Everton found themselves under pressure from Crystal Palace from early on in the clash at Selhurst Park but despite struggling to consistently move the ball well, they managed to fashion some good openings in the first half while surviving a couple of close calls at the other end.
Their hopes of upping their game to try and win the match in the second half were critically undermined by a second yellow for James McCarthy who, after catching Yohan Cabaye with a late tackle in the first period was booked again for blocking off Yannick Bolasie early in the second.
It was a decision that Martinez questioned after the whistle but he was pleased with how his men fared overall.
Asked if he thought it was a decent point earned in the circumstances, the Catalan replied that he felt it was "more than decent."
"It's always tough to come here to this place and cope with direct play and defend the box well," the manager said. "To do that with 10 men is an incredible, positive performance.
"The resilience and the hard work that we had, the understanding that you have to have, to be able to be so disciplined and so solid...
"When you look at the whole game, we had as many chances as them. Joel Robles had to be at his best but Hennessey probably had equally as good actions.
"I think in that respect it was a really level game and when you see that we had to play with 10 men, it's an incredible, incredible feeling of satisfaction at that performance.
"I thought it was a yellow card at first glance. But it was a harsh yellow. McCarthy had nowhere to go and Bolasie looked for it."
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1 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:33:44
2 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:35:18
3 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:35:38
Nothing is 'incredible' when you only pick up a point at the mighty Palace.
Get him out now.
5 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:36:17
6 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:42:25
7 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:42:27
8 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:42:34
9 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:42:37
Give the players their due tonight, in the second half they dug in and fought for it when they could have lost it but there is no getting away from it; we are a poor poor team and I'm expecting the week from hell starting Saturday to not disappoint my low expectations.
No way is this team beating Man Utd at Wembley or winning at Anfield.
10 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:43:27
11 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:45:36
He only has himself to blame for not replacing McCarthy who is growing more into the Wigan player he once was! The lads saved his ass!
12 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:49:14
Let's see how he manages our incredible squad with what looks like 3 very tough games in the next 10 days. Southampton can be hit or miss, Liverpool will steamroll us at Anfield and I can't see Man Utd loosing too much sleep over us as Wembley looms...
13 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:51:34
14 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:55:37
MARTINEZ OUT NOW !
15 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:56:00
16 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:56:43
Incredible that it has taken so long, Roberto.
17 Posted 13/04/2016 at 22:58:49
Still not top of the also rans though.
Bill can surely give this guy a job designing the wording for his musical shows Phenomenal, Incredible, Tremendous etc etc...
18 Posted 13/04/2016 at 23:01:54
"What a manager"
20 Posted 13/04/2016 at 23:03:47
0-0 at Palace is dire.
0-0 at Palace with 10 men is incredible!
Clutching at straws, Roberto.
21 Posted 13/04/2016 at 23:05:20
And if we can win that, we have an equally winnable game against Palace or Watford.
What a chance to secure some silverware! Might not get as good a chance as this for years...
Then... interesting times with the manager.
22 Posted 13/04/2016 at 23:07:39
23 Posted 13/04/2016 at 23:09:11
24 Posted 13/04/2016 at 23:14:47
We drew (lucky to draw) against a crap Palace and it was 'incredible'. I don't know what to say, I really don't.
I give up.
25 Posted 13/04/2016 at 23:17:22
We learnt that Lennon is better on the right. Barkley likes to labour around bar the odd dribble and Lukaku needs to sort his attitude out and understand he deserves to for the people who help pay his wages (the fans).
We already knew all this and more before kick off but nothing seems to change.
To be fair, we were quite solid and hung in there with a backs to the wall effort. At least we didn't capitulate after 52 mins, like I expected.
26 Posted 13/04/2016 at 23:20:38
A strong manager is needed to whip them into shape. Far too many individuals and nowhere near a team.
27 Posted 13/04/2016 at 23:20:45
Well, he did start with Kone... ;)
28 Posted 13/04/2016 at 23:21:57
He can't defend; he just stands there looking at the man. He's 6ft-2in and can't even head a ball. He's apparently having a fantastic season but I can't remember his last goal or assist. Both him and McCarthy have offered nothing for weeks and weeks and, now Lukaku has his head on a return to Chelsea, it's like playing with 8 men.
Then add to that we have a clueless manager who constantly plays are best performer in Lennon out of position or takes him off! That's before even mentioning Niasse or Kone. No wonder were awful to watch jeewiz!!
29 Posted 13/04/2016 at 23:27:45
I sat and watched the game with my two lads (ages 7-10) who are both blue to the core, easily please season ticket holders. There was nothing in the room, no excitement, no optimism... nothing, just an acceptance that we were playing so we should watch.
Roberto has to go; it's quite simple, he's not good enough to manage in the Premier League.
Check everything stat there is to check, his record from the beginning of his management career to the present day, it all points to a man who is simply not up to the job.
His win percentage is abysmal, his defence is shocking, his after match interview is embarrassing, how long do we have to endure it all???
He has had 3 years to mould a team, or even to show signs of beginning to mould a team, yet he has continued to take us backwards.
Surely the board can see it? Even if they were only interested in money, they can't be pleased.
Any half decent manager would have us top 7, there's around 㾶m difference in prize money there alone. Then there's the wage bill, Martinez has handed out deals to the likes of Gibson and Hibbert without ever wanting them to ever play.
Moving onto his most recent purchase of Niasse, he's made him look an absolute clown without ever playing him. 㾹.5m to sit on a bench and not play, coupled with his wages, that has to be something the board have to notice. Even using excuses about how he expected the lad to become fitter quicker, this in itself is madness; he's got history already with buying players from Russia in January, and claiming there struggling with fitness, in McGeady.
Martinez has said Niasse has a wrist problem, maybe he should ask him to wear a support like Vardy has all season whilst banging goals for fun.
I mean come on, I'm 14 stone-odd, I'm sure even I could get match fit when all I have to do is actually get fit, not worry about bills etc. We have fitness coaches, ffs.
Funes Mori came in from Argentina and hit the ground running, surely Niasse can do 45 minutes here and there after having from January until mid-April to get up to speed.
Everyone has had enough now, Roberto won't walk away, he's fuckin useless but he's not that stupid. The board have to take action, whether it be now or after the semi-final / final, as if they don't then Martinez could relegate us next season.
30 Posted 13/04/2016 at 23:32:54
32 Posted 13/04/2016 at 23:45:14
34 Posted 13/04/2016 at 00:00:31
35 Posted 13/04/2016 at 00:08:45
Barry and McCarthy will NEVER cut it, as I posted on here 3 years ago!.
36 Posted 14/04/2016 at 00:16:15
I haven't seen anything to suggest we can beat anyone, let alone Man Utd as bad as they are.
37 Posted 14/04/2016 at 00:33:06
39 Posted 14/04/2016 at 01:01:46
You want action, take it and don't go to the next home game. Those of you, that do go that is.
I won't be going again this season and if this buffoon is in charge next season, I won't be going then either.
If you really want him out do it, take positive action. And then what you write maybe of some interest.
40 Posted 14/04/2016 at 01:22:24
Glad someone on ToffeeWeb has shown real desire to take positive action at this key moment.
41 Posted 14/04/2016 at 01:23:00
He will be the Belgian Inzagghi without the intelligence.
42 Posted 14/04/2016 at 01:23:10
43 Posted 14/04/2016 at 01:47:29
Oh, and well done too for having the backbone required to take the kind of direct action you mention. Y'know, just doing nothing at all really just like seeing what you have fucking written and on match days as well.
Paper hat and a medal!
44 Posted 14/04/2016 at 02:06:46
So what's stopping you from taking it?
Armchair supporter are you? That would be one reason. I wish I could say the same. Because this season as just been a complete waste of money down the drain.
Make all the snide remarks you want, that tells people more about you that me.
45 Posted 14/04/2016 at 02:13:46
46 Posted 14/04/2016 at 02:19:58
But superlatives and even double superlatives. You're not doing yourself any favours, Roberto.
47 Posted 14/04/2016 at 02:25:56
2 banks of 4, with 10 men; eg no Kone, is better than the 4-2-3-1 whatever it was he played - with Kone.
It wasn't as narrow for a start. All he has to do is see that, then find one from, Mirallas, Del, or Barkley to do a lot of work between the midfield 4 and Lukaku,
This weekends team and bench should be interesting to see...but probably won't be.
48 Posted 14/04/2016 at 02:26:24
So what action are you taking, Dennis?
49 Posted 14/04/2016 at 02:26:28
50 Posted 14/04/2016 at 03:02:50
'Nothing is 'incredible' when you only pick up a point at the mighty Palace' (3)
Only! Down to ten men but we 'only' picked up a point. We 'only' reconfigured ourselves and played much more effectively down to ten and we ought to be ashamed of ourselves for that and to 'only' pick up a point away at Palace.
An excellent result in the circumstances. Puncheon was superb tonight. Might be worth a punt. I was very impressed by Robles and by the overall 'commitment' shown after we went down to ten (and Martinez's rejigging sadly upset by Lennon's injury who I thought was outstanding in that 10-minute or so window).
51 Posted 14/04/2016 at 03:11:56
Does he believe half the lip service he's providing in these post match interviews? No, and if anyone believes he does ,I've got some water front real estate I want to sell you.
52 Posted 14/04/2016 at 03:13:45
In some ways the quality of the execution of chances was better than a lot of our first half display.
53 Posted 14/04/2016 at 04:23:15
By the way some funny posts, it's got to that stage where you have to laugh after all the crying we have done.
Billy Boy, you insult every Everton fan when you say you're one of us. Get shut of your manager and make thousands of real Everton fans happy.
54 Posted 14/04/2016 at 06:09:45
Our incredible manager as usual displayed his usual incredible in-game management by subbing our best player, Aaron Lennon after starting him out of position and then incredibly trying to kid us he was injured. The incredible look on Lennon's face when his number went up told the true story and his anger at being pulled was clear to see if you watched his reaction while talking to Tim Howard on the bench after coming off.
So, another incredible performance followed by another incredible post match speech by our incredibly incredible manager. Only one thing I can say ... phenomenally incredible!
55 Posted 14/04/2016 at 06:14:09
56 Posted 14/04/2016 at 06:20:23
'What! - A Manager?'
58 Posted 14/04/2016 at 06:56:04
He incredibly managed the phenomenal feat of transforming Everton into his beloved Wigan. May we now rest in peace.
59 Posted 14/04/2016 at 07:21:22
He has been baffling Everton fans for the last two years and it appears the players as well.'
Talk about clutching at straws.
60 Posted 14/04/2016 at 07:23:16
He's got to go NOW â€“ give the job to Dunc and Unsworth for the rest of the season and let's see some fight and passion and maybe we could get something out of this season.
Then it's time to appoint a genuine winner â€“ Simeone, De Boer, Koeman please. All 3 of these would attract some top names but more importantly bring through youngsters into the first team.
We can't waste the talent coming through such as Dowell, Williams, Evans and Davies. Needs to be a protest at Goodison this weekend to help force the issue before it's too late....
61 Posted 14/04/2016 at 07:30:25
62 Posted 14/04/2016 at 07:43:55
As said by Liberace, he must cry all the way to the bank.
63 Posted 14/04/2016 at 07:49:02
64 Posted 14/04/2016 at 08:08:19
Not good enough. Next.
65 Posted 14/04/2016 at 08:19:07
Not a arm chair fan mate, no. Dad of two season ticket holders, season ticket holder myself too btw. 3 season tickets in my household, all paid for by me. I'd agree, a total waste of money. I'm taking no action other that not singing the managers name etc.
Just don't like it when someone like yourself decides it's time to come on ToffeeWeb and tear strips out of people (comment 39).
Your idea of boycotting the game holds absolutely no sway at all when it's just one fan, in what I can only describe as what appears to be a drunken rant.
Instead of calling fans spineless fans who talk shite and don't go the game, maybe you could address people with the same respect you want addressing with.
Whilst you spend your time shooting everyone down for there opinions, you can't possibly expect to have anyone take your rant seriously.
You then claim people only write on ToffeeWeb to see "what they have fuckin write". This is clearly what you have done, proven by the fact you have checked on your comment an hour after posting to see what type of response you got.
I understand your frustration Jack, I even understand your stance on not going the game whilst that clown is in charge of the club, but I don't think your one empty seat will do anything to force him out.
66 Posted 14/04/2016 at 08:19:26
Like Jack, I will not be going to Goodison again as long as Martinez is in charge.
67 Posted 14/04/2016 at 08:24:14
68 Posted 14/04/2016 at 08:38:26
69 Posted 14/04/2016 at 08:44:04
Harsh from the BBC sports guy, but hardly unfair.
70 Posted 14/04/2016 at 09:20:08
Jags has been a great servant, and in my opinion has a few good years left in the tank, but he's not the same commanding figure as the above mentioned in your comment.
We lack genuine leaders all over the park, aswel as in the dressing room.
If we can get a strong manager, I believe he could push for certain players to become stronger figures throughout the team as well as adding some of his own.
McCarthy should look across the park at Henderson. I literally can't stand the lad, he's one little gob shite, that said it's what the RedShite need, so he's trying to step up to the mantle. Mccarthy isn't a kid no more, he needs to become more vocal on the pitch, he needs to create an aura about himself were as he demands respect.
I believe Stones has the ability to become a leader, he's brave in possession and he's vocal, even at his young age. Hopefully he will be around to push on this further.
Barkley isn't vocal at all, but if he was fitter and more demanding of the players around him to give him the ball, he could easily become a leader. Not a captain, but an on the pitch leader who leads by example, similar to a Frank Lampard style.
Funes Mori is a typical south America defender, he could become a true leader within the side, again, not the captain, but the type of guy who barks out orders, and hounds referees, a bit like Ricardo Carvaleo did at Chelsea.
Successful sides need more than a captain, they need leadership all over the park and on the side lines.
The best example of this is Man Utd 90s side.
Schmeichel was a loud mouth lunatic. Gary Neville was horrible too, always calling for decisions and getting away with screaming in refs faces. Rio was a leader, when he spoke to his team mates or the ref, they listened. Vidic lead by example, brave and robust, exactly what Mori could become. Scholes, Giggs, Beckham all lead by example, gave there all every match, without being loud or aggressive, but it was clear they would give anything for the shirt. Keane was the main man on the pitch though, a true example of a captain, an on the field warrior who took no prisoners, no shit and was respected by all.
Then there was Fergie, with him behind the team, they could get away with almost anything, they knew he had there backs, they knew he wouldn't stand for anything less than 100%, nothing like Roberto.
Everything needs to change, starting with the mindset of the owners of the club.
Kenwright embarrassed the club when he was on TV with Moshiri lately when he was almost crying over a semi-final.
We have small club mentality from top to bottom, if we want to kick on the mindset has to change. Morshiri needs to show the fans that Martinez management is simple below par, he needs a big name manager who will whip the lads I to shape and show them what leadership is about.
72 Posted 14/04/2016 at 09:28:11
73 Posted 14/04/2016 at 09:28:21
Roberto Martinez: I am ,we have just put in a chemistry laden phenomenal display against a top top side and we have a well deserved point, and all with ten men.
REP: Yes indeed Roberto, and a clean sheet as well.
RM: Please say that again, it sounds soooo good.
REP.. No. So two games unbeaten, do you think Everton have turned a corner now?
RM: Yes absolutely. We displayed fantastic mentality, and when we were in a bad moment after the sending off, we quickly got into a good moment mentally and showed incredible desire, I am incredibly proud of my team this evening.
BK heard in background: "Worra manager, eh boys, worra manager!"
RM: Big cheesy grin to camera.
REP: So Saints at Goodison on Saturday Roberto, how do you think the fans will react?
RM: Loses big cheesy grin. Well they should be incredibly pleased at the last two results, both phenomenal displays by a young team with amazing potential. We are in a big big moment of the season now and need to turn Goodison into a fortress again, and I think our incredible fans can make that happen.
REP: Stifles laughter. Do you think there will be any banners as displayed against Watford?
RM: I hope not. The fans have seen the amazing chemistry we have now and the incredible spirit we have shown through the last two incredibly difficult away games. If however some ungrateful fans do wave banners, then I will not see them.
REP: Good luck with that then Roberto.
RM: Thank you
75 Posted 14/04/2016 at 09:31:26
And before anyone asks, yes I do want Martinez out and have done since Xmas 2014.
76 Posted 14/04/2016 at 09:32:00
Absolutely right. A losing mentality, in fact. That won't change until Kenwright and Martinez both bugger off.
77 Posted 14/04/2016 at 09:32:18
"Ready" for the Man Utd game?
On last night's showing? What the hell is he going on about.
Please get rid of this idiot.
78 Posted 14/04/2016 at 09:40:31
Martinez is Mr Incredible. Bob by day, living a mundane life, sitting in his home office thinking back to better days gone by when he gets a secret mission by a mysterious silver-haired agent (Kenwright). The mission is to save something which needs saving (Everton) and make people realise that the world is a better place when super heroes are out there, prospering and putting smiles on people's faces (Everton).
Graeme Jones is Elastigirl (Mrs Incredible). Faithful to Mr Incredible but doesn't really add anything. Has the ability to change shape but always reverts back to her normal self. Can be useful though by changing into a parachute during freefall.
Gerard Deulofeu is Dash. Very fast but young and makes mistakes. Mr Incredible doesn't like him competing in many competitions because he's too fast and others will realise his talent and want a part of him.
Ross Barkley is Violet. Young and talented but has the ability to disappear when under threat.
Lukaku is Frozone. Definitely got amazing ability, can be really cool at times but doesn't show his talent enough and won't stick around for too long.
Bill Kenwright is Edna. Makes sure the team has a good kit deal which doesn't make them look ridiculous. Doesn't always get this right.
Claudio Ranieri is Syndro. He's come out of hiding and made a machine that's crushing everything. Mr Incredible's job is to try and stop him.
79 Posted 14/04/2016 at 09:42:35
It all rests on the cup.
80 Posted 14/04/2016 at 09:53:52
I never did go, but carried on watching Everton away from home. Luckily/unluckily for me it didn't last long and we got a new manager. The first season was enjoyable under Martinez, even if I felt the crowd was losing its atmosphere.
I put it down to the different style of play, and thought that Highbury was called a library because maybe when people are getting entertained they don't have to jump about as much? (The entertainment? Well it didn't last long.)
If you feel the way you do Jack, I understand you staying away. I can't blame the manager no longer, though (well not until he opens his mouth), but whoever is in charge has got to change something right now. It's painful.
My son who is two and a half, is even singing Everton are rubbish. (Blame the in laws, I know) but he went past Goodison and said to his mum, I've been there with me dad. They went past Anfield and he said that's a castle. (Not nice)
I've got a fucking battle on me hands, I'll tell yer, so someone better do the right thing for all of us right now! Even if his twin sister keeps telling everyone that Kopites are Gobshites! (Not nice but only because she's only two!)
Something just come to me, maybe we are the Gobshites for putting up with so much shite. I've seen shite before, and fought my blue corner, but when Martinez opens his mouth, I find him very hard to defend. It's very very sad, wishing to be deaf.
I've told my son to keep saying The Manager is rubbish, when he sings his little song.
81 Posted 14/04/2016 at 10:02:28
Almost correct. Replace 'dream' with ' have nightmares about' (i.e. the Championship) and he was spot on. We should be taking the opportunity of having a new majority shareholder on board to start developing a relationship with him (and others) where fans have a stake, and a voice, in the club and how it runs.
I am probably as bad as everyone else in whingeing about the manager, and then hoping it will all turn out okay and two wins against the RS and Scum Utd will make everything fine again. It won't. Martinez is a nightmare manager and the club is not well run, especially for the benefit of the most important people - us, the fans. So, I have taken the plunge and bought a share (the missus wasn't too happy, but understands it keeps me occupied). At least now I can go to shareholder meetings, vote (I think), ask difficult questions and meet with like-minded Blues.
Can we create a Blue Barcelona and have a fan-owned club that wins trophies and is a force for good in the community? Why not?
I have good friends who are Leicester fans, They dared to dream and look what happened... They also hired a coach who can organise a team to defend leads. Mr Martinez, are you listening....?
82 Posted 14/04/2016 at 10:34:46
That was how I felt at least, I've never been so unenthusiastic about traveling to a game. I felt the players did just enough for a draw but there was no danger of them going the extra mile and winning the game. I'll be surprised if we win again this season.
83 Posted 14/04/2016 at 10:36:03
Not Kone's fault that he gets picked but last nights selection made no sense whatsoever especially who he picked for the bench.
Lukaku is a moaning passenger if doesn't score, Barkley clueless without the ball, and not much better with it, is he not allowed to challenge for the ball jogs few yards then backs off as a footballer he's a dunce.
I think big Joe has done the right thing by arranging loans for so many good young players because this manager is ruining careers and are better off away from it all till he's gone.
84 Posted 14/04/2016 at 11:30:48
If a deal hasn't been done yet, but is going to happen in summer, drop him for playing crap, say he's slightly injured to maintain value, play Niasse.
If no deal is done or due to be done, drop him for playing crap and play Niasse.
If Niasse is crap.....we're screwed.
85 Posted 14/04/2016 at 11:44:50
If you went to the Santiago Bernabeu and won the game 4-0, you might at that point be justified in describing the performance and result as incredible... incredible!
But 0-0 away to Crystal Palace? Sorry Roberto, not even one incredible is acceptable. It was an average, average result from your average, average team.
Or is 'average' too much of a compliment?
86 Posted 14/04/2016 at 12:16:22
.. hanging in there, wishfully clinging to the now forlorn dream that some pretty football and the odd burst of goals, even when we so often then threw it away, really might somehow, magically, one day give us the great team and consistent results we all crave.. but I, like so many others of us as I know, just can't do it any more!.. and it's just 'incredible' (and I am incredulous!) that even now, with pretty much ALL the fans clearly on his back, RM still refuses to drop the BS post-match colourisation of such gloomy, unenlightening fare!!
End of the day, it might be okay if we felt that the PLAYERS believed his words (as HE clearly thinks!) and so might, possibly at least, be inspired to live up to them.. but it's pure bullshit atop bullshit and THEY, just as WE, KNOW IT!!! Thing is, I don't hate the guy... I think he really has done his best, insofar as what he will ever be able to achieve with us (ANYONE!!?), ie, the team's occasional 'flatter to deceive' seeming swagger and result(s), clearly unsustainable in this, his, set-up.
Facts are, nice-guy Roberto does not and will not, learn. Not about how to motivate or use and organise the team, or its individuals, to it's fullest, nor about how to keep the them and we fans fully on his side. Maybe he thought that because all football fans love to call the referee a 'wanker' then all he had to do was constantly bemoan their dodgy calls against us and we'd all be rallying behind him and singing together from the same blue hymn-sheet!! Further, maybe he thought he could create the 'siege-mentality' so many managers have used before.. except just running to the press every time and talking like we'd otherwise 'got that one in the bag' and 'didn't we do well, actually?' just didn't and doesn't, do it. You gotta stir the troops up from within, too, shout and cajole them into total fight-readiness, willing to 'die' for the cause and all that!! (you know what I mean!)..
Sadly, as always under RM, all these endless back-to-reality games continue only to get re-packaged by the man himself and sold back to us and the media alike almost as if all this is really just some trippy extension of that wondrous picture of himself and that shiny FA Cup trophy he keeps above his bed!! ('Soon.. soon..' he must pray to it, nightly, before sleep!). Well, maybe you'll even get that wish, Roberto.. maybe, and we all hope so, of course, because WE ARE EVERTON and it's only part of what we feel we should be competing for, year in year.
And herein lies the crux of the matter.. sadly, for us, club and the team, AND for the man himself, our Roberto is way, way, too far out of his league, character and abilities wise, for a club that really does still aspire to be back 'up there'. And that's it, really. (Sorry, did I go on?). End of chat, then.
87 Posted 14/04/2016 at 12:32:57
We are reaching the depths of the mid 90s now.....only that team had more home wins.
Gutted not to read he's been sacked this morning.
88 Posted 14/04/2016 at 12:38:05
Only a matter of time now surely, I can't wait.
89 Posted 14/04/2016 at 12:40:41
I can name 20 in my time as a fan who are better than anything we've got now. That's without seeing Latch, Labone, Ball, Kendall, Harvey etc etc etc.
90 Posted 14/04/2016 at 12:47:58
91 Posted 14/04/2016 at 12:51:49
I was at the game last night and when the crowd started singing 'We're on the march...' you could just sense and hear no one wanted to say 'Bobby's army'.
I also watched so many players on that pitch looking to him and pointing in directions as if they didn't know where they were meant to be.
Seeing Kev being given instructions in the 72nd minute to then be brought on 15 mins later?
We are a shadow of the team we once were and that is down to Martinez and Jones.
On a positive note I thought the back 4 did well and showed fight, Robles pulled off some great saves.
Now, let's see what happens with this board meeting today!
92 Posted 14/04/2016 at 13:03:50
I have had a season ticket for years and I refuse to let myself be driven away by this man (more fool me, you may think). I will be here long after he has gone. I like where I sit and I like the people around me. We have all been there for years.
I do like the idea of everybody leaving at a prearranged time in the game though. That will make a more powerful statement I think. Maybe Jack Cross could help in the taking of positive action?
93 Posted 14/04/2016 at 13:14:23
94 Posted 14/04/2016 at 13:19:33
95 Posted 14/04/2016 at 13:26:19
What? A manager?
96 Posted 14/04/2016 at 13:30:16
Hmmm. not sure what that would do for the atmosphere in the ground. Or team morale.
Aren't we above that sort of thing at Goodison? A bit of cushion throwing is still my choice... now, where did I put my cushion?
97 Posted 14/04/2016 at 13:32:27
They have become toothless and still play very sloppily in the middle of the park. Dropping 4 points to teams like Watford and Palace is not acceptable for a team like Everton. They can't even use Goodison as an excuse.
Thank God for Villa, Barcodes, Sunderland and the likes for being at the bottom a that's likely where Everton would be now on this form.
98 Posted 14/04/2016 at 13:32:58
99 Posted 14/04/2016 at 13:39:44
Come 24th April the season may well be truly over and Martinez can contact the local estate agent to put his house on the market.
Only positive things to come out of last night was that we didn't lose and somehow kept a clean sheet whilst avoiding injuries. 0-0 seemed to suit both managers, which says it all at this stage of the season.
100 Posted 14/04/2016 at 13:55:25
I am 77 years old and well remember the cushions but they are not there any more. I don't think you can lower the team morale much more than we can all see now with constant bickering between themselves.
Unfortunately it seems the board can't or do not want to see it and maybe they do not read it either. Perhaps they might be able to hear it, get the message and think about the possible long term financial implications like relegation.
I presume your cushion comment was tongue in cheek but the danger is that some idiot may do something or throw something a lot more dangerous than cushions...
101 Posted 14/04/2016 at 14:17:44
It's sad to see our club with what appears to be such a low morale, they don't appear to have any camaraderie at all, it's probably as bad as I can remember and my first match was in '59. The sooner Martinez falls on his sword the better.
102 Posted 14/04/2016 at 14:24:19
Only the directors of the likes of Leeds, Orient and Charlton behave like that. However loud the mob bays, it will have little impact on Everton's decision makers either new or old.
Be patient, dear friends. Let the dust settle on the season and lets see what happens. Who knows, we may yet end up as FA Cup winners and higher in the league than last season. Stranger things have happened.
103 Posted 14/04/2016 at 14:27:00
I liked your earlier post about chanting "Everton are magic but Martinez is tragic..." It shows we're behind the team and giving them all the encouragement we can but lets the manager and the Board know who we hold responsible.
I was going to say morale is low but it looks like it's gone out the window. I think how the crowd willed the team on against Chelsea was the only way we can possibly influence results.
104 Posted 14/04/2016 at 14:48:06
Not sure who I would try and get in to replace him but I would insist on somebody that has passion and someone that can get the team fit again. Not a Mark Hughes though, that would be truly awful!
On another point If Lukaku wants to go, let him. If Stones wants to go, ta ta then. Only people that want to wear the shirt and wear it with pride are welcome. Then we can have our team back again.
105 Posted 14/04/2016 at 14:51:06
106 Posted 14/04/2016 at 15:25:05
My first match was 1947 with my dad holding my on a barrier in Gwladys Street.It was the Boys Pen after that one seeing lots of great times & trophies since.
I don't know how much longer I will be around and I would love to see another. I agree, the manager going now just may not be wise? But my concern is be for the club future that's given me some fantastic occasions league's Wembley's, Bayern Munich semi-final, Rotterdam etc. but what of next season if this guy stays??? Very doubtful.
Who should replace him? I don't know but I believe there would be a queue of decent applicants maybe some even looking, thinking & hoping right now.
107 Posted 14/04/2016 at 16:02:42
Where in my post did I say that I wasn't going to reply to any comments?
My post is a drunken rant, you say. 7 years ago that may have been the case. But present day, Anthony, sadly due to ill health not a drop can pass my lips. But that's life isn't it mate.
You say me not going won't make the slightest bit of difference. The point I was making if everyone followed suit it would make a difference.
But hey, I'm doing what sits well with me. I'm only sorr! I didn't do it sooner.
You buy your kids their season tickets, good on you Anthony.
As for me showing disrespect to fellow ToffeeWebbers. Do you mean like you showed me? Accusing me of a drunken rant. I mean I was going by their posts on Martinez, the team and Kenwright. What were you going by using the word drunk? A very wrong choice of word there Anthony.
But hey, I'm thick skinned and we can all use the wrong choice of words at times, including me.
108 Posted 14/04/2016 at 16:35:01
But still great to have a semi-psychotic, semi child-like exchange.
Yes, Michael... waiting for it.
109 Posted 14/04/2016 at 16:40:04
110 Posted 14/04/2016 at 16:54:59
111 Posted 14/04/2016 at 16:56:08
Pitch was tiny â€“ my first visit â€“ so I think on Wembley we will have a great fast attacking edge with Baines on wing and Lukaku and Barkley.
112 Posted 14/04/2016 at 17:23:56
According to Martinez 0-0 to crystal palace was incredible. Is the man drunk or insane? This is the worst team in the league the last 20 rounds.
He had been talking about Champions League... yesterday I think we looked like a bad Championship team at best. Swapping between Atletico Madrid - Barcelona and Crystal Palace - Everton; it made me realize that we are light-years behind Champions League quality.
He comes out with the same shit formation that clearly does not work and players that look far far away from their best.
One more season with Martinez and we will be relegated. This clown has to be removed immediately.
113 Posted 14/04/2016 at 17:45:31
And if he provides a long overdue home win against Southampton it will be further incredible proof, to them, his star is rising again fast. The two games after that are the real test though.
Most of us are still convinced he's a disaster. Let's hope he proves us all wrong, it has to be his very last chance.
114 Posted 14/04/2016 at 18:37:03
To be fair though, can see where he's coming from. After McCarthy was sent off, I thought we were the better team, until palace got a grip and put us under some pressure. Not sure about the second yellow for McCarthy. Yes was probably a foul, but did it warrant a yellow card? I'm not sure, but then again there was a whacking big concrete post blocking my view of the incident!!
115 Posted 14/04/2016 at 19:13:52
Ged mate (109), miss you too. Hope you are taking care of the pheasants and peasants.
117 Posted 14/04/2016 at 22:11:09
Fucking Everton do my head in, accepting mediocre shit like this. It's no wonder we get called the bitters.
Fucking way the club is run, it's no surprise we're so fucking bitter!! We tolerate this shit any longer and we deserve exactly what we get.. jack shit!!
118 Posted 14/04/2016 at 22:23:06
He would just need to know the German for "I know we lost and threw away a comfortable lead but we were phenomenal."
119 Posted 15/04/2016 at 01:18:59
Fair play mate, was poor judgment to say you had a drunken rant, I was a bit annoyed that I'd sat and commented on this subject only for you to shoot it down as being 'sick of all you spineless fans talking shit'.
We're all passed off atm, no hard feelings.
ps: Your idea of boycotting the game would hold sway if you put it out there properly; something needs doing to show the owners that we have had enough. The money is were it hurts the owners the most, but sadly my entrance fee has been payed in May last year.
Here's to happier times blue.
121 Posted 15/04/2016 at 04:25:46
Same here mate no hard feelings. We all want the same thing some success. Hopefully it will come in the FA Cup. I really feel we will win it.
Let's hope we can and it would great for your kids to celebrate. The season won't seem wasted then.
122 Posted 15/04/2016 at 07:03:46
123 Posted 15/04/2016 at 12:14:55
No words â€“ just walk away... it's not good enough â€“ we are not going to watch this rubbish anymore... and not going to listen to the Incredible One.
124 Posted 16/04/2016 at 08:23:34
It does my head in when I hear "He has lost the dressing room... players don't want to perform for him"...
If you want to behave like little girls and don't want to play for the manager that's up to you. Perform for the lads who took one day off work then went in the next day after 3 hours sleep.
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