US Blues: Why Evertonians Root Against Liverpool

A few other reasons: the European ban; the growing differences in support base in that their support is now very different from what it used to be with a locational profile very different now from our own; and of course the fawning treatment afforded by the media to all things LFC.

Don't forget the Fat Spanish Waiter!

And I always thought it was because they lead the league in dive related penalty kicks awarded to them. Haha having been here a few years the history and the hatred is ingrained in this yank. YouNeverWinAgain isn't it?

Thank God for the mute button when those RS fans start singing that crap.

Because there scum bags its that simple.

When the press report about Hillsborough, it’s "liverpool fans" who died.
When they report about Heysel it’s "Football fans".

I apologise, my actual answer is, Ian Rush.

Oh how I hate posts that end with the hugely cheesy 'COYB' and the even worse 'ETID'.

Take away those and I agree with most of this.

All of the above reasons and to add to the discussion ......

When you think about it, the word Â’gobshiteÂ’ actually has no meaning.

When applied to a kopite, however, it fits perfectly.

I donÂ’t know if this will translate across the pond or if itÂ’s just one of those local things that people Â’getÂ’.

Kopites truly are gobshites.

Forgive my ignorance as I'm relatively new supporting Blues, what does ETID and KAGS stands for?

Rahul - Everton till I die and Kopites are gob shite.

Yank who has been coming on here for the last 8 years. Never heard of KAGS or ETID. Learn something new every day. Btw, my brother is a Red (by sheer dumb luck those were the teams that found us 8 years ago). Sadly haven't talked to him in four years and he is a Gobshite (issue is non football related).

Geoff, very interesting that you raise the almost entirely overlooked issue of our names.

As Evertonians know we were born as St Domingo's and later became Everton.

Our neighbours however delight in dodging the issue that as an independent entity (following the underhand dealings of Houlding which brought about the schism) that the first name chosen by the club now known as Liverpool was.....
Everton Athletic

And they adopted in blue as their chosen colours.

Ask a red about this, their reaction is utterly priceless.

I would also add that their very first fixture was the first time that an English club had fielded a team of entirely non-English players.

For this American it was a simple occurrence that solidified my hatred of el poo.

I had been told to hate them by a few ex-Pats here in Florida that are friends of mine - one of whom played in the FA youth cup for Everton. I, good soldier that I am, obliged.

I have no problem at all developing a healthy hatred for a rival. I'm a Red Sox fan. I HATE the Yankees with a searing quality.

So along for the ride I tell myself, "you must hate Liverpool."

Then, nary a year into my Blue Baptism, along comes one Jamie Carragher, who commits rape against Joleon Lescott in stoppage time I believe while Mark Clattenburg conveniently saw nothing wrong with it.

Something inside clicked.

I don't remember ever in my life, aside from when Jason Varitek face planted that Yankee twat Arod in the face at home plate in 2004, going that ballistic.

I stood up screaming every obscenity in the book. I even strung obscenities together that make no sense. From that time forward I loathed them. I hated that team and will forever until the day I die.

There's been SO many other reasons to hate them since then. Kuyt's two legged lunge at Neville, Suarez, their constant, "it's not our fault"....

They can go straight to hell all of them and I'd not bat an eyelash.

Then of course there is the 1915 betting scandal.......

When 4 of their players took payment to throw a match against Man Utd 2-0.

Everton fans coming out onto the streets to celebrate Liverpool's European cup winning open topped bus parade in their thousands (commented on in glowing terms by Dalglish) only to have Mcdermott and Hughes to start a chorus of 'Liverpool are magic Everton are tragic' from the town hall balcony followed by members of their team trying to piss from the town hall on Everton fans below did it for me.

>Every gobshite at school who couldn't kick a ball straight or get selected for the school teams deciding to 'go the game' with a scarf wrapped around their wrists while the rest of us, who could play, were tied up doing so on a Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning while the Kop was full of clueless morons who would fall over if you rolled a ball towards them and asked them to kick it back to you.

Jesus Christ himself made the word 'Kopite' rhyme with 'Gobshite'........t'was ever thus.

Mr (I presume) Traverse 332

When Liverpool FC play the Manchester United Football Club I want them both to lose, but, even saying that, ABL always applies

My New Year's resoloution!

Get up half an hour earlier every day so I can hate them for longer.

For my part, the two cup finals in the eighties hurt and I still shudder at the thought of Rush one-on-one with Big Nev. The Euro ban took the biscuit tough as, during the pre-Sky football years, only the winners made the European Cup and the TV. I couldn't understand as a young 'un why the blues weren't on the box or indeed in the draw.

Phil, you have a point there, I don't remember any of us kids in the late seventies early eighties who were decent players supporting Liverpool, we were all blues in our school side and club side.

ItÂ’s posts like this that make me see why so many LFC fans consider us a Â’small clubÂ’Â’. If not a small club, per se, than certainly possessed by a small club mentality.

For a large portion of Evertonians, our season is one worth remembering purely if we beat Liverpool; for Liverpool supporters, on the other hand, a season is worth talking about when they win something or, as in last seasonÂ’s case, come close to winning something.

Further, most Reds fans donÂ’t share this bizarre hatred for EFC. Quite the opposite; in point of fact... towards the end of last season, they seemed, for the most part, to be willing us into the Champions League with them!

DonÂ’t get me wrong, it means the world to me when we beat them and I know one day we WILL win at Anfield but, at the same time, I would request a degree of perspective from some blues. This innate disdain for our neighbors is petty, unsavory and absolutely pointless.

Nicky, I take it that you did grow up on Merseyside mate? You did go to school throughout the seventies and eighties in the area? If so, your comments are simply staggering and wrong. If you didn't, I forgive you because you'll never be able to understand.

We hate the shite, end off.

The few Scouser LFC supporters hate Everton with a passion so the feelings are mutual, I have a Red Shite mate in Perth, Australia who is the most bitter twisted twat you could ever discuss football with; other than that, he's a cracking fella.

They had 30 good years before that they were shite, my late dad laughed at them in the fifties, "Big boot up the middle merchants," he used to say, Shankly pulled them from the grave.

"...Further, most Reds fans don't share this bizarre hatred for EFC..." – Jesus! If I had a quid for every time I was called a "fuckin' bitter Blue" by some moron who can't even SPELL 'Anfield' and has no idea who the manager was before Shankly, I'd retire rich.

I find only those Liverpool fans who go back as far as the 50s have any semblance of fairness and respect. The Villa relegation party, the delight that we were banned with them, the celeberation that we lost the treble against Man Utd et al...

Wherever I go, proper football fans tell me they can't believe we Blues are from the same city as that lot, went to the same schools, drink in the same pubs etc; they say their false sense of entitlement is galling; the difference in attitude, perspective, self-importance and football knowledge is staggering.

Also, Everton Athletic and playing in Blue 1892 at Everton's reject ground Anfield, what a gang of tossers and glory hunters.

Nicky, Phil Bellis pretty much nails it. The crap we've had to put up with over the years from gobshites who couldn't point to Liverpool, never mind Anfield, on a map is ridiculous.

And this from a shower who call us bitter because we resented the fact that our best team in recent history were banned because of THEIR behaviour, a shower who posted online that the death of 39 Italians was "worth it to keep the Bitters out of Europe", a fanbase that clocks up more air miles going the match than our entire fanbase does on their annual holidays?

The arrogant band of Scandinavian* retards that attend that craphole over the park, with their orchestrated, flag-waving rendition of a show tune make me sick, and if that makes me a fan of a small club then, fine by me. I'd sooner put my dick in a blender than follow that odious club.

* And no offence to any Scandinavian Blues out there who, just by being Blue, are in no way related to the Reindeer-shagging glory hunters who clog up John Lennon Airport on match days.

And.... breathe....

Ray, brilliantly put!

Geoff, At the end of day, as we English say, Liverpool are the only team in the English Premier League who are the "offshoot" of their neighbours. They envy us our history but its our pedigree that really gets up their nose because they can never emulate it.

Nicky Styles, 120. You can't be serious surely? We are unfortunate enough to share a city with the most loathsome, cheating, delusional sports team on the planet (and about 8 of their fans). Everything about them is awful. Don't know if anybody else has seen the videos doing the rounds on Facebook etc. with commentary dubbed to some moronic reshite, well the only reason they are so funny is because they are very, very true.

And just in case anybody didn't know, they have won it 5 times - FACT

Wankers the lot of them

Andrew, the site you refer to is YNFA , Your Not Famous Anymore, and is hilarious. Some of the captions added to photos are genius.

Ray, I particlulary enjoyed the take on the Crystanbul game.

Thank you everyone for all the comments. It is a good education for us US Blues.

Just one more point in reply to Nicky (120): When Reds act like they don't hate our club, and even act like they wish us well, it is actually a condescending and arrogant attitude. It means they don't consider us to be a threat to them. They wouldn't have minded us finishing 4th last season, only as long as they had a shot at the title.

In a proper derby rivalry, you are supposed to root passionately against your rivals. Evertonians understand that, Liverpudlians don't.