Martinez happy with Everton’s ‘fight’

by | 16/04/2016  89 Comments  [Jump to last]

Roberto Martinez acknowledged that his team looked disjointed and rusty on the back of the changes he had to make to his line-up today but was happy that Everton earned a point against Southampton.

The Saints were the superior side on the day, underscoring why it is they and not the Toffees who were sitting three points off fifth place coming into the weekend but Ramiro Funes Mori had Everton on course for what would have been a fortunate win before Sadio Mané equalised.

A poor overall performance that extended Everton's winless run in the League to six matches was greeted with more boos from the home fans at the final whistle

“When you have to make five, six changes to the starting line-up from the game on Wednesday… we looked a little disjointed, we looked a little bit rusty and needed to find our normal rhythm,” the manager said to BBC Sport afterwards.

“But we overcame that lack of quality in our play with incredible fight and determination to get a positive result.

“Obviously, the disappointment at the end is once you get in front you just feel that you can hang on to [the lead] but overall, I think it's a hard-fought point. We got really stretched today as a squad and we found a way to compete against a very good Southampton side.”

Play in the second half was held up when an angry Everton fan invaded the pitch to make his feelings known to the manager while a banner held up in the Main Stand proclaimed “Martinez Out” and Martinez was asked if he could understand the unrest.

“Absolutely,” he said. “Looking at our results at home, they haven't been anywhere near what is expected and that's what need to turn around. You're starting with a real understanding of the responsibility of being at Everton is to win games on a consistent basis.

“We've done that away from home; our away record is exactly what we wanted but at home we haven't been producing those results and I accept the unrest. What we need to do is to make them proud this week and I know that whenever we need that support, it's always there. So we need to be together this week.“

 

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Paul Conway
1 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:43:10
I tried to make some sense of what Martinez said, but I found more sense in an anagram of Oumar Niasse..... ' our main ass '!

had an e left over, so I guess that stannds for Everton!
Steve Davies
2 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:45:07
I think the fan who ran onto the pitch has had more play time than Niasse?
Liam Wilson
4 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:45:44
Hi ha un taxi per al senyor Roberto Martínez esperant fora
Tony Abrahams
5 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:48:18
I think we would be a lot more together without you Roberto. I'm sorry it's come to this, but what have we become?
Jim Bennings
6 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:48:29
Shut up man before you make an even bigger fool of yourself. We were abysmal today and but for the woodwork and Southampton wasting a few good opportunities we would have been beaten again.. What's that now? 4 wins in the last 22 league games!!

Utter disgrace, an embarrassment for even a club like Norwich let alone Everton.

We just now await our routine execution at the hands of our neighbours on Wednesday, which no doubt Martinez will be overjoyed if we win a corner all game.

Good luck to any supporters going to the next few matches, never before have I had such little expectation for two massive matches. Supporting this Everton team really is enough to put even the most ardent fan off football.

Ian McDowell
7 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:50:18
Let's face it that was still a team of first team players albeit squad players. We had a 㾹.5 million pound forward on the bench who hasn't had a look in. Liverpool made many changes last week for the Stoke game after Dortmund and still got the win.

If these players can't play for the first team when required then why did we give them new contracts, Osman, Pienaar, Hibbert, Kone, and Gibson need to be moved on in the summer. Mirallas, Deulofeu, Besic, and Oviedo all need to be told to improve their game or they will be next.

Colin Glassar
8 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:51:42
He really can spin any adverse result/performance can't he? The thing is Roberto, we hear the same sound bites after every game and it's become as stale and fetid as the football we are playing. Time to move on amigo
Eugene Ruane
9 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:58:08
Yaaaaawn.

Martinez in talking bollocks non-shock!!!

By the way, the deranged meff who ran on was like a TW thread in human(ish) form.

"I demand you all witness my anger!" (then lashing out at attempts to curtail insane behaviour).

Damian Wilde
10 Posted 16/04/2016 at 19:58:23
'Our away record is exactly what we wanted' Oh so we have a 100% win record? How can eight draws be exactly what we want?

FUCK OFF MARTINEZ, he's making me ridiculously angry. I wish the fan had cracked him one.

Barry Jones
12 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:03:49
Moshiri was pretending to sleep when BK was telling him how good a manager RM is.
Tony Abrahams
13 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:05:20
I thought he looked more frustrated than angry Eugene, and think we must all be a bit insane, just for going through the turnstiles!
Jay Harris
14 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:06:49
"We have been talking a lot about the contrasting seasons we are having away from home and at home and it is understandable you get that frustration.

"But we have a really good opportunity to take advantage of where we are.

"We are competing in the (FA Cup) semi-final and we have games where we want to make fans proud.

"That is what we are going to do from now until the end of the season, make sure they are proud of our performances and results."

This was said after today's game. You couldn't make it up.

His utterances are becoming worse than his management – and that's saying something.

Andy Crooks
15 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:07:31
Colin, I sat in a bar after work today with neutrals who believe he is doing a good job. I have a pal, a scouser who remains loyal to Martinez and admires him. His dad works for Everton and he assures me that there is no feeling around the club that Martinez is under any kind of threat. It says a lot about our club and I accept that there is a positive to be taken from that.

I want Martinez gone but I believe his remit, endorsed by Kenwright, is to do more or less what he is doing; keep us safe and have a cup run. I do not think for a moment that Mr Moshiri will suddenly become a hands on ruthless owner. Marinez is here, in my view,as long as Bill is.So, I hope for the best and watch and support with fingers crossed.

Phil Roberts
16 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:08:02
Just been to check and Davies and Connolly are not even in the first team squads on the official site or ToffeeWeb (shame on the latter! :-) )

Anybody know why these lads were in the squad and not some of the older non-regulars and also what numbers did they wear? 103 or higher?

Barry Jones
17 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:10:18
Andy, if that is the case, and I totally believe you, then the only way to apply pressure is for fans not to renew season tickets. Attendance figures (and cash) speak volumes to shareholders.
Barry Jones
18 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:12:22
......or to do a "one off no show" like the Blackburn fans did to the chicken people a few years ago.
Joe Clitherow
19 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:13:05
33 and 41 Connolly and Davies respectively Phil.
Jamie Crowley
20 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:16:57
Nice shot son! It's important to be supportive.

Making gold out of shit...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn5ayQd7Y0Q

Danny Broderick
21 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:20:07
If I wasn't bringing my little lad on Saturday, I would love to bring a banner in my coat to Wembley:

'Martinez: Gracías y adíos'

I wouldn't display it until the end, obviously. I will be hoping and praying we can do it. But I can't see anything other than 2 defeats again this week. The wider world, and maybe some people on our board, need to realise how bad this fool is doing. He is the master of spin, so he has kidded everyone to thinking that our away record is fantastic. Yes we have only lost 2, but we have only won 5! Watford have won 6! There are several Premiership teams with better away records than ours.

We were dreadful today. After an hour, they had had 12 attempts to our 2. They had hit the post and the bar. They battered us.

David Perrin
22 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:22:55
Can we just get rid of him now, all teams generally perform better when a new manager comes in and the old useless guard have been evicted and a temporary assistant is put in place. This must be better than the current situation and as Lyndon quotes "sleep walking" into the next game.

David Barks
23 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:24:21
How can a team be rusty when it hasn't had any time off. This isn't coming out of a break, it's the second game of the week. Ah fuck it, I'm in New Orleans, not letting this joke of a manger who has ruined this team bring me down. On to the next Hurricane
Colin Glassar
24 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:29:47
Andy, the neutrals love him because he's handed over our top 10 status to other teams.

You are right saying he's safe whilst Papa Bill is still in the driving seat but I think that'll only be until the summer (fingers crossed).

Robert Elliott
25 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:36:26
I've just read on Sky Sports that the majority of home fans booed the fan who invaded the pitch to have a go at Martinez. I was sat in the Lower Bullens stand and it didn't sound like that to me. Interested to know what fans sat in other parts of the ground thought?
Graham Mockford
26 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:39:13
Phil #16

As Joe said 33 and 41 which were unassigned squad numbers. Both lads did ok.

What was most worrying about today was the obvious lack of spirit in the side, we were out fought and out muscled all over the pitch.

Only Funes Mori, Stones and Coleman came out with any credit from the starting XI.

Oviedo got absolutely taken apart, as bad a performance by a full back I've seen. Besic who was touted as captain material by some had another stinker, maybe not as bad as Arsenal but not too far behind.

Deulofeu literally bottled out of every challenge, if ever there was a player to sum up the Martinez era it is him. Kone was er Kone.

Gibson despite some nice touches faded and actually had cramp after 80 minutes. I mean a fucking professional footballer earning c.£2m a year not fit enough to play 90 minutes. Only under this regime.

I still think we could win next week, we have the players and maybe the big stage will be motivation enough to see another Chelsea performance.

It still won't hide the fact there is something rotten about this current set up.

Tony Rutherford
27 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:41:47
If I'm honest I really am struggling to understand what positives anyone can see in the second half of the season. Just look at the number of wins over the last couple of seasons. I gave him last season as sometimes you do have a second season blip.

This year however we have continued the decline and performances apart from the odd one-off that we seem to reserve for the cup have been poor. The only exception was the first 70 mins against West Ham that we still managed to throw away at the end. Again I hold Martinez personally responsible for that capitulation.

The key for me continues to be the lack of urgency and tempo that appears to permeate through the whole team. Fitness also seems to be a problem which is an absolute disgrace for professional sportsmen.

We have not played flowing attacking football for some time now and we don't appear to be anywhere near getting that formula back for whatever reason.

Teams that are doing well in this league always work hard and have a high tempo. Leicester and Liverpool more recently have demonstrated that as did City tonight. Too many of our players go through the motions with no fear of reprisal in terms of getting dropped.

I love the blues and don't believe in sacking managers for the sake of it, but really fear for us next year if Bobby remains in charge. Thanks for the positives Bobby but the last two years have made me grey and I have to say I don't enjoy going the game any more.

The last thing I need after is your comments that bear no resemblance to what has actually happened on the pitch. Say it as it is...please.

....and don't get me started on Niasse!

Ian Riley
28 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:42:27
Rusty in April. Says it all really. The Team has gone back ten years. Our defence and fight was our biggest asset pre Martinez.

Talk about a rebuilding job! It's going to take the next manager more than a summer to change the style and mentality.

Leave it till November when we are in the bottom five. It may be to late!!

Richard Farrington
30 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:45:01
Robert, I'm in The Park End and some were clapping but a few were booing, same in the main stand.

I wished he'd have sparked the prick out before we had to endure his usual post match bullshit routine.

I've not renewing until after next week unfolds. If he's still in charge - I'm thinking of not renewing my membership for next season. I can't take anymore.

I utterly despise him now.

Ray Robinson
31 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:48:38
Robert #25. There were a fair few in the Park End clapping the fan but not too many. There again, there was probably an overwhelming majority who, like me, agreed with the fan's sentiments but couldn't condone a pitch incursion.
Robert Elliott
32 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:53:30
Ray, I'd agree completely. Not really what we want to see at Goodison and I must admit I sat in silence whilst understanding completely why frustrations are starting to boil over.

To me it sounded like much of the ground did the same which is why I was surprised to read that report on Sky Sports.

Trevor Peers
33 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:55:43
There will be no hiding place or excuses, Roberto, if you lose the next two games! Especially if we take the lead first.

Let's see what your really made of then, I'll be amazed if we win either game.

Graham Mockford
34 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:56:36
Ray #31

Agreed from where I was sat in the Park End a few clapped him but he got more boos than anything. At the end of the day whether you agree with his sentiments or not he's still a prize knob head.

And one who's probably not going to see too many games for a while.

Paul Thompson
35 Posted 16/04/2016 at 20:57:31
Whatever else today was, it wasn't a 'fight' of any kind let alone an incredible one. Setting aside the individual performances (and Graham #26, sums those up accurately), the team lacked intensity and purpose (at least until the two lads came on).
Dave Ganley
36 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:01:38
Yawn...stretch...oh sorry Roberto have you finished? Jolly good, then I'll begin. I would love to spend an hour in your head during a game to see exactly what you see, cos lets face it, you don't even remotely see a game the way the rest of us see it. "Incredible fight" I really don't know where to start with that one. That was possibly the most toothless diaplay ive seen for......well, I'll have to come back to that as I cant actually remember off the top of my head a performance so lacking in any kind 8f passion amd desire for quite some considerable time.....and thats saying something considering some of the dross thats been paraded for the last 2 years.

"A real understanding of the responsibility to win games at Everton and I think we have done that away from home" hmm could have sworn we have only won one more away than at home.....reading that you would expect our away record to be exemplary, not just one more win than a new low win ratio at home.

"We found a way to compete against Southampton" blimey missed that bit. Why didnt someone tell me we competed. Darn it, bet I missed that bit when I fell asleep only to be rudely awoken when that bloody Goodison exercise shite bing bong woke me and everyone around me. However we certainly did compete, well I may add, for the total dick award (pitch invader) and also man masquerading as a footballer award for sheer cheek by trying something so blatantly beyind his capabilities (Kones ridiculous overhead kick attempt) to be fair that made the 1st half actually bearable.

"We looked a little disjointed and rusty" there are old Raleigh choppers lying in aged skips with less rust in it than our side today.

Even at this stage of the season players are unfit and incapable of performing at the highest level. Coleman should never be pulling a hamstring 50 minutes in if hes fit. That's a sign of not warming up or tired tissue due to being unfit. Alas Oviedo given the runaround all game. Ross when he came looked more like a chunky rugby union back row forward than a young lithe athletic midfielder. A 60 a day smoker has more puff in his lungs than Del boy and a blind man has more chance of finding a pass than Kone. To be honest I am struggling to find any positive....anybody want to help me out feel free. Maybe Funes Mori actually having a shot and his sliding tackle saving a point being the only ones.

So yes I would like to jump inside Martinezs head for an hour just to see what he sees cos its sure as fuck isn't anything like what I witness at the game. Each and every performance is getting more woeful with every game. There is no point keeping him till after the cup game. Damage may already be done. We have had some shit teams in the past but by god at least most of those teams showed a little bit more effort than that shambles today. If I was a Southampton fan I would be feeling well and truely mugged off only coming away with a point.

Ha ha ha ha ha and we have the RS....away....next......cant wait to hear the superlatives that comes out if his stupid fucking idiotic mouth when we get fucked over at the khazi again. We will be in a moment that will reap rich rewards in the new season of 2020 and this terribly unlucky 5 0 close game in which we competed well in our own 18 yard area of which we had overall possesion stats in which the goalie kicked incredibly from the dead ball and the defenders were phenomenal in picking the ball out of the net, we will learn to bend our backs when picking up said ball and will come back stronger to make sure that we remove the doormat from our chests next time we play at this quite astounding ground. COCKWOMBLE!!

Ray Robinson
37 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:04:26
Graham #34. Agreed but at least he had the courage of his convictions whereas I pussyfoot about not renewing (but will of course – and before the early bird discount date at that!).

I wish I could withhold my support until Martinez has gone without affecting the team, jeopardising my seat and costing me money!

Joe Foster
38 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:05:45
It's literally the best thing about our games now is his after match thoughts.
Geoff Williams
39 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:08:46
I thought the boos were directed at the stewards.
Rob Halligan
40 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:09:16
The only fight of note was the fan on the pitch. Did he throw a punch at the steward who tried to grab hold of him?
Daniel Joseph
41 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:11:38
I am convinced that he has now lost all credibility within the club, from players to fans and the board and the time will come after the semi or the final that we depart company.

But what happens in the meantime? How does he motivate the team?

Clearly the motivation is lost, yet I'm reminded of Howard's "window speech" in Oxford.

That also annoys me about the players – why aren't they doing it for us? As this team, the best we have potentially had in years, is likely to be split up after this campaign, why doesn't one of them just say "Bollox-screw Martinez, we are good enough so lets do it our way"

Andrew Wayne
42 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:12:07
Lewis Caroll has given his view of the performance today:

Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

Makes as much sense as Bobby.

Andrew Keatley
43 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:16:15
Performances and results have been regularly disappointing for the majority of this seasons, and absolutely woeful since the Chelsea cup game. Perhaps the players didn't react to the post-game interview that Kenwright and Moshiri gave to the TV cameras. "What a manager!" might not have been music to their ears.
Damian Wilde
44 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:18:44
Jay Harris, I honestly thought you were typing a Martinez piss take paragrsph, he actually said that? I fuckin' give up. He filks me with sorrow. Bastard.
Terence Tyler
46 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:20:17
Yes he did Rob. Several posters commenting on Barkley's size, I too thought he looked overweight.
Colin Glassar
47 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:29:22
I wonder what Tony Bellew was saying to BK during the game? I bet it wasn't "What a manager!!".
Paddy Hamilton
48 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:29:59
Someone please help me understand why Barkley gets away with avoiding tackling and not tracking runners. It's embarrassing to watch. As much as I wasn't the biggest Moyes fan at least he wouldn't have stood for that from any player. Martinez has to take the blame for allowing that.
Rick Tarleton
49 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:34:24
Neutrals always like teams who provide goals and our defence provides plenty.
Scott Hall
50 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:44:12
Roberto, just so you know... Our away form hasn't been that good. Mostly draws and some of those have been snatched from the jaws of victory.
Steve Davies
51 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:00:01
Rob (25). well he walked out of the Lower Gwladys and I didn't hear him getting booed particularly. I felt a bit sorry for the steward when the guy belted him. If Tony Bellow swings a punch like that at Goodison he may still land the world title.

I expected a protest against RM but that was a bit much. There was a guy behind me who held up a Martinez out sheet of A4 after the game. A few people started clapping him. I thought a plane may have been hired today.

I am resigned now to the fact that Martinez is here to the end of the season.

Brian Porter
52 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:05:26
When are Kenwright and the board going to wake up to the fact they are continually being seen to be supporting a delusional fool who will go down in history as one of the worst managers our club has ever employed. His whole philosophy has failed, his inept in game management has dragged us down into the bottom half of the table.

Fans are deserting us in droves, the players seem to have lost interest, and no one believes a word he says any longer (when they can understand him). Please save our club, get rid of this clown before it's too late.

Danny Broderick
53 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:13:46
Please sign this, if only to keep it in the Press. Martinez out petition. I gave him the benefit of the doubt for long enough, but he hasn't got a clue.

https://www.change.org/p/Everton-Martinez-out

Stewart Lowe
54 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:15:41
I just don't get the absence of Niasse. He has been with us 2-3 months now and Martinez said its taking him time to get match fit????? Are you for fucking real???? This guy was not even injured when we bought him.

I'm nearly 43 and 2-3 months of intense running and training and even I would make the team. Something now right with that deal if you ask me.

Is he another cousin of George Weah by any chance? Ha ha...

Gerry Quinn
55 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:22:24
Danny,

I have been feckin saturated with "Change.org" feckin emails since last week – wish I had never signed the feckin thing – more annoying than Martinez interviews!

Stewart Lowe
56 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:25:59
It's obvious this team is playing to lose and you can bet that Barkley hitting the crossbar at Palace was a token gesture / shot so not to make it too obvious.

You can see it in all their body language they are not trying. Even all that ridiculous passing and keeping the ball was absent in the last 2-3 games and that has come from the players.

Paul Setter
57 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:31:27
Until 20 minutes ago I had no idea of result and as forgot we played. I stopped going 6 weeks ago along with 4 mates who travelled up by train from Exeter to most home games I have zero interest in going again until this imbecile is sacked.

Apart from listening to fans etc this clown has zapped any interest in results away from me. As for next week we are making up the numbers and I hope it's one step closer to seeing Billy's number 1 shown the door..
Richard Farrington
58 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:41:06
Gerry, I'm with you but its so worth it if it does the job.
Damian Wilde
59 Posted 16/04/2016 at 22:56:16
"There was a guy behind me who held up a Martinez out sheet of A4 after the game."

Fuck me, what a brave warrior. Was it in comic sans font sized 16? He'll be gone after that.

Ray Griffin
60 Posted 16/04/2016 at 23:17:44
Andrew Wayne (42)

Love it, Martinez's summary of the game about as relevant as Stevie Wonder's

Ray Griffin
61 Posted 16/04/2016 at 23:20:50
BTW, give Pelligrini the gig.
Kevin Rowlands
62 Posted 16/04/2016 at 23:22:36
If, as we all suspect it, goes tits up, this time next week Martinez will be gone, no doubt.

I'm going to throw a name in the hat that I haven't seen mentioned once anywhere who I think would be a perfect fit for our club. Top bloke, very good manager, good people person, NOT a bullshit artist, British, players who have played for him love him, not cringe worthy in press interviews, respect from his peers and plays the game the way we would want...

Mr Moshiri – please bring Sean Dyche aboard! [Dons tin hat.]

James Stewart
63 Posted 16/04/2016 at 23:54:51
What fight? The 2 young lads showed the rest of them up. More effort from those boys than the likes of Kone who was abysmal. Oveido was embarrassed by Tadic, where exactly was this 'fight'?
Andrew Wayne
64 Posted 16/04/2016 at 23:59:26
Week after week we get Jags, Cleverly, Ossie or some other misguided soul spouting off in the press about how we need unity or how we will turn this season around - rolled out no doubt by the Everton PR dept in a half-baked attempt to convince us that someone gives a toss. Ahead of the Derby and Wembley recognising Martinez's affinity for the Yoda-esque I thought this link was appropriate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSpx92Xoukk

Patrick Murphy
65 Posted 17/04/2016 at 00:01:35
According to the Liverpool Echo, 'Everton's home record now reads W4 D5 L8 and even if they defeat Bournemouth and Norwich City in their final two games at Goodison then they will have only won 13 league games here since the start of last season – as many as they won in the whole of Martinez's first term in charge.'

If that's not enough to see him be removed from his post, then he will be here for the full term of his contract.

Ray Smith
66 Posted 17/04/2016 at 00:35:24
Kevin 62#

Good shout.

However, he is a loyal person and will stick with Burnley, despite his back stabbing experience at Watford!!!

Sean McCarthy
67 Posted 17/04/2016 at 02:25:46
Martinez: "our away record is exactly what we wanted" so says Roberto. If he actually bothered to look at the numbers he might realise that the away form is far from where "we wanted" it to be!! In fact only 6 (that's SIX) have won LESS games away from home than Everton.

He keeps hanging his hat on our "superb" away record yet it's only one win more than our worst ever home record!!! Hardly the stuff of open top bus tours!!!

You have to admire his positive outlook on life but there comes a time when enough is enough. His utterings to the media are now beyond a joke matched only by some of his team selections. I hate to say it but our "friends" from across the park wouldn't put up with it so why should we??

Look how they got rid of Hodgson when it clearly wasn't working. And it didn't take them 2 seasons of utter mediocrity either. Same with Rodgers.

The pundits don't help us. They talk about the great style of football we play. This just shows that they haven't actually seen us play because if they had they would know that there is absolutely nothing great about watching endless passing going nowhere before another defensive lapse results in a goal for the opposition.

He might be a really nice guy but that's no reason to keep his job. I for one was dead against him getting the job in the first place as it just showed a complete lack of ambition by the club after Moyes (like him or loathe him) had steadied the ship and had us a regular top 6/7 finish. We should have pushed on and gone for the next level not some bullshit talk of "I'll get you champions league" when his record said he'd be doing well to get you a top 15 place!!!!

As for a replacement I just hope the club have learned a lesson and show the type of ambition that befits a club with Everton's stature and history. And sorry Kevin that isn't Sean Dyche. Surely we are bigger than that?? My choice was at goodison this afternoon and hopefully caught the eye of those in the position to do something about it. Ronald Koeman is exactly what we need.
John Atkins
69 Posted 17/04/2016 at 02:55:04
Didn't want to sign the petition as I thought we were better than that...

However, after today and his usual post match drivel, I've signed it!

He's doing my head in... Just go will yer!!!!

Oscar Huglin
70 Posted 17/04/2016 at 03:01:55
We've only gone and been linked with Mourinho tonight. Can dream.
Jay Harris
71 Posted 17/04/2016 at 05:40:38
Damien
Thats what he said word for word.

When we lose the derby and the semi he will still be saying we will try to make the supportes proud of us in the last 2 games.

Darren Hind
72 Posted 17/04/2016 at 06:22:24
Barry Jones @18

Blackburn wasnt a one off mate. It was a prolonged concerted, disgraceful, hate campaign. Those fans became a laughing stock... especially when they went down anyway, just as the Geordie's did when they thought it was a good idea to make complete twats of themselves. I don't recall ever seeing a protest against any manager which didnt have the rest of football sniggering.

The very nature of TW kinda guarantees a pretty accurate picture whenever a poll is conducted. The suggestion that our board is not aware of it, is frankly, for the birds. They know alright. They hear the boos at the match. They hear the silence even more clearly.

Mockers @26

I cant believe I'm saying this, but I agree 100% with EVERYTHING you said.
You check the weather forecast in Hell and I'll check the tower to see if the ravens are fucking off

Richard Lyons
73 Posted 17/04/2016 at 07:47:17
Andrew Wayne @42 - there are not many "laughs-out-loud" while Everton are in a very intense phenomenally depressing moment - but your post was one...
Brian Porter
76 Posted 17/04/2016 at 09:44:50
Latest poll on Metro News currently has 88% in favour of sacking Martinez. The corresponding article leans heavily on his constant inability to acknowledge his mistakes and his equal refusal to change a system the clearly isn't working as well as the relationship between him and the fans and players. I actually found it hard to believe that 12% still want this clown as our manager!
Kevin Rowlands
77 Posted 17/04/2016 at 10:57:35
You really would have thought someone close to him or one of the board members should have told him early doors to drop the words "incredible" and "phenomenal" it really hasn't helped his situation at all, 2 defeats this week and Ferguson will be interim manager this time next week.
Mark Andersson
78 Posted 17/04/2016 at 11:28:14
Brian, it's not the 12% who still want Martinez it's the 1% Chairman that's keeping him in the job.

There is a complete lack of respect for the fans by both men.

Graham Mockford
79 Posted 17/04/2016 at 11:33:09
Darren definitely a chill in the air.

I'm also with you that organised protests are counter productive especially whilst there is still stuff to play for.

Polls, petitions and banners will be ignored whilst we remain in the Cup. It's not Kenwright's style. If we do somehow win the Cup he will also be here at the start of next season.

However two defeats this week and it will probably be a different story but I still would not bet money on it. Kenwright definitely has a stubborn streak.

Craig Taylor
80 Posted 17/04/2016 at 11:38:54
Talking about the contrasting home/away form he said, "But we have a really good opportunity to take advantage of where we are."

Anyone able to decipher this load of bollocks?

Dave Lynch
81 Posted 17/04/2016 at 11:44:33
If we get a good and proper mullering on Wednesday I would sack him on the final whistle.

That may sound rediculous but what have we got to lose if it happens?

I would rather see Unsy and Dunc in charge and at least go down kicking and screaming like a petulant child than roll over like an obedient dog.

Someone clearly needs to fire this team up and give them some self belief as well as a backbone, that is not happening under this manager and we seem to play in a malaise with no purpose or fight.

Dave Lynch
82 Posted 17/04/2016 at 11:46:14
Yes Craig.

It means we will not get relegated.

John Graham
83 Posted 17/04/2016 at 12:01:07
Who put the squad of players together? Who picks the team? Who decides on the tactics? Who talks a load of bull? Who should take the blame? Who needs to go now?

MARTINEZ...........

Not looking forward to Wednesday.

Let's hope Moshiri doesn't have too much more patience.

Xavier Spencer
84 Posted 17/04/2016 at 14:18:31
Bad news chaps. Straight from the horses' mouths by the looks if it. Bobby's here next season.

https://twitter.com/MagooMr12?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Paul Tran
85 Posted 17/04/2016 at 14:25:24
I remember when our form slightly picked up towards the end of last season, people were queueing up to get on here to say that it was all down to the players who decided they were going to play 'The Everton Way', whatever that meant.

If that was the case, what's stopping the poor overpaid cherubs doing it now?

They play for us and the shirt, as well as the manager, don't they?

Andy Crooks
87 Posted 17/04/2016 at 17:49:42
Darren, you are right about what went on at Blackburn. I have a pal who wasted half his season ticket because he did not want to be part of the sheer hatred that went on there.

Now, I will hold my hands up to posting some pretty moronic rants on here and I want Martinez gone, without a doubt. However, my wife, long suffering and at the end of her tether, suggested that perhaps Martinez ("or whatever his name is", as she calls him) might know more than me. But surely he can't know more than all of us, can he?

Al Reddish
89 Posted 17/04/2016 at 19:12:58
Just been reading that Bill has no intention of getting rid of Martinez and is in fact looking forward to seeing what he can do next year with more money. Good old Bill, resurrected and well enough to spend someone else's hard earned cash while he and his mate Elstone take their place on the board after putting nothing in and receiving millions in sold shares.

It's this kind of lethargy that has been our downfall, the chairman, manager and now the players happy to turn out, put no energy into anything they do and go home to their mansions in their Jaguars and Mercedes.

Shane Corcoran
90 Posted 17/04/2016 at 19:22:25
Can anyone give me a detailed analysis of what exactly the fan that came on the field did?
Kunal Desai
92 Posted 17/04/2016 at 19:36:25
The fan tweeted that BK told him that Martinez will get next season as there is now investment to come.

Why would a chairman divulge the Everton managerial position to a random fan? I take it with a pinch of salt.

Colin Glassar
94 Posted 17/04/2016 at 19:42:42
This has FAKE written all over it, Kunai.
Rob Halligan
95 Posted 17/04/2016 at 19:50:31
Can't believe people actually think this is true. I do know a member of the backroom staff at Everton, and I could put all kinds of silly stuff on here, claiming he told me.

However I'm sure most employees of the club are sworn to secrecy not to divulge any information. Just as if Kenwright or Moshiri are going to tell a complete stranger about Martinez. Get a grip, will you!!

Jimmi James
96 Posted 17/04/2016 at 20:36:03
While I don't believe this crap about tweets (as if) I do believe BK is going to give Martinez another season basically writing this term off as pure bad luck, as far as I heard from someone on here BK said managers job is safe. true or not I don't know, scary prospect though.
Mark Burton
97 Posted 17/04/2016 at 22:35:23
Would it not be phenomenal if he just left and we played 4-4-2 and won some games?
Ron Marr
98 Posted 17/04/2016 at 23:14:57
The Leicester owner returned to London by helicopter, which landed on the field after the game, Funes Mori takes the 6:30 pm Lime Street to Euston? My guess he travels by Limo.
David Barks
99 Posted 17/04/2016 at 23:19:00
We have an abundance of central midfielders. Wouldn't it be amazing to see us get a manager who said fuck the whole one striker bullshit thing and put 2 up top like Leicester City, use our central midfielders to control the center, and actually offer a fucking attacking threat as opposed to an isolated lone striker? I'm honestly so happy for the Leicester City supporters because I feel like I'm living vicariously through their success. I hope.
Ian Riley
100 Posted 18/04/2016 at 00:12:03
Why would we sack Martinez? He has met Mr kenwright's expectations. Premiership survival and good cup runs. Fans buy season tickets believing next season will be the one. It just might be with Reberto in charge.

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