank, that's for sure, we may be paying £4m now, but this Board won't pay more will they? They will be looking to pay half the current managers salary if they can get away with it.

I am only guessing here, but we will appoint a British manager, Everton don't do Continental. They will want a safe pair of hands, someone who will toe the party line of Kim Jong Bill & friends. There will be no big names on their way to Goodison, expect someone like Malky Mackay, Mark Hughes, or David Jones. We will witness exactly the same brand of football, and safety first mentality - 40 points is your first & only priority,forget about trophies. We will appoint anyone who will nod to the press, take all the lies & bullshit of the Board, and as long as we are in the top 12, all is good in the world of blue Bill.

We all hope for the next big thing, but we will be lucky to keep the status quo, that's all we have to look forward to with Bill & Co.

When we analyze the last 11 years, we find not much has been achieved by Moyes unless we want to accept the excuse that he has not had the funding of the bigger clubs. My argument is that there were other managers who could have done exactly the same job.

Moyes is not a Messiah as he has proved time and again by the goofs he has made. That is the nature of the beast and he will not change.

Kenwright needs to act now to replace Moyes if he has any new ambition for this club apart from getting a top-half finish which is what he seems content with having kept with Moyes for so long.

Money guarantees nothing, but in our position until this useless Board are replaced a Manager that can get us above teams like Liverpool spending virtually nothing as a net spend is worth his weight in gold.

These dreamers who come up with Rikjaard are as bad as Peter Johnson thinking Juergen Klinsmann was a viable option and Poyet is just Moyes with 15 years less experience and so prone to making silly mistakes. Another Brenda quite possibly, just no silver shovel.

Whilst we have no transfer spend in comparison to the big spenders, Moyes is the right man. If we ever get out of this situation, then we should judge who should be the Manager at that point IMHO.

Living darn scarf I know fans of so many Clubs and they all, whether they support Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, West Ham, Manure, Liverpool, Gillingham, Man City or Millwall respect Everton and Moyes in particular for what he has managed to achieve. They would all, bar the Liverpool fans for obvious reasons, have him as their Manager, even the Man City fans and United fans. That tells me one hell of a lot. Some of the myopic comments on here are from people who have had it too good for too long again IMHO.

Best of luck in your next club. Except when they're playing Everton. Then you can fuck off like all the rest.

That aside, you're as good as they come. Sorry ownership couldn't match your ambition.

I'm with you Steven Telford.

Forget everything else (just for now) - just compare Moyes to Rodgers - a class act v a moaning clown. (God forgive me - but even Blue Bill has more class than Ayres and his bleating' victim' mentality).

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOYESIAH! (Although I thought it was on 25th December)?

(Unless someone got into your computer when you'd gone to stick another pin in your ginger doll)?

I almost choked - respect!

Today's speech about Fellaini and all the young kids he's developed seems to back up my theory that he'll sign a one-year rolling contract so that he can bore us all to death for at least another 12 months.

I shall not be renewing my STs!

As for Anichebe,he will never be good enough to claim a regular place in the side and if his other love child, Naismith, is really better than what we`ve got in the U21s, the cupboard really is bare.

Have a look at this list: bit difficult to exclude foreigners as the country is overrun with them but:

Steve Clarke
Glenn Hoddle
Gus Poyet
Roberto Martinez
Gianfranco Zola

On the subject of school, why the need to turn a simple birthday tribute thread into the usual polarised playground debate? Whether you are admirers or detractors, you will never change each others opinions. I just hope everyone uses cut and paste to save time having the same argument in every thread.

As for the other three... forget it. Hoddle — Disappeared off the face of the earth. Zola — Didn't cut it at West Ham. And Clarke — He's more fucking miserable than Moyes. No, I'm afraid it'll be someone like the three I mentioned with maybe Mark Hughes (god help us) and possibly McClaren being mentioned. Frightening thought isn't it...

The likes of Rijkard wouldn't touch us. And it pains me to say this... but we're just not big enough any more.

This bloke should have been moved on a long time ago, playing Neville in midfield at 36 is not the tactics of a good manager.