Everton 1 - 1 Southampton
James McCarthy is suspended after picking up two bookings in the draw at Palace in midweek
Roberto Martinez made a raft of changes, six in all, with Gibson and Osman both fit to start in midfield and Kone leading the line. Callum Connolly and Tom Davies are the Academy graduates on the bench beside Barkley and Lukaku with Jagielka injured and McCarthy suspended.
Everton started off in the bright sunshine in pass-the-parcel style until captain Osman took the initiative and drove a good move forward on the left, jinking through and crossing low, very inviting, but as usual not a single Blue shirt there to convert.
Everton won a free-kick on the right that seemed to be bread and butter for Forster but he fumbled it and the defenders had to clear in desperation.
Martina scooped over a high cross for the visitors that Robles had to push over his bar for a corner that thankfully posed no threat. Long got clear but was called marginally offside.
Poor backward play drew groans, and a poorer pass by Funes Mori gave the ball away, and put them under needless pressure, Wanyama firing a daisy cutter that Robles had well in hand.
Everton were struggling to play out from the back as the visitors sensed a chance to press them high up the field, but Kone did finally see the ball and Deulofeu picked out Mirallas with a cross that the Belgian volleyed superbly on goal, but straight at the body of Fonte.
Southampton broke well after Van Dijk defeated Coleman and they had three chances to score, Tadic volleying the last one over. Long then got behind the Blue back line but lashing it over Robles and his goal.
Funes Mori finally scooped one up for Kone to head down nicely into Mirallas's path but a defender stole it before his second touch. Oviedo turned his ankle keeping a ball in which allowed Soton to surge forward and Tadicfired in on Robles.
Oviedo got treatment when Fonte was down, winded by Kone, the game restarting with a free-kick that Southampton worked around until Oviedo won the ball and Mirallas almost beat Fonte but for a sneaky pull-back.
Gibson broke up play well and set Deulofeu on his way but a poor touch played the ball straight to a visitor and Everton were under pressure again.
Funes Mori played out of defence beautifully and fed Mirallas, who ran on through the middle and took a shot, that was deflected for a corner. However, Pawson stopped the game so that Fonte could get attention for a head injury, eventually going off with Yashida coming on for him.
Kone tried a wonderfully acrobatic bicycle kick that failed completely to make any contact with the ball.At the other end, Mane fired just wide of the near post.
Funes Mori, again played a very risky ball in mdfied and Gibson had to scythe Long down, and was lucky to only see yellow. A fantastic free-kick by Bertrand almost crept in at the angle but Robles was across to help it go behind. From the short corner, Everton looked to break through Deulofeu but he was too easily thwarted.
Another Southampton attack and the defensive interception by Stones was world class to prevent Pelle from converting at short range. From the corner, well worked and flicked onto the Everton post by Long, another scare for the Blues who had lived very dangerously, giving away another corner in added time. But the visitors overcooked it before they won yet another corner off a deflected strike. Van Dijk amazingly missed yet another chance to fire the visitors ahead with the last kick of the half, the ball lashed over the Gwladys Street goal. Everton very, very lucky not to be 2 or 3 goals in arrears.
The Blues restarted things and attacked down the right but Deulofeu's cross bounced behind off the heels of Coleman. At the other end, Coleman did well to defend a Mane header but Besic gave a way a silly free-kick near the corner flag that was curled into teh hands of Robles.
Southampton threatened again, Tadic jinking and dodging before lashing a great shot onto the Everton bar, thanks to a glance off the head of Gibson. Deulofeu broke but his pass was never going to reach Kone.
More Southampton pressure, another corner, gien away by Coleman, who overstrecthed, Callum Connolly coming on for his Everton debut, heading the corner away to a great cheer from teh Goodison crowd delighted at last to see some new blood on the field.
Yet another Soton corner saw Kone isolated in his own are, trying toshield the ball from three red-&-white shirts. The pathetic state of Everton's prowess was demonstrated when Funes Mori got forward but at a lame pace and there was no sense of urgency in the Blues play as the ball rolled harmlessly off Mirallas for a Southampton goalkick in a rare visit to the other end of the field.
At least that presaged a spell of what might be described as 'end-to-end' football, leading to Osman getting fouled by Pelle for a dangerous free-kick, Mirallas the man to curl it harmlessly straight into the arms of Forster.
Martinez decided to replace Deulofeu, who had done remarkably little, with Ross Barkley. Davis replaced Pelle. But Southampton continued to exert pressure, Barkley denied the chance to play out of the back and another Southampton corner given up., gathered well at the near post by Robles.
Connoly took a good throw-in that led to a corner and the second bite of teh cherry from Funes Mori drove through the crowd and past Forster to give Everton a welcome but hardly deserved lead, thanks to a lazy attempt to deflect the ball by Bertrand.
The Southampton pressure finally paid off as Everton failed to clear, a poor touch by Funes Mori and Tadic finally poked one home. They almost scored a second, as increased confidence saw them running rings around the lame Everton defence, Mane almost squeezing the ball in at the near post after a torrid spell of pressure on the Everton goal.
This only caused the visitors to up their already persistent pressure on the Everton goal. !7-year-old Tom Davies replaced Darron Gibson for the last 10 mins, and it looked for a moment as if Everton would finally play up a little better!
Davies made a fantastic challenge to stop a Southampton attack. But Everton just could not make forward progress, Barkley then Osman losing the ball far too easily. It was all Southampton as they pushed hard for the winner as 4 mins were added.
But the tempo had gone out of the game and nothing of note transpired in yet another totally uninspiring Everton display, despite the changes in manpower, and a chorus of boos from the faithful.
Scorer: Funes Mori (68'), Mane (76')
Everton: Robles, Oviedo, Stones, Funes Mori, Coleman (52' Connolly), Osman (c), Gibson [Y:43'] (82' Davies), Besic, Mirallas, Deulofeu (63' Barkley), Kone.
Subs not Used: Howard, Lukaku, Niasse, Pienaar.
Southampton: Forster, Martina, van Dijk, Fonte (35' Yoshida), Bertrand, Wanyama (72' Rodriguez [Y:84']), Clasie, Mane, Long, Tadic, Pelle (65' S Davis).
Subs not Used: Cedric, Romeu, Ward-Prowse, Stekelenburg.
Referee: Craig Pawson
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1 Posted 16/04/2016 at 14:14:43
2 Posted 16/04/2016 at 14:16:37
Despite that, let's hope they get a good win and show Barkley, Rom and some of the other lazy players how it's done.
3 Posted 16/04/2016 at 14:20:42
4 Posted 16/04/2016 at 14:25:42
I firmly believe he'll be relieved of his duties come the end of the season ,no matter what happens.
5 Posted 16/04/2016 at 14:29:28
To touch on a point mentioned in this thread. I don't think any of us want an Everton manager to fail. We're all just sick of Martinez.
A: If the game doesn't play to our strengths, he doesn't know how to adapt.
B: He knows he's been found out and his pride is hurting
C: He doesn't know why we're losing
D: He's lost the fans trust but also the players
E: He plays the game how he wants to play it. Not to the strengths of the players he has.
Would any of you have the Neville's? or is too much of a risk?
6 Posted 16/04/2016 at 14:35:34
7 Posted 16/04/2016 at 14:36:46
Still no sign of the lesser-spotted Loch Niasse then?
8 Posted 16/04/2016 at 14:37:19
Mirallas on one wing, Deulofeu on the other, I think its a decent team he has put out. One thing with Kone, he will bloody run and not stand with his hands on his hips, god knows whats up with Niasse, but it's not as bad a side he has put out as some may think.
Besic and Gibson, the interesting midfield combination.
10 Posted 16/04/2016 at 14:39:05
Niasse should get a minute or two in added time for us to make a judgement (bloody hell he's probably got a case for breach of contract, surely he never signed for us for this). if he's not fit why the hell is he on the bench?
Just noticed how many question marks I've got in that rant: we definitely need a change. Wouldn't it be nice if Simeone turned out to be a lifelong Evertonian? There I go again???
11 Posted 16/04/2016 at 14:43:18
12 Posted 16/04/2016 at 14:45:46
13 Posted 16/04/2016 at 14:49:25
Winning the cup will stay his execution I'll bet, but that's about as likely as a top half finish on current form.
14 Posted 16/04/2016 at 15:18:14
15 Posted 16/04/2016 at 15:56:16
16 Posted 16/04/2016 at 16:00:16
17 Posted 16/04/2016 at 16:02:21
18 Posted 16/04/2016 at 16:29:14
19 Posted 16/04/2016 at 16:31:10
21 Posted 16/04/2016 at 16:53:17
22 Posted 16/04/2016 at 16:53:37
23 Posted 16/04/2016 at 16:54:14
24 Posted 16/04/2016 at 16:55:45
25 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:01:02
26 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:02:43
And, how many points lost from winning positions this season? I would Google it but I would more than likely cry.
FFS please get shut of Martinez.
27 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:03:44
A top football team turn into this mish-mash of nearly men!
We are not a team we are a blend of has-beens and not good enough's mixed in with the odd bit of talent and quality!
I never went again today and I won't be renewing my season ticket which I've had for 20 years if this clown is in charge next summer!
28 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:03:55
29 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:04:57
30 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:04:59
Okay, I'm for Rhino to take charge and bring his kids with him. Osman and Gibson and Kone why even bother. Where is Henen or Holgate? I give up what a complete shambles this club has become.
31 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:05:33
32 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:06:28
33 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:08:10
We are truly horrible to watch under this manager..
No hope at all for Wednesday or next Saturday.
34 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:08:14
Our away form is Champions League... if only our pesky home fans would stop making our phenomenally talented players fear playing in the incredible moment we know they can.
What a manager!
35 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:09:48
Thank heavens for some tiny chink of hope from the belated introduction of the 2 youngsters.
Martinez must go and go with his head held in shame.
36 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:10:45
I hoped the fringe players coming into the side Oviedo, Besic, Gibson, Osman, Mirallas, Kone would at least bring some energy and effort in an attempt to promote themselves, but for the most part they were poor to middling.
Oviedo is usually a cute defender and I don't know how much going over on his ankle in the 1st half inhibited him, but he got tore a new one all match by Tadic. And nothing was done to address that main threat the Saints carried.
Gibson and Mirallas had 1 or 2 moments, Osman less so, Kone is what he is, but Besic was very poor and barely featured.
The saving grace(s) (if any...) from the game were another goal for Funes Mori and the cameo appearances of the two young lads, Connolly and Davies. Early days, but Tom Davies looks a player.
37 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:11:23
Will be interesting to see what we do at right back if Seamus has got a hamstring problem. If Jags is unfit then we can't play Stones (who is very weak at righ-back anyway). I'm assuming Hibbert is out of the equation. Oviedo? Holgate? Besic can play in defence but is left-sided.
38 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:17:21
Where will this all end? I predict an absolute mauling at Anfield and a good kicking at Wembley from Man Utd. I am so frustrated with this excuse of a manager and his fucking philosophy.
Kenwright and/or Moshiri, if you have a fraction of concern for this once great club as we the fans have, then please do something about the current situation.
39 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:20:52
What a fucking manager.
40 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:21:09
41 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:22:18
I understand we have two hard games coming up, but aren't we supposed to try and win every game?
42 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:24:32
Why is Galloway not in the squad? He's a better defender than Oviedo or Baines an he could have played to keep Coleman fit for Wembley.
43 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:25:02
44 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:26:12
The two lads that came on did more than the rest of them all game. It looks like Unsy has them playing, so why not bring him in till the end of the season? He might be able to install a bit of pride for the semi, a game I'm dreading; it could be embarrassing.
I've just been told that, if we don't win the last two home games, then this will be the worst Everton home performance of all time.
What do you think, Roberto?
46 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:29:00
Gibson is a good player. He was decent today and he can pick a pass.
Personally I'd have him as a starter ahead of McCarthy.
47 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:30:14
Fair enough, but he's hardly a long term solution is he?
And I agree whole heartedly with you... Martinez Out!
48 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:30:26
What we did learn from today is that Roberto will never ever alter his system regardless of the circumstance despite it being doomed to failure. I hope Moshiri was at the ground to hand him his P45 personally. The club really does need a major overhaul on and off the pitch; will it happen? I doubt it.
49 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:32:08
Martinez will squeeze the positives out of the two young lads' performances. I have now reached the conclusion that Oumar Niasse is a total waste of a clean shirt!
50 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:32:21
How much longer can Kenwright look at Martinez. It's a disgrace that he's still here, and playing Gibson and Osman, who have played little football all season, ahead of the younger players, who were a breath of fresh air, when they came on, says it all.
Moshiri must step in and put us all out of our misery, and SACK him.
51 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:33:33
Any confirmation of this scurrilous rumour?
52 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:35:25
53 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:35:27
54 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:35:29
55 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:36:35
He was there, and he was on his phone on the big screen, not asleep.
56 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:40:09
We simply just have to have a player who can pick out a forward pass.
McCarthy has regressed since he started playing for us and should only be on the bench at Wembley.
57 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:40:34
58 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:41:37
59 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:41:48
60 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:41:58
Seamus will play in the semi.
The signal looked pre arranged to me.
61 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:43:09
It will lift the whole place immediately, players will be relieved and fans happy that something positive has been done. It gives the board plenty of time to find a proper manager and not a delusional egotist.
62 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:43:37
63 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:43:39
64 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:45:40
One thing Roberto has managed to achieve this season is a united Everton fan base... United against him!!
66 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:48:44
68 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:50:38
Says it all really.
If that's all we have, then....
Just want Martinez out, now!!
69 Posted 16/04/2016 at 17:52:14
71 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:00:58
Looking at our away form compared to that at home, it is clear that the players are more comfortable playing away from Goodison at the moment. We boo a team off after a 1-1 draw today. The reds went 2 down the other night and the Kop practically sucked the ball into the net no booing, just committed support. That's a real shame and is down to us as much as Kenwright or Martionez.
72 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:01:18
Joe @46 Gibson is not a good player. He does a job & that's all, which is why Man U got rid of him. Hardly ever fit to play.
It was nice to see the 2 kids given a chance but where is Galloway?
Let's hope Holgate, Connolly or Jones is given a run out at right back against the shite. I am not a believer in playing a senior player out of position just to give him a game.
73 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:01:32
The "fan" who invaded the pitch to have a go at Martinez was out of order though. We all share his sentiments but that was a real cockwomble of a thing to do, made us look more idiotic than we are already.
Definite shambles though... whole game was poor from our part. Southampton will be going home thinking how they only got a draw from this after a raft of chances and hitting the woodwork twice.
No point keeping Martinez any longer... today showed that there is absolutely nothing there from the players anymore. Absolutely no positives apart from Funes Mori maybe.
74 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:01:47
Southampton must be gutted to only get a draw out of that game with the amount of space they had in front of our back four. Tadic was immense. We were utter pants but defended quite well given the pressure we were under.
There was just no upfield outlet at all. Niasse must be totally crap, not to even get on in that game, never mind not starting!
Martinez will/must be sacked next Saturday night after our two heavy defeats next week. There can be no other outcome after today's efforts... or total lack of them.
I did think that Gibson and Funes Mori did okay today though but the highlight of the game for us was one little piece of skill from Davies in a tight situation in our half late on. Relegation next season if the phenomenal one is still here.
Fans going on about top class foreign managers are deluding themselves. Who with any ambition would come here?! In reality, Hughes or Moyes for me I'm afraid to say. Both of whom would have us higher up the table, without a doubt.
Putting tin hat on now!! I can't believe people are championing Rafa Benitez. Do we really want a manager who called us a small club and who we've called a fat Spanish waiter for years! No former RS manager for me... ever!!
75 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:04:49
We look like a team fighting for relegation and the semi can't paper over the cracks. If we don't beat United, Martinez has to be sacked after the game. If we do beat them, he has to go at the end of the season. Either way, he's gotta go!!
Tom Davies was the one positive to take away from the game. He looks a very good player for such a young age. I'm looking forward to seeing more of him next season. He looks like he can offer something at 17 which shows how good he is.
If Coleman's injured, play Holgate at right-back next Saturday. He's meant to be pushing for the first team squad and been playing really well lately. Otherwise play Connolly. He was committed and wanted to play (unlike some of the senior players) he didn't do anything wrong today.
76 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:05:14
Go and be a red then
I don't think you get this at all.
I sentence you to 10 minutes on the naughty step.
77 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:06:59
78 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:10:39
Everyone could see their goal was coming we must have Buster Keaton as our defensive coach. Don't agree with the wooden-top who ran on the pitch but understand the frustration. Most of the players looked disinterested and those given a chance today didn't take it.
We were lucky Southampton didn't score three or four having rattled the woodwork twice. Need to turn off radio/TV and phone on Wednesday not looking good. Unless the Everton who beat Chelsea in the quarterfinal turn up next Saturday, Wembley is going to be painful day out.
79 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:12:58
81 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:15:53
83 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:20:42
84 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:21:24
85 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:21:42
86 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:22:33
Surely earning thousands a week is motivation enough to perform. Sure, you are entitled to your opinion, but to come on to blame supporters for the team being utter woeful is insane.
And speaking of reds, they wanted shut of Rodgers as they could see he wasn't good enough and they demanded better, hence Rodgers was sacked and they went for one of the top managers in Europe. Rodgers had a far better record than Martinez at the time!!
Food for thought, that draw has guaranteed us the worst ever points tally at home in our top flight record. This hasn't happened over night, it's been two years in the making. I imagine the next two games will decide Roberto's future.
Also, how can Niasse who was signed at the end of January, still not get into that squad? I've heard rumours about him and normally I will make my own mind up but if he can't get in that squad then I'm starting to believe the rumours...
If Niasse is not fit, then why is he on the bench? Because, if that's the case, he is holding a young player back!
And is our away form really that good?
87 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:22:42
Once again, Roberto, sees it differently. We were jammy to get the equaliser, although fair play to Funes Mori.
88 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:27:02
89 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:27:48
What a Chairman.
What a manager.
I could weep but Kenwright and now Martinez have just about killed off those strong emotions toward my club.
90 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:27:58
Perhaps we should go for him. He seems to have got the players and fans onside pretty quick.
91 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:31:25
92 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:31:27
I don't know where you sit (if you do) but the atmosphere is not poisonous or anything like it, certainly not near me in the Paddock.
Apathetic yes but nowhere near poisonous. The crowd does not undermine players' performance, that's entirely down to the clown standing in front of the dugout with his total lack of direction. The team he inherited was renowned for its team spirit and tactical discipline all gone, dismantled by Martinez, Jones and Lawrence.
He has sucked all the passion from the fans without a doubt. We just go through the motions at the ground, it is just depressing.
You clearly don't go to any away games either, Paul, if you think there is no discontent there.
93 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:31:42
Surely Martinez has to go before next season.
94 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:32:58
We are imploding... it's the nineties revisited!
95 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:34:47
96 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:37:31
97 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:40:24
There are dozens of very capable managers who would be a good fit or our club without considering THEIR casts-off!
98 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:41:21
99 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:42:23
This "going through the motions" bollocks that these players are giving us at the moment isn't going to get 30-odd thousand fans shouting is it?
The second biggest cheer today was when young Davies chased down a ball and got a challenge in. (Take note, Barkley!)
Give them something to get excited about, ffs!!
100 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:44:10
"There are dozens of very capable managers who would be a good fit or our club"
And they have to be available or potentially available.
103 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:48:40
As for today I cannot believe that at least two of the kids didn't start, the point in bringing on Ross or having Osman as captain or playing Kone â€¦....
As for Ross, I love him to bits but he looks like he needs a week in the sauna.
104 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:48:45
I believe young Liam Walsh could be squad material next season.
I really hope so, as the youngsters we have can't do no worse, than some of the so called established squad. Martinez out.
105 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:50:52
By your own admission, there was only booing at the final whistle. And very mild it was too, given this season and the run of results, especially at GP.
To describe as you do that the GP crowd has been poisonous, and critical of players to the point that it undermines their confidence, is simply not true.
Rather, the crowd is becalmed and subdued because there is absoutely nothing (for the most part...) for them to get excited or agitated about.
How many moments, how many passages of play by Everton today, set the pulse racing, put you on the edge of your seat or actually lifted you out of your seat? For me, I had to wait 86 minutes until Tom Davies won a great tackle in the box, then did a little shimmy before calmly playing the ball out.
To continue to lay the blame for Everton's atrocious performances this season on the 'poisinous' fan support as you attempt here, and as others before you have done, really grates with me as it is both false and also deflects the blame and focus from where it should lie, with the coaching staff and players.
106 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:54:00
I'd take Rafa over Martinez. Would you take Suarez if he was offered to us for say Lukaku's money? I guess not because he is an highly competitive win at all costs ex-redsh cannibalistic animal.
Besides the cannibal bit sounds just like what we need.
107 Posted 16/04/2016 at 18:57:13
Let the people at the top sort this mess out. Firstly by identifying the new manager now, not at the end of the season, and secondly by removing this arrogant and misguided incumbent within one hour of the final whistle of the season.
108 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:03:38
110 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:04:05
A good side Southampton with Tadic exceptional; Oviedo looks as though his injury has finished him. We're a club in crisis and odds on to go deeper as we lose the next two games. I can see an ultimate humiliation coming Wednesday as a rudderless Everton come up against a rampant Liverpool and again as the wreckage meets a much improved United side on Saturday.
111 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:05:22
112 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:07:11
And where are the clowns?
Quick, send in the clowns
Martinez and Kenwright ?
He should of sacked Martinez last season. It's even worse than the Mike Walker team now.
113 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:07:44
115 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:10:55
"experienced and good enough" and available.
Koemann would have to be barking to leave Saints for a mid table, blinkered outfit like we've become under Martinez.
And I'm off to strap on a nose bag now so any response will be much later, and red wine fuelled, or tomorrow.
116 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:13:38
I've always been a fan of Osman but he should no longer be starting there are other options. Deulofeu has seriously gone off the boil of late. Gibson played well. Stones is looking a bit more steady in the last few games (great support for him at Palace midweek). Besic isn't fulfilling his promise, though.
A seriously weak side today that any manager would have struggled to get a win out of against a good Southampton side.
117 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:15:16
118 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:17:47
We stunk the gaff out today.
119 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:28:54
I don't understand how anyone would welcome Benitez as the next Everton manager. Also the fawning, referring to him as Rafa. It does my head in.
Hows about any of these 12 - Mourinho, Bielsa, De Boar, Koeman, Howe, Mancini, Hiddink, Simeone, Bilic, Emery, Garcia, I'd even have Moyes back over the fat Spanish waiter.
120 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:29:09
121 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:29:31
Let's be bold and go for the best, anyone except the FSW who's a FSB!!!
122 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:30:09
My wife is available for that position and like Martinez knows nothing about football. She would do far better than him at Everton because she wouldn't try to confuse the players with the type of tactical idiocy seen week in week out from Everton.
Enough of this nonsense of listing who may be good enough and available, it is defeatist nonsense and an abject acceptance of the total mediocrity that RM represents.
123 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:30:59
Somehow it would feel very Everton if we somehow squirmed past Utd (penalties perhaps?) and rolled over Watford in the final.
Then suddenly we could be on for 10thish and the cup.
Would that make it all ok? I'm not sure, but it would surely make it our best season in a very long time.
The worse we play in the league the more convinced I am the cup is ours. Strange old game.
124 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:31:13
Come on Moshiri grow a set and pull the plug on this nightmare.
125 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:34:05
126 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:34:55
Still need rid of Martinez.
127 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:37:56
You could be right, mate. I don't know what would be more: Everton win on Wednesday and lose the semi or get a hiding at Anfield and win at Wembley!
128 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:41:03
129 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:42:27
130 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:43:21
"The best squad we've had in years" comes nowhere near good enough. no quick fix for this shambles far to many overrated over hyped mediocre players if we can get money for them fucking do it just keep the honest players.
Put on the two young players for an excuse, nothing to do with a football or game decision... what a prick.
131 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:55:25
Will he see the Liverpool game as meaningless? I suspect he he knows what it means and I believe we will win. Also, I believe we will win the semi final. I have little regard for Martinez but I believe there is a twist to our season and I think today was a bonus point.
132 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:03:32
This is fast turning into a farce, if the guy is unfit it is phenomenal, I only took three months to run a half marathon from scratch. How long does it take to get fit for a football player who did not have a major injury. Maybe he is just rubbish.
Only highlights for me was Funes and Tom Davies.
My middle son is called Tommy Davies so for the first time ever I may put a player's name on the back of my shirt.
134 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:11:24
He has to attend the Bournemouth and Norwich game. The club will oppose any attempt by the fan to ask for a Football Banning Order to be imposed upon himself.
135 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:14:25
136 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:19:05
137 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:26:02
Last time we won the FA Cup there was a real magical feeling about it, we'd got rid of a incompetent, staved off relegation and the team had a real fighting spirit about it. There was genuine hope for the future with Joe Royle and his 'dogs of war' team.
The ideal scenario for the rest of this season would be for Joe Royle to replace the current incompetent manager for the rest of the campaign and instill fight in the players and gives us fans fresh hope.
138 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:29:47
You just knew that they would get the equalizer. How they didn't beat a very very poor Everton side, I don't know. If that is the depth of our squad, we are fucked but hopefully at least 6 players will be moved on.
That number hopefully doesn't include Stones or Lukaku although I think the latter will be sold. So be it. But Martinez and his fucking gormless sidekick Jones have to be sacked ASAP. The rot has well and truly set in.
It is that obvious to everyone of us that watch this guttless bunch of footballers and it hurts to watch it unfold before our eyes. Martinez has self belief bordering on insanity at times. But I think and hope that the wave has become to big for him to ride now.
Moshiri must have witnessed the supporter run on the pitch today and realised he needs to act sooner rather than later. We have all felt like doing that at some point and I for one applaud him for it. He showed more fight and passion than the whole team put together. At least he wont have to put up with watching that shower of spineless bastards anymore.
Sad to see us come so low in 2 seasons.The hardwork starts now Mr Moshiri. Good luck... you will need it.
139 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:31:04
140 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:31:08
141 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:33:07
Whatever the outcome (and I'll be hoping for success in both games and then the final if we get through), I want Frank De Boer here next season, taking over from where Martinez left off with developing the youth and creating an exciting young squad and winning things like what he achieved with Ajax. In my opinion, he is the perfect fit for Everton if it's possible in getting him.
143 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:34:03
144 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:36:04
How can you support Everton and not want them to win a trophy? Why are we all spending a fortune next week (and hopefully again for the Final)? To get beat? Baffles me.
145 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:39:01
146 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:48:13
148 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:54:30
(Good on ya tho' - I know what you mean!)
149 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:56:19
Then Moshri and Co can get on with running a competent club, free of the two jokers.
150 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:59:58
There is no hope while Martinez is here, I can't even get excited about any new players we might potentially sign. I'm willing to wait until there is a better vibe about the place before winning a trophy. Shame on me, I know.
151 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:05:47
It's over! Ending the season on a bad run will continue into next season. The manager has lost his way again. Players and fans agree. Martinez, your time is up!
I fear I will be writing the same in November!!!
152 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:12:00
We could certainly do better than TFSW. However, we are not actually even in the market for a replacement right now (officially), but who out of those that are available (and that does NOT include at least half those listed by Gavin) could we actually attract. I like many have a certain feeling of despair that we will be stuck with our current RM (as opposed to Milan's RM) at the start of next year.
I don't really care who sees us through til the end of this season. The players will either win us the FA cup or not and I think it will make little or no difference who is at the helm. At the end of the day I suppose at least RM has some credibility in that department. Fuck knows how though!
153 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:13:41
I had to read that post twice. I can't believe such is your dislike for Martinez you would prefer us to get dumped out of the cup than start next season with him as manager.
We've not won a trophy in over 20 years. If it means we have to endure Martinez until the end of October or November when the inevitable sacking would happen, it would be a sacrifice I'd be more than willing to take if it meant I could see Jags lift some silver wear at Wembley.
154 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:30:09
155 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:31:41
Managers are hired hands who come and go but if they leave us with a special day then I can tolerate a draw with Southampton.
156 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:33:56
157 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:38:19
To be fair Gibson was ok, nothing more. I watched it in the pub and felt like I did while sitting there, deflated. A poor performance.
Feel like crying. Fed up, drunk and tired.
158 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:42:21
159 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:42:36
160 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:49:09
Apart from the two youngsters, who were a breath of fresh air, it was a case of more of the same for the long suffering Goodison faithful.
Abysmal creativity, and no goal threat. Kev occasionally showed flashes but Kone was truly awful. Barkley should have stayed on the bench, and poor Ossie is a spent force. Oviedo was being destroyed in that second half, we didn't adjust to help him out, and Besic was adrift in a sea of nothingness.
At least we got a point though it was more than we deserved.
161 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:06:05
He slagged us off once. Big deal. We slag them off all the time. Let's not be hypocrites. He'd certainly get miles more out of this squad.
We were second best all over the pitch today. Saints must be thinking how they didn't win it. Only consolation for me in another shit day for us was getting Mori at 25/1 to score the first goal.
162 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:12:18
166 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:26:26
BTW Phil Walling, I would like to hold my hand up and apologize, you called Martinez out as a fraud after the first season and took a lot of stick for that, you were right all along mate!
167 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:27:05
We are going from one low point to another this season, compounded by the disaster that was last season. It has been pointed out several times that we are now going to achieve our lowest points total at home ever... considering some of the sides we have had in the past that takes some doing... especially when considering some of the players we have at our disposal. It highlights one thing amongst others, that we have absolutely no heart and that is unforgivable at this club.
At least in other shit sides we have had the misfortune to see over the years, at least we had heart. Under no circumstances at all should Martinez remain and to be honest, if he does, regardless of a cup win, it will just signal to me and many others what a small minded unambitious and a complete also-ran club we are. If we keep this guy we will reach a new low in incompetence.
168 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:29:45
169 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:32:42
I watch a lot of U21s and he is the outstanding player and most naturally talented there. Well done to Tom and Callum btw they did brilliant.
170 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:41:24
171 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:56:42
The so called senior players you should be ashamed
174 Posted 16/04/2016 at 23:14:19
I'm not saying that today was a good day, not even an acceptable day, but the introduction of Davies and Connolly showed there can still be a bright blue future if we could find the right man to replace Roberto.
175 Posted 16/04/2016 at 23:18:17
Gibson played well after so long out and needs to get some games under his belt. We need to get rid of Martinez and Kenwright. Until BK goes the club will continue to stagnate as every other club in the country gets a new stadium.
176 Posted 16/04/2016 at 23:20:04
Martin, in none of my posts have I "insinuated that that there's nobody experienced or good enough or available to do better than RM". There are, I would imagine, managers who would do a far better job than Martinez, in fact I struggle to think of many who would do worse, and none who continue to spout such utter drivel week after week.
Read my posts again. I can't wait to see the back of this fool, I was merely, out of interest, inviting Phil to give a list of managers who would or could replace Martinez IN HIS OPINION. As this is a football, and Everton in particular, forum it IS for people to draw up a list of possible replacements if only to back up their pronouncements when they make sweeping statements regarding the club. It is only through this exchange of ideas that one can widen their horizons and see different perspectives.
As for defeatist nonsense, I would suggest that a lack of substance in an argument is a form of defeat in itself.
You say your wife knows nothing about football.
You make a good couple......;-)
177 Posted 16/04/2016 at 23:34:27
178 Posted 16/04/2016 at 00:09:35
Making that unthinkable relegation threat unthinkable.
179 Posted 17/04/2016 at 00:23:34
The man is a magician. If only he could make himself disappear he would be a shoo-in for "Britain's got bugger all talent" Bet Amanda Holden would give him the red button pronto.
180 Posted 16/04/2016 at 00:27:04
I saw 2 green shoots today. Davis and Connolley, they have the potential to do well in the future.
However, we didn't deserve the draw.
I have never known Goodison so quiet!
Why ban banners?
Gibson my man of the match for what it was!
Geri didn't seem interested and should have been subbed at half time.
Mirallas huffed and puffed but that was it!
Kone needs to know that you pass to a blue shirt, not a red one. How did he stay on for 90 mins!!!
Fines-Mori makes mistakes but well worth his place in this team.
Besic a voice in the wilderness, needs a run of games, same stout heart as Funes-Mori.
Davies and Connolley breath of fresh air.
Stones ok, Robles saved by the woodwork otherwise ok.
Oviedo ok ish.
Never saw Barclay make a tackle and probably never will!
Couldn't see the front of the banner that was paraded around the ground from where I was sitting. Can anyone tell me what it said.
I don't condone what the idiot did when he ran on the pitch pointing at Martinez, but he seemed to disappear from the touch line pretty rapidly. Why? big Dubc was next to him!!!
I can't see any positives from today, Southampton must feel that it was 2 points dropped.
Not looking forward to next 7 days.
Joys of being an Evertonian.
Please answer my questions whether you agree or disagree?
181 Posted 17/04/2016 at 00:34:57
Seamus will be liable to injuries whenever Gerry is played on his side. The lazy, gutless, unfit poseur hangs Seamus out to dry when it comes to backing him up, yet Seamus is always available overlapping at the top end.
The Opta stats will show the pitch invader covered more yards running towards his own keeper than our Spanish wing maestro. Ross too, looks overweight and our teams fitness levels are a real concern. Where is the urgency?
183 Posted 17/04/2016 at 00:43:28
My Man of the Match was Funes Mori, his goal was important but he is shaping up as a leader within the team. I agree he makes mistakes, most of them are when he over plays the ball, possibly under instruction.
I really like Mo Besic but today he looked as disinterested as Deulofeu.
Stones was good.
I disagree over Oviedo, had a absolute mare, made to look a clown time and time again.
Kone, Gibson, Osman all need these next few games to be there final Everton swan songs.
The two kids done great, in-form youngsters should have been available on the bench from January-February as the league season had been over since then, blooding youngsters gives the fans hope.
Biggest worry from today was Coleman's injury, but the lack of form of Mirallas, Deulofeu and Besic was equally worrying with the semi looming.
184 Posted 17/04/2016 at 00:52:41
If we don't play them we will never know if they can make the big time. We have a handful of really good prospects who given an opportunity would do just as well as these senior professionals.
Let's play them!
185 Posted 17/04/2016 at 03:34:51
186 Posted 17/04/2016 at 04:08:58
I still get very confused with RM's subs. Osman looked dead on his feet, had a poor game and kept giving the ball away, yet he kept Pienaar on the bench? Kone? Ineffective all game.
I think Martinez actually lost the players 12 months ago but they have been carrying on in silence, only now are we seeing a few starting to break ranks. A shame because I am now certain that whether we change manager at the end of the season or not some of our key young players will go.
The Niasse affair has to further evidence to the board that RM can't be trusted to spend money.
New manager, big name, the sort who could persuade players to stay and spend wisely on some new faces. That's what we need, lets make the change after the semi to Man Utd.
187 Posted 17/04/2016 at 04:53:36
We can all see the talent at our club and that's what's so frustrating – nothing is clicking into place. I feel the team were so very close to being a new force in the Premier League. For me now that feeling has vanished and we have more chance of platting fog than we do of battering another team.
I'm numb watching my team always waiting for the worst to happen, at this point if nothing changes and soon RM will lose his players if he hasn't lost some already.
I don't dislike RM as a Man but as our Manager I think he might be out of his depth but I would love him to prove me wrong by winning all of our remaining games.
188 Posted 17/04/2016 at 05:08:23
Ross must have permission from the manager to not tackle or track back. However he should at least try every now and then to keep the fans happy.
189 Posted 17/04/2016 at 07:28:50
191 Posted 17/04/2016 at 09:19:33
Some really good players have become pretty useless and are getting worse... others who have always been poor are selected to play (Kone... Deulofeu...).
Get rid of him and BK before we are relegated. Why ban Banners? They show how we all feel... it's clear and obvious how the majority of us feel.
192 Posted 17/04/2016 at 09:44:31
I don't no which is biggest: Barkley's arse or Lukaku's ego.
193 Posted 17/04/2016 at 10:55:20
There's surly no option other than to get rid of Martinez so why not do it NOW before the two only important games we have?! Give Dunc and Unsworth the reigns for the rest of the season, get 2-3 of the young lads in Davies and Dowell in particular and drop the likes of Kone for good, for fucks sake, before every Evertonian goes out of their minds...
194 Posted 17/04/2016 at 10:57:16
Unfortunately it looks like Moyes hard work has been undone and we are on the previous trajectory. We're not getting relegated this season, probably not next but sport is about momentum, building up speed in a certain direction and I don't like the way we are heading so, with a heavy heart, it's time to go Martinez and take your brown shoes with you.
As for the game yesterday, as with the Palace game, I struggled to watch it, so dull. But a few observations:
Gibson is a good midfielder, and good back up, he'll never be constant first choice due to his injury problems. That's why he only cost us £500k.
There have been screams for Besic to be included instead of Barry/McCarthy and now we know why he isn't. He was bought in the cheap as back with possible room to improve, and he's still there.
Niasse oops. I think we've bought a dud. He's not unfit, he's not good. When we signed him I watched the YouTube clips and thought that the goals shown would not be scored in the premier league. Hope I'm wrong.
Kone wasn't impressed when we bought him, not changed my mind.
Barkley and Lukaku they get a kicking on here every week, but the slow crappy team we saw yesterday was the team without them. A 20-goal striker occupied in a way that Kone doesn't and Barkley's ability to do something different also sparks life to the team.
I hate it when fans shout play the kids, but as we have nothing to lose, let's play the kids. Though I think the best ones are out on loan...
195 Posted 17/04/2016 at 11:38:23
Defending corners with the goalkeeper infront of the ball and neither post covered you wont find anywhere in any level of football other than at Everton, the sad thing is this way of doing things wont change with Martinez in charge.
A strong spine to the team thats down the middle "Roberto" and slowly building confidence by keeping clean sheets and defending as a team, stopping the ball coming in the box and allowing opponents 5 yards of space would be a start.
This apparently is are best squad for years how laughable them comments look after seeing the team and performance from yesterdays game.
197 Posted 17/04/2016 at 12:29:14
And we don't want Benitez as a manager!!! He is also crap.
198 Posted 17/04/2016 at 19:10:59
I saw it in the '80s and in '95 and there is no better feeling in football. I would love my 2 boys to see us win the cup. Would that mean Martinez keeps his job? None of us know that. It all depends on our new investor and how serious he is about building a side including a management team that can compete with the big teams.
After all, Manuel Pellegrini could possibly win the Champions League and we all know he will not be the ManCity boss next season!!!! Coybs
199 Posted 17/04/2016 at 22:35:57
When will the new owner take over.. will it be the end of the season?
Surely we can't go on like this. Martinez has ruined Stones and Barkley and plays everyone out of position... Get shut soon please... Let it be a Martinez-free zone.
200 Posted 17/04/2016 at 22:45:15
Not McCarthy (can't pass forward or score), Coleman (lost his attacking spark), Jagielka (not big enough, or a leader), Barkley (overweight, lazy and inconsistent), Besic (not the quality needed), Barry (too near his sell-by date), Delofeu (doesn't produce goals or assists), Cleverley (yesterday's man), Oviedo (can't defend or attack particularly well), or any of the other crocks, has-beens, never-weres and never-will-bes in our huge squad. Can't say about the youngsters as they never get a fair go.
It always puzzles me why people say we have the best group of players since the '80s I just can't see it.
201 Posted 17/04/2016 at 23:16:45
We are past halfway through April, have not won a League match since 1st March, and still are not yet mathematically safe from relegation with only two relegation spots remaining which is a completely disgraceful situation given the state of the club he took over less than three years ago.
You don't need any more confirmation of the systematic (and very consistent with his track record) dismantling of a stable club into complete chaos than the last paragraph.
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