Martinez: I understand fans' frustrations

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Roberto Martinez says he can understand the supporters' frustration at another disappointing league campaign but he reiterated that he and his players are concentrating on finishing the season as strongly as possible and progressing in the FA Cup.

The manager spoke to the media in his pre-match press conference ahead of the trip to Crystal Palace tomorrow night where Everton go in search of what would be a first league victory in five attempts following three defeats and Saturday's draw with Watford.

As discontent among supporters grows following a continuing run of disappointing results, the manager had to answer a number of more searching questions than he has been used to in his press conferences but he refused to be drawn on analysing the problem afflicting his team's form other than to admit that the Blues' home form hasn't been good enough this season and that they have squandered too many points from winning positions.

Martinez was pressed over the growing pressure on his shoulders and asked how he feels he personally can respond to a worrying sequence of results that has seen Everton drop to 14th in the Premier League but the Catalan insisted that the focus is entirely on tomorrow's match.

“I wouldn't say that [I'm feeling more pressure than ever],” Martinez told the media. "As a manager you understand it's always the pressure you put on yourself. With the scrutiny of the outside or not, you always follow an intense demanding way of working, that in the last seven years of working in the Premier League, I would say it has always been the same. I will never stop doing that.

“Sometimes there is a better momentum in the outside, more scrutiny, more important moments. That's something you cannot control. As a manager you always concentrate on what you can affect, and that is why it is such a significant period for us because we can affect many things from now until the end of the season."

Fans' passion is the club's strength

“I can understand the frustration and that in our football club we share an incredible amount of passion,” Martinez said when asked his thoughts on the banners held up before the game at Vicarage Road, “I accept that. The only thing that matters is that we finish the season really strong and get high up the table.

“Everything is to fight for in the League campaign and we have a semi-final to look forward to. I've got no problems with the passion that our fans have for our team and our football club because that's the real strength that we have."

Asked about the smartphone footage that was shared on social media last night of him engaged in an unintelligible conversation with a supporter at the U21s game against Chelsea, the manager said: “I want to know what the fans feel and I respect a fan who supports our football club who has a genuine interest in the club. The passion that every fan has we share and we're all together here.

“Of course we're disappointed. We're as disappointed as the fans are and all we need to do is to be really close together, to use each other's strengths to finish the season really, really strong. So we'll never away from a fan's opinion; it's really important to know how the fans feel.”

The manager acknowledged that results, particularly at home, haven't been good enough he was asked where he felt the blame lies for that.

"There is no such thing as blame," Martinez replied. "We put in a lot of work to assemble this squad, to create a squad that breeds excitement and breeds incredible potential but the reality is that at the moment we've been really really good in certain aspects and really, really poor in others.

“We haven't been able to manage games well enough, we haven't conserved leads at times, we've thrown really good positions away and it's been reflected in the scorelines.

“So, clearly we need to get better. The way we see it, we are in a very significant moment of the season. We want to get as many points as we can in the league, we want to carry on progressing and see how far we can go in the FA Cup. We've worked really hard for 10 months to be in this position where we're still involved in two competitions, so the focus needs to be on a real obsession with the game we've got ahead.

“It's not a moment to talk about assessments," Martinez concluded, saying also that he has no target in terms of league position for the remainder of the campaign. "At the end of the season, we'll able to assess and see where we've been throughout the season. We're still in a really important moment of our league campaign. Every point has a really strong significance and, as I say, we've got no time to look back — the only focus is tomorrow's game.”

 

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Phil Walling
1 Posted 12/04/2016 at 19:37:50
Can't believe Roberto's remarks at today's presser have been totally ignored.

Apparently, the fan pressure at Everton is no different to what he experienced at Wigan. Well it wouldn't be, would it when you are at the arse end of the table ?

All the blame is on the team, he is culpable for nothing... and him and Kenwright speak every day – so there !

Now where have I heard that before?

Mark Rimmer
3 Posted 12/04/2016 at 19:55:44
“Everything is to fight for in the League campaign."

So he is surely suggesting we can still win the league!? And here's me thinking that was long gone and a top half finish is the best we can hope for! What a manager!
Mick Davies
4 Posted 12/04/2016 at 19:57:58
"He reiterated that he and his players are concentrating on finishing the season as strongly as possible."

It's a pity he doesn't concentrate on a strong start to the season... or a strong mid-season, I really do fear for the future of OUR club with this loony in charge.
Darren Hind
5 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:02:50
"We're still involved in two competitions."

I guess it depends on what you call 'involved'.
Keith Harrison
6 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:06:15
Er, no, you can't actually, Roberto. Which is why the fans are frustrated in the first place. You just don't seem to understand what to everyone else connected to the Blues – with the possible exception of our chairman – is staring you in the face. We have a good squad, patently unfit, with no winners mentality, where their hitherto skill levels have been coached/drummed right out of them.

All of them have been talked up bigger and better than they probably are, except poor scapegoat Bainesy, and asked to play at a pace varying between lethargic and turgid. We do not have defenders on the posts, despite having everyone in the box at defensive corners, and our centre-halves are taller standing up than when they jump for the ball. You could not slide a £5 note under most of our teams feet when they are 'jumping' for a ball.

You show no inclination to change things in any match situation in a positive way, but I'll refrain from commenting on Mr Niasse until 2019 when he may be ready for a seat on the bench in the away league game at Yeovil.

If you truly understand, and are indeed a man of honour, ask for an audience with Bill and tell him the job is too big for you while there is the remotest semblance of maintaining some pride for the club in the Derby and the Cup. With you at the hem, I, along with a myriad others, fear the very worst.
Dave Ganley
7 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:08:59
You blatantly don't understand our frustrations, Roberto, otherwise you wouldn't keep letting your team put in insipid, passionless, static, error-ridden, jaw-droppingly bad performances week after week after week.

You have no idea how much we are hurting and have been for 2 years now. If you did understand then you wouldn't keep insulting our intelligence with inane nonsense week after week after week when assessing the latest catastrophe on the pitch.

If you did understand us then you would have made damn sure the players put maximum effort in every week instead of letting them coast week after week. And if you did understand us then you wouldn't rebuke one of our own when he had the temerity to finally speak the truth, something that has been sadly lacking from your mouth ever since you were so fortunate to join the club.

Evertonians are born not manufactured and you were most definitely manufactured. You understand nothing!!

Mick Davies
8 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:12:25
Keith @ 6 Nailed. Excellent post; I only wish Kenwright felt the same way.
Christy Ring
9 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:13:06
'Everything to fight for in the league campaign'.

Does he not know we're 4 places above Sunderland, who are 18th.

He also said, 'there is no such thing as blame'. Why did Baines have to apologise then, for telling the truth?

He's an embarrassment, and full of his own importance, and Kenwright needs to pull the finger out.

Jim Hardin
10 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:14:24
"We have worked really hard for ten months to be in this position." 14th!!!

"We are still involved in two competitions." What? FA Cup and the EPL? I thought every team in the EPL at the beginning ot the season was involved in the EPL still. No effort required at all just ask Aston Villa. When were the knockout rounds? What does 14th place get?

Never mind, he did it again. Back out onto the ledge.

Gerard Carey
11 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:14:32
Relax lads, we are all in a very important moment!!!

Again and again and again and aga...........!
Jay Harris
12 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:26:46
Don't worry, lads... it will be a strong last 3% of the season.
Alastair Donaldson
14 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:34:03
Don't look back, Roberto... keep progressing.

It's actually getting to be quite funny now. I almost feel sorry for him.

Hoping against hope for a decent result tomorrow, i.e. a win. (Remember those?)

God only knows what the atmosphere is going to be like on Saturday if it's another reverse.

COYB

Jack Convery
15 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:34:40
I had hoped that, when asked about the Southport confrontation, he had said it was a Southport fan telling him in no uncertain terms he wasn't getting the Southport job when EFC sack him at the end of the season!
Vince Furnier
16 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:35:32
Is this the news we have been waiting to hear? http://www.ruleteros.com/Everton-appoint-new-manager/
Joe Edwards
17 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:39:30
Turgid bile from a dead man walking. Mr Martinez has lost the fans, lost his players and lost the plot. The only "real important moment of our season", any of the fans are concerned about is the moment you are sacked.
Keith Harrison
18 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:39:43
Vince, haven't been in chains of late have you?
Tom Bowers
20 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:44:35
The guy is an embarrassment. His remarks are almost as funny as Yeeza's and his talent level is the same – poor!

He really has no comprehension of what is expected and thinks just staying in the Premier League and winning the occasional game is satisfactory. Sorry, Roberto, you are a nice guy and nice guys finish last.

If they get a point at Palace, it won't be because of anything he has done.

Andrew Presly
21 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:44:57
This is sad. I've been a supporter since 1988 and never seen a manager more open to ridicule than the current guy. That includes Walker & Kendall Mk III. Doesn't mean everybody has to ridicule him.

We're a dignified club. He's the Everton manager. We have a semi-final next weekend too.

Denis Richardson
23 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:48:44
I'm still waiting for Atsu, err no Traore, err no Niasse, yes Niasse to explode into a positive moment.......in erm.....August.......

Hello?

Anybody there?

Bueller?

Patrick Carty
24 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:49:20
Martinez is saying since December that we want to finish the season very strong. How much more of this bullshit do we supporters have to take?

Even if we went on a miracle run and won all our remaining games, I still would not want this demented fool over us.

Martinez out now

Chris Leyland
25 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:51:29
"There is no such thing as blame."

Oh yes there is, Roberto, and it lies firmly with you.

Jay Harris
26 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:52:42
The latest classic is "There is no blame for this season. We have been strong"

I know Wigan is out in the sticks but this guy is surely from another planet.

Chris Leyland
27 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:52:57
Andrew P - ok that's settled then. Let's all stop picking on Roberto.
Keith Harrison
28 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:53:42
Andrew, it is sad. The club, however, is being submitted to the same ridicule from all outsiders because of the conduct and soundbites of our manager.

Just look up Chris Sutton's various outpourings, or the TalkSport phone ins etc. And virtually every person says Everton are punching well below their weight, especially in a season where Leicester will likely finish top of the pile.

Go through the teams side by side, and see how many Foxes would get in our side. Sad it may be, but there is a tipping point for everything, and I fear Roberto is past the point of no return with ours.

Mark Boulle
29 Posted 12/04/2016 at 20:55:32
If Roberto is still in charge next season, given the significant players we will lose over the summer, I fear we won't be "involved" in the Premier League in the 2017-18 season!
Vince Furnier
30 Posted 12/04/2016 at 21:04:43
Keith - no. My wife is on holiday presently :)
Chris Williams
31 Posted 12/04/2016 at 21:06:53
Fucking gobshite!

I swear I will not get angry about this. I promise I'm not dreading the match tomorrow and smug arsehole Pardew's self satisfied face. I won't want to dislike the approach up to Goodison on Saturday, stomach in knots fearing deja vu all over again. Z Cars the highlight of the afternoon..

No such thing as blame my arse!

Prick!

Tony Abrahams
32 Posted 12/04/2016 at 21:15:41
I know they have to do press conferences, but couldn't he just let Graham Jones do them for a bit? Because every time he speaks, he just makes things worse for himself.
Paul Hewitt
33 Posted 12/04/2016 at 21:31:36
Andrew@21, the guy brings it all on himself with his silly comments and the fact he is a totally shit manager.
Edward Wallis
34 Posted 12/04/2016 at 21:35:19
Idiot...dead man walking, gone beyond point of no return.

Just don't understand why Kenwright can't see it and 40,000 fans and the media can. I was there with 13-16,000 crowds when Kendall was under pressure of losing his job in 1983.

It was never ever this bad with all support polarised against the manager. Martinez is no Kendall.

Unless Everton Board change him, nothing will change for our club apart from being in reverse. The longer this idiot is in charge, it will be just as detrimental to our great club as when we were banned from Europe in 1985... This time it's in our hands.

Please please sack him now.....!!!!!

Kunal Desai
35 Posted 12/04/2016 at 21:37:23
"Everything is to fight for in the League campaign". Really?? like what finishing 11th. That would be phenomenal

"There is no such thing as blame". Yes there is and that is you. You are entirely responsible for this mess as you are the manager.

The campaign will end happily though for everyone once you have fucked off from the club.

Ian Burns
37 Posted 12/04/2016 at 21:42:18
Keith (#6) and Dave (#7) – having read those two posts, they said everything I and many Evertonians feel and I couldn't have put it any more passionately so I won't try – you have said it all.

I just wish Martinez would read this and recognised his time is up and realised that his brown shoes are made for walking... away.

Ian Hollingworth
38 Posted 12/04/2016 at 21:42:55
Sadly the clown genuinely thinks he is doing a good job. Bill "What a manager" Kenwright clearly thinks he is doing a good job. Deluded but mainly sad, very sad for Everton FC.

Who or what will save us from this nightmare that is spiralling out of control.

Oliver Molloy
39 Posted 12/04/2016 at 21:45:58
Keith (#28),

How many Everton players would get in the Leicester team, you might ask.

I can think of four Leicester players that would be in most teams' starting lineup in the league.

Andrew Laird
41 Posted 12/04/2016 at 21:54:00
Come on, now, it's time to lay off Roberto, take a back seat and appreciate just how comically gifted he is. He has genuinely won me over. He has followed his "I don't make excuses" sketch with a surreal "There is no such thing as blame".... That is progress. All bow to the king of comedy.
Joe Foster
42 Posted 12/04/2016 at 21:54:50
Maybe the Martinez out flags on Saturday will let him know how the fans feel.
Colin Glassar
43 Posted 12/04/2016 at 21:55:58
I'm glad "we're still involved in TWO competitions". I'd forgotten we were still in the Premier League.
Ian McDowell
44 Posted 12/04/2016 at 21:57:55
“Everything is to fight for in the League campaign"

What a ridiculous statement. What the hell is there to fight for in the league campaign?

Denis Richardson
45 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:01:15
Keith (#28), while I get your point I think you're being a bit unfair to Leicester. I think at least 5 of their players would walk into our starting XI without too much of a problem.

As a unit their defensive back 5 currently puts ours to shame with the mids and strikers also doing their bit. Five clean sheets in a row is it now?

They are top of the pile and rightly so – you cannot win the Premier League by flukey results. Hope they do it as they deserve it more than Spurs imo.

Jay Woods
46 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:01:24
Surely he knows rightly the blame should largely fall on him, but he's exercising some kind of unspoken football manager rule that one can never admit one's own shortcomings. It's just gafferspeak, of the same deranged variety that caused so much consternation and then, latterly, bemusement and finally amusement, across the park when Rogers was at the helm.

It becomes ever more risible as the end of tenure approaches, like a form of death throes as the victim – by that stage a figure of ridicule or even pity – clings desperately to the delusion that hope remains.

Either that or I am trying to rationalise the ramblings of a man totally detached from reality.

Andy Crooks
47 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:02:35
We will win at Palace, the poll will drop to under 80% Martinez out. We will win against Liverpool, the poll will, briefly, drop to under 70%. Then, we will win the semi-final; there will be no poll. Then, we will all be united for the final. Win or lose, we will have a manager who will be hard to sack.

Roberto Martinez will start next season as manager. I will rant and rave but my wife has suggested yoga. (Actually, her words were, "you are going to give yourself a heart attack if you don't start acting like a grown man, you are really getting on my nerves.) So, let us win a few games.

Neil Gribbin
48 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:06:53
Even by his standards, this is waaaaaaay out there.

He really is mad. I truly think that he has a screw loose. He has to. He can't mean this. It's all getting a bit embarrassing for him now.
Andrew Presly
49 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:10:16
Chris #27 I'm not saying let Martinez escape but there's hopefully an Everton way of doing it.

We're all trying even, especially Roberto. Some big games coming up.

Colin Glassar
50 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:14:10
Andy – try, "nam myoho renge kyo." It works for me.
Brent Stephens
51 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:17:49
Andy (#47) – that scenario (ending in Martinez staying) assumes we'll win at Palace (possibly), win at the other place (unlikely), win in the semi-final and final (possibly) – so overall unlikely. But, even if it were to happen, I suspect that most of us feel that success in those few games goes nowhere near to assuring us about Roberto's credentials.
Steve Hogan
52 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:22:37
Jay Woods (#46),

You're pretty much spot on in your comments. His last few press conferences have seen the assembled journos 'circling for the kill'. Like a pack of wolves they can smell blood and the questions aimed at him are more pertinent now than they have ever been during his time at Everton.

Hence the almost blunt 'Where do you think the blame lies'? He's not daft though, he would have been privy to the sound advice provided by his 'trade union', the League Managers Association, who will have told him to 'see it through to the bitter end', and Everton are contractually obliged to compensate you heavily if they decide to sack you.

The odds are he'll stick it out to the end of the season and then we'll see who really wears the trousers now at Everton.

Sam Hoare
53 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:27:32
Does himself no favours does he? Can't believe he's managed to make me dislike his soundbites almost as much as our performance levels this season.
Christy Ring
54 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:30:02
The pundits like Garth Crooks praising him, gets on my wick, they're very similar, both talk pure Shiite. The only reason Danny Murphy is in his corner, is because he's a redshite, and having a laugh.
Colin Glassar
55 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:30:10
The beginning of the end, or end of the beginning (for me) was when Carra pulled him up on MNF about his tactics,and decision making, live on tv. I've never seen a person squirm so much and you could see his mind going "mierda, I've been exposed. Fucking Carra".

That was the day I started doubting Roberto. He'd been caught with his pants down around his ankles.

Steve Davies
57 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:33:44
One thing I don't have is any sympathy for Roberto. He is on £3 million a year for god sake, and he is incompetent.

He may be sacked if we lose tomorrow. If Kenwright and the Board cannot see that this man is out of his depth then I really do despair.

He hasn't a hope in hell of winning the cup and personally if he does I still want him to do one!!!

Damian Wilde
58 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:34:10
You do have to worry don't you, no despair! I feel like I'm in work, the difference being I like all the clients I see in therapy. I do not like Roberto. I'm actually starting to hate him... a lot.

I honestly don't see this as a 'phenomenal moment', as someone else said it's getting funny, this is probably my way of coping with this psychological whirlpool.

I dislike going to the match all due to him, this saddens me. Not arsed about tomorrow's result, I only care about going to the match a week Saturday.

Mark Daley
59 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:39:35
It's not pretty to listen to these delusional babblings. Is Martinez heading for a nervous breakdown or has he had one?
Ian Brandes
60 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:41:32
In the not so recent past, our much missed Harold Matthews declared 'I wish he would keep his trap shut.'

How I echo that!

Sean Patton
61 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:41:43
Speaking of 'understanding', I tell you what I don't understand is why there is so much anger towards him. You only have to look at the clip of the guy telling him to fuck off at the U21 game. Regardless of your feelings towards Martinez that is out of line.

Smith and Moyes both outstayed their welcome by a few years and they never got this vitriol and constant abuse.

Keith Harrison
62 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:43:53
Oliver, Dennis, I'm not being unfair to Leicester, but by your own admission, 4 or 5 would get in our team at most. If we maximised our talents like Leicester have theirs, we would be top of the pile now.

I want Leicester to win it to give all other teams hope, but with our squad, this is truly a season squandered league wise. And any new found money next season will pale into comparison against the really big spenders as they buy back their birthright from the Midlands upstarts.

Dick Fearon
63 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:47:34
Upcoming games, vs Palace, Saints and RS could be disastrous. Desperately needed is a dogs of war attitude from our manager.
Phil Walling
64 Posted 12/04/2016 at 22:58:58
That Kenwright will refuse to take action on Martinez until we arrive in the bottom half-dozen... or lower..... is on par with his Kings Dock failure and equally unforgivable.

Although, thinking back, I said that about the Catalan's appointment!

Anthony Manning
65 Posted 12/04/2016 at 23:00:39
Let's not forget Kenwright is no longer the key man when it comes to making decisions so who cares whether he's chummy with Martinez?

I'm sure Moshiri is no mug, he's not going to let a smaller shareholder dictate what goes on at the club and I'm pretty sure his first major decision is around the corner.

MARTINEZ OUT!!

Darryl Ritchie
67 Posted 12/04/2016 at 23:06:17
Martinez says he understand the fans' frustration.

He doesn't have a clue! Just one more thing in a season of nearly total cluelessness. Made that last word up, but it fits.

Xavier Spencer
68 Posted 12/04/2016 at 23:07:05
Nuts. Just fucking nuts.
Damian Wilde
69 Posted 12/04/2016 at 23:09:17
Keith, I'll tell you how many of Leicester's team would get into our team – 11.
Ian Riley
70 Posted 12/04/2016 at 23:09:53
Let's face it, Martinez is on the ropes with the press. They hate it when someone is not taking any accountability for poor results. The press are hunting in packs for Roberto.

Damian (#58), you are so right. Someone at work told me we were playing palace tomorrow. I used to name our next five fixtures, can't be arsed. How the hell are Bournemouth, West Bromwich Albion above us in the league. He should be sacked on that alone.

Mr Kenwright you are to blame and no one else. You and you alone were lazy in recruiting a new manager. A manager that relegated a club after years of struggling at the bottom of the league. On what basis did he get a club like Everton to manage? At least Moyes went on to manage the most successful team in Britain. Martinez will be lucky to manage in the Championship.

If we finish the season badly, next season under Martinez will be a relegation fight. No form, players leaving, and no confidence. Look at Leicester City, finished last season on a high and continued it!!

John Davies
71 Posted 12/04/2016 at 23:10:05
What the fuck is wrong with Kenwright? By not necking this deluded, arrogant idiot of a manager he makes himself look a complete twat in the process.

Martinez out? NO, NO, get the pair of the fucking loonies out of the club NOW, before we all go fucking mad. Listen to me I'm already half way there.

Keith Harrison
72 Posted 12/04/2016 at 23:14:36
I've told you a million times, stop exaggerating, Damian.
Darryl Ritchie
73 Posted 12/04/2016 at 23:18:51
Phil, You can say "I told you so", because when you're right; you're right. Although I wish you'd have got it wrong, because if you were right, (which you were) we would be in deep shit (which we are).
Ray Robinson
74 Posted 12/04/2016 at 23:31:20
For Roberto everything is about "moments". He doesn't seem to realise that a the significant period for a football team is called a season – and this has been a phenomenally bad one.
Andy Crooks
75 Posted 12/04/2016 at 23:36:55
I have a feeling that Martinez will produce a mighty rabbit from the hat over the next few weeks. And you know what, I hope he does and I hope he doesn't. So, I will be happy no matter what.

However, say, he nearly gets the rabbit out of the hat. Three league wins, and, a brutally unlucky semi final.

Dean Adams
76 Posted 12/04/2016 at 23:37:12
"I understand the fans".

Oh no you don't!

Laurie Hartley
78 Posted 12/04/2016 at 23:51:48
Andy (#47) – if you want a quick fix I suggest you press the magic button.

Link

I had recourse to this method about this time last year and it worked for me.

I do hope you are right in your predictions. Eugene's pitched forks and flaming torches post has been niggling at me for a couple of days.

Up the Blues!!!

Andrew Presly
79 Posted 13/04/2016 at 00:25:39
Wembley trip for some next week though lads. I'll try to go and will cost me north of £300 at best if I can make it. Martinez that!

Just the 3 semi finals (2 FA & 1 League Cup) in the Moyes' 11 year tenure. Let's get him back. Another few near misses by 2028 under Davie and we can all die happy?

Victor Jones
80 Posted 12/04/2016 at 00:39:29
We could win our next couple of league games, you never know. Miracles do happen. We could then end up winning our cup semi final. And then win the cup. We could. Then Martinez is allowed another season another season to baffle us all with whatever it is that he is trying to do. Because I'm fucking baffled.

Or we could lose our next few league games. We could get stuffed in the cup semi-final and we could be down to our last couple of league games and Martinez is still waffling about finishing strong. I give up.

But the saddest , frustrating thing of all no matter what happens for the rest of the season, Martinez will still be at Everton at the start of next season. You see we don't sack managers. Smith and Walker were poor but they never had the players that Martinez has to work with. All hypothetical, I know. Shame on Martinez for wasting this opportunity of getting the best out of this so called "best ever squad".

Shame on Kenwright also for allowing this nonsense to fester for about two years. Check some of the first seasons results and performances as well. Not really as good as what some supporters think. A few very good wins but a lot of scrappy draws and one goal wins. And home defeats to Sunderland and Palace. The signs were there, right from the start. I want more from Everton FC.

Just a last comment: When Moyes, Smith, Walker, Harvey, Kendall, Lee, Bingham and even the great Harry Catterick were all going through lean times... when some of the football was not great I still cared. I was there, supporting. Believing. Not giving up.

I am finding it very hard to care what happens to Martinez's Everton. I want us to be safe I want us to win the cup but I also want this season to end. We are going nowhere under Martinez. And the sooner our new 49.9% man sees that the better.

Martinez out.

Tony Draper
81 Posted 13/04/2016 at 00:48:58
As much as I want Roberto replaced (and I seriously do) I have bled internally over many Evertonians who have showed us promise, and Roberto really did show us those glimpses of that kind of promise.

I hate "breaking up", it's painfully, messy and frankly........ just fuckin scary.

I'd LOVE Roberto to just sort out our defensive frailties, but I believe that he just won't. He never, ever will.

I have an ex who was just fuckin adorable, utter sex kitten, but day by day she was/is utterly bewildering. In our early days together, I was in utter bliss. Eventually I realised that the cost of our continued relationship would be my dignity, all the very things that add up to me being me.

Clearly, I would not accept that. It was bloody painful.

Roberto, if you walk, then I'll respect that, but I'm really sorry Roberto, it's over.

Brian Porter
82 Posted 13/04/2016 at 01:04:45
He understands sod all and that's the crux of the problem. He actually believes there isn't a problem. For him, it's been a phenomenal season, he thinks everything is going well apart from the last three games. If he truly believes the rubbish he keeps spouting at us it can only mean one of two things:

1. He is mentally ill, suffering from the direct opposite of depression, ie, false euphoria, where despite all evidence to the contrary, his mind is convinced everything is in a state of perfection. In this state, if his leg was to drop off, he'd find something positive to say about it, probably emphasising only having to buy one brown shoe instead of a pair.

Or 2. The simplest explanation, the man is quite simply an inveterate and compulsive liar.

I tend to side with #2. He thinks he can hoodwink us all with his Martinez gobbledegook double talk and hasn't realised we've all seen through his lies and smoke and mirrors philosophy (well, most of us have). I just want to see the back of this man who has poisoned our club with his failed tactics, ineptitude and downright lies. The man is clueless.

Someone posted earlier asking why Moyes didn't suffer this degree of vitriol, simple answer, he didn't try to make us believe we were world beaters while overseeing a catastrophic plunge into the lower reaches of the Premier League.

Paul Kelly
83 Posted 13/04/2016 at 05:03:33
"We've worked really hard for 10 months to be in this position where we're still involved in two competitions",

You clueless fuckwit, I despair I really do, this fella is so effing deluded its beyond belief. Surely the only reason he's still here is because they can pay him off less the worse we finish, maybe? I don't know, but I can't think of any other logical reason.

Christopher Dover
84 Posted 13/04/2016 at 06:46:16
I know this is negative but there is a feeling if we win the cup, Martinez would be manager next season. How about a poll?

Would you want to win the cup if it means Martinez is manager next season? Yes or No?

Gavin Fennessy
85 Posted 13/04/2016 at 09:14:57
His comments are beyond delusional. You would get as much coherence sending in some chatbot to address the media queries. If we were already out of the cup would we already be rid of this charlatan?

It does appear that the goodwill is well and truly exhausted among the fanbase – not just here on TW. Best we can hope for is that behind the scenes that Farhad Moshiri has already decided his fate and is waiting for the summer to install a replacement. The only justification I can find for leaving Martinez in place to the summer is that a replacement has been identified that is unavailable until the end of the season (Pellegrini??).

Trevor Peers
86 Posted 13/04/2016 at 09:38:27
Roberto has become the modern day Professor Stanley Unwin, well know to the older generation as a comedian who spoke perfect jibberish.

I just don't listen to him anymore, I prefer to judge him on what I see out on the pitch, it's less stressful and confusing. Although the conclusion is the same: Martinez out!

Tony Hogan
87 Posted 13/04/2016 at 09:44:48
Trevor @ 86, brilliant comment, made me smile, that guy was funny,

Roberto however is just an arrogant idiot

Steve Hogan
88 Posted 13/04/2016 at 09:50:16
Tony (81) You've already lightened my mood this morning, care to write a lengthy article on the 'sex kitten' and does she have a middle aged sister by any chance?
Dave Abrahams
89 Posted 13/04/2016 at 10:15:19
I think Robbie is a bluff merchant, who quite simply, has been found out. He is just going through the motions now, he knows his time is up, he will still walk away with a very good pay off and a smile on his face. He has kidded the bollocks off soft lad Kenwright, and a good few thousand of us fans.
Tony J Williams
90 Posted 13/04/2016 at 12:55:43
"Fucking gobshite!
I swear I will not get angry about this. I promise I'm not dreading the match tomorrow and smug arsehole Pardew's self satisfied face. I won't want to dislike the approach up to Goodison on Saturday, stomach in knots fearing deja vu all over again. Z Cars the highlight of the afternoon..

No such thing as blame my arse!

Prick!"

I have no need to add to this.

This season is beginning to have the feel of the Moyes season when we finished 18th, enough points with 7 games to go and lose them all.

It's quite odd now, as when there were the arguments about Moyes there was a clear split in opinion, now it seems that 95%+ want Bobby gone.

I have never called for a manager's head, but I did after the Watford game... Fuck it! I was screaming for it at the final whistle against West Ham.

Chris Williams
91 Posted 13/04/2016 at 14:02:20
Tony

I think strong drink may have been involved!

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