Blues will be away at Bournemouth in Round 5

31/01/2016  45 Comments  [Jump to last]
Everton have been handed another away assignment in the FA Cup following this evening's draw for the Fifth Round.

The Blues' reward for beating Carlisle in today's Fourth Round tie is a trip to Bournemouth and the chance to atone for the cession of an injury-time goal at Vitality Stadium in November that saw them drop two points from a winning position.

The Cherries progressed to the last 16 yesterday with a 2-1 win at near-neighbours Portsmouth.  


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Vineet Sood
1 Posted 31/01/2016 at 18:29:40
Not bad considering the teams left!
John Atkins
2 Posted 31/01/2016 at 18:33:15
That horrible bastard Lawrenson took a look at the balls before drawing out Bournemouth at home!!!


Pleased considering the teams left in it.

Jim Bennings
3 Posted 31/01/2016 at 18:34:49
True,

A big step up however from the first two rounds and arguably the Cup properly starts now for us with a trip to the place where it all started going badly wrong on the last Saturday in November.

Got to at least get them back at Goodison for the replay.

Colin Glassar
4 Posted 31/01/2016 at 18:36:55
Arsenal at home, as usual.
Paul Mackie
5 Posted 31/01/2016 at 18:37:19
Quite glad we've got an away tie tbh given how we play our home games lately...
Peter Murray
6 Posted 31/01/2016 at 18:41:59
Good. A 2-0 win to us.
John Keating
7 Posted 31/01/2016 at 18:45:57
Jim,

It started going wrong around two seasons ago.

Ged Simpson
8 Posted 31/01/2016 at 18:52:49
Nonsense JK. Give it a rest
Jay Harris
9 Posted 31/01/2016 at 18:56:02
A chance to put things right with a new manager.
Minik Hansen
10 Posted 31/01/2016 at 19:01:51
Winning against with precious minutes to many players and rest to Rom, Gerry and Stones, drawing Bournemouth is sweet. COYB!
Paul Hughes
11 Posted 31/01/2016 at 19:04:06
Bournemouth's priority is to stay in the Premier League, they couldn't care about the FA Cup. They rested 10 men yesterday we will win this easy.
Kim Vivian
12 Posted 31/01/2016 at 19:19:40
We'll proceed at the first attempt. I'm sensing an upturn in our fortunes and see being last out of the hat as an omen – last out of the hat, last out of the comp (ie, winning it)... gulp!
Terence Tyler
13 Posted 31/01/2016 at 19:31:43
Kim. I've had that sensing feeling, many times this season. Unfortunately like an orgasm, it doesn't last long.
Kim Vivian
14 Posted 31/01/2016 at 19:36:36
Yes, Terence – and you have to keep repeating it, don't you.?
Peter Carpenter
15 Posted 31/01/2016 at 19:43:38
John, I thought he did that too. The cheat!
Tony Cheek
16 Posted 31/01/2016 at 19:48:09
Chelsea - Manchester City
Reading - WBA/Peterborough
Watford - Leeds
Shrewsbury - Manchester United
Blackburn - Liverpool/West Ham
Tottenham - Crystal Palace
Arsenal - Hull
Bournemouth - Everton
Paul Andrews
17 Posted 31/01/2016 at 20:11:07
He definitely looked into the pot before drawing the balls.
Brian Williams
18 Posted 31/01/2016 at 20:18:45
Good chance to put our last cockup there to bed and beat them at the first time of asking, which I think we will.
Dominic Tonge
19 Posted 31/01/2016 at 20:27:23
Not a horrid draw, glad we swerved Chelsea and Man City.
Chris James
20 Posted 31/01/2016 at 20:31:53
Pretty good draw considering – a totally winnable game and a chance to right the league wrong.

Considering the pressure at home and the fact we're better on the counter, I'm not unhappy to be away.

Gerard Carey
22 Posted 31/01/2016 at 21:31:10
A good draw, we will get through at the first attempt.
Nigel Munford
23 Posted 31/01/2016 at 21:56:05
It's looking pretty good for Peterborough!
Nigel Munford
24 Posted 31/01/2016 at 21:57:57
Would be good to draw them in the quarters.
Harold Matthews
26 Posted 31/01/2016 at 22:07:40
I'd go there without Barry. He guards the middle but leaves a big hole on one side. In the last match against Bournemouth, Eddie Howe spotted the hole, brought on a rightback to fill it, and he ripped us apart.
Brent Stephens
27 Posted 31/01/2016 at 22:09:06
Harold, I'm not sure how one man can guard the middle and also be expected to cover all sides.
Patrick Murphy
28 Posted 31/01/2016 at 22:10:51
Harold (#20),

I was thinking the same thing too. Without Stones and Barry, albeit against poor opposition, we looked a little bit quicker and fluid, but we'll have to see how we play without those two in the Premier League. But the manager probably will never do without Barry unless he has to.

Damian Nolan
29 Posted 01/02/2016 at 00:56:51
Barry has been the stand-out player this season by a long way so I guess we should find a way of doing without him.
Mike Gwyer
31 Posted 01/02/2016 at 04:33:14
Harold, don't often disagree with your comments but you are a bit off the mark regarding Barry & the Bournemouth game.

Think you will find that we were cruising at two-nil up with McCarthy & Barry holding the middle, both these guys were also covering the right or left side's which allowed our full backs to attack. However, RM being RM, took McCarthy off and put Cleverly on; total fuck-up, because we all know what happened next. Yeah, Barry did have both sides & the middle to cover as dream boy Cleverley did whatever it is that Cleverley does – usually "totally disappear".

For me, Barry has been a stand-out player this campaign.

Harold Matthews
32 Posted 01/02/2016 at 06:16:35
Mike. Whenever Barry plays, there is always a hole on one side of the pitch, depending on where the other DM plays. (I can't believe I'm having to explain this.)

Normally, McCarthy covers middle and right, leaving Barry to cover middle and left, as he did in his first season. The old No 4 and No 6 roles. Unfortunately, Barry no longer has the legs to continually get across to cover the left-back so we are left with a big hole. An 18-month-long hole. Ask Garbutt, ask Galloway, ask Oviedo, ask Baines.

In the Bournemouth game, the huge hole was there from the beginning and, during the half-time break, Eddie Howe decided to do something about it. They came out for the 2nd half with ex-Spurs lad, Adam Smith, in the right-back position and he immediately pushed forward into the hole and started to give us trouble. McCarthy went off in the 67th minute but Bournemouth were already all over us. Gosling, Stanislas, Ritchie, King and Co fighting like tigers and protesting every decision.

In the 80th minute, we were defending deep and blocking one shot after another but Adam Smith finally smacked a rocket into our net. You know the rest. We thought we had won the game in the last minute but the ball came across to Adam Smith who went on a run past statuesque Barry and Cleverley before slipping the ball to the guy on the left who made the assist for the equalizer.

Against Carlisle, before the subs, We had Cleverley in the No 4 role and McCarthy in the No 6 role where he could cover Oviedo. A very balanced line-up. No holes, apart from Jags trying his suicidal high line now and again.

Let's get this straight. Barry is a favourite of mine but, for over 18 months, we have conceded goals by the bagfull and he and Howard are always present. Something is not right. Something has to change. Yesterday, whilst discussing our defensive weaknesses, a pundit suggested that our back four were not getting proper protection and he might well be right. Let's hope we fix it.

Dave Pritchard
33 Posted 01/02/2016 at 07:31:21
Droppoing Barry for an important game seems like a bad idea to me, unless it is for Messi or Ronaldo.
Ian Jones
34 Posted 01/02/2016 at 07:31:37
Harold and anyone else. Do you think a fit Gibson could take on the Barry role or play alongside. I have always liked him but assume he's too similar to Barry. Not everyone's favourite due to his injury record but knows and reads the game. Decent passer. Tends to want to go forward.
Tony Abrahams
35 Posted 01/02/2016 at 08:49:42
Thanks Harold, it's a very good point. Barry has probably been our best player this season, but when a team get after us, I also think he can be caught out because of his lack of pace.

Same with Lukaku regards Kone. When we are on top and getting at teams this system might work, but when the attacking intensity dies, we have nobody filling in on the left, which makes Barry's job virtually impossible.

How good is Lukaku without that help from Kone? I personally don't think it's worth sacrificing our shape to find out, and also think it's a major reason why we are conceding way too many goals. No wonder we are 12th.

Dave Pritchard
36 Posted 01/02/2016 at 09:21:15
Harold 25, apologies for being thick and having to have things explained.
Paul Andrews
37 Posted 01/02/2016 at 09:38:14
Harold, Tony.

4-3-3 or 4-1-4-1 would solve the issue. We don't have the players to play our current system, in my opinion.

Peter Carpenter
38 Posted 01/02/2016 at 10:08:16
Interesting to watch McCarthy yesterday. Maybe I'm just seeing what I want to but he seemed more involved, more influential and taking more responsibility.

Apart from a brief spell last season when he made forward runs and scored a few goals, when McCarthy plays with Barry, he seems to do less. When Besic plays with Barry he still seems to do more. Maybe Barry and McCarthy are just too similar, or perhaps McCarthy is overawed in some way by Barry?

Barry has been very good this season but the time will come for a big decision there. I also got the impression that McCarthy would make a good ball-playing centre back if needed.

Big decisions, just Roberto's thing. I suppose the Grim Reaper will be back in goal on Wednesday.

Amit Vithlani
39 Posted 01/02/2016 at 10:22:46
I don't think the issue is necessarily with Barry. Watching the Swansea game, I noticed that his position was dead centre (if anything more to the right). Would be interesting to get his heat map.

The issue is the positioning of the team. We are either too deep and are not able to press properly, meaning that we concede a huge number of shots on our goal (there are statistics floating around showing a substantial increase in shots on our goal this season which is comparable to relegated teams), or, when we attack, the DMs are not sitting but instead further up the pitch, trying to win the ball back in the opposition half.

How often have Barry or McCarthy sat between the two CB providing cover when we are attacking, as you would expect a DM to do? Or wide covering the full backs? Not too often. McCarthy can be found near the halfway line applying a press on his own (whilst his team mates watch on), Barry a little behind him, positioned to pick up anything lose. If the opposition go route one and have pace upfront, on numerous occasions are two CB's are left alone to battle it out.

This was borne out by an appearance Martinez made on MNF where his tactics were questioned by Jamie Carragher. He was shown a still where his two CBs were the only 2 players back and he said he expected them to win their individual battles if we were facing a direct counter attack.

I think if Barry and McCarthy were instructed to play as covering midfielders, sat in their half ready to fill spaces behind the full backs, you would see them providing better cover.

Harold Matthews
40 Posted 01/02/2016 at 10:50:45
Sorry Dave. You popped up from nowhere. I was trying to explain things to our old friend Mike G who, by the way, should have been fuming at the way his favourite blue, Oviedo, was cruelly exposed in the Chelsea game.

With Barry in the middle and our other DM, Besic, marking Willian, Oviedo was getting murdered by 2 or 3 Chelsea lads in the 2nd half. With no halfback on that side and Deulofeu in his own little world, Oviedo was being unfairly blamed for all crosses coming in from their left wing.

Harold Matthews
41 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:21:54
Yes Amit, Barry appears to be a vital player but he does leave one side vacant and something is very wrong with our defence. Maybe the trouble starts further up front, as Tony suggests. Personally, when I look at Spurs, Klopps bunch, Leicester and West Ham, I don't see any passengers. When I look at us I see plenty.

Another interesting point from the Barcelona game the other day. With every man in the box defending a corner or free-kick, whenever the ball was cleared, even to the opposition, every player dashed out of the box at full speed. We tend to stay deep.

I don't know what the answer is but most teams get it right while we remain wide open.

Mike Gwyer
42 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:58:13

Harold

Barry is not in the team for his speed as even at Villa he was no "Husain Bolt". However, his positional play and ball winning is second to none hence the mega transfer fee paid by City. But yeah, I will agree that your game analysis is fairly spot on but for me, will RM replace Barry?? Even with a fit Besic and McCarthy I don't think RM will do that..

IMO I thought Oviedo had a good game at Chelsea, even playing at RB. But oh yes, you are so right, whoever plays at full back for us and has Deulofeu playing in front of them must know that they are in for a long afternoon.

Tony Abrahams
43 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:01:04
Especially when he's replaced by Kone, Mike!
James Marshall
44 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:21:11
The issue isn't just Barry – the issue is the system as a whole. You could play Keane/Viera etc in their pomp in our midfield and we'd still be overrun at the back.

Supporters keep calling out one player or another all season, and making them the sole reason we're defensively inept, but the bottom line is the system.

The reason we concede so many goals, is never down to one player alone.

Mike Gwyer
45 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:27:27
Tony.

Totally agree. We are seeing teams coming to Goodison and using this high pressing game, with their forward players doing a double shift and really earning their wedge.

Then I watch our lot!!! Pressing, do they have any idea what this means, we all know who they are; Kone, Deulofeu, Lukaku to an extent and Barkley – they will all watch the opposition play the ball out of defence. Actually Deulofeu has had me in stitches, I think it was against Stoke, as he seemed to be having a conversation with his opposite number who was in the process of playing a totally sweeeet ball to his forward players. You know what, I think Deulofeu actually acknowledged that it was a totally sweeeet ball.

Yep, we can take it that RM has absolutely no time for the pressing game.

Harold Matthews
46 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:37:52
Yes James, you're probably right but what is the system? I'm still trying to work it out. We seem to play different ways with different players.
James Marshall
47 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:43:44
Harold - essentially it's 'attack, score goals and forget about defending until we're all chasing back towards our own goal'

Other than that I can't put too fine a point on it either!

Harold Matthews
48 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:43:34
Nice one James. A spot-on description.

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