I go TO the game!

Joseph, perhaps someone needs to learn you scouse!

I go the pub then I go the game then I go the doghouse!
As Ray says - It's a local phrase which is in common usage. It could be "I attend the Association Football match" but that wouldn't really go down well with most of the people I know.

Think you're on your own Joe. We're Evertonians ,we go the game ,that's what we do. Grammatically incorrect but Evertonially correct.!!!

Well mate if you didn't like the sticker, just be glad you didnt get an Everton season ticket in a RED case thingy, I remember that particular cock-up well.

It's a sticker mate, I can't believe you were so incensed about it you decided to start a thread about it! Surely there are better examples to criticise the club about?

I have plenty of experience of Scouse Ray. Funny Patrick (maybe to the people you know). Scouse or otherwise I think it is a poor slogan.

Dan, this is a forum. We all care about different things. I can't believe you posted to complain about the thread.

Gis a Job mate Gis a Job - there are millions of phrases of this type in use throughout advertising and the commercial world for example Nowt taken out - Joseph I'm not sure if you were casting aspersions on the people I know - but it matters not.

Just defending myself Patrick. Life/football is all about opinions, some popular, some not. For me it is a shocker. Enjoy your car stickers!

I go the game, it's what I do.

On your own, you're on your own

Fair enough. You all go the game. I'll go to the game.

You could write the "to" in yourself to show your protest. Myself I would prefer "the people's club" or "NSNO" for a sticker.

I did not get a sticker with my ticket should I complain

You can have mine, Pete, but only if you promise to use it though!

Good idea Mike. I think the Wigan Athletic merchandising team missed a trick with the "Believe" slogan. They should have gone for "We go t' game".

Sorry Joseph, I think its good, its saying I'm a proper supporter.

Although large sections of the opposing fans from outside Liverpool may think it is indeed an error.

Raymond, I don't need a sticker to prove i'm a proper supporter. I have plenty of credentials to back that up. It seems I am in the minority which is fair enough.

Is it a shocker because it's 'grammatically incorrect' or because you just don't like it?

The slogan has been around for a while now, and is clearly a reflection of how scousers actually talk in real life (and thus assert a unique identity), not what some public school Victorian from Surrey wrote down in a book in 1889.

Learn yourself some scouse AND some linguistic theory.

Mike Allison. I believe it is a shocker for both reasons. If it is a true reflection on how Scousers speak, surely it should be "I go der game".

Joseph, it's better than "I'm on the game". Now that would be embarrassing.

It does little to dispel the stereotypical views of some non Evertonians that Scousers are thick, lazy etc. It may be local dialect, but it will look like a stoopid mistake to the rest of Britain.

I know we don't care etc, etc, but Joseph has a point. Luckily though, he can just bin it, so no harm done.

True to an extent Karl but then you could say that about a brummy or Geordie accent, or west country or a Lancashire accent. It's what makes us different from say the states or the aussies who all sound the same. I suppose we could all talk in some homogenised home counties accent and sound like a news reader from the BBC.

Karl. Not sure about the last bit, but that post goes some way to backing up my point. I don't want Everton to look stupid outside of Liverpool. My original point was nothing to do with how Scousers speak but the message it gives out about our club. It is too colloquial if we are to apeal to a wider audience.

Two counties divided by a common language (to quote whoever).

No need for that Mr Chumley-Glassar, but since when did Aussies sound like Americans? There's at least half a dozen distinct American accents but none of them sound remotely Aussie!

Joseph, I'm with you. I think it's crass.

Stereotypical views are not borne from the people who are labelled but rather from the people who are too lazy to find out what real people achieve in their everyday lives regardless of their accent, dialect, language. What I dislike the most about some of those people is that they use the negative view of the city as a meal-ticket to further their own careers - one or two comedians spring to mind.

As for incorrect usage of language and grammatical inaccuracies, as I have already pointed out the billion-dollar Advertising industry has been the one of the biggest offenders.

But since language constantly changes over time - is there such a thing as proper use and wouldn't the country become a very dull place to live - if everybody spoke Middle-English.

Unless you live in one of the former colonies Karl most people would be unable to distinguish a New England accent from that of say, Ohio or Oregon. New York and the south are easier to detect but the rest basically sound the same.
As for the Aussies, can anyone tell the difference between someone from Sydney or Perth or Melbourne? I suppose the Aussies can but I doubt most of us could.

I suppose our neighbours haven't benefited from being predominantly associated with all things Scouse? I suppose that four man combo who once ruled the world of music were also handicapped by being from the City of Liverpool? Where is Eugene or John Daley when I need them?

The original point was not how people speak, but the message it sends out about our club. I hate to say it but: Man U (We all follow United), Chelsea (Blue is the colour), City (Champions together), Leeds Utd (We are Leeds), Wigan (Believe) are far better and there are many more that are better than "We go the game" in my opinion. I have purposely missed the shite out because I don't think people on here could cope.

Blimey, bring on the start of the season! What with this and the Brett Angell themed Ross Barkley article elsewhere on here one would think we'd be as well to just give up now. Forget a winter break for the actual football, I'd vote wholeheartedly for all the fan websites taking a summer break to avoid some of the more stir crazy amongst us from contributing such drivel.

Jamie, some of us care about ALL things Everton.

Joseph - my final thought on this subject do you think that fans from other clubs outside of the North-West believe that Blues singing 'Der-Der-Der, Der-Der Der-Der-Der....." is the Evertonians method of pointing out where the ball is on the pitch at any given time? :-)

Thank you for your contribution Patrick. I am not sure what you mean by that. However, if you are refering to my earlier post 982 I replaced "the" with "der" not "there". Cheers ;) COYB (Bloody hell! That would make a better car sticker)

I am no Scouser or British by any means, and I must say that when I first saw the phrase (in a video promotion sometime last season), I thought that I saw it wrong.

I concluded later that it's probably scouse or specific to the "local speak".

I can accept that, though I would say, as an international fan (singapore), there are a few more attractive / classy phrases we could use out there.

At a time when we can once again raise the profile of the club because of the season that just passed, as well as Howard's heroics at the World Cup, it certainly bears some consideration: )

I was struck by a friend who commented that there aren't that many clubs with a non-English motto/slogan. As such, it got me thinking about how we can do a bit more to promote the NSNO (fully spelt out or otherwise).
It's as classy as it can get!

I don't mind it at all. In marketing terms, there are different sectors of the Evertonian market. International fans won't understand the slogan, but they aren't the ones who are going to be buying season tickets, so they won't see it. If you're a local scouser buying a season ticket, you'll get it. On the other hand you wouldn't put something like that on the crest because the whole world sees that.

"We go the game" ... "We go to the match" ... We don't "go the match" and we don't "go to the game". Simples!

Joseph #30, I beleive Patrick #26 was 'singing' Johnny Todd?

And of course if you have an 'I go to the game' sticker in your car any 'SCALLY' knows he has at least 2 hours to help himself.

Joseph is right AND wrong on so many levels as to make the argument redundantly circular and circularly redundant. I do though share his dislike of the American habit of missing out; and, at, to, the, etc. from phrases eg, thank you for shopping Asda.... fumes... I donÂ’t Â’shop Asda Â’ ffs; I shop AT Asda and sometimes, for all the good it does me, make my choice of which shop I DO shop at on the basis of the missed out at or and or to, not much in the way of rebellion, but you have to work with what you ( have ) got

Roll on the start of the season and we can whinge about proper stuff

Written text is at best an imitation of verbal communication, not a replacement for it.

Verbal communication evolves, whereas, written text is footbound with all manner of regular and irregular rules, tenses and so on.

Very few here could explain "past imperative pluperfect" (whether or not it even exists) and even fewer could give a toss, including myself.

I go the game.
I shall not be putting the sticker in my van window.

Ironic that in the submission box we are exhorted to use proper grammar! Joseph, you should OF sent the sticker back......

The first time I saw this slogan on the official site (2 or 3 months ago??) I just assumed that it was/is a Scouse way of speaking and it didn’t shock me.....EFC being part of Liverpool city.

I have spent most of my life teaching English in France and I noticed the grammar mistake right away, but that’s what a living language is - there are mistakes everywhere...songs, advertising slogans, everyday sayings, and there are loads of different colloquialisms from all over the UK, Ireland, USA, Australia etc.

If "I go the game" is something Evertonians on Merseyside say regularly, then that’s grand by me!!!

Patrick (010) - You don’t need my help, personally I think you say all that needs to be said (re perception of Scousers and our linguistic differences) when you say..

"Stereotypical views are not borne from the people who are labelled but rather from the people who are too lazy to find out what real people achieve in their everyday lives regardless of their accent, dialect, language"

As for the content/wording of the sticker, whatever you think of it’s inspirational merits (or lack of), ’we go the game’ is actually quite unusual as it actually differentiates between the new sky fans telling the world how much they love utd/chelsea/city etc (and dressing up like the desperate Murdoch monkeys they are) and actually GOING...the..erm..game.

It’s (rarely a bad thing) a point of difference.

I’ve no doubt these days every club has some sort line that suggests their club are special or different, but I bet if you looked at those lines, they’d say more or less the same thing - ie: variations of ’I love my club loads’ or ’this club is great/special’

’We go the game’ says something different.

To me it says ’We don’t need to resort to Sky Geordie-monkey antics or crowing about our love for our team because....we go the game’

All that said, as a traditionalist, I’ll stick with ’Up the Toffees!’

By the way, I don’t have a car (because I’ve never learned to drive) so maybe there could be ’I go the game on the bus’ stickers that we (bus wankers) could put on the window next to us

Finally, to Joseph Bell - having heard the queen speaking ’the queen’s English’, you can keep it.

(of course you WANT to sound like Anne Widdicombe being analled (?) by ’big’ John Holmes, that’s up to you).

I'm surprised no-one has picked up on the subtle dig at the RS.
Wasn't there banners a couple of seasons ago (maybe more, going back to last European sojourn), that stated "Evertonians go the game, RS go the pub"? - about how Mordor is full of Scandinavians every fortnight.

Matt (080) - The book of excuses for why they don’t ’go the game’ would make War And Peace look like a pamphlet (and that’s just from my red mates).

While we're at it, perhaps we ought to have a word with that famous Evertonian (?), Macca, whose lyric in the 1973 song "Live and Let Die" is also grammatically incorrect - on two counts:

"But in this ever changing world in which we live in
Makes you give in and cry "

Nicholas Ryan 046
I was thinking that in our group in the 60s/70s it was always "are you goin' the match?" not game
I recall trying to explain to a bemused Cockney mate the subtle difference when Liverpool girls said "my fella" as opposed to "me fella"
Frank Shaw's 1966 book "Learn Yerself Scouse" was a lot of fun - and very true

How right you are Phil. It was always 'the match' !

My grandson is always asking why I call it so. I tell him I watch him play games at school. At Goodison it's always a MATCH !

Matt, you beat me to it, the RS "go the pub" remark, and how true that is.
For an idea of how much the loyal LFC fan loves his team, look at the tattoo on this clown.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BurknRnIYAAi37A.jpg

Ray #091, he's probably lost a bet - let's face it after they beat City last years they were nailed on. (Still haven't stopped smiling).

I do have a smidgeon of sympathy. When I lived in Singapore my local was run by a big grock of an Indonesian, who was of course a Liverpool fan. After a long day of drinking, just before we played at Mordor in a league game, the bet was that they'd beat us (I said they wouldn't, so all we needed was a draw) and the loser had to wear the other's shirt in the bar one evening.

We played shite and lost 1-0 (Ladyboy). Worse still was I had to watch the match from a cubby hole in ESPN's studios doing that bloody fanzone commentary. So yeah, I had to wear that bastard shirt for a couple of hours in this guys bar. The only saving grace was the amount of sympathy beers that were bought for me.

Good story, Matt, but how much ale would you have needed to quaff before you agreed to have a permanent tatt on your leg? !! I doubt if there's enough grog in the Universe.
I prefer to think that it's a typical glory hunting, toothpick dick'd mutant from across the Park who changed allegiance when they weren't going to "Go again".

Whilst I don't mind it from the linguistic point of view, as a marketing tool it's a little parochial. A homely bit of Scouse idiom may not appeal to or be understood by people in others parts of the UK or by the "lucrative Asian markets". As for the implied dig at the RS, well, I'd rather that Everton didn't define themselves by who they are not. That would also be somewhat parochial.

Would never advertise anything in my car to do with who I support. To many knobs ready to brick your window or key your car.

Eugene Ruane #078. Funny. An example of what Everton have tried to achieve is something like Newcastle's "Howay the lads". Unfortunately they have missed the mark by a mile. I will refer to Peter Mills #003 who summed it up perfectly "Crass".

Joseph, Chris Long said he was "made up" to score against Paderborn....do you get his drift ?

"I am going to the match"

"We go the game"

There’s a difference.

I’m jumping on the bus (not covered in give-away Chang-tat).

Someone (I know) shouts ’where are you going?’

I say ’am goin’ the match’ (because I’m not Stephen fucking Fry).

If however I’m in the pub and confronted by a fat, gravy and badge-covered ’Kopite’ who informs me ’Weev wun five yurupeeun cups lad, ’ow many ’ave youze won?’ there’s every chance ’we go the game’ will feature in my response.

ie: "’WE!!’ When was the last time YOU followed your team you horrible sweaty armchair meff – at least we GO the fucking game!"

So, hold on, does that mean those of us who no longer go to matches - for "matches" they will always be to me, not "games" - are not real Evertonians? That would be an unwelcome development.

Maybe we have our own stickers? "I used to go to Goodison but, what with one thing and another, I don't any more; nevertheless, I remain a passionate supporter". Come on, it's catchy, you've got to admit!

Crap slogan, as well as being grammatically incorrect. I weep at the paucity of our written word with it's SMS speak (ur m8 etc.).

All of those years of getting my arse (or posterior) tanned by De La Salle brothers when I failed to spell words correctly. Language does evolve but it appears that, in our case, it is a downward spiral.

I work for a French company and I am ashamed that the best command of the written word exists across the channel.

Well that rant is out of the way, I will not be putting the banner in my car, I will be going the match (not game).

ps: Before I get any xenophobic remarks, I entered this world in Mill Road Maternity Hospital, and I still wank (and not masturbate) to the sound of Z-Cars.

COYB

'"Solo lo mejor" is class...' – I'd be cautious of leaning to firmly in a Spanish direction, football being the game it is win or lose Roberto might not be here forever and I'd rather avoid such Kopite habits (see the Houllier, Benitez eras)

'"The People's Club" is evocative...' – a Moyes line, we've moved on from him I think.

'"You're in my heart, you're in my soul"' – I fucking hate Rod Stewart.

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum is at the very core of our club, yes. There's no real need to come up with anything else.

I really can't understand such a furore over a car sticker though.

'Jamie, some of us care about ALL things Everton.'

I'm very proud of you.

My car sticker would say "I go the wiziwig".

Obviously I go a few games a season too, but that has less of an impact.

KJ @ 143 I just wet my pants. Hilarious.

Eugene #136. If I do speak like Stephen Fry does that exclude me from being an Evertonian? If I tell my driver to make haste to the association football match, can I not support Everton?
Jaimie #152 These things come and go as you have pointed out with "The people's club" disappearing with Moyes. For the moment "Solo lo mejor" is Martinez's version and I image it would disappear with him. It is not furore it is simply a talking point.

Jamie, "I wet me pants" has a certain ring to it.... not sure I'd put it in my car window though.

Nice one, Jamie. I hope you've got a change of clothes...

Duncan - to take that a stage further, how about: "I go the TW live forum"? I mean, let's face it, you can't attend AND make as-it-happens comments on TW, can you?

If you are actually in the crowd at the actual match, you're actually where it's actually at, no argument there – but you're going to miss out on TW gems such as "If Long scores, I'll eat my mouse mat". Cue much delighted mockery when he scores an absolute beauty. Swings and roundabouts, swings and roundabouts.

Joseph Bell (most comments), you'd hate my santa hat I bought outside the ground about 10 years back. It simply said 'SANTA IS A EVERTONIAN'

Grammatical nightmares all round. I personally loves it.

On an unrelated but possibly actually slightly more related than I think it might be note, I can't stand the "We're by far the greatest team the world has ever seen" because the words don't actually fit the tune. I think it's the extra syllable in "greatest". It's a really awkward tune. A bit like with hymns, not that I've been to church much over the years, but whenever a hymn is cracked out at a funeral or whatever I always struggle sing along properly because the words don't seem to fit the tune. You have to sort of elongate some words, shorten others, etc., to shoehorn them in. Drives me mad.

Huh! Jamie?

Grey - test (phonetically typed) 2 syllables - great - est 2 syllables.

Lost me on that one.

I hated the school science one.........until I finally learned the words and could sing along with it.

"I can't stand the "We're by far the greatest team the world has ever seen" because the words don't actually fit the tune."

They do, if you "sort of elongate some words, shorten others, etc." which is pretty much the essence of matching lyrics with a tune (were notes can be given different lengths of time).

If you are unfamiliar with the tune or the lyrics of a hymn then it can be difficult to get it right first time, but generally care has been taken to make sure they go together. The singing at a match can be expected to be a little more amateurish in construction but that is hopefully made up for by the enthusiasm with which it is delivered.

This is as good a place as any to point out Jamie RedknappÂ’s latest analogy, this time about our own Lukaku:

"He can be powerful and a handful but he can also be like a trampoline, with the ball bouncing off him."

Am I the only one that has never bounced a ball of a trampoline.

Granted, heÂ’s come out with worse, and IÂ’m now going to read the rest of his season preview to find some more.

Maybe he means he's like a trampoline in that he can normally be found in the garden, and Jose Mourinho is nowhere near.

I'm with Joseph on this one. 'I go the game' never mind the grammatical mistake, WTF does that mean anyway? Have we suddenly moved to Wisconsin or something? Last time I looked we called it a 'match'.

Not a souser myself and the phrase just looks odd to me (nevermind being wrong). There's enough ammunition for other fans to use to make fun of us, why give them more? Use the correct grammar please - if only for the sake of the kids.

Also what is that supposed to mean anyway? Us plebs that can't make it to GP on a regular basis are somehow 'sub' fans? And we're not worthy of a grammatically incorrect bumper sticker proclaiming in a too obvious yankisation 'I go the game'?

Next we'll be getting blue 'swoosh' bandanas stating 'Just do this' (so we don't upset the big men at Nike!), whilst having a cook out in the GP car park before the game....

Even though we have qualified for Europe and many old and famous players have fallen or may fall into the trap of Roberto’s revolution, we shall not flag or fail. We shall moan on to the end. We shall moan in France, we shall moan on the seas and oceans, we shall moan with growing confidence and growing strength on the message-boards, we shall pillory our club, whatever the cost may be. We shall moan on the beaches, we shall moan on in the fields and in the streets, we shall moan in the hills; we shall never surrender, we shall carry on the moaning, until, in God’s good time, the commercial department with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue us from this incorrect use of the English language and then we can all moan anew at some other major aspect of the club.
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Patrick, quit yer moaning!!

It's just an awful, awkwardly constructed song that I've never liked. If you took out the 2-syllable "greatest" and substituted it for the single syllabled (is that even a word?) "best" then it would flow better but it's still a rubbish song and one used by multiple clubs around the country which is another reason to avoid it in my opinion.

Back to this sticker, I don't think anyone else in the world of a non Evertonian persuasion is that bothered about our range of in-car display items so I fail to see how it's an embarrassment to us or a marketing fail of any significance. I'm not interested in the miscellaneous merchandise of other clubs, even our neighbours and their fantastic club-branded cape of a few years ago. What an effort...!! I am familiar with the phrase to "go the game", or indeed probably more commonly the "match" and I can see why it would make sense to send such a thing out to season ticket holders of all people who will presumably be doing just that. I also don't think that such use of the local dialect is anything to be ashamed of, looked down upon, scoffed at, etc. Language is a far more flexible art than many an internet pedant will have one believe and (corny cliche alert) one that the people of Liverpool are world renowned for. And it's really nothing to do with setting a bad example to youngsters in terms of grammar either is it? Any child anywhere who goes TO a football match will be witness to far greater "crimes" in terms of linguistic misuse for the duration from certain fellow attendees (much of it in fact to great comic effect).

But really like I said at the start, I just wish the new season would just get underway so we can all calm down a tad and start talking about the actual football. Up the Toffs.

@:Patrick: *applauds*

Ray#004,Patrick#011,Alan#915,Tony#930,Ray#955 yous do not know what yous are talking about. Yous are,yknow patronising the souls of genuine Evertonians like yknow like.The better scousers like yknow true Blues are posh not like the RS like who are common like. I was with my Judy up the jigger before the match and she said like Go go!! Yknow.
So thanks to Joseph we should remain upper class Scouse. Hence, the Everton's Latin slogan.

Denis (190) - "Not a souser myself and the phrase just looks odd to me (nevermind being wrong)"

Not as wrong as ’nevermind’ and ’souser’?

Look, Everton are the city of Liverpool’s original team and in the city (nb: that Everton were born and have always ’lived’ in), there are (as there are in many town’s and cities) dialect and language peculiarities.

One of these peculiarities is, when speaking, to omit certain words.

"I’m going the alehouse", "I’m going the doctors" etc.

Everton’s ’we go the game’ exists for three reasons.

1) It says to Evertonians ’we speak your language’

2) It is a gentle guilt ploy to get supporters to renew or buy a season ticket.

3) It has a gentle dig at red armchair puddins.

As for ’the match’, of course ’I’m off to the match’ or ’I’m going to the match’ is used,, but take my word for it, when arguments with them (spit) get heated, there’s a good chance you might hear an irate a blue say "At least we go the fuckin’ game, you twats are all in the fuckin’ alehouse in your replica shirts while your ground is full of fuckin’ nob-head football tourists taking fuckin’ selfies on their phones"

And if that WAS heard, nobody (from Liverpool) would think "Hmm...strange that he/she used ’game’ instead of ’match’"

Joseph Bell (160) - "Eugene #136. If I do speak like Stephen Fry does that exclude me from being an Evertonian?"

Absolutely not... however if you’re due at Goodison for a game, but suddenly decide it’s all too much for you and decide to fuck off to France, then after a week you return to TW saying ’Forgive me, I’ve been a silly old fool" I’ll tell you you’re probably more suited to Fulham.

Actually, this is a clever ploy to market Everton in Hawaii, where the phrase would be pronounced "I go da game, bruh."

And Denis #190, non-Scousers are always welcome here, but if you're "not a souser" you are definitely in a very small minority. Especially on game day.

@Patrick #194. In the words of the current Toyota Aygo advert, "Go Fun Yourself!".

God knows what Joseph makes of that.

Whatever the sticky bit of plassy says (see what I did there?) we've sold 30,000 season tickets! We are a massive club, no matter what anyone says. Imagine how far we could go if we had a little success?

I wish I was as articulate as dat der Eugene Ruane. Top work lid.

Haha Eugene 201 - thanks for the corrections, forgot the wise habit of reading through before pressing 'submit'....

Understand the local 'missing a word out' thing when speaking but when writing it's a bit different (for me anyway). Having grown up 'daarn saaarf', if I had that sticker on my car I'd get the piss taken out of me for being illiterate!

This must be one of the most pointless threads in Everton's long and illustrious history but it's a lot of fun. I'm sorry for Joseph but its a fact of life, lots of scousers don't talk the queens English like if yer know what I mean like ar kid.

Mike, very good - as a non souser, I might be in the majority.....simple spelling mistake but apprently 'souser' is a word, a verb actually, 'to souse'!

one who souses. noun form of souse.
Sousing is a derogatory term that can be inserted in lieu of any other word. It can be a noun, verb, adjective, or just about any other type of word. As

Jimmy is such a fucking souser, he loves to souse it up.

Learn something new every day!

Ray #203 I couldn't give a "fun" about Toyota, but I do about Everton.

Mike #202 It almost sounds like none Scousers need an invite to be welcome. It has been an intetesting debate. Thank you everyone. If you want my car stickers I will leave them in one of the bogs in the lower gwladys. I'm off to support Fulham.

How about " I go to the game wit der money from the ringfenced kitty darra werk 24/7 tÂ’ get" Which brings all the cliches together in one perfect slogan.

As great as 30k season tickets is, for those like me who make 5/6 games a year on a 400 mile round trip it's a worry- it looks like either a get a season ticket or I won't get a chance to "go or go to"!!

Let’s just hope that whoever is at the game/match, they don’t (as these Magdeburg supporters felt they had to, after 5 games without a goal) feel the need to resort to this..

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Joseph, part of being a scouser is having a sense of humour and the ability to laugh at ones self. Don't go off to fulham they are all toffs down there and their pies are rubbish.

I go the game... Where's the "to" money, Bill?

Again, out of context, but we all might enjoy this spoof article of our loveable neighboursÂ’ fans in Ireland. Not the funniest article by this usually witty website but worth a look Link

'I go the game Mummy' was what Bill always said to his Ma as he pleaded for the spons to get him in the Boys' Pen.

Given that he has just parted with 㿊M plus to underwrite Bobby's Dream, it behoves us to indulge him.

Why are TWers so ungrateful?

The RS have just brought out their range

Norway = "Jeg flyr spillet."

Cornwall = "Alright me dear I go the game I do.

Norwich = "I'd like to go the game me beauty but I can't on account of me webbed feet."

Irish = "Ah begorrah, I go the goime wit toasands of me mates,"

And finally Scouse = "I'm the one who goes the game."

I had a comment about the OP, but never mind that, now I have a question about important stuff. Phil Bellis (085) please explain the difference between "my fella" and "me fella". Thank you.

We desperately need a ball kicked in anger don't we?

The phrase caused me double-take when I saw it. It's not exclusively scouse though. It is common in Warrington, where I hail from. I'm sure our Manchester brethren can be heard intoning "goin the game" through their adenoidal inflection.

It does smack of the theatrical. "They say that don't they, the fans?" "Yes, yes they do! I used to say – I'm going the boys' pen."

I can see why they've done it. It connotes that everyone who works for Everton supports the Everton family, which is largely the case and to be proud of. But this could have been said without sounding so backwater.

A subtle dig at our neighbours doesn't work for me. Our slogans need to be because of Everton, not because another team can tease us about our recent successes.

That said, if McDonald's can corporatise current vernaculars such as "I'm lovin' it", then who am I to say Everton can't either?

Where does the notion that everybody in Liverpool uses exactly the same grammatical constructs come from? Anybody who knows the city (marketing department excepted) are well aware that the scouse dialect can vary dramatically from one area to another. I am awaiting with interest the first punch up in Kirkdale between two factions who have differing views on the omission of the one word that would make the sticker intelligible. For myself I would bring back the death penalty for the uncapitalised first person singular.pronoun.

There was a linguist, a few years back, on radio city who said he could tell what area of Liverpool you were from just by listening to you. Loads of people called but I think he got most of them wrong as they were putting on funny voices. The fella got pissed off and has never been heard of since.

I come from Speke, and I think I can tell south Liverpool from North/Central, Colin. The Beatles were all from the south of the city, and you can tell - albeit the accent has changed since the 1960s. On a personal note, since I moved to the Home Counties I have quite often been told I sound like John, George and Ringo - but never Paul! Which just goes to show - although I don't know what. I rest my case.

Kev, I've been told I talk like John but look(ed) like George. When I lived in the states the yanks used to ask me if I knew the Beatles. I used to tell them I went to school with them (even though they're much older then me) and I used to lend them their tuck money. They didn't have a clue what I was on about but they thought I was really 'cool'.

I used to go TO the match from Blundellsands and Crosby - Liverpool 23 - a.k.a. the "posh slums"

When you wuz Fab Colin? Who's arriving this week Colin any body to excite us. On another note been watching the live feed of the Fabric of Everton night and Seamus is so down to earth it's untrue - top lad.

Ron #497 "For myself I would bring back the death penalty for the uncapitalised first person singular pronoun."

A piece on BBC radio this morning saying that "I" used to be uncapitalised. But with printing it was capitalsed so it didn't get lost in print setting – or something to that effect – I think!

Capital punishment for uncapitalised personal pronoun – nice symmetry in that!

Atsu tomorrow Patrick. Henen, Kalou and possibly Traore in the next few days.

Brent, my iPad automatically converts my i's into I's. It's mind blowing all this technology isn't it?

Don't take your iPad to Old Trafford Colin - they have just been banned...

Thinking of taking in a Manchester United game at Old Trafford this season? Better leave your iPad at home.

Citing ''latest security intelligence,'' United has added ''large electronic devices including laptops and tablets'' to the list of banned items for match days at its famous 76,100-seater stadium.

An email was circulated to fans ahead of Tuesday's friendly against Valencia, explaining the new measures which weren't believed to be in operation at any other English club.

Tbh Gerry I'd ban mobiles as well. The amount of people taking selfies and talking shit on their phones during games is really annoying IMO. I'd ban all electrical appliances at games.

Colin, your iPad sounds like my mother, always correcting my speeling.

Ray#84
Poetic licence to make the line scan.

I go to the match-- a football match between two teams of footballers.
A football game--something you play on the kitchen table after your tea--subbuteo or blow football.
Scouser-soucer --as in soused herring-drunk ?
This thread has been really funny,only in Liverpool can you have had so much fun with wordplay (not foreplay)

What about the floodlights, Colin?

Are we going to have to hold candles at evening games?

I though United got rid of large robotic items 40 years ago when Jim Holton left OT.
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Kev, I was thinking more along the lines of irons, curlers, George Foreman grills, toasters etc... All the things your average, uncouthed, badly spoken football fan will take the game.

Colin-- Have you seen someone with a washing machine at the game, sorry match ?

David - if it's any help I usually leave the washing machine at home aka the missus - sorry ladies.

I once went to a game down in Ipswich (mid-70's) David, and some of those boys were sitting on an industrial sized tumble dryer!! Outside, the car park was full of tractors and caravans

Some sides used to come to Goodison with a sweeper, David.

Colin - Did we keep a clean sheet in that game?

Colin. You should have had a second look! In the 1970s that was their main stand.

By the way, shouldn't it be "if you knew your history" instead of "if you know your history"? A second conditional?

Let's remember the accent as well, folks "sólo lo mejor" not "solo". ALT 162 on your keyboard, if you were wondering.

Ha, ha. Didn't work. Try ALT + 0243.

Portman Road was a bit of a dump back then and the yokels, I mean locals, were a strange bunch. If you spike to them in your best scouse, they would stare intently at you, in a mildly threatening manner, and say "Yewhaaaarrrr?". God knows what that meant.

Cheers Neil - Now I'll be wasting more of my time trying all kinds of combinations to see what strange letters will appear.

My 6 year old son who we be the fifth generation of my family "To go to the game" this season, has just asked me if we can put the stickers up. Oh the irony!

See what you've started Joseph? All for a bloody sticker.

Neil, the keyboard shortcut to accented characters works if I do it after the fact... but for some reason I think Lyndon is still struggling to resolve, the text-rendering routine built in to these comment pages just doesn't like those special characters entered as part of comments.

I can usually guess what they should be, and fix them as and when.

Joseph, stick it on the dashboard. Bye the way what's a six year old kid doing up this late at night ?

It's a good advert for having your house burgled during home matches.

I'm keeping him up learning Scouse for the season to come. However, I imagine he will be learning a lot from the people around him as I did as a young lad.

Re 548
For anyone who's not a soucer a kid is local talk for a child, not a goat.

Joseph, well done for continuing to throw the grenades back for so long. For what it's worth, I agree with you. "I go the game" sounds crass, and I would agree that it serves to perpetuate the simpleton football fan stereotype. I think the hornets' nest response suggests more about some posters' insecurities than the point that you originally made. Later, kidda!

I don't like it. Yes, it's a dig at the RS followers that have never been to our old ground, and don't even know it's our old ground.

Only the locals are likely to understand both the grammar and the meaning straight away, and that's an own goal in this global day and age.

For what it's worth, me and my mates 'go the match', which is OK as we're not Everton marketeers!

Using that real estate for such a narrow message is a waste. It needs to be more inspirational than that.

I don't like it.

Fair enough, it's a term heard in the local area, but I actually find it a little cringey that the club are using it in their official marketing.

I follow the club on Twitter and I'm often found cringing at our matchday typist refers to 'Naisy', 'Bainsey', 'Ossie' etc.

I can't place why I find it quite so awkward to read - I just feel like the club sometimes tries to be too casual when a professional approach would be more befitting.

The club employs people like Graeme Sharp to be its middle man between itself and the fans. I think the club itself should stick to a more formal approach.

Love it, Bob Skelton 148 "I entered this world in Mill Road Maternity Hospital, and I still wank (and not masturbate) to the sound of Z-Cars."

What about a sticker "I wank to the sound of Z Cars."?

Does Sharpy 'go the game'? Defin-ATE-ly!

Shortly after the appearance of the Stewartesque "..in my heart..." sticker I offered the club's commercial (sic) department "Always Have, Always Will" – à la Ace of Base, Silence.

Their first option has expired so look out for the stickers in and around Williamson Square/Church St later this month

Tony Ateman:

Love it, Bob Skelton 148 "I entered this world in Mill Road Maternity Hospital, and I still wank (and not masturbate) to the sound of Z-Cars."
What about a sticker "I wank to the sound of Z Cars."?

Thank you for sharing.

Mike 601

Maybe it should be a sticky. Eugh!

Barry 598

Why does he say it like that?!?!?

That has wound me up for years!

Kev (527):

No-one will be able to hold a candle to us this season.

This has been a pointless thread about a "sticker"!!

And here's another pointless post on this thread. The draw for the second round of the Carling cup is live on sky after tonight's live game.

Now I can never remember the second round draw being live before. Until I suddenly remembered, Man Utd are in it!! So unless someone knows different, is this the first time the second round draw has been live?

If we are being pedantic about grammar and or syntax then the only problem with the sticker might be the punctuation. For more than fifty years, matchdays for me have been about going "the" game. Is there any other game to bother about?

My sticker is proudly displayed in my car window!

I love the pointless thread brigade! Do you read through hundreds of posts to comment on how pointless they are? If it's pointless don't read it! The end!!!!!