Lukaku buoyed by another win

01/03/2016  85 Comments  [Jump to last]

Romelu Lukaku was satisifed with Evertonís 3-1 win over Aston Villa this evening, a result which pushes them into the top half the table again, at least until the completion of the Wednesday fixtures.

The Belgian, who notched a record 17th Premier League goal of the season for the club, was asked if a third win in four games was proof that the Blues have rediscovered some momemtum in the League.

"Yeah, I think you can say that,Ē Lukaku said. "We went on a warm-weather training camp and it did us a lot of good. You know, bonding with the team and working really hard and now we know what we have to do so itís very exicting times for Everton.

"I think we started well and that was the plan, really. We knew we had to play at a higher tempo than [Aston Villa] because they want to save themselves and we did really well.

"We defended well and attacked well so itís promising."

Asked if he felt Everton could have been more clinical against a Villa side who struggled to contain on the occasions† when they were in full flow, Lukaku agreed but stressed that getting the victory was the most important thing.

"We should have scored more but I think at least getting a 3-1 win away with good football, itís good. We have another difficult game at the weekend so we just have to focus ourselves on that.

"Iím evolving and growing as a player and I want to become a better player and help my team and Iím I [scored again]. Now I just have to keep going."

His team-mate and, by most accounts man of the match, Ramiro Funes Mori was similarly happy to score, even if he was disappointed not to preserve the clean sheet.

"For me, I I have to defend first," the Argentina international said. "It was unlucky that we couldnít keep a clean sheet. We were doing a great job.

"But as a player I always have ambitions to score goals, to be in the box to get closer [so I can score].

"Itís a weapon I can train in and help the team with that."  


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Trevor Lynes
1 Posted 01/03/2016 at 23:14:57
Let's hope he can add more goals and really settle into our side next season. He is really important to us; if we can get a player dove tailing with him up front, he can develop into a world class player. With new investment, perhaps we can tempt him to stay along with Stones and Barkley.We still need right back cover for Coleman and just one or two real crowd pleasers who can lift the team and the crowd. I do not like to see us having make shift right backs!

Also I reckon we will need to find a replacement for Barry soon, either from amongst our youngsters or somewhere else. I would like to see either McCarthy or Besic playing alongside a midfield play maker who can score plus create for others.

We seem to have quite a decent bench lately and that makes us much more potent. Mirallas and Deulofeu are not 90-minute players and a form of rotation may well be required to get us through the season.

David Price
2 Posted 01/03/2016 at 23:18:27
Banana skin avoided. Job done, raise the standards on Saturday for West Ham though.
Rob Hooton
3 Posted 01/03/2016 at 23:50:05
Hope the lads were saving their energy for the weekend as, for the exception of Lennon, Funes Mori and couple of others, they were pure gash!

Must have been a holiday camp as opposed to a training camp as I thought Aston Villa were the better team for large parts of the game. Fortunately, they are hopeless.
Brian Porter
4 Posted 01/03/2016 at 23:53:30
To be fair, it wasn't a particularly great team performance, though Funes Mori and Lennon were superb. Both are real scrappers, who will chase a lost cause and Funes Mori in particular will literally throw himself into space to try to get his head on the ball. Only their keeper prevented him grabbing a second at the end. With his goal and an assist he was my man of the match, Lennon a close second.

I can't believe someone on the preview thread wanted them both dropped and Stones and Del Boy selected in their places. Well, John Stones did come on in the end and his poor defensive play contributed to us conceding a needless goal and losing out on what up till then had been a nailed on clean sheet.

At present I'd say Funes Mori is our best CB with Jags and Stones competing to play alongside him. With four goals to his name he is also proving to be a potent goal threat at set pieces, something we've lacked for so long under Martinez. How can we afford to leave him out?

Good result though and three points in the bag though anything less would have been a sacking offence for Martinez, whose subs were baffling again. Surely a perfect game to give Niasse half an hour to see what he could do, but no, we got three minutes!
Ernie Baywood
5 Posted 02/03/2016 at 01:11:10
I'd say that Funes Mori and Stones was a disaster, Brian. Jags is the one who needs to be there regardless of the form of the other two.

Funes Mori has earned the place alongside him but I'm sure Stones will be back. He's an excellent player with real character. We should just be pleased that we have been able to add Funes Mori so that Stones' first form downturn of his career could be managed.

Interesting to see Martinez experiment with 3 centre backs for the last 20 or so. It was always a favoured formation of his... maybe he now feels he has the personnel to reconsider it?

Don Alexander
7 Posted 02/03/2016 at 01:50:17
Ernie, the next time Martinez comes up with a plan that delivers a result I'll visit my town hall steps. He is terminal bollocks, for seven consecutive seasons.
Ernie Baywood
8 Posted 02/03/2016 at 04:07:01
Something else for Lukaku to be buoyed by... Amo rates him.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03l4ytn

He'd be going crazywild for sure.

Harold Matthews
10 Posted 02/03/2016 at 05:32:31
Apart from Funes Mori, Lennon, Lukaku and Mirallis, we looked a weary outfit bereft of ideas and bogged down by possession football. The Villa defence had periods of rest during the game and it showed when they came at us in the 2nd half. Our defence had no rest at all. They were either passing the ball to one another or chasing the opposition.

McCarthy, who seemed slightly more mobile than of late and even used his left foot, demonstrated his pin-point backward passing skills, Coleman dithered all night and 6'-2" Barkley hit corners across to smaller team-mates in the box. Not a great night for Ross but I half expected it after the warm weather break.

A very welcome three points but we'll need to wake up before the West Ham match. Sorry to see Oviedo limp off but Baines definitely looked back up to speed. As Trevor mentioned, it's a pity we don't have someone who can give Seamus a rest. Pochettino rotates the hard working Spurs fullbacks quite frequently. They are a major part of his attacking strategy and he likes to keep them fresh.

Darryl Ritchie
11 Posted 02/03/2016 at 06:25:47
From what I saw, Lukaku didn't do too much wrong. Rom's first touch and hold up play is getting better every game. Mirallas and Lennon played well. The problem (if you can say that anything in a 3-1 victory was a problem) was that Barry, McCarthy and Barkley were not up to their usual standard. Against a more accomplished side, with that performance, we would have been punished.

A very handy three points, but I hope that no one in an Everton shirt is under the illusion that a repeat of that performance will be enough come Saturday.

Paul Andrews
12 Posted 02/03/2016 at 07:29:04
And so you should be young man.

You are the benificiary of a team set up by the manager in a style that has Everton as the top scorers from open play in the Premier League, and you have just equaled Kanchelskis's record with 11 games to go.

Your manager has maintained the goalscoring record while improving the defensive side of it over the last 6 or 7 games.

Trevor Peers
13 Posted 02/03/2016 at 08:17:21
Lukaku worked hard for his goal, that was good to see, OK he wasn't in the best of form in a lacklustre team display that produced a much needed win against a piss poor Villa team.

Roberto still cannot iron out the defensive weakness that allows blind panic to grip the team for a 35 minute period in virtually every game we play in, no matter who the opposition are.

Until he overcomes this weakness I fail to see how we can be satisfied with him as manager. The upcoming home games will also highlight his inability to inspire the team at GP and this is another glaring fault line in his make up.

Jim Bennings
14 Posted 02/03/2016 at 08:17:51
Lukaku needs a more reliable man than Ross Barkley behind him supporting him.

Barkley has skills in abundance but he still has problems dragging himself into certain games; last night, he could have really took the game by the scruff of the neck but, for whatever reason, he didn't.

I still think that money will be used to find a creative option in the attacking central midfield area to help ease that burden on Barkley; I'd have been tempted once it went 3-0 to put Deulofeu in the middle behind Lukaku and see him ping some of those lovely balls from the middle of the pitch again like earlier this winter.

Anyway, a good solid away win at a ground that's not always been favourable in terms of Everton wins; we can't complain.

On to Saturday and West Ham will be a different kettle of fish altogether, a right old tough game keeping the likes of Payet, Antonio, and Noble quiet.

Paul Andrews
15 Posted 02/03/2016 at 08:24:13
Jim, Great post.

I see Barkley in a deeper position in the long term. As the attacking part of a midfield 3 hopefully.

Deulofeu is a natural for the role behind the forward. His ability to spot a pass, his speed carrying the ball up to the 18-yard line. An added bonus would be that his stamina would be under less pressure than when he plays wide and has to get up and down.

Jim Bennings
16 Posted 02/03/2016 at 08:34:42
Agreed Paul.

I also think the opposition would be a bit bamboozled to see Deulofeu operating in the middle, they'd be expecting to see him attack the wing going on the outside always but I just feel there's a real weapon there if we, or rather Martinez, is willing to be flexible and try something different out.

I like Barkley but he can't carry the can as the only real attacking central midfielder, we need other options too.

Jim Bennings
17 Posted 02/03/2016 at 08:41:35
A prime example will be the West Ham game on Saturday.

You're coming up against a team that is well drilled away from home with a rough, dogged defence. It could be a game where Ross struggles to create on his own; if it is, then we get nothing else creativity-wise from the middle of the pitch. I'd like to see Deulofeu, or even Mirallas for a spell come inside and see what's happening.

We are seeing a totally different side to Aaron Lennon from the pure out-and-out winger at Spurs; he was never known as getting that many goals there due to playing so wide... but at Everton, he's finding positions inside more, where he can hurt teams with goals, not just crosses.

Anthony Dwyer
18 Posted 02/03/2016 at 08:43:24
Jim, I can understand your point to a degree, in that Barkley may need assistance in the attacking midfield roll, but I certainly don't see it as he needs replacing in that roll.

Ross has excelled in the attacking roll, and although he may not have grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck, he didn't really have to as the game was over before he needed to.

Ross is scoring and assisting at a rate to outshine almost every player in his position in the Premier League, even though he hasn't always been used in the attacking roll this season. His help yesterday came from Lennon, who again supported the attack well, and Mirallas who played well, especially as he's only used periodically.

Anyways, with the investment in the club, I'd see Barry's position under threat a bit more, although he has been good this season. I do agree that Barkley may eventually fill a box-to-box roll with Besic and or McCarthy sitting in, but I'm not sure that will happen for at least another full season.

Paul Andrews
19 Posted 02/03/2016 at 08:46:56
Jim,

It's the 6-8-10 adage that coaches like:

6 – defensive midfielder, Barry
8 – box-to-box, Besic
10 – furthest forward, Barkely

I think Besic has got goals in him to support Barkley.

Jim Bennings
20 Posted 02/03/2016 at 08:47:19
I know, Anthony, I see what you're saying but if you want to be a successful team you need options too – more than just one choice. Look at the West Brom second half: it was crying out for something different to break them down but it became predictable.

Barkley doesn't need replacing, – just in certain games, we can prove our flexibility by changing things up.

Tony Abrahams
21 Posted 02/03/2016 at 08:49:37
Never watched the game, but I think that's where a manager should earn his corn.

The game seemed like an extension of the training camp we had just been on, so why not experiment a little bit more once the game was won.

He may have tried 3 centre-backs, and 2 wing backs, and if he did, I'm sure that would have been the perfect opportunity to let Gerry roam through the middle.

Brian Hill
22 Posted 02/03/2016 at 08:59:22
Harold, spot on, as you so often are. This Villa team is bad beyond belief, yet we played as though on the training ground. A serious effort could have seen a rugby score. Mirallas was very good, he made a difference, hopefully enough to be retained on Saturday.
Martin Mason
23 Posted 02/03/2016 at 09:28:56
I thought that it was an excellent performance last night and a very good continuation of, WBA excepted, a very good run that any team and its supporters could be proud of. The WBA result was a travesty and they have shown that they can be very good too in recent games, we gave away a very stupid goal and they pulled up the drawbridge and mugged us. For those who missed it we won away last night 1-3 although anybody just going by comments here would think we had lost.

In Ross Barkley we have a lad, a local lad to boot, who has become one of our best players, an automatic pick for England and who has the potential to become a world best. He has massive skill and has the potential from his position to score 15+ a season. Last night he was not as dynamic as usual but still had a very good game and had two assists last night. He didn't have a poor game by any rational standards. Lukaku didn't have a poor game in the game I watched which was against a Villa side that was trying very hard and has a couple of players who would make it into much better teams and can trouble the best (Ayew and Gestede). We would have had a clean sheet last night if we hadn't changed formation and brought Stones on.

RM apart, things look amazingly positive for us and I see us playing very well against West Ham on Saturday. They will have a much better chance of doing well if we support them.

Helen Mallon
24 Posted 02/03/2016 at 09:32:29
For the plaudits Lennon has got, which he deserves, he is not a wing back. Messing around with 3 at the back was foolish it cost us a clean sheet.

Ross gave sloppy passes away all evening and should have been replaced with Geri getting game time. If he goes 3 at the back, Baines and Coleman are your wing backs for sure.

I also think Stones is expendable and £40 mil will do nicely.

Liam Reilly
25 Posted 02/03/2016 at 10:14:46
I reckon Everton could win the PL, FA Cup and CL and some on here would moan.

Professional performance; well done lads.

Martin Mason
27 Posted 02/03/2016 at 10:25:26
If there was an FA Cup for complaining, we would win it.
Shane Corcoran
28 Posted 02/03/2016 at 10:41:53
Liam, I think if there were 100 threads on ToffeeWeb someone would moan about others moaning.

I saw the first 50 minutes. We got a goal from a corner and a good breakaway. Lennon and Funes Mori were good, the rest varied between medicore and average. Should I spin my opinion in some other way so that it doesn't qualify as a moan?

Dave Winter
30 Posted 02/03/2016 at 10:54:31
I agree with Liam and Martin, 23 & 24. We sing and dance, cheering the team along away from home and we've lost one. We moan and groan and sit waiting to have a go at our own players and particularly the manager at home. What's our home record and is it time we tried something different at home to see if maybe, we could also be playing a part in our form???
Jim Bennings
31 Posted 02/03/2016 at 11:26:22
Martin,

Ross Barkley is a big big talent, a really good footballer, no doubt about it, but I don't know how much longer we can keep calling him 'potential', I think the lad is 22 now, still young but he's at that age now over the next year or so when he stops being potential and becomes the real deal.

I'm not sure I'd go as far to say he'll become a "world great".

World greats over the years, to name a few, like Iniesta, Xavi, Zidane, Bergkamp, Pirlo, Zola etc. I'm not sure Barkley will ever really fall into that category of world great midfielders but he can certainly be a big player for Everton.

Peter Roberts
32 Posted 02/03/2016 at 12:00:14
17 goals... if he played like he can when he wants in more games, he would be nailed-on golden boot winner.

He's a bit like the student who got B grade without working... pisses the teachers off because he should be an A+.

Steve Brown
33 Posted 02/03/2016 at 12:25:17
Imagine how many goals Rom would score with a creative central attacking midfielder like Payet behind it. Not a criticism of Ross, who has been courage personified this season in looking to open up play and make things happen. Just not sure he is a natural in this position.
Andrew Ellams
34 Posted 02/03/2016 at 12:31:20
Does anybody have the stats for who creates the most goals/chances for Lukaku?
Graham Mockford
35 Posted 02/03/2016 at 12:52:05
Peter Roberts,

You never miss an opportunity do you? Never a discussion goes by without you wanting to tell us how lazy he is and how much he under-performs.

Do you honestly think he wakes up on match day and thinks "Do I fancy trying hard today?" I suspect you actually do.

Let's not forget it's 22 goals in all competitions, more than any other striker in the Premier League, yet you think he merits a B?

No player is above criticism, but your consistent carping about a player who will be attracting offers in excess of £50m is just bizarre.

I always like to point out your September comment

"His ability as a footballer is very poor. I don't think I've seen a player with such a poor touch, he can't jump, his runs lack intelligence for this level, and his right foot has absolutely no sense of direction – it's his swinger."

That was utter bullshit at the time, and five months later, looks even more ridiculous.

Michael Williams
36 Posted 02/03/2016 at 13:16:19
Martin Mason (#24). Best post I have read ever on TW. Thanks for making my day. Still laughing as I type.
Henrik Lyngsie
37 Posted 02/03/2016 at 13:35:23
Liam (#23) that is because we are some who also take the League Cup serious.
Steve Brown
38 Posted 02/03/2016 at 14:33:05
Andrew @ 30, not sure but my guess would be Deulofeu.
Peter Roberts
39 Posted 02/03/2016 at 15:09:38
All about opinions, Graham, and in my opinion, I don't know what's more annoying: Lukaku and his half-bothered efforts... or the fans who hero-worship a player that doesn't put a shift in unless he's up for it.

If he did more performances that gave the impression he cared as much about the shirt as the new boy, Funes Mori, then I would be far more appreciative of him.

Dave Abrahams
40 Posted 02/03/2016 at 15:20:24
Peter (#35), so would I.
Steve Carse
41 Posted 02/03/2016 at 17:25:04
Thing is, with Barkley, and none more so than last night, was that he is given so much licence to go where he wants that his team mates never know when they pick up the ball where he's going to be. So the midfield becomes hesitant with the man in possession invariably first having to look around to find him. Slick, first time passes become a rarity.

That said, for Blues there's no finer sight in football than when he's on the ball and driving forward to try and open up an opposing defence.

Alan Bodell
42 Posted 02/03/2016 at 18:50:14
Peter #35, you nailed it mate, I've given up trying to explain why Lukaku is lazy and expendable but many on here only see things through stats and rose tinted goggles.
Graham Mockford
43 Posted 02/03/2016 at 18:54:09
Peter / Alan

Just out of interest who do you think has been a better centre forward at this club in the last 20 years?

Mark Gardiner
44 Posted 02/03/2016 at 18:59:34
I was very pleased with the win but again Martinez and his subs completely astounded me. We have a new signing that cost us £13.5 million plus who is not match fit, he needs minutes on the pitch to get up to speed.

We went 3-0 up with about 30minutes to go so why not throw Niasse on for the last 30 minutes and give him that time to get some crucial minutes under his belt? The game was won and we are playing on Saturday so why not take Rom off and play Niasse up top and let's see what he can do and get him some match fitness?

Any other Premier League manager would have had the common sense to do that but not our manager. He waited until there were 10 minutes left before trying to bring Niasse on. Maybe take on of our defensive mids off and let Niasse play the final 30 minutes in support of Rom? Let's see what options we could have with this player when we were home and dry for this match.

Martinez just doesn't seem to have any common sense in him at all. It's like his mission is to do everything that is opposite to common sense. Despite our recent good run, I simply don't have any faith in our manager. If I were the new investor, I would trust him to spend money on players but as a director of football or chief scout and not as our manager.

Alan Bodell
45 Posted 02/03/2016 at 19:29:27
Graham, the fact we haven't been able to afford any top striker for the last 20 yrs. does in no way excuse the current incumbent's effort and desire to make himself available at every opportunity for twice a week at most for his very handsome pay packet.

I'm not picking him apart on the odd lack of lethargy, it's every fucking game.
Les Martin
46 Posted 02/03/2016 at 19:48:47
Lukaku is 22, and scoring 17 goals in the toughest league in the world. Name me another player of his age who would be as prolific. Also he is not done yet.

Barkley 22, already some are foolishly saying he will not be as good as this player or that, the ones quoted were only exceptional at later stages in their career. So many of our players are still very young at not the finished article, yet we expect them to be.

As we know, keep the squad together and watch us become the team that others aspire to be.
Martin Mason
47 Posted 02/03/2016 at 19:59:54
One day soon, somebody who actually knows about the striker role in soccer and can understand basically what is happening and what individual players are doing in a team will pay a lot of money for Lukaku because he is a fantastic player and incredible athlete.

The average fan will stay a fan and will blunder along not really knowing what he's seeing week in and week out making ridiculous statements on internet forums.

Peter Roberts
48 Posted 02/03/2016 at 20:19:13
Graham Mockford, based on the last 20 years, Wayne Rooney is the best striker we have had.

He played with an attitude that the lumbering Belgian would do well to replicate. Personally I would have loved to have seen Duncan Ferguson play in this side were very poor and some were unlucky 25 goals no problem. You wouldn't see Deulofeu tear his hair out after another 6 yard box guided missile goes unconverted.

It's also not lost on me that he cost nearly 3 times as much as our next expensive striker in that time... so yeah, a bit of effort please, Rom.

Funny isn't it, Liverpool spend more on his similarly lazy compatriot and none of their fans hold back in slating his efforts. I guess they don't feel privileged to have a £30m striker.

Dave Abrahams
49 Posted 02/03/2016 at 20:20:24
Martin every Evertonian knows about strikers, we all just have different opinions of them and how good they are.
Andy Crooks
50 Posted 02/03/2016 at 20:21:01
Martin #43, spot on first paragraph. What on earth does the second paragraph mean?
Peter Roberts
51 Posted 02/03/2016 at 21:16:29
Martin, one day soon, people who want to give the impression they know a bit about football will not refer to it as 'soccer'.

Gavin Johnson
52 Posted 02/03/2016 at 21:25:38
Peter,

I admire your optimism about big Dunc scoring 25 goals in this current Everton side. I'm guessing you're making that prediction in the parallel universe where the big man stayed free of persistent injuries and red cards.

Graham Mockford
53 Posted 02/03/2016 at 21:37:22
Alan (#42)

Firstly you think his goals are "stats". Well of course in the true meaning of the word you are correct but of course it's a pretty fucking important stat. That is the purpose of the game to score goals. That is why goal scorers are such a premium. And I guess much to your chagrin he keeps knocking them in.

Let me just remind you 22 goals in 34 games, more than any other striker in the PL, more than any striker for us in 30 years. But of course he's not really trying is he? He's a lazy bastard

His lethargy is 'every fucking game'. Pure and utter bollocks even with my rose tinted glasses (I don't have the goggles)

Peter #45

You have been slagging him off all season, you didn't reply on your comments I quoted. Is that still your opinion? Do you still stand by what you said in September?

Duncan Ferguson scoring 25. Do me a favour. Even playing in the Rangers 9 in a row side he managed 2 in 15 games. His goal scoring record was distinctly second rate for most of his career.

You talk about lazy players, well Duncan was a classic example of a player not making the most of his abilities.Add that to his appalling disciplinary record and his injury record and Lukaku is already a better player than he ever was.

Of course he did have an Everton tattoo.

As for Benteke being a "similarly lazy compatriot", I think I would be complaining if I I'd spent £30m and got 7 goals in 28 games but of course we haven't we've got 22 goals in 34 games. We also have 58 in 115 and someone worth twice what we paid.

But keep on hating, guys, and I'll keep on 'hero worshiping'.


Peter Roberts
54 Posted 02/03/2016 at 21:57:39
Maybe Graham we are entitled to say he's lazy because it's our opinion... Maybe we actually watch him.... Maybe he would have scored the first goal last night if he wasn't so half-arsed in getting forward, allowing Lennon to cut across and get ahead.

Get angry in his defense as much as you like; your comments will not change my opinion only the player himself. In my opinion, Lukaku is hot and cold, not just in his scoring but in his application.

Graham Mockford
55 Posted 02/03/2016 at 21:59:14
Peter

You still agree with the post I quoted?

Andy Crooks
56 Posted 02/03/2016 at 22:03:37
I believe we are lucky to have Lukaku. I think he will be a world class striker and I hope it is with Everton.
Peter Roberts
57 Posted 02/03/2016 at 22:10:25
Graham that I think his runs lack intelligence? Yes. Poor in the air? Yes. Right foot is a swinger? Yes. Touch is better but still poor.

He's tweeting love for PSG by all accounts.... any money says he will be there. Get a nice £40-50m and I'll be delighted with that.

Graham Mockford
59 Posted 02/03/2016 at 22:15:11
Peter

And just a point. You think Lukaku couldn't be arsed scoring a goal last night. Obviously he was thinking Mirallas is running down the wing, I've decided I'm too lazy to make a run and score a goal. I mean he doesn't like scoring goals does he?

He didn't make a run and make a great header that led to the corner just before he made another run to get on the end of Funes Mori's cross to score. Maybe this laziness just comes on in phases?

No, of course he made a run to the far post which actually created space for Lennon to run in to. But of course in your world he's lazy. You're right it is your opinion. It still doesn't stop that opinion being a total pile of horseshit – much like your view of him as a footballer you expressed just four months ago.

Brent Stephens
60 Posted 02/03/2016 at 22:21:39
"Get a nice £40-50m and I'll be delighted with that."

Who's going to pay that much for a guy whose "runs lack intelligence", who "is poor in the air", whose "right foot is a swinger", whose "touch is poor"????

Michael Penley
61 Posted 02/03/2016 at 22:22:44
Not a complaint, but I don't remember Rom scoring outside the box much. Maybe I'm wrong here. He scores a lot of goals at close range. It just seems odd for such powerful legs to not score the odd long range goal.
Peter Roberts
62 Posted 02/03/2016 at 22:27:03
Graham, you repeatedly quote stats to support a player who we aren't criticising for his stats. We are criticising him for things we see in what he doesn't do on the pitch 'fundamentals'.

I'll be blunt, barring the Stoke game, in 2016 he's been shit. Lazy, half arsed, but hey its OK! He scored a tap in against a shocking team and a couple of others to beef those stats up.... 1 in 4 or something...

Here's a question, describe his games against Swansea, Palace or WBA. Not stats, games.

Graham Mockford
63 Posted 02/03/2016 at 22:29:00
Peter

Surely he's not worth £40-50m. I mean based on your opinion we'd be lucky to get our money back.

'He's tweeting his love for PSG by all accounts'. Have you seen the tweet or is this just more of your dislike of the guy?

I assume you mean the tweet about Moura's goal against St Etienne? It was a pretty good effort if you haven't seen it.

Maybe you'd rather your footballers be out on the lash or banging wags than sat watching football on a Wednesday night.

Peter Roberts
64 Posted 02/03/2016 at 22:30:17
Brent, did you not watch Sterling in the League Cup Final? £50m right there – shocking footballer.

You see football is funny, players get sold for daft amounts even when fans know they are shite. David Luiz and Andy Carroll told me that.

Eric Holland
65 Posted 02/03/2016 at 22:39:15
Peter, who should we buy with the meager pittance we will get for him seeing as he is so useless?

Do you think he might just laze his way to 20 Premier League goals for us in this fantastic season we are having?

Might just fluke a few in of his fat arse, a couple of deflections, another diabolical couple of penalties!!

Naa... he is shite.

Brent Stephens
66 Posted 02/03/2016 at 22:39:41
So some clubs pay stupid money for shit players (though not sure Sterling or Luiz were that shit when signed). So we're going to have to hope for a club that can't see how shit (in your view) Lukaku is but still pay up to £50m?! Which club will be that naïve?
Peter Roberts
67 Posted 02/03/2016 at 22:55:03
I never said Lukaku is shit, I inferred Sterling, Carroll and Luiz are.

Lukaku is a solid goalscorer who, in my opinion, frustratingly short changes the fans and himself. Should be so much more, but hey, that's enough for you boys that's fine. For me, he is very frustrating.

Someone did a very good piece on him on here not too long ago.

Jamie Barlow
68 Posted 02/03/2016 at 22:56:56
There's no doubt that Lukaku is a top striker. He scores goals and his overall play is getting better and better. Long may he continue for us.

I not sure about his effort though. I can't help thinking if he played most games like he played against Stoke (I think it was), he'd be getting closer to 25 goals already. I want to see him smashing defenders all over. I know he can do it because I've seen him play like that. He can be an absolute nightmare. I just don't think we see it enough.

I still think he's great though.

Eric Holland
69 Posted 02/03/2016 at 22:57:44
You didn't???

"I'll be blunt, barring the Stoke game, in 2016 he's been shit. Lazy, half arsed,"

OK!!!

John Daley
70 Posted 02/03/2016 at 22:59:38
"Maybe you'd rather your footballers be out on the lash or banging wags than sat watching football on a Wednesday night."

Lazy bastards some of these modern footballers. Just can't be arsed making the extra effort. Think if they concentrate on just one aspect of their 'play' then that'll suffice. They just need to apply themselves a little better.

From behind, bottle of Jack in one hand, Sky remote in the other. Job done.

Eric Holland
71 Posted 02/03/2016 at 23:00:59
John, I just love the way you can multitask like that.
Brent Stephens
72 Posted 02/03/2016 at 23:06:08
Peter Roberts (#58): "I'll be blunt, barring the Stoke game, in 2016 he's [Lukaku] been shit."

Peter Roberts (#63): "I never said Lukaku is shit".

Eric Holland
73 Posted 02/03/2016 at 23:14:01
Thanks Brent I might of missed that one!! ha ha.
Peter Roberts
74 Posted 02/03/2016 at 23:41:56
Brent "he's shit" is not "2016 bar Stoke has been shit".

Martin Mason
75 Posted 02/03/2016 at 23:57:16
Dave@46, my point was although I didn't really want to say it is that the people who will buy him, as Everton did, will as experts rate him as a very fine player in every respect. Many football fans don't have scooby what they're actually seeing when they watch a game and aren't experts in any sense of the word. Lukaku lazy and slow? Sounds a typical view of the latter rather than the former?
Eric Holland
76 Posted 03/03/2016 at 00:16:46
Peter, You said he was shit, just own up to it, everyone can see you said it...
Peter Roberts
77 Posted 03/03/2016 at 00:30:11
"I'll be blunt, barring the Stoke game, in 2016 he's been shit."

Did I say "Lukaku is shit"...... nope.

But I will state again.... "he is lazy".... hold me to that.

Eric Holland
78 Posted 03/03/2016 at 01:17:19
Ha ha, Peter, nice one... nearly had me believing you there....
Ian Jones
79 Posted 03/03/2016 at 08:41:40
I love the way Lukaku divides opinion.

Whilst I (now) like Lukaku, I have been critical of him especially last season.

However, for me, he still disappoints because overall I feel he has it in him to be so much more and I find that frustrating and am sure some of us think the same.

I think the Belgian manager is frustrated at times because he also knows what a player he has and could be but there's something missing.

Its great we have him. His goals tally is wonderful but....

I made a comment last year about him signing for Everton and that if he was that great Mourinho might have made more of an effort to keep Lukaku. My thoughts were that Mourinho must have had his doubts.

However, the way this season has gone for Chelsea and Mourinho, perhaps it is Romelu who had his doubts about Mourinho and was pleased to get out.

Brent Stephens
81 Posted 03/03/2016 at 09:30:57
Peter #72 "I'll be blunt, barring the Stoke game, in 2016 he's been shit." "Did I say "Lukaku is shit"...... nope. "

You said he was shit apart from the Stoke game. I'm sure you're not saying that one Stoke game makes up for all the other shittiness you're referring to in all the other 25 or so games! Are you?

Not that I think he's been shit.

Ian Jones
82 Posted 03/03/2016 at 09:44:46
Brent and Peter,

This is getting boring now on who said what and how it is interpreted.

Can I just add that the inference is that Lukaku hasn't been at his best 'in 2016' , but then neither has the team overall.

Brent Stephens
83 Posted 03/03/2016 at 10:27:25
Ian, I agree it's getting boring (though not sure why you prolong it in adding the inference). I'll be quiet.
Amit Vithlani
84 Posted 03/03/2016 at 10:39:40
Comparing strikers in different generations is always a perilous exercise. Lukaku is perfect for this era of the Premier League, where the pace of the game is fast, chances come and go in a flash. Add to that Martinez style of slow passing and he has done remarkably well considering the paucity of balls he can run on to.

He has good upper body strength, his touch has improved, and tries to link up the play well and is absolutely lethal in the box. The goal against Bournemouth makes me chuckle – his determination to reach the ball reminded me of a fat kid running to grab the last cake on the table.

Ian Jones
85 Posted 03/03/2016 at 10:45:59
Brent, perhaps I was just being mischievous :)
Brent Stephens
86 Posted 03/03/2016 at 10:48:42
Go on, then, Ian. You're a bad lad!
Ian Jones
87 Posted 03/03/2016 at 11:24:27
Brent, perhaps I should add that there was no reference to 2015.
Teddy Bertin
88 Posted 03/03/2016 at 14:00:23
Can't believe what I read on here sometimes. We've got one of the most exciting young strikers in the world and he's getting torn apart on here by our own fans. Graham, spot on.

No-one is blinded by the stats. We haven't had a player who could take a goal like Rom did against Stoke (Cleverley cross field ball) since Lineker, maybe Rooney.

He knows he's not the finished article. He works really hard but he is also intelligent and picks his battles. I've said it before – Everton fans prefer someone like Andy Carroll or Big Dunc, who go in to win every single ball, regardless of whether there's any players around them, and end up getting hurt every game. Rom has learnt from players like Drogba to save your stamina for when it counts and to not head the ball all game for the sake of winning the ball. When there's a flick on available or the sight of goal, 8/10 times Rom will win the header.

The shout that he is lazy is utterly shocking. We all know he needs to improve parts of his game but so does he. What's wrong with you guys? I'd be more worried about the form of Baines, Tim Howard and Stones than Rom. Rom's job is to get into positions to stick the ball in the back of the net. He's done it more times this season than any Everton player in Premier League history.

Stop moaning and get behind the team. Rom is an intelligent guy who wants to improve and I for one will back him to get better and better rather than shout the lad down for not being the best striker in the world.

John Hughes
89 Posted 03/03/2016 at 14:40:52
Bob Latchford didn't do a lot of running around but I thought he was quite a good goal scorer.
Steve Brown
90 Posted 03/03/2016 at 15:20:19
Funniest posts I've read for a while. Lukaku has been shit in 2016 apparently, so let's discount the first few months of the season when he has been great. We should also not use stats to assess him, because those stats indicate that he has scored 22 goals in 34 games.

Then the best of all, he is compared unfavourably with Big Dunc who would have scored 25 goals in this side. Dunc would never get that many goals in any side. He was never fit for long enough!

A stream of utter shite frankly.

Alan Bodell
91 Posted 03/03/2016 at 16:10:53
Amit (#78), your last bit made me laugh but that's what you get from standing on your heels in the box waiting for a chance. Sums him up really, not that good in the air and doesn't score many from outside the box... and don't start me on his free kicks.

With a proper alert striker with desire and he'd have more than 30 in his 'stats' already. All you apologists for him – relax; it's all about opinions.

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