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Yobo calls off Fenerbahçe move?
The report by @turkishsoccer, who describes himself as a "freelance journalist, TV and radio producer," quotes the source as follows:
"The deal is off due to issues bordering on lack of communication and commitment. So he will be looking at other possibilities because there are no shortage of interest in him," said a very source to the defender.
It's not clear if Nigerian reporter, George Akpayen, (he reported on the impasse between the two clubs over the fee for Yobo on Monday) is the source close to the player or was the one passing on the information but Mr Akpayen has provided assurances that the quotes did come from Yobo.
Rumours elsewhere on Twitter today had suggested that a deal that looked to be 99% done had hit a late snag but the assumption was that the hitch was between the two clubs and not with the Nigerian defender.
It was widely reported earlier that Everton had accepted the Yellow Canaries' final offer of €2.5m, presumably just leaving personal terms as the final obstacle.
Update Oluwashina Okeleji of the BBC World Service, meanwhile, Tweeted on Wednesday that, according to Yobo's agent John Shittu nothing had changed regarding the defender's proposed move to Turkey and that the deal was set to go ahead pending the resolution of the last few details.
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740 Posted 24/07/2012 at 21:59:31
741 Posted 24/07/2012 at 22:05:05
743 Posted 24/07/2012 at 22:07:11
If I worked for an organisation that did business like this, I would have jumped ship by now and I'll bet there are players at Everton thinking exactly the same.
749 Posted 24/07/2012 at 22:18:54
751 Posted 24/07/2012 at 22:26:40
Many say wait for other clubs but after two years only one club has actually come in. The club are in a no-win situation if they sold too low or if they delay and hold out. In this instance, I would rather hold out rather than be shafted.
755 Posted 24/07/2012 at 22:32:02
760 Posted 24/07/2012 at 22:39:59
Is the panto a comedy, bet the rest of the prem thinks this once great club
is a joke..
763 Posted 24/07/2012 at 22:57:24
the rest of the prem really couldnt care less what happens to our club!
I wish people would stop quoting this laughing stock nonsense!
Other teams fans seem to understand our situation batter than our own fans, and every fan of any other team other than the redshite that I have spoken too have nothing but respect for EFC.
766 Posted 24/07/2012 at 23:01:19
Seems between Yobo and his new club.
769 Posted 24/07/2012 at 23:04:08
People are starting to laugh at us, it's just Moyes they have the high regard for
770 Posted 24/07/2012 at 23:04:12
Hang on, Bill.... "he's behind you!!!"
772 Posted 24/07/2012 at 23:07:26
On previous Yobo thread people argued that only the Turks were interested, this OP says there is lot of interested parties.
Why can't the club let everyone know what the situation is?
775 Posted 24/07/2012 at 23:21:30
785 Posted 24/07/2012 at 23:38:55
788 Posted 24/07/2012 at 23:50:27
Piss-taking shithouse.
Don't give me "it's not his fault" – he is manipulating the situation to suit himself. He was Moyes's first signing and he has totally taken the piss out of us for two years.
790 Posted 25/07/2012 at 00:04:01
792 Posted 25/07/2012 at 00:04:42
795 Posted 25/07/2012 at 00:15:26
Mark #788, I suspect that the club will have allowed him time away to sort out his future as it clearly isn't at Everton.
800 Posted 25/07/2012 at 00:35:47
I mused as such on Twitter earlier. If both rumours are true, that would certainly add up.
808 Posted 25/07/2012 at 01:08:54
811 Posted 25/07/2012 at 01:30:14
Are the Turbanned Turks (to quote Lonnie Donnegan) likely to get him for anything like the same price, even if he wanted to go? Probably not.
We polite Brits regard haggling as a bit third world, until we come to buy or sell a house that is. This is exactly what is going on.
If J Heitinga is offered many millions of quids (in Swiss francs I would guess) for a two year contract he will be on his way, as any of us would. 'Personal terms' aren't just the amount, its where its paid into to tax evade.
And if JoYo can't sort out a deal with someone else, he will be our left back cover for a while. Not too much for his agent in that then.
None of these things are likely to happen.
Off to bed.
815 Posted 25/07/2012 at 03:28:38
They want him, he scores a goal that wins them their first title in God knows how long, then they don't want him but will take another loan. Then they want him but won't pay the original price because he's 2 years older!!!
Everton FC is not blameless in this either. He should never have been allowed to go out on loan for a second time but kept at Goodison or sold. He is a far better player and younger than Hibbert... then again, like O'Reilly and Manuel in Fawlty Towers, Hibbert's cheap.
817 Posted 25/07/2012 at 03:49:24
Maybe it's Yobo trying to force Fenerbahce to finalise the deal and stop leaving him hanging?
Or Everton doing the same?
Or Fenerbahçe trying to issue a "take it or leave it" to us?
It doesn't necessarily mean that our club are fools who have never negotiated a transfer before. Though many will believe that out of convenience.
822 Posted 25/07/2012 at 04:46:26
We are well on the way to becoming Premier League football's laughing stock.
825 Posted 25/07/2012 at 04:54:25
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2178463/Johnny-Heitinga-set-Everton-exit-Fenerbahce-make-5m-bid.html#ixzz21bpCjPrS
So are Everton prepared to do MORE business with Fenerbahce even after they have made fools of us with the Yobo deal- NO DEAL.
827 Posted 25/07/2012 at 06:22:23
We should have told them to fcuk off when they wouldn't pay the agreed fee and now Yobo's told them to fcuk off when they won't honour their agreement with him.
Good for him.
829 Posted 25/07/2012 at 06:44:01
830 Posted 25/07/2012 at 06:38:09
James you asked why is this our fault? We should have told them where to go a year ago, who loans players out for two seasons? They have took the piss big time and we let them, everything we do turns into a farce, from transfers to pre season tours to ground development year after year and still the blinkered put up with it.
832 Posted 25/07/2012 at 06:48:21
836 Posted 25/07/2012 at 07:17:33
843 Posted 25/07/2012 at 08:21:34
846 Posted 25/07/2012 at 08:29:13
847 Posted 25/07/2012 at 08:35:57
2. Yobo: the sale of a 31 year old centre back, who has spent most of his last two years at a football club, for a nominal fee would be a quick piece of business with most other clubs, but not Everton - a club chairmen and chief executives must dread doing business with.
849 Posted 25/07/2012 at 08:39:42
850 Posted 25/07/2012 at 08:52:16
853 Posted 25/07/2012 at 09:03:45
We should have told them to piss off last year but no-one else came in for Yobo so Fenerbahçe took the piss again and have now had a player for 2 years with no intention to buy him.
We should cut all ties with this club and just crack on with it. In the time we are dicking about with this, Pienaar will be at somewhere shit like QPR where at least they can afford his wages!!!
855 Posted 25/07/2012 at 09:44:11
If the club do something ridiculous and the fact is apparent that they have done so then by all means criticize them. But to suppose that Everton are a 'laughing stock' because Yobo and Fenerbahce have not concuded a deal that Everton have no part in negotiating is ridiculous.
856 Posted 25/07/2012 at 10:07:26
I think that you are allowing facts to get in the way of a good story!
857 Posted 25/07/2012 at 10:05:08
If they agreed to sell Yobo for peanuts and buy PIenaar for a fortune then the wailing and gnashing of teeth on here would be incredible. The club are absolutely correct to haggle on fees – especially in these two instances as a) Yobo is an outbound player and as such does not need to integrate into the squad during pre-season & b) Pienaar is an incoming player but similarly, as someone familiar with the place, does not need the summer to bond with his new team mates – subsequently we can hold out for the best deal for the club, something I would've thought people would be happy about given our precarious financial situation.
I would be amazed if other clubs thought Everton are a laughing stock because they're negotiating transfer fees and moreover in the Yobo instance, as a few more level headed commenters have pointed out, it seems the issue here is with Yobo and Fenerbahçe. I fail to see how any of it makes Everton look 'incompetent and ridiculous'.
Also, the Indonesian tournament fiasco, while disappointing, seems to not be Everton's fault either – if, organisationally, it was a mess, then why bother?
By all means criticise the club, hold them to account as there are times when things could be done better... but for God's sake choose your battles rather than criticising anything and everything.
858 Posted 25/07/2012 at 10:13:11
861 Posted 25/07/2012 at 10:29:08
862 Posted 25/07/2012 at 10:37:59
Think EFC and Yobo should walk away from Fenerbahche as they are are not a serious football club to do business with.
873 Posted 25/07/2012 at 11:09:24
I know what I think and it would then involve us in more farce by having to go to EUFA or FIFA, whoever it is that sorts these things, to try and enforce payment, instigate a transfer ban on them etc.
Disingenious is one word. Anyone know if the Fenebache President is a politician as well!
874 Posted 25/07/2012 at 11:11:20
875 Posted 25/07/2012 at 11:30:21
879 Posted 25/07/2012 at 11:41:52
I mused as such on Twitter earlier. If both rumours are true, that would certainly add up...
You two must be drunk! (Lyndon Lloyd)
You two must be drunk! Here we are talking about a club that has pissed us around for a year after the initial deal was done and a price was agreed after the loan period, yet they had to haggle the price and get us down to half the price HE was actually worth, even though he helped them win the league and cup over the last 3 seasons... Now last me ask you this DO YOU THINK WE WILL TAKE A REDUCTION IN THE PRICE TAG ON JOHNNY??? Stop drinking the bath water!!!! We need the money and the players,... Personally I hope he hasn't gone so we can park his bum on the bench and he can watch the kids being brought on instead of him... Nothing like a bit of shame to get you to leave a club! If he is holding out for more money then he deserves everything he gets...
881 Posted 25/07/2012 at 11:42:31
And we get the same nonsense about statements (#772 and #775). What can they actually say at the moment? Do you really think sharing info about ongoing contract negotiations is the best route to take? — I mean, is it really in Everton's best interests to bang out information to all and sundry? Wont this annoy other clubs, players and agents? What about if it exposes our other plans, that we don't want to share? What if other clubs start exposing all the details their fans want to hear, but we want to keep sctum? If he stays, it will be self evident so no statement needed (he'll be back at finch farm). indeed, the club won't be able to say anything more than "no agreement could be met". and if he goes, then we'll be told.
883 Posted 25/07/2012 at 12:38:34
894 Posted 25/07/2012 at 14:45:23
if there is any substance re Heitinga and the Turks , forget it! Too much of a piss against the wall. Jonny would have to be hard up to even give it a moment's thought.
Time to play hard ball and tell them all to get stuffed unless they're prepared to pay up. Gees, I'm pee'd off with the crap that is thrown at us (real or just dreamed up by the media).
897 Posted 25/07/2012 at 15:01:46
014 Posted 25/07/2012 at 22:46:20
Re-read my post, only redshite laughing at us, they will try and find reasons to laugh no matter what, that's the rivalry!!
But If you want to live your life worrying about what the redshite say, you go for it, mucker!
084 Posted 26/07/2012 at 09:36:34
092 Posted 26/07/2012 at 10:15:59
093 Posted 26/07/2012 at 10:17:01
119 Posted 26/07/2012 at 15:37:27
185 Posted 26/07/2012 at 23:32:59
Not only did they go back on their word, they had the balls to ask for an extension as Yobo really didn't want to come back to Everton! But hey this is Everton, instead of saying DO ONE! what do we do? Loan him out for yet another year!
In his time at that club, he managed to Win the league, win the Cup and finish a close 2nd this season in the league... Now if Everton had loaned a player like that I am sure Even we would have bought that player at the asking price....
I don't really care what Yobo wants, he is another player that was treated well at Everton and yet wanted away the first time he was asked to fight for his place.... I think Everton need to grow a pair and force there hand, give them until 2 weeks before the deadline to now come up with the full amount or he goes to the highest bidder in any league, maybe we can £3 million for him from West Ham....
231 Posted 27/07/2012 at 06:33:33
Well good for you, I wouldn't and I'm sure many others would tell them to get stuffed as well and stay put.
236 Posted 27/07/2012 at 07:42:23
237 Posted 27/07/2012 at 07:51:39
We paid £6 million for him 3 years ago. As far as I am aware, his stock has not risen in the last 3 years, and he is now 3 years older. Thus, £5 million is probably in the right ball park.
Some players might appreciate in value, but mainly younger ones who get better etc, or those who truly are bought for peanuts and turn into sought-after players. I don't think heitinga fits into those categories.
Would prefer we kept hold of him.
239 Posted 27/07/2012 at 08:09:32
1. The terms of the original deal between Everton and Fenerbache.We know it was a loan deal. We do not know that Fenerbache were obliged to buy at the end of the loan (this in fact would have made it a sale with a delayed payment - not a loan at all). So comments that Fenerbache are somehow in breach of the original deal look groundless to me.
2. Fenerbache have negotiates us down to a price below market value. This is unlikely. Why would Everton sell Yobo cheaply to Fenerbache if they had offers coming from other clubs for more? There is no evidence that Everton are selling at below market value and it makes no sense to do so, so why assume that they are ?
3. The seriousness of the dispute between Yobo and Fenerbache.
This is all been blown out or proportion by the more hysterical members of Toffeeweb.
243 Posted 27/07/2012 at 09:00:06
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738 Posted 24/07/2012 at 21:51:52