Everton vs Manchester United

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FA Cup Semi-Final Preview

With the pressure on, Roberto Martinez has some selection headaches for the biggest games of the season

It should be the peak of the season so far — thousands of Blues descending on Wembley, a place where the Twin Towers were once like a second home in the 1980s but more recently the new arch has cast a shadow on Everton on two of their previous three visits. Real hope of an FA Cup Final and a chance to erase the misery of 2009 and 2012 by ending a 21-year trophy drought should be lifting those Blue hearts as they journey down; instead they will do so with very mixed emotions.

Evertonians will travel in hope, but it will be almost forlorn hope that, first and foremost, whatever team Roberto Martinez can patch together can unite, dig deep and produce a performance worthy of the badge. Wednesday's disgrace at Anfield may never be forgiven nor forgotten but with no activity from the board with regard to the manager's position in the ensuing 36 hours, the recriminations and angst will have to be set aside, for 90 minutes at least, in an effort to will the Blues over the line.

For Martinez, the outcome will likely dictate whether it's his last match in charge or whether he is able to cling to his job for the foreseeable future. This semi-final has been central to his rhetoric while his team's awful form since the quarter-final win over Chelsea in the Premier League has dragged on and it's now do or die for the Catalan.

Unfortunately, his preparations for what is the biggest game of his career since he steered Wigan to FA Cup glory three years ago could not have been worse. Beginning the week with his captain and first choice right back rated as highly doubtful to figure tomorrow with hamstring injuries, he lost his most influential midfield player in Gareth Barry to injury in midweek, saw one centre half pick up a suspension and the other come off because of illness, all against the backdrop of the worst ever performance by an Everton team in the Merseyside derby.

It means that Everton could be down to the bare bones at the back. Stones should recover from his bout of gastro-intestinal distress in time to play. Jagielka meanwhile has, apparently, been doing light training in the last day or so but it remains to be seen if he will be pitched in half fit in desperation at the lack of options. Assuming he doesn't make it, Muhamed Besic could drop into the role emergency central-defensive role Barry would surely have filled had he not picked up a groin injury. Or, if reports of his recall are correct, Matthew Pennington could get the nod.

That still leaves a hole at right back where you would assume Bryan Oviedo will never be required to play again after his personal nightmare against Liverpool. Pennington or Callum Connolly could step into that role, as could Aaron Lennon or James McCarthy.

In central midfield, it's a case of perming two or three from Besic, Tom Cleverley, Darron Gibson and Leon Osman and the choice of wingers surely depends on how much Martinez wants to balance containment with offensive threat in the first half. Lennon for his graft and Kevin Mirallas for his early forays at Anfield could be selected for the sake of continuity, with Gerard Deulofeu left in reserve to see how things are later in the game.

Much improved United, who since exiting the Europa League so meekly to Liverpool, have won five of their last six in all competitions, could not be approaching this tie more differently. Louis van Gaal remains unpopular among many Red Devils fans who still don't see him as the man to lead them back to the title but his side have found the kind of consistency and rhythm in recent weeks to eke out results that Everton would kill for.

The meeting between the two sides at the beginning of the month, settled by Anthony Martial's second-half strike, was a case in point. Everton were toothless and lifeless and United just needed the one goal to take the points. Whether it's that tight on this occasion remains to be seen but in Martial, Marcus Rashford and the fit-again Wayne Rooney, Van Gaal certainly has attacking weapons at his disposal to exploit Martinez's weakened back line.

All eyes will be looking to see what kind of response Martinez can elicit from his charges after Wednesday's travesty but Blues fans will hope that on this occasion the players will be playing for themselves and the fans; that they can be the ones to end this quest for silverware and salvage something from the season.

Evertonians shouldn't have to balance their hopes of getting through the semi-final to earn a crack at ending a desperate longing for a trophy with the fear that the club will be stuck with a manager whose tenure has become a demonstrable failure, but plenty will wrestle with that paradox when the whistle blows.

Anything can happen in football, though, and while that shot at a trophy exists, Blues fans will have to separate the two issues and let the chips fall regarding Martinez's future where they may. One thing at a time. Pride please, Everton.

Kick-off: 5.15pm
Referee: Anthony Taylor

Full details: ToffeeWeb match page


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Paul Mackie
1 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:11:10
It's pretty much a win-win situation for us after Wednesday's capitulation. Victory means a cup final. Defeat makes Martinez's position untenable.
Peter Barry
2 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:22:48
Martinez, Billy Liar and the Board will never be forgiven if we get humiliated in front of the world at Wembley.
Dave Abrahams
3 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:26:48
The players, no matter what team is able to play, have got to play for the fans tomorrow, we will give them all the support they need and more. If they can produce the performance they are capable of we can win this game and keep our hopes up for an FA cup victory.

The future can then be sorted for next season, I like I imagine, a lot of fans will see who is manager for next season before buying my season ticket, I hope that is decided before the early buy date.

Good luck to all the players tomorrow.

Jim Bennings
4 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:28:47
Possibly or very the final act for Roberto Martinez.

The flaws and weaknesses smarter the floor like landmines now and we have seen the real Martinez laid bare this season after the striptease started last season.

This is now where we are at.

One game left to save our season, one game left to save his arse.

The defining week from hell began with the predictable opening of the gates on Wednesday night...

Tomorrow is our date with the real Red Devils and could be the final time this team and manager is thrown into the fire and never seen again.

Unless....

Brian Harrison
5 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:32:35
RM has confirmed that Coleman is definitely out of the semi final he thinks Stones will be OK and Barry will be assessed on the day of the game. He made a strange comment when asked if Jagielka would be fit he said "I don't accept that Phil will be fit, but we are treating his feelings rather than his injury".
He said that the group has an incredible togetherness, and he has been working for the last 10 months to win silverware.
He was asked to comment on the speculation over his position and he said it would be unprofessional to discuss that and he was focused on Wembley.
Mark Andersson
6 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:32:54
Have to agree with you Paul. It would be ironic if Rooney gets the winner.

I just can't see us winning. Man U will want it more, the media don't want to see two crap teams in the final. However, I hope the fans have a good day out.

Simon Jones
7 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:33:37
I fear another serious twatting
Jack Mason
8 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:39:38
The paradox has been solved, you know it, I know it and the vast majority of posters on here know it. Everton Football Club are simply bigger than Bill Kenright's ego and Roberto Martinez's so called philosophy. The sooner both of them leave the club the better.

As for Saturday, Evertonians whether there or in person will be cheering the team on, just like we always do. But nobody is under the illusion anymore, that the status quo, as it is can go on.

How a club with our stature can tolerate Wednesday' nights debacle, without even a cursory inquest, will go down as one of the blackest days in our history. It's the supporters alone who have been left red faced and humiliated. And for that, Kenwright and Martinez should never should never be forgiven.

Christy Ring
9 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:42:10
Listening to his press conference, he said ' We put in strong work for 10 months '. Total bullshit. I'm still seething that he's still here to pick a team for tomorrow. I blame Kenwright (what a manager), another bullshitter, who should be gone with him.
Regarding team selection, he has to play Connelly right back, and Pennington centre back, if Jagielka and Galloway don't make it. He cannot pick Oviedo, but then again it is Martinez , if he does Martial will destroy him.
Brian Porter
10 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:49:42
"Working for the last ten months to win silverware." All that prat is bothered about is the FA Cup. He doesn't give a toss about the league. Look what he said the other day about it not mattering if we finish 11th rather than 7th if it doesn't get us into Europe. In other words the fans can sod off. Why would we want our team to finish in the top half? How stupid of us.

He's a joke, an amateur playing at being a Premier League manager. I will of course be looking for our result tomorrow but after the debacle on Wednesday I've vowed not to watch my beloved Everton again as long as he is the manager. After 57 years it shouldn't be like thus, but I can't work up any excitement or enthusiasm for the semi with this joker running the pack. And what's all this crap about 'treating Jagielka's feelings?'

Jags is probably also totally demoralised like the rest of the team. God help us!

Martinez out!

John Pickles
11 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:49:56
I'm going into this with the enthusiasm of someone who Is about to play Russian Roulette with 5 of the 6 chambers loaded.
Mike Moore
12 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:51:13
I hate what Martinez is doing to our great club. Wednesday was a new low point. However, we have to move on together. We knew in our heart of hearts BK would drag his feet after Wednesday sit on his hands do nothing.

So on that score all we can do tomorrow is put the recriminations to one side get behind RM and the team, sing our hearts out and hope that the team before anything else puts some pride back in being a blue! Come on you blues!

Denis Richardson
13 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:51:30
Finally managed to get some tickets for this and despite Martinez I'm looking forward to the game, never been to Wembley before.

If we win....great.

If we lose.....not too bad as that's Martinez gone.

Win win - hopefully it's a nice day and players who start put in a shift for the fans. Afterall, no player knows if they'll get to another semi.

Looking forward to this a lot more than the game last Weds.

Steavey Buckley
14 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:51:56
Everton must experiment in tomorrow's semi final because most players are out of form and lacking confidence. If Everton fill their half with players, close the opposition down at the slightest opportunity, go with pace up front and hit Manchester United on the break there could be a slim chance of victory.

Passing the ball around endlessly only puts pressure on Everton defenders when there is a miss hit pass, that allows the opposition to hit Everton on the break. Darren Gibson should play because he can make long accurate passers that are needed to hit united on the break

David Hallwood
15 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:54:21
Simon(#7) I don't fear a serious twatting because van gall does just enough to win through. Therefore if they go 1 up they'll just sit back possibly nick another on the break.

What I do fear is yet another lifeless toothless directionless performance that we've seen sim the past 6 weeks.

Instead of looking forward to a semi final with the lads and a few beers I'll be staying at home and watching from behind the couch

Eddie Dunn
16 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:57:02
Christy, I would go further and play Tom Davies, he looked class in his cameo against Southampton, so throw him in, along with Connelly. As for poor Brian Oviedo, he has shown us all that he is no right back, and not even a left back. His only hope is a left midfield/winger slot in future.
Let's just hope that we get Lennon starting on the right and Ross pushes up to help Lukaku. Rom has been wandering aimlessly for a month now, alone with little service. Perhaps the "shop window" of the Semi will encourage him to put in a shift.
Perhaps he is pissed off with his manager's selections, as his supply line has been non-existent in recent weeks.
There has never been a time when the manager and players have owed the fans a performance more than tomorrow.
Come on Everton, give us something to cheer.
Daniel Joseph
17 Posted 22/04/2016 at 09:57:36
Any chance of any positive posts going into a semi final? Sod the Martinez chat - leave that to the other threads.
COYB!
Davie Turner
18 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:02:41
Well it is Everton, probably win 3-0 and look like world beaters
James Marshall
19 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:03:35
My fear is still going to be us at the back, regardless of LVG's reputation for his teams just doing enough.

I would love to lay into the manager for taking away my passion for the game this season as well, but as Daniel@17 says, we should try to keep this thread about the semi final, otherwise every single thread on TW is about Martinez.

So, I do fear we'll lose but not purely because of the manager - partly, yes, but also due to injuries. Oviedo should be nowhere near the Everton first team - I know he's well liked by many but he's really not a great footballer. Awfully one-footed and a terrible defender. Occasional left-winger at best.

Who knows, it could be like the Alamo tomorrow, and we could nick it - football is funny like that.

As the first post on here mentions though, it's a win/win for us. Win and we're in the final, lose and well, maybe the manager goes.

My personal hope is that we win the game AND the manager goes!

Denis Richardson
20 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:05:47
Is there a replay or do we have extra time and pens?

(Hows that for being optimistic!)

Bob Cumiskey
21 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:06:49
There is no win-win situation tomorrow for me as I believe Martinez will be tipped out anyway regardless of what happens, but not until the season ends.

The fans need a real performance and deserve to be travelling home with a smile on their faces. We have stuck by this team and travelled home and away all season giving them our great support.

We are still hurting from Wednesday and it's up to the 11 players who step on the turf tomorrow to provide us with the tonic to erase the hurt. I'll be singing my heart out tomorrow as I know most of you will be too, just hope it is met by the chosen 11 giving us the performance we deserve.

Come on blue boys, no more hurt tomorrow, make us feel proud to be a blue again.

COYB!!!

Tony McNulty
22 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:07:04
Daniel,

Two positives:

(1) Roberto is so confused about our tactics, team and his plans that neither the opposition nor our team have any idea what he's doing. Therefore the opposition cannot plan against it. This total confusion and lack of rationality could just work in our favour.

(2) The Manure are expected to win easily. Since neither they nor their manager will get any credit for the victory, complacency or nervousness could descend.

Jack Mason
23 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:11:13
Ok I'm going with Davie, 3-0 to the Toffees. And race you all back to Lyndon's house for tea and cake.
Kim Vivian
24 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:12:05
Haven't read any of these comments yet so apologies if repeating anything, but I do think we would have a better chance of winning this if he had gone. The Di Matteo effect.
Jay Woods
25 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:12:51
Never mind 90 minutes away from the Cup Final, we're 90 light years away from it. Really, United only have to turn up and play to a minimum competent level to beat us. We're so bad, LVG should rest his entire first team squad for the final, and just let the under 12 girls team put us out of our misery.
James Marshall
26 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:13:51
In defence of Martinez' comments on trusting Jagielka's feelings - remember he's Spanish and what he actually means is, they're going to trust how Jagielka 'feels' rather than just looking directly at the physical injury. I take that to mean that if Jags says he's fit to play, he plays.

It's a very common mistake for non-native English speakers to use the 'ing' where it's not required.

Jack Mason
27 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:16:47
Jeez Kim there's only 25 comments mate. By 9 in the morning I've already read over a hundred, need a coffee like but still.
Iain Latchford
28 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:28:39
Take some solace in this....Imagine it was Liverpool we were playing Liverpool in the semi final....
Alan J Thompson
29 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:34:20
Is this the game to gamble or is it the game in which we have no option?
If Stones is available then he has to start and I would consider playing Gibson alongside of him, assuming Jagielka, Galloway & Funes Mori are unavailable. In the second half against Southampton, before being subbed, Gibson seemed to be dropping back into defence (did he have an option?) and he was directing where players should move. If Stones is not fit then Gibson may well help Pennington or whichever youngster has to start. Callum Connolly seems a moral for right back as there does not appear to be anyone else, Baines left back.
If Barry is not available then the midfield looks like McCarthy, Besic,Barkley and Lennon or Cleverly with Lukaku up front with Mirallas or Deulofeu or Lennon.
Subs bench? Well who's left? 2 of the front 3 possibles, Howard, is there a defender, Osman & Oveido & yeah well.
Have I missed something or are we just in a mess?
Jim Wilson
30 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:52:46
My advice, Roberto... because you need some – and you need to listen:

Do not play anyone who is not fully fit.
Play everyone in their best positions.
Fuck the open game off and play it tight.

Whatever club you are at next season, keep a settled team. You can't make changes for every game and expect them to perform. It's elementary. You rested players and look what happened. Players got injured.

Joe O'Brien
31 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:56:56
If he plays Oviedo at Rb we will lose. He's a good player but at left back not right. Connolly has to start there. I'm hoping for jags to be fit, if not Pennington should get the nod. I still think we've got a chance of winning and I think we will.
Christy Ring
32 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:58:56
Eddie 16#, Agree with you completely, Tom Davies was a breath of fresh air against Southampton, would play him alongside McCarthy, you'd be guaranteed 100% effort.
Iain Latchford
33 Posted 22/04/2016 at 10:59:04
The best form of defence is attack. As our back four is so decimated, we need to spend as much time as we can forcing them into their half. They're not regarded as a great counter attacking side, so if we can keep the as far away from our goal as possible it might (might!) work. The last thing we want is a repeat of Weds when we couldn't get out of our own half.

There's no excuse for not chasing every ball. Oh, and when we have possession bloody keep the ball, not pass it to the nearest red shirt like Weds. Can't blame RM for players not doing things my 8 year old son can do!

Joe Clitherow
34 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:00:50
I will wake up tomorrow and head down to Wembley with my young lad who is desperate to go for his first visit. I'll be right up for it tomorrow but I will have to prepare him for a disaster ahead of the game.

However, as for today....

I think it is a huge, huge mistake going with this manager for the game tomorrow (though I hope I am 100% wrong). It is clear the players don't want to play for him and that will detract. People will say that professional players should motivate themselves and yeah, they should. But they should be able to do that for a derby, and they didn't.

Martinez will bring an air of defeat whereas I think just the presence of Unsworth, and Royle for a last hurrah, would have generated a feeling of fight in the dressing room.

Anyway, COYB, and anyone posting on the eve of a SF that they want us to lose to get rid of Martinez should be immediately banned, as per military discipline getting rid of people bad for morale on the eve of a battle!!

Kim Vivian
35 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:01:48
Jack, Mate - I'm rammed at work. Been up since 6.00 and on the site hoping to read the news we want to hear. Read my 100 before leaving but this piece wasn't posted when I left home and just got in to the office and wrote what I'd been thinking on the road. (Abridged vsn!).

Expect to have more time later tho'. Sure I'll have something to say.

Do think we might nick it tho' tomorrow - in spite of RM, not because of him. Though BK and RM will spin it differently.

Chris Regan
36 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:03:56
For me I just can't see how the players can A) motivate themselves and B) have the mental resilience under pressure.

Lyndon hit the nail on the head with the line 'forlorn hope', but to be honest I won't even watch this match.

Christopher Timmins
37 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:06:39
Time to stand up and be counted tomorrow, there has to be a positive reaction after Wednesday night and the players have to put some pride back into the shirt! Rom to send us into the Cup final against all the odds!

Dave Brierley
38 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:12:46
We'll win this. Keep the faith.
Colin Malone
39 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:13:29
Deulofeu in the Number 10 role, more direct until a new manager comes in and gets the best out of our Ross.
Jim Bennings
40 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:15:15
Manchester United under Van Gaal may well not be very attack minded but we are so disorganized defensively under Martinez that it could easily end up be a 0-3 defeat, let's not forget they won at Goodison by that score in October.

I fail to see how the players are going to respond from Wednesday night's debacle, a defeat that shuddered the foundations of an already falling fragile framework.

If it is true that the players have lost respect for Martinez, and it looks true at the minute, then what is the overall response to any team talk from the manager going to be like?.

I suggest these players man up and take responsibility for their own actions tomorrow evening and realise this could be the last chance for many of them to collect silverware and win a medal.

If they can't at least amongst themselves rise to the occasion and put in a bit of passion heart and desire tomorrow then to be honest, I don't want to see many of them at the club next season along with Martinez.

Personal pride tomorrow is at stake not just the massive dangling carrot of an F.A Cup Final and possible trophy.

Phil Jeffries
41 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:28:30
There are quite a few innovative ideas on here on how to beat Man Utd. But that would mean Martinez adapting his style and maybe even his formation. So no chance of it happening.
Steve Davies
42 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:31:34
Apparently there has been a big talk between them all at Finch Farm after the derby. To be honest most of the season all I have heard is talk and very little action on the field of play.

BK may have said to RM, "You haven't got a chance of being in this job next season lad, but if you win me the cup, I can have my last hurrah in front of the cameras and you can add this to your CV, and perhaps set yourself set up for your next post"

RM may have told the players " Let us play 4.4.2, go for it, forget the tip, tap stuff, put some defenders on the posts at corners, and pressure them. Just win the game lads as I don't care about possession. Stones, Lukaku, stop thinking about yourself and think about the 30k Evertonians at Wembley and the 10K who followed you across Europe. Show some backbone lads."

Do you think these conversations happened? Neither do I.....that would take a degree of honesty wouldn't it?

Lenny Kingman
43 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:33:40
If the manager can get a rag tag and bobtail outfit like Wigan Athletic to win the FA Cup and beat Manchester City in the Final then anything is possible.

The spirit of Burnden Park in 66 and Wembley 09 can descend once more on the blue shirts tomorrow and make it a hat trick of Manchester United semi final roll overs. Hope springs eternal.

Ian Burns
44 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:34:29
Martinez should NOT be in charge for tomorrow - but he is, so we have to pray the guys turn up and give it their best shot. Despite all of the fears over players' availability, whichever 11 goes out onto that pitch, they owe our great supporters a performance. My only real fear in the United side is Martial and Rashford - the rest don't put any fear into me at all.

Lyndon, I take up a point in your article in that Wednesday's performance was not only the worst in a Merseyside derby, for me it was the worst I can remember watching the blues since the 1959 season because of the opposition and the complete embarrassment having to watch almost 40 shots on our goal to 3 off target at the other end.

My other fear for tomorrow is the old adage that you simply cannot just turn form on.

Darren Hind
45 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:34:36
I don't blame Brian Oviedo in the slightest for his performance at Anfield. In fact I posted before the match that he was so far off his A game he should not even be considered . . soft Bollocks not only considered him, he played him out of position.

Man United will start with two kids up top and we should be prepared to play ours. Connolly has to play in his natural position, this square pegs in round holes lark seldom works.

Look, its only a few short weeks ago when we produced a performance against Chelsea. There is a performance in this group of players and we the fans have to try to get it out of them.

I'm over Wednesday. I'd drive myself crazy if I dwell on it any longer. I'll be down there early tomorrow and I'm desperately hoping for a win.

Tomorrow is another day

Phil Sammon
46 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:38:29
Tomorrow is indeed another day, Darren. Unfortunately, there may be 365 more of them if we bag a result tomorrow.
Ste Byn
47 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:47:08
Well at least tomorrow for me will be one good piss up on the way down and around Wembley.

On the team, maybe I'm cracking up, but I would play Lennon at RB, CB's a mix of what available Stones, Jags, Mori, Pend, Gibson (if needed), LB Baines, McCarty, Besic or Barry with McCarty if fit. Ahead of them I would just throw pace at them with Del and Oviado (right and left) Mirallas number 10 with Lukaku in his normal role of tree trunk.

It might not work, but what has lately.

WERE ON THE MARCH WITH MOSHIRIS ARMY......

Rob Halligan
48 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:48:36
Back four for me, assuming jags doesn't make it, should be Baines, Stones, Pennington and Lennon.

Lennon will get back and defend, so no need for Deulofeu to track back (which he doesn't do anyway).

I'm guessing Barry will be fit, so Mirallas on the left, Barry, McCarthy, Deulofeu. Ross playing just behind Lukaku.

If Barry doesn't make it then play Gibson, and make him captain.

Oh, and Robles in goal, of course.

Martin Nicholls
49 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:03:10
Forget this win,win nonsense. There's only one win I'm interested in tomorrow and that's one for OUR Mighty Blues over the mancs.
Brian Wilkinson
50 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:05:30
It's obvious players have given up on Bobby, some already thinking about Champions League football.

Tomorrow is one match away from picking up a medal; rest assured those players will put a shift in, put it on their CV, then their agents will be bigging them up.

Naff all to play for in the Premier League but I have no doubt, whatever the result, you will see a different Everton tomorrow.

Sandra Williams
51 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:12:20
There's no need to panic any more about the result tomorrow.....the asparagus has 'spoken'!! Just been watching This Morning on ITV when a cookery item focussing on asparagus had on 'Jemima', a fortune-teller who can see into the future with a pile of asparagus......am not making this up! Eammon Holmes wanted to know if Man U would win tomorrow.....Jemima, looking down at the pile of asparagus, emphatically said NO! Eammon is devastated!! You heard it here first! But can't believe a load of old asparagus will 'save' Martinez for another week at least!
But I will be up early in the morning, onto the M6, heading to Wembley....with perhaps an asparagus buttie in my coolbag!! COYB!!
James Baker
52 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:14:23
Look, if you need psychological help to get out of bed with some enthusiasm tomorrow before we all travel: whenever we have our hopes up, they are always dashed... when we expect nothing, Everton FC have a habit of surprising us.

You never know. I can't see it myself... but you never know!!!!!

Let's put all the mayhem to one side and enjoy the day... up to kick-off at least!!! COYB

Ian Hams
53 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:15:26
Besic to partner Stones in center defence put Lennon in at right back with Ferries infront of him. Mirrales earned his place just in the first 20 min mid week. As for centre mid go knows Cleverly and McCarthy I guess with the usual disinterested golden boys infront of them.

Can it get any worse????! Well this is Everton.

Andrew Ellams
55 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:24:28
I was crying out for him to put Lennon at right back behind Mirallas on Wednesday before they scored with Baines behind Oviedo on the left.
David Booth
56 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:27:52
What is this continuing myth about Lennon 'getting back to defend', or 'working his socks off'?

He does no more of that than anyone else and spent a lot of time on Wednesday at walking pace when he lost the ball or it went past him.

Stange that no-one mentioned the fantastic Jagielka-style block by Kevin Mirallas on the edge of the area in the first half. And he's twice the player Lennon is going forward too.

STOP this Wigan-esque thinking and give us a team that is designed to make the opposition defend - instead of vice-versa.

Lennon is no more a full back than I am and even with our current threadbare squad should not even be considered for the role.

Personally, I would more advocate Oviedo as wing back, giving Baines vital support and bringing him into the game to pose a threat down the left. It used to be a consistent avenue of attack for us. Now it just sees Leighton left in no-man's land, trying to do two jobs at once.

Attack is unquestionably the best form of defence tomorrow, particularly as we are unable to defend even when everybody is fit.

Has no one - and particularly Martinez - noticed that we are at our best when we play quick, direct, forward-passing, attacking football?

Think about the way we score a lot, if not most of our goals: on the rampage with Barkley, Mirallas, Lukaku, Deulofeu etc marauding forward going route one to goal.

Sadly, we will almost certainly try and shore things up tomorrow though, which will crash and burn spectacularly in front of millions of people on live TV. Completely the wrong strategy in my opinion.

To stand any chance of success, we have to do something completely different. Not shoehorn whoever's available into a template that has failed miserably for the last two seasons.

Sadly, being brave has long since been Martinez' trademark, even when he must know he has nothing to lose.

And he must surely not be thinking he can eke it out to penalties, as we look collectively knackered after 75/80 minutes.

We must go for broke and try to spring a surprise. Conceding goals seems to be a foregone conclusion tomorrow - so let's try and ensure we score one at least more than they do. After all, their defence (with the exception of De Gea), looked as vulnerable as ours at OT a few weeks ago.

As soon as we see the team sheet, we'll know the outcome.

Be brave Martinez. Apply that cliched Spanish 'motto' of yours.

Pick a team to win. Win back some respect.

See you there...

COYB!


David Booth
57 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:32:43
But whoever he picks, please God, NO KONE!
Barry Jones
58 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:33:19
For the sake of all of us....especially you guys travelling down, I hope we win. Martinez and his future can wait.
Christopher Dover
59 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:35:19
Sandra 51

Asparagus for manager!!

Ray Jacques
61 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:40:35
Paul, post 1.

Hadn't thought of it like that. I was dreading another humiliation tomorrow but will now try to look on the Brightside, whichever way it goes. Thank you

Terence Tyler
62 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:40:43
For me the only chance we have tomorrow is for the players to go out and play in their natural positions, even if it means playing a youngster. Playing square pegs in round holes has contributed to our downfall many times this season. Lets take as much confusion as possible out of the situation and tell the players to do what they have been coached to do since youngsters, and in the positions they are used to doing it in.
Tony Waring
63 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:42:58
Sandra (51) make sure it's Spanish asparagus not the Freshfield variety !
David Booth
64 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:50:11
Never spoken to or met you Phil, but thanks for introducing yourself so eloquently and displaying such camaraderie.

Tempting as it is to respond in kind by calling call you childish names, I will, again, just give my opinion: you, I and virtually every other Evertonian who goes tomorrow will instinctively have gut feeling about how the game will go as soon as the team is announced.

That is all I was saying.

Why you saw fit to personally insult me for that is beyond me?

Charles McCann
65 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:51:37
The team I'd like to see tomorrow would be
Robles

Lennon stones besic baines

Deulofeu McCarthy Gibson Mirallas

Barkley

Lukaku

No playing players who are not 100 % fit. Don't go all out attacking but break quickly when the time is right. Coleman is a big miss but still have belief we can get to final. coyb

Zoid Clark
66 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:51:56
If Coleman and Jags are fit - hopefully:

Robles
Coleman Stones Jagielka Baines
Lennon Barry Oviedo
Deulofeu
Lukaku Barkley

If not, Connolly at right back.

Charles McCann
67 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:54:14
Zoid 66. Coleman definitely out. Don't think jags or Barry will make it either due to injuries
Ray Robinson
68 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:56:20
Just because he tracks back quite effectively, why on earth would anyone play Lennon at full back? Might as well play Deulofeu on the other wing then and then he wouldn't have to run as far. Strewth! For all the obvious failings of the current manager, thank God some of us don't manage Everton.
Tony J Williams
69 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:56:49
Having read some of the posts on here, I'm sure some of the posters have been sleeping through our season.

Getting into the oppos faces, chasing down every ball?????

Have you seen how unfit this team is?

They are usually pulling for tugs after the 50th minute - the 22nd if your name is Deulofayooooo.

there is no way our players could keep up a high tempo defence and attack for 90 minutes, they can just about manage one half.

Dreading the game but hoping for the best (and no that doesn't mean the head of Martinez, it means beating the manc twats)

Iain Latchford
70 Posted 22/04/2016 at 12:59:18
That asparagus story is the most positive thing I've heard all week.

I think that's the best prediction we're going to get.

Charles McCann
71 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:01:07
Ray 68. Who would you play there? Coleman out and Oviedo was terrible there on Wednesday night. If not Lennon then maybe a youngster but I think I'd go with the experience of Lennon.
Paul Andrews
72 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:01:30
Robles;
Connolly, Jagielka (Besic), Stones, Baines;
McCarthy, Barkley, Barry;
Lennon, Lukaku, Mirallas.

Get rid of the 4-2-3-1, it's stale and we haven't got the players to fit the system.

Play 4-3-3 and attack the back four with Barkley joining in from deep.

Jamie Tulacz
73 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:02:37
I'm thinking the asparagus should be a shoe-in to take charge from Martinez at the end of the season. Surely can't do much worse...
Ray Robinson
74 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:10:38
Charles #71. I'd go with a specialist - a youngster if needs be rather than negate one of our few attacking options. We've had all sorts of suggestions on this site recently, Stones in midfield (he's a centre back in need of improvement), Besic at centre back (in an emergency only!), Baines in midfield and now Lennon at full back. Previously we had people advocating Hibbert at centre back! And someone even suggested only starting with fit players and then included Deulofeu!

If we are to achieve anything tomorrow, there must be a shape to the team with everybody understanding their roles and positions. Otherwise another shambles is on the cards like Wednesday night, despite what the asparagus predicts.

Barry Pearce
75 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:12:34
I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I believe our only chance of success tomorrow, would have been to have sacked Martinez within 24 hours of Wednesday's disaster.

In life stranger things have happened. So COYB.

Charles McCann
76 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:15:29
Fair enough Ray 74 I see your point of view. It's going to be difficult with so many injuries and mori suspension.
John Grills
77 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:15:46
Tony (69) you are raising a very important issue here – fitness. Watching the game on Wednesday night illustrated it yet again. What does that say about Martinez and his supposed knowledge of football?

High fitness levels are essential in the modern game – just look at managers like Klopp and Pochettino and how important it is to them.

As Kyle Walker said, Spurs are running every team they play off the park. Whereas our guys after 60 minutes look like lads in the kebab shop at 2am on a drunken night out.

What I find staggering about Martinez is that he dosen't even attend to the basics. Build a solid defence first used to be the footballing mantra. I'm not sure what Martinez's plan is – anyone who figures it out please explain it!

Ray Robinson
78 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:20:44
Charles #76 very magnanimous of you. I'm not right and you're not wrong either. Just two differing viewpoints. Whatever, the outcome, depending on the late fitness tests, there might well have to be some players having to play out of position.
Ron Sear
79 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:22:00
It's taken an gob smackingly long time but at last the British press has woken up to what is happening at Everton.. Alternative manager lists are all over the shop and the journos are sharpening their knives. Now the tabloids are on the case Martinez hasn't got a hope whatever happens tomorrow. Nevertheless we are packing our sandwiches and drinks for the coach trip and will cheer the team on all the while knowing what we will feel like when we score (as if) and then end up counting the seconds to our defence opening up to gift MU the match. Oh, and the weather is not going to be up to much either along with pleasure of travelling along the motorway on the way back with MU coaches packed with laughing fans. I think I want change my user name to Marvin the paranoid robot if Robeto carries on.
Graham Pearce
80 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:24:34
I think we should go with Cleverley at right back, Lennon in front. Stones will make it, alongside Jagielka who is gonna try and get through the game by positioning, à la Paul McGrath style. Baines and Mirallas, Barry will manage his way through the game with a painkilling injection alongside McCarthy, Barkley in front of them and Lukaku.

Besic in if either Jagielka or Barry don't make it. It's too big a game to throw Connolly or Pennington in, in my opinion.

But whatever happens, we must play with pride. This team owes the fans that and quite frankly Martinez's presence is irrelevant to me as the players should literally run until they drop for the 32k blues who are there. If they do that, that will do for me.

Mark Daley
81 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:25:29
Sandra (51): you can get 3-1 on us if you follow the asparagus, evens on Utd. Or stick it on MU and the winnings can soften the blow if we lose; and if we win you won't care about losing the bet!
Mark Burton
82 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:27:22
I'm afraid we could be heading for a car crash. So expect the unexpected. Everybody is expecting Man U to thump us, so the supporters win either way. Lose, Martinez gone. Win, a place in the final and Martinez stays to end of season. I think our place in the league is OK with 41 points but winning tomorrow will only postpone the inevitable, Martinez out.
Brent Stephens
83 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:29:02
Sandra #51 - brilliant! asparagus says "yes".

Reminds me of the wee daughter of a friend of ours years ago who said they had sparrow guts for tea. You can guess the rest!

Craig Walker
84 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:30:30
What is really ironic is that our only hope tomorrow is KITAP1. We need to keep it nil-nil for as long as possible then nick it. If we concede then the floodgates will open.

I'm looking forward to this about as much as root canal work at the dentist.

I never bet but I might do something I've never done before and put a bet on us to lose. There's no chance of a draw.

Ray Robinson
85 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:32:56
Asparaguses are quite good at making predictions. They're known as "asparagus tips".
Jay Wood
86 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:39:02
Has Everton, in our entire history, ever approached such a pivotal game in such abysmal form, complete disarray and with the team so seriously depleted by key injuries and suspensions?

Has 'the faithful' ever travelled with as much trepidation and concern for the result of such a big game as they will do over the next 24 hours?

Whoever the 14 players are (assuming RM will utilize his full contingent of subs) who cross the line to play at Wembley, they have got to fight tooth and claw to have any chance of victory, or some kind of redemption in the eyes of Evertonians for this season and the abysmal capitulation at Analfield.

Some how, from somewhere, the players have to dredge up a performance that - too frequently under RM - they have not been capable of: winning by any means possible, with no regard to philosophical niceties or aesthetics.

I'm a hopeless romantic and optimist when it comes to the Blues. As the faithful showed with their support at Mordor, as they have shown with the take up of tickets for tomorrow, the supporters want this.

Just do it lads. Just WIN and get us to the final. The manager situation can wait for another day.

Jimmi James
87 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:41:41
Dont know why but I have a good feeling about Saturday, can't explain it.
Tom Bowers
88 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:44:55
The tried and tested failures are not going perform any differently tomorrow. With the injuries and suspension, idiot Martinez will have to make changes so why not bring in some youngsters?

It is likely Man Utd will win the day with their superior defence and quicker offence but at least we may get a bigger effort from the replacements.

For God's sake I hope he doesn't play the likes of Osman and Gibson which would serve no purpose at all. Putting Mo in the back four would be risky with his tackling... but hey, the back four has been shaky all season.

Frank Thomas
89 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:50:59
David (64) just have patience with Phil he is angry and frustrated Roberto is breaking us apart .

You are right attack is our best form of defence in the last Man Utd game we could have won but we did not take our chances. I have to disagree about putting Lennon in defence. He has performed better when he stays well above the defence line.

Man Utd is suspect when faced with fast attackers so Lennon and Mirallas will play an important part in this game but they need to have space to run into the box so - drop Rom until the second half.

Based on injuries we should NOT play people who are only 50% fit they will be have to be replaced before 75 mins in this game.

My team would be as follows

Robles
Connolly Stones Pennington Baines

Deulofeu Barkley Gibson ( Lukaku 65) Cleverly

Lennon Mirallas


This would leave running space. Recently our attackers have been so far forward there is nowhere for anybody to run directly into.
However gut feeling is he has to play Niasse instead of Mirallas.

Finally Roberto motivate them tell them - if they win every EVERY player plays in the Final no matter which players recover for the final.

Phil Sammon
90 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:52:18
Asparagus tips...Now that's why I love ToffeeWeb. Laugh out loud comedy. Thanks Ray–
Sandra Williams
91 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:54:21
Personally I'd put 4 asparagus tips in place of our back four and one in place of Martinez next time he gets interviewed.......because all we ever get from him is rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb!! Anyway, it's all a bit of fun.....God knows we need a laugh after all the suffering this season. Safe journey to all Blues going to Wembley. I'll be there (again) singing my head off. Keep the faith. COYB!!
Les Martin
92 Posted 22/04/2016 at 13:58:48
Gents,

It does matter one jot who is fit or not, as the whole team has been unfit all... season.

Do we really expect the team to miraculousely improve enough from what we have seen this season to deserve a place in the final? Nothing though would give me greater satisfaction than to be wrong!! COYBs

Mike Green
93 Posted 22/04/2016 at 14:02:32
Genius Ray #85 :D

Maybe the team should have some for their pre-match meal and do a poll on who's wee smells afterwards for a bit of fun. Settle the nerves.

Denis Richardson
94 Posted 22/04/2016 at 14:12:26
Have to say I'm not too keen on Lennon playing at RB - has he ever even started there before? Massive risk at the best of times but for a cup semi?

A couple of the youngsters have played at RB and I would go with one of them, although I wouldn't throw too many into the starting line up. Assuming Coleman, Barry and Jags are all out and Stones will be in plus RM will never deviate from 4231, then I'd expect/hope for;

Robles
Connolly/Stones/Besic/Baines
Gibson/McCarthy
Lennon/Barkley/Mirralas
Lukaku

Would put Lennon in instead of Deulofeu as he'd provide more cover for Connolly. With Deulofeu, Pienaar and Oviedo on the bench, we have options in midfield as subs.

Personally I cannot see how we're going to stop them scoring. Rashford and Martial have pace to burn, nevermind the likes of Mata, Depay, Rooney and Fellaini. Also Gibson and Pienaar cannot be anywhere near match fit.

It's going to take one hell of a performance to get something tomorrow but at least we have enough on the pitch to score. As usual the key will be if we can stop them. The likes of Mirallas, Barkely and Lukaku are going to have to be up for it.

Anthony Flack
95 Posted 22/04/2016 at 14:13:15
I remember the last time Osssie (who I like) played at Wembley. It almost seemed like the grass was too long for his little legs....

He might be centre half tomorrow, marginally better than the proposed asparagus, but certainly better than the cabbage of a manager

Phil Walling
96 Posted 22/04/2016 at 14:18:45
'So seriously depleted,' Jay ? My bet is that come tomorrow, only Coleman will be missing from RMs preferred line-up. All this noise and fuss just another diversion from more serious matters.

What I have seen of Man Unt. this season indicates they are decidedly average - and their windbag manager is no genius, either, for all his honours in the distant past !

Likely outcome ? A 1-1 draw with Connelly slotting home the winning AET pen !

COYB !

Patrick Murphy
97 Posted 22/04/2016 at 14:18:52
I'm just as anxious about tomorrow as the next person, but whatever has gone before during this terrible season, we still have a chance to see an Everton captain lifting the FA Cup, slim chance perhaps, but a chance nevertheless to witness something that has only happened five times previously.

Forget the injuries, the lack of form and everything else, we have to get behind the team like only Evertonians know how to. Remember 2009 and 1995, remember Wimbledon at home in a far more important match for the club. We might fail but don't let us hand the game to United before a ball is kicked in earnest, get behind every player tomorrow and if we give of our best as supporters there is a chance that the players will do the same and in the circumstances they need that blue wall of noise to urge them on more than ever before - we can do it. I don't want Norwich at home to be the last match of our season I want to be at Wembley cheering the team on a week later - we should all want that, regardless of the ramifications relating to the manager.

COYB NSNO


Phil Walling
98 Posted 22/04/2016 at 14:29:02
'For Bobby and King Bill' eh, Patrick !
Karl Parsons
99 Posted 22/04/2016 at 14:34:17
I'm on my way down now. I'm gonna read Patrick's #97 post again before I leave my hotel in the morning. If you're going the game, make sure you do too. Superb Patrick. I love Everton.
Patrick Murphy
100 Posted 22/04/2016 at 14:39:03
Phil, for neither, but only for Evertonians and their club, why would we want anything else but to win? I can't see the point of becoming defeatist and finding reasons that would pacify us because we like neither the owner or the manager if that is the case we should all find something else to do with our time and money. very appropriate to cite Shakespeare on this particular weekend Phil.
Harvey Miller
101 Posted 22/04/2016 at 14:40:03
It does not matter which players we play the stage is set. We will lose, probably with a record numbers. At the moment we are as good as a non league team hopelessly hoping for cup-success.
The poor sob has done it: we are playing like Wigan.
It is unbelievable that the board can let him continue after the wednesday massacre.
This is the utter all time low since I started supporting Everton in 1966. In the 90's we did fight even with a inferior side and usually did well against the RS' because it meant something.
Jamie Crowley
102 Posted 22/04/2016 at 14:46:41
Ian all the way back @33 I agree 100%.

I know it's the stick to pummel Roberto with, but this game should see us playing wide, wide open no fear fuck defending football.

Our back line is decimated and one of the available defenders is more likely to cop a squat rather than play for his team.

This one single game it makes perfect sense - throw the kitchen sink at them. 7-6 is a great score line!

Martin Nicholls
103 Posted 22/04/2016 at 14:48:39
Well said Patrick @97! COYB
Steve Davies
104 Posted 22/04/2016 at 14:49:00
Well after a busy night in A&E watching people with a lot more things to worry about than me and after having to run the gauntlet with every red in the hospital (It seems like it!) and most wished us well against Utd. Big of them I know? I have come to the conclusion that que sera sera.

I have supported my beloved Blues since 1969, seen us lose merseyside cups finals, semi finals, the list is endless. I have seen this fraud of a manager spoofing it for two years, watched over paid unfit players stroll about the pitch this season, and BK spouting 'What a manager!'

The fact is I don't care if our over hyped mercenary of a centre forward who cannot trap a bag of cement and the over-hyped young centre half who has limitations as a defender go next season. As long as we get good money for them, bye bye lads. If you don't want to play for us, good riddance. Life goes on, I will still love the Blues. Nobody is irreplaceable (Mr Lineker!).

We need to bring in a top drawer proven manager, with preferably premier league experience, and start again. The manager is the most important person at the club, to have a poor one only holds you back. Martinez will not be here next season. I actually think Rooney will be and will be club captain. We will have a new chairman too.

Anyway, I have got my provisions in and will be heading back home tonight to Liverpool and will be on the coach with a terrific bunch of Evertonians tomorrow. Friends, family and hopefully new friends I have yet to meet. We all know what Brian Labone quoted.

I would like to wish all toffee webbers and Blues a safe and pleasant journey down to Wembley and back home. As they say "Win, lose we will be on the booze". Apart from the coach driver, stay on the orange bus lad. I have a pan of scouse on the boil as I write this.

Have a good one fellas......

COYB


Roger Helm
105 Posted 22/04/2016 at 14:58:27
Any other sport and we would be toast but football is a funny old game and underdogs often win. If Wigan can beat Man City then we can win tomorrow. With Lukaku we have at least a puncher's chance. We just need the players to rediscover their professional pride and Man U to be a bit off it. All we fans can do is our best to support the team.

Paul Andrews
106 Posted 22/04/2016 at 15:07:46
IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

It's up to you now lads.
You can go out and play like men......or.


COYB

Sam Hoare
107 Posted 22/04/2016 at 15:10:23
I'm going tomorrow and looking at it as a win-win. Either we get to the cup final with a good shot at winning it or Martinez will be getting sacked soon.
Ashley van Schalkwyk
108 Posted 22/04/2016 at 15:24:50
Let's play Deulofeu instead of Barkley, why not?

Deulofeu has the speed, he has the creativity and he isn't afraid of taking on his man. I'm not knocking Barkley's ability, but he still has issues with his decision making.

Deulofeu has more skill on the ball and is the more creative and more complete player. His pace will worry any central defensive pairing that already has the strength of Lukaku to deal with. With Mirallas and Lennon on the wings the team is hardly weakened.

Deulofeu instead of Barkley... why not indeed?

Oliver Molloy
109 Posted 22/04/2016 at 15:27:16
A big pitch will not suit a team that is not 100% fit ( us of course ) , so I expect nothing from this game other than another defeat.
I hope I'm wrong for the sake of Evertonians everywhere - especially the fans who travel to the game but I just can not see us getting anything..
Andrew Ellams
110 Posted 22/04/2016 at 15:29:07
So we are concerned about the defence. When aren't we?
Trevor Peers
111 Posted 22/04/2016 at 15:32:21
Of course we're all hoping for a glorious win in the semi final, our supporter's deserve that after such a horrible season.

The sight of Roberto leading the lads out turns my guts over though, he just doesn't deserve that honour at all.

Andrew Clare
112 Posted 22/04/2016 at 15:32:24
COYB despite Kenwright wrecking our club, despite Martinez having no idea win this for the fans. It's eleven v eleven. Show some spirit, some fight, some determination. You owe us big time. Never give up.
Colin Gee
113 Posted 22/04/2016 at 15:37:01
I'm dreading going to Wembley tomorrow after that shite 'performance on Wednesday we could implode if Man U score in the first 5 or 10 minutes. If we get beat tomorrow then Martinez has gone, good, BUT he should have been sacked 18 months ago....

As for which team he puts out, it wouldn't surprise me to see Howard in goal. Me personally I would play the two young kids who made their debuts against Southampton Callum Connelly and Tom Davis from the start tomorrow, two young lads with bright futures might just be what the team need to shake out of the malaise they've been in for the last 2 years.

P.S. I see we've recalled another young defender Matthew Pennington from loan. Where's Brendan Galloway disappeared to?

Iain Latchford
114 Posted 22/04/2016 at 15:41:41
If we sit back we will lose. Absolutely no question about it. We have to take the game to them. I would certainly consider playing Mirallas and Deulofeu.

It's a big IF, but if Jags and Stones both play then Besic and McCarthy can do the donkey work. Right back worries me. Clearly Utd will target this area if Oviedo plays there.

Alternatively, maybe play Stones, Jags and Besic in a three, with Baines and A.N Other as wing backs. Just a thought. A lot is going to depend on who's available obviously.

Tony McNulty
115 Posted 22/04/2016 at 15:44:49
Clogs to clogs in one generation. From the Champions' League to reliance on floppy asparagus. Call to action: everyone to hum, "Kum Ba Yah" over your chicken entrails and inverted candles tonight.
Jay Harris
116 Posted 22/04/2016 at 16:03:01
Colin
Galloway seems to have suffered a complete loss of form. His last 2 games for the U21s was worse than Oviedos showing the other night.
Dan Davies
118 Posted 22/04/2016 at 16:12:55
Oliver#109 I was thinking the same Wembley is a big pitch I fear for our defence against the man u young forwards, with the way we play we could struggle in the wide open spaces.

On the positive side we cannot play any worse than the derby.

Peter McHugh
119 Posted 22/04/2016 at 16:26:52
Really pissed off with the players I think they're getting off v lightly.
Steavey Buckley
120 Posted 22/04/2016 at 16:28:05
Whoever starts tomorrow, no Osman or Kone. If picked, they would send out the wrong signals to the supporters, that Everton have already lost. Oviedo and Baines are marginal after their dreadful performances against Liverpool. And Stones is the only fit CH available, otherwise he too should be considered marginal for selection in the starting 11.
Nick Page
121 Posted 22/04/2016 at 16:30:39
Very eye-opening, or not as the case maybe with our feckless incumbent:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/22/kyle-walker-at-first-it-was-horrible-under-mauricio-pochettino-b/

Was similar under Moyes, probably minus the tactics and talent.

Don Alexander
122 Posted 22/04/2016 at 16:34:09
Obviously most of us would like a victory. Most of us would like a night out with J.Lo too. I think I'll be getting the latter before a victory tomorrow unfortunately.

I wanted Martinez to be gone way back but even sacking him this week wouldn't remove one of THE major problems he's repeatedly organised for us, and that's the lack of fitness of the entire squad. That'd never be cured in a week, and nor would any rallying cry from a temp manager have achieved it either. Wembley is a very big pitch therefore "pressing" demands even more effort than normal (and we're poor at that on a smaller pitch) so it'll all be down to our defence to remain resolute and trust/hope/pray that someone somehow gets a goal in summat like the last minute.

I really want a win but sad to say if they raise their performance levels to achieve one it'll show the players in a fairly grim light and, God forbid, may encourage the board to let the muppet continue.

Ian McDowell
123 Posted 22/04/2016 at 16:36:22
Peter @ 119 I'm with you. Yes I have my criticisms of the manager but boy the players are getting off with this. Its not the managers fault John Stones couldn't jump more than 2 inches off the ground to win a header on Wednesday or that Oviedo couldn't get over 5mph in speed, or even make a pass to a blue shirt.

Some of these players need moving on ASAP. With many contracts expiring in the summer this is the ideal opportunity to overhaul the squad this summer. Yes the manager needs to buck up but the players need to step up too, and after Wednesday nights display they can go and f**K off too.
Damian Wilde
124 Posted 22/04/2016 at 16:45:31
On my way down to London now. Like many others don't feel great about going to the match. But as Patrick said, we should get behind the lads and make some noise. You never know. Martinez is not one of us, this is about Everton. I just want us to win a trophy...desperately. COYB.
Andy Meighan
125 Posted 22/04/2016 at 16:45:34
Great stuff again, Lyndon, and you're right – I will never ever forgive him or them for Wednesday night, one of the darkest in our history. At the moment, I'm waiting for him to be sacked.

I feel like I've been buried alive. I'm scratching at the lid and screaming. I can hear people above me talking and laughing and I'm just waiting for someone to say, sshhh! can you hear shouting and a sratching sound?

But I just know no one is going to hear me. It's so frustrating watching this clown destroy our club.
Ray Robinson
126 Posted 22/04/2016 at 16:51:02
Nick #121, read further down the article where it talks about the upcoming Leicester v Everton match and where it states that Everton have nothing to play for after their semi-final defeat by Man Utd (as though it's already happened!) . I'd use this as motivation for the team talk tomorrow!
Nick Page
127 Posted 22/04/2016 at 16:54:31
Don, did you read the telegraph piece on Walker re fitness levels? We've been set back a couple of years by this idiot. Its criminal. And with that in mind, tomorrow will be very very tough, on a big pitch against a young fit side.
Matt Traynor
128 Posted 22/04/2016 at 17:00:09
Ray #126, that is stunning!
Fran Mitchell
129 Posted 22/04/2016 at 17:01:11
FA Cup semi. The players have looked totally demotivated in recent league games, probably because they knew there was nothing to play for. No excuse, but appears the case.

Here's hoping tomorrow we see a change in this, if certain players turn up we have a chance, this is not a great Man Utd team and I doubt they are expecting much of a challenge from us.

How we set up for the game is essential.

Oviedo is not a right back, Collonoly should be given a chance....he will certainly be motivated. Hopefully Stones will be fit, and with the extra responsibility (being the senior) he may up his game, especially as all eyes will be on him. Pennington and Baines make up a rather experimental back-four. But no way should Besic be risked there, he just ain't a defender.

Then Lennon, and maybe Oviedo out wide. If not Oviedo on the left, Osman could well provide one of his once every 2 months motm games. Then midfield of McCarthey and Besic, and one of Mirallas, Gerry or Barkley behind Lukaku.

Our team and squad really ain't all that when alaysed, but the cup is the cup.

Coyb

Brian Harrison
130 Posted 22/04/2016 at 17:02:41
I like many will be getting the train from Lime Street to Euston tomorrow morning. Admittedly I have felt more confident going into other semis than I do about tomorrows game.
But with 30,000 Blues inside Wembley, whats gone on for the past 2 seasons will be put to one side for 90 minutes or maybe longer. They will cheer and sing and cajole our team to help them try and win the game. Whatever I or many others think of RM wont matter a jot when our boys run out at Wembley.
Our supporters have had to put up with many failures in semis but lets hope tomorrow we are talking about a rejuvenated Everton that can go on and get us to an FA Cup Final.
Eddie Dunn
131 Posted 22/04/2016 at 17:03:22
Looking at the game logically, with all that has gone on, there is only one outcome from this semi-final. A United victory, by 2 or 3 goals.
The bookies rarely get it wrong.
Low morale, injuries to key players, and the world waking up to Roberto's deficiencies, mean that we will need a huge change in attitude from our guys, a new tactical awareness from our manager and new levels of fitness on that big Wembley pitch.
I live in hope, but we will need Lady Luck to help us out on this occasion.
Christopher Dover
132 Posted 22/04/2016 at 17:07:42
How about Lukaku at right back and Del Boy at left back, both would have there wish to see plenty of the ball and both should start with plenty of energy as they have done bugger all running about in the last few matches.:)
Patrick Murphy
133 Posted 22/04/2016 at 17:09:20
I wonder if the media 'woke-up' in this particular week for a reason? They usually try and undermine Everton or any other teams in important games against the 'popular' clubs particularly when United and the other lot are involved, obviously Wednesday the players didn't help themselves but I suspect the national media's recent mini obsession with the goings on at Goodison Park will be parked once Saturday's game begins.
Ray Robinson
134 Posted 22/04/2016 at 17:14:00
Eddie #131. How about Leicester 5000-1 to win the league?
James O'Connell
135 Posted 22/04/2016 at 17:30:43
Cracking article Lyndon. Despite the desperate times and the many failures of the board, chairman, manager and players, I do still feel pride when I wear my blue shirt. I must be mental.
Kieran Kinsella
136 Posted 22/04/2016 at 17:38:46
Mystic Meg review of the future

5 mins Stones passes to Rashford, Jags chases pulls his hammy, Rash scores. Pienaar on for Jags, Mc drops to Central Defense

20 mins Pienaar injured replaced by Kone

30 mins Robles accidentally clothes lines Oviedo ball bounces of Mcs ass into goal. 2-0, Osman on for Oviedo.

45 mins Mirallas pulls down his shorts. Red carded for streaking.

60 mins Stones poops his pants after fans boo his six yard box dribbling. Leaves field Everton down to nine.

65 mins Lukaku spots his agent and Laurent Blanc in crowd and leaves the game to negotiate a contract.

70 mins Lennon red carded for no reason at all.

80 - 90 mins Man UTD score five more goals.

Post match. RM hails phenomenal Barry performance. Says league is most important and we need to deliver to keep fans happy. The return of Hibbert will bring a real goal scoring threat to the team.

Next day. Kenwright says "what a manager"

Brian Porter
137 Posted 22/04/2016 at 17:39:42
Please, whatever happens, sack the Catalan Clown after the match tomorrow. He's sucked the life blood out of our club. I truly despise the man now, especially since Wednesday when he ran down the tunnel like the coward he is at the final whistle, leaving Baines and co to go over and clap the fans. No class, no honour, no style.
MARTINEZ OUT
Will Leaf
138 Posted 22/04/2016 at 17:54:44
Win tomorrow?

Perhaps if Chelsea could A Spare Us Guus Hiddink

Peter Gorman
139 Posted 22/04/2016 at 18:01:29
Make sure Jimmy Martin packs the imodium for Stones - wouldn't want him spoiling the hallowed turf.
Jamie Crowley
140 Posted 22/04/2016 at 18:10:34
Ray at 134 -

Brilliant.

Patrick Murphy
141 Posted 22/04/2016 at 18:12:14
The FA have given a list of Pub Allocations for tomorrows match.

Everton (East Team)
The Torch - 1-5 Bridge Road, Wembley, HA9 9AB
Crock of Gold - 23 Bridge Road, Wembley, HA9 9AB
Watkins Folly - 1 Empire Way, Wembley, HA9 0EW
Blue Check Cafe - 12-13 Empire Way, Wembley, HA9 0RQ
Crystal Club (Silverspoon) - South Way, Wembley
The Parish - 120 Wembley Park Drive, Wembley, HA9 8HP
First Class Sports Bar - 125 Wembley Park Drive, HA9 8HG
The Wembley Tavern - 121 Wembley Park Drive, HA9 8HG
Flyers Last Stand - 45 Blackbird Hill, NW9 8RS


Manchester United (West Team)
The Green Man - Dagmar Avenue, Wembley, HA9 8DF
Blue Room - 53 Wembley Hill Road, Wembley, HA9 8BE
JJ Moons - 397 High Road, Wembley, HA9 7DT
Thirsty Eddie's - 412 High Road, Wembley, HA9 6AH
Flannery's - 610 High Road, Wembley, HA0 2AF
Innisfree - 30 - 32 Harrow Road, Wembley, HA9 6PG
Mannions - 313 Harrow Road, Wembley, HA9 6BA
The Copper Jug - 10 The Broadway, Wembley, HA9 8JU
Fusilier - 652 Harrow Road, Wembley, HA0 2HA
Powerleague - Olympic Way, Wembley
Moore Spice - Wembley Retail Park, Unit 2, Engineers Way, HA9 0EH
The Arch, 324 Harrow Rd, Wembley
Station 31, 299-301 Harrow Rd, Wembley
The Corner House
The Liquor Station, 397a High Rd, Wembley

Brin Williams
142 Posted 22/04/2016 at 18:13:17
Just like to wish all the travelling fans a great time - I hope we get the result we want despite all the setbacks this club has faced.
COYB.
Neil Lawson
143 Posted 22/04/2016 at 18:24:39
Never have I felt so disloyal. Want them to win but I don't want Martinez to take any credit.... so if they lose I will not be upset.

Shameful... it's the Spanish syndrome

Patrick Carty
144 Posted 22/04/2016 at 18:30:25
Good luck tomorrow to all Everton players, management and the fans. Let's all stay together for one last push to reach the final.

l will be watching in my local surrounded by United fans, but I am well up for it and suprisingly optimistic.

Colin Glassar
145 Posted 22/04/2016 at 18:38:06
Any chance of Niasse starting tomorrow? I've heard he's been practising with a beach ball to improve his ball control and passing abilities.
Sam Hoare
146 Posted 22/04/2016 at 18:41:58
Interesting article that Nick. Thanks.

Thought this quote might be relevant: “We've got four games left, and we're still running almost every other team off the pitch” Walker says. “The only team close to us, if I remember correctly, is Bournemouth.

He wouldn't be my first or even second or third pick but if we did end up with Eddie Howe I think he would certainly make us a hell of a lot fitter and more competitive.

Phil Walling
147 Posted 22/04/2016 at 18:49:49
The Russians tell me it ain't him, Colin. It's his brother !
Brian Porter
148 Posted 22/04/2016 at 18:53:26
Can't believe he's still in charge after Wednesday's debacle. Any self-respecting chairman would have sacked him the same night which says a lot about BK. I won't be watching tomorrow as I've vowed not to watch another game as long as Martinez is in charge but I wish everyone a safe journey there and,back and I'll probably keep up with what's happening on the live forum .
Colin Glassar
149 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:00:48
It could be Phil, then he could be Titi Kamara back from the dead!
Ray Said
150 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:01:25
Patrick (141) I notice the biased FA allocated more pubs for the Mancs than us
They have all got it in for us, FA, press, Sky media whore, the RS commentators who infest the airwaves like cockroaches, Agent Kenwright, El Pricko Martinez, fucking Kaiser starting the first war and breaking up a title winning team, Hitler starting the second war and breaking up the title winners, Heysel 'incident' breaking up the 85 team-its a conspiracy. Bastards!!!
Or am I getting paranoid?
Matt Traynor
151 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:01:34
Brian #148, after all these years watching Everton can you explain to me precisely why you believed BK would sack him? Based on what exactly? Genuinely I'm keen to know...

Might be easier for you to watch the match tomorrow rather than follow the live forum. I've managed to ensure I'll be roughly half way through a 24 hour trip back to my outpost in the Middle East. There's a small chance a barman in one of the airports en route who knows me will mention it to me, but I might even swerve his bar.

Joe O'Brien
152 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:04:01
Eddie 131 I got Lukaku to score 1st and Everton to win 2-1...40-1..If it's not Rom it's going to be Ross with same score got him at 60-1..bookies are going to be wrong this time. .I hope
Steve Woods
153 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:14:57
Matt # 151, I think you should cut Brian # 148 some slack. Brian did say that "any self-respecting chairman would have sacked him the same night". In my eyes our dear leader with his banner ban is sadly very far from that ethic. Self promoting yes, deluded yes, fantasist yes, chancer yes, the man who has ground EFC into the dirt for the past two decades yes. What a chairman indeed but certainly one without self respect as Brian pointed out.
Ian Brandes
154 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:16:13
Feeling strangely optimistic this evening, and so is the cabbage I bought earlier from the Co-op. In fact it told me the score would be 2-0 for us.

Seriously though, let us try to enjoy a great day tomorrow, give the players the greatest support possible, and,for once, forget about RM.

We can win this!

Arild Andersen
155 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:20:12
I fear this one, but I think there's a chance. I was under no such illusions before the derby.
My FM take, 4-4-2:
Robles - Connolly, Stones, Besic (Jagielka if fit), Baines - Lennon, McCarthy (Barry if fit), Gibson, Mirallas or Oviedo - Deloufeu or Mirallas, Lukaku. Throw on Davies for Gibson and Barkley for Deloufeu after 55/60.
Phil Walling
156 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:21:56
Wasn't it George Weah's cousin who tricked Souness into giving him a game at Southampton ? Perhaps this is Samuel Eto's revenge on Martinez !
Terence Tyler
157 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:23:56
Roberto Martinez From tonights Echo.

"Our team has always been very responsible, with an incredible, incredible focus for working hard and I think we will always face adversity, in different moments in the right way.
"To get into the semi final of the FA cup is not something we have been drawn into or found, we have had to work really hard for 10 months.
"Even looking at the success we had in the Capital One Cup, wouldn't allow us to get to Wembley so that droves us to get into Wembley.
"Now is focusing on what we can achieve in this occasion. It is as simple as that"
Nurse hurry up with the medication trolley.

Chris Wilson
158 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:26:57
Just read the recent Echo article that came up on NewsNow. I love how he says he would be the first one to be "very clear" if the team wasn't good enough or motivated enough to win. Yeah Roberto! Because your analysis of every one of our matches is spot on, and I think Chris Sutton and Paul Merson would agree. You tell it like it is, brother!

I really do hope that we can get a result tomorrow. But if we don't; I can at least take some consolation in that Roberto won't be able to reference "F.A. Cup Semi-Final" in almost every sentence in every interview he has given since beating Chelsea, as proof that he is doing such a great job.

Oh, who am I kidding. If we lose and he's STILL our manager afterwards; he'll continue to wave that over our heads as a demonstration of the talent and potential that only HE sees and that which gets him "very excited".

Phil Walling
159 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:27:43
Well it's good to have ambition. Be better if we had a defence, though !
Dave Ganley
160 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:38:35
Well its not about Martinez tomorrow, its about our team and especially our fans. I for one hope against hope that we can do it and somehow summon the kind of spirit we showed against Chelski. Do that and we should beat the mancs. The players owe us big time and no matter what I'm going to enjoy the day down at Wembley and sing my heart out till my voice is no more. However, one thing I wont be chanting under any circumstances is "his" name. He can just fuck off as far as I'm concerned. Its about us and the team tomorrow so lets show the rest of the country what Evertonians are all about. We outsang the mancs last time round in 2009 and I expect us to do the same tomorrow.

COYB we can do this, lets win this semi and bring home the cup in May.

Tony Twist
161 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:40:00
My team would be Robles, Connelly, Stones, Pennington, Baines, Lennon, McCarthy, Besic, Oviedo, Deloufeu, Lukaku. 4 - 4 - 1 - 1 formation with Barkley coming on in the second half instead of Delboy after running manure ragged in the first half. Should be strong enough back eight to keep them at bay but needs Del and Lukaku to be close together and work in a pair against their defence.
Sean Roberts
163 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:46:41
I know it's hard but let's have some positivity people !!!!
In 95 we were written off before we even kicked off against Newcastle in the quarters then laughed at before the semi with Tottenham because the media wanted the dream FA cup final between Spurs and United and then we're massive underdogs in the final against a very good Manchester United. Let's hope whoever pulls on the shirt tomorrow knows what a privilage it is to wear it and gives everything for the club and for the fans. Give 100 percent and we will support you win or lose !!! Cmon you blues!!! But Martinez out by 7.30 tomorrow evening regardless.
Brian Porter
164 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:55:06
Matt #151
I'm perfectly happy to explain why I (and many others) felt BK should have sacked Martinez after Wednesday's match.
It's not just about that one game, though that was the straw that broke the camel's back. For the last two and a half years I've watched Martinez systematically milk the life blood from our great club. Many of us,have been saying for a long long time that this man has no plan B, in fact it appears his plan A is seriously flawed. He doesn't coach the defensive side of the game, he sees positivity where we see awful dross being served up week after week. Corners, set pieces? No, he's not interested. Substitutions, playing players totally out of position, publicly humiliating Leighton Baines for telling the truth, running down the tunnel on Wednesday like a coward without acknowledging the supporters who'd stayed to the death, constantly promising jam tomorrow,never delivering, need I go on? Any other club would,have got rid a long time ago. I've supported the club for 57 years, I've seen good and bad, was at Wembley in 66 for our great comeback win, but I've never seen this bad!
Phil Walling
165 Posted 22/04/2016 at 19:58:09
Sean, I've thought all week we'll beat the Mancs. But re. your final comment, BK will be on to praise his 'Comeback Kid'- you see !
Colin Glassar
166 Posted 22/04/2016 at 20:02:10
I'd just like to wish the fans who are travelling down tomorrow all the best. Whatever the final score, enjoy it and make your city proud.

I won't get to watch the game until the evening so I'm hoping my Likely Lads routine works once more (it did for the Chelsea game) and I'm sat here quietly chuckling to myself rather then kicking the telly. COYB!!!

Graham Mockford
167 Posted 22/04/2016 at 20:11:05
My first semi final since 1989, that fateful day.

Work commitments stopped me attending the last three.

Every Evertonian is having a shit week, but the beauty of football is we all wake up tomorrow and hope. Maybe it will be another fucking horror show, maybe I'll be going wild in Camden tomorrow night.

But if you are superstitious I'm wearing my 80s bobble hat that I wore for each of the four winning semis in the 80s, so what can go wrong.

Ian Burns
168 Posted 22/04/2016 at 20:12:56
Brin - 142 and Colin 166 - may I join you in wishing all the travelling fans a safe journey and I pray a very enjoyable day and safe but drunken trip back!

We are far off but we will be with you in spirit.

Paul Needham
169 Posted 22/04/2016 at 20:17:18
We will win tomorrow. Forget all the rubbish this week. This IS our year.

United are bang average and we have to attack. 3-1

Brent Stephens
170 Posted 22/04/2016 at 20:18:26
I can't go to the game but despite all our current troubles I'm getting more and more excited about this game. To the travelling hordes, have a great day out.

What have we got...

Martin Nicholls
171 Posted 22/04/2016 at 20:28:22
Travelling down in morning and looking forward to big celebrations in High Wycombe tomorrow night. Thanks for your good wishes all you Blue Boys. You all have a great day. COYB
Bobby Thomas
172 Posted 22/04/2016 at 20:49:23
This group of players is mentally & physically done. They are a shambles, a rotten, dispirited, disorganised rabble.

They are led by a manager who talks total shit & who the players stopped playing for months ago. Do you think this bunch, a team with no leaders, have the character to lift themselves for this?

An early goal will result in a twatting.

Daniel Joseph
173 Posted 22/04/2016 at 20:54:14
Safe journey Blues - We are on the road 0730 following a healthy Maccies Brekkie :-)

Anyone stopping in Hemel Hempstead after the game?

Patrick Murphy
174 Posted 22/04/2016 at 20:56:49
Cheers Bobby (172) That's dampened any enthusiasm I may have had but never mind all those thousands of people going the game tomorrow eh, much better to make everyone feel worse isn't it?
Kevin Naylor
175 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:00:21
Wonder who Rooneys arl fella will be supporting tomorrow?
Eugene Ruane
176 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:00:37
Bobby (172) - Can't really disagree with any of that.

Sadly.

Matt Traynor
177 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:03:03
Brian #164, I didn't make myself clear - your reasons are perfectly valid. My question was, knowing BK, why do you think he would sack RM on the eve of a semi final, no matter how poor the derby match was? No matter how poor the last 18 months have been?

Others have mentioned this many times, but BK falls in love with his managers. They're mates (even Smith, who he did eventually sack). No matter how valid your points, was never gonna happen.

If Bobby's (#172) prediction comes to pass, you might get your wish before the end of the season - but true to form with BK, it'll be too little too late.

Phil Walling
178 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:03:28
I'm hoping you will be eating those words this time tomorrow, Bobby 172.
Graham Mockford
179 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:04:42
Eugene #176

Come on man, it's 90 minutes.

Stop being a wuss. Pull your self together man.

Sam Fitzsimmons
180 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:15:20
The link below is a video of Northern Ireland legend Jimmy Ellis singing the Z-Cars theme with clips of the series edited with clips of Everton's triumphs in the FA cup. A great watch to help lift your spirits ahead of the semi final.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uXIeXb7uok&feature=youtu.be

Tony I'Anson
181 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:19:50
To long serving TW viewers and contributors...


Steve Guy
182 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:19:52
It's the Cup Semi....lets just get behind the team and forget everything else until we are forced to do otherwise ......COYBs!!!!!!!
Trevor Peers
183 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:20:53
Totally agree with you Bobby @172, It's been shite for the past 2 years.
But we have to have respect and give our blessings to all the fans who are going to the game to enjoy their day out, and for their sake, hopefully, pull off an unlikely victory.

If we get battered though, then let's let Martinez know what we really think of him, it will be very be unpleasant.
I do think he'll resign after the game if it's a really bad result.

Lewis Barclay
184 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:20:59
I might use the time to cut the grass. I've never been so confident of a drubbing and by a team we should be above in the EPL.
David Edwards
185 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:29:15
I can understand those who have hope and those who think the team is so shot, a defeat is most likely. It's a cliche but it can go either way with this Utd team. I wish the travelling fans a great day out and will be shouting from my sofa with an IPA in hand with all 47 years of my highs and lows, hopes and dreams with our great club, weighing me down.

However, I have to say that this is the very first time when a defeat in a cup game has a silver lining...with Roberto going, if we lose. "Blue Bill" - please get rid of the clown even if we win it! That is the real win-win scenario!

Jimmi James
186 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:32:09
Lets be loud and proud, show what we as fans can do, scarves out of the car windows and all that, come on up and at em.
Tony Abrahams
187 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:34:51
Loved that Patrick@97, Brilliant mate.

Looking for Barkley to come of age tomorrow. He looked gutted when he was taken off the other night, so let's hope he's still hurting and angry, and instead of thinking too much, just goes out and plays his natural game, full of aggressive forward running. I live in hope!

Agree with Craig, and hope it's still nil, nil, after 70 minutes. We have got to keep it tight tomorrow, just be hard to beat, and hopefully the crowd will do the rest, Fingers X!

Peter Bell
188 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:46:31
Come on you Blue boys.
You owe the fans big time.
Been watching Everton long enough to know, that something tells me we will do it.
I will be singing all the way home from Wembley.
Got this feeling that Dell Boy is gonna really turn up tomorrow.
Dai Morgan
189 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:48:20
Hopefully we will play attacking football through good wing play. Feed Lukaku and hope the defence can scramble the ball away.

Man Utd will score but if we go with the correct attitude from the beginning then a positive result is possible.

In the long run, Martinez is not the man. He seems to emanate a childish view of positivity with little realism. A gentleman though.

Peter Bell
190 Posted 22/04/2016 at 21:58:46
Deulofeu... the 2016 version of Amokachi tomorrow.
Jay Woods
192 Posted 22/04/2016 at 22:17:23
Our only hope it would seem would be to play a 10 0 0 formation and hold out for penalties. I just don't understand how anyone can have a "feeling" we will win this game trying to play in a remotely conventional way. Think of Red Star Belgrade in that horrible European Cup final against Marseilles back in the day...
Scott Hamilton
193 Posted 22/04/2016 at 22:18:20
Managers come and go. One thing never changes:

I LOVE EVERTON.

Come on you blues, we can do this!

Tell me Ma, me Ma, to put the champagne on ice...

Ian Jones
194 Posted 22/04/2016 at 22:20:04
Hi Peter @190. Think the Amokachi moment could be Niasse.
John Raftery
195 Posted 22/04/2016 at 22:22:19
Anything is possible tomorrow. United will be favourites but they have a number of young players who may freeze on the big occasion. We are not playing a team of world beaters.

Despite the chaotic build-up we can win this game providing we turn up with eleven players plus three substitutes who are 100% fit. Our players must show professional pride in their performance, dig in and try to give something back to the fans who have supported them through thin and thin over the past 18 months. Is that too much to ask?

Win or lose if every player comes off the pitch demonstrably having given their very best I will have no complaints about their performance. I remain very unhappy the manager has failed to give us the best chance of winning the game by risking key players in three meaningless league fixtures over the past ten days. There is however nothing that can be done about that now. We are where we are and it will now be down to the players who step out tomorrow to show they are winners. With 100% backing from the east side of Wembley Stadium they can do that.

Callum McNab
196 Posted 22/04/2016 at 22:23:58
Don't care who he plays as long as they come off that pitch after giving there all. Give our fantastic supporters a bit of pride back.

Good luck to all those travelling tomorrow, be safe and have a fantastic day. COYB.

Darryl Ritchie
197 Posted 22/04/2016 at 22:27:14
I'm going into this game much the same as I have all season; hoping for the best, but expecting the worst. If you go by form alone, we're doomed. If you consider the games' venue and importance, you can only hope the squad can find the quality that's been lacking for most of the season.

We can't sleepwalk through this game and expect a result. United are healthy and hungry, while we are patchwork and tentative, at best.

It'll take a miracle!

Dave Abrahams
198 Posted 22/04/2016 at 22:29:08
Jay (#192),

I will be going down tomorrow and will sing and shout my head off, I will expect Everton to play like they did in the last round versus Chelsea and I think Chelsea are better than United and I know Everton are much better than they have been playing.

No excuses about a weakened team, the players tomorrow will be playing for themselves and their pride, they will be out to win for US and the club – that's what I believe and I hope we win.

The Chelsea game could have gone either way but we were giving them a game and we came through. We have a definite chance tomorrow if we don't think that there is no point in going down.

No bravado, we will be out to win.

Paul Conway
199 Posted 22/04/2016 at 22:29:23
Sean Roberts @163, well stated. We had three games in a row where we were underdogs, tomorrow only one.

COYB!
Tom Roberts
200 Posted 22/04/2016 at 22:30:24
As frustrated as I am by the club at this moment in time, I shall be watching from my home in Texas. I just want to wish my sister, brother and his 2 sons a fantastic and hopefully victorious day out, both tomorrow and back there in May.

Yes, Martinez will be gone at the end of the season and a new era will begin for EFC. I always loved Semi-Final day, especially at Villa Park. Do us proud you Blue boys and girls in the stands and hopefully you will get a performance that your fantastic support deserves.
Maybe tomorrow will be the day so that some of these players realize how privileged they are to wear the royal blue jersey. Legendary status awaits. COYB..

Alastair Donaldson
201 Posted 22/04/2016 at 22:39:57
Got an office full of Utd fans to face next week..yes I work in the South!!
I have my EFC shirt on stand-by.
It could happen (and I could also win the lottery).
COYB
Paul Birmingham
202 Posted 22/04/2016 at 22:53:40
Let's back the team and all our fans unite and make the club and city proud of us. Tomorrow is a game and is the opportunity for some redemption. Let's focus on whom will be playing. Man Utd could be over-confident, remember the 1976 FAC final.

Tomorrow, the team must put a proper shift in and more to make up for the tripe we have been watching of late. Gonna go for us to win in normal time. I've not had a drink, saving it for the game, but this is a great chance to save this season.

Have a ball, all those on the road today, through the night and tomorrow, enjoy the day... "What's Our Name?"

Jim Hourigan
203 Posted 22/04/2016 at 22:53:31
We're on the march with Howard's Army!!

It's the only song we can sing tomorrow – out of reverence to our greatest manager and to show the complete lack of respect we have for our current one.

John Malone
204 Posted 22/04/2016 at 22:57:50
The weirdest feeling I've ever had going to Wembley bit like going to a funeral!

You know it's an occasion and all that goes with it but you're not buzzing for it like you normally would be; that excitement just isn't there!

Sad it's come to this really. I'm sure in the morning when the sun breaks through and the first drink goes down, we'll be flying all the way to Wembley!

Up the toffees! Keep the faith!

Ian Riley
205 Posted 22/04/2016 at 23:10:58
United need to have a really really bad day tomorrow. Can we win? Leicester are top of the table! Time for the players to take responsibility. They have got off lightly.

The press and manager have built them up all season but the league doesn't lie. Safe journey all. Those who have watched the dross at home this season deserve a win.

Bill Gall
206 Posted 22/04/2016 at 23:13:30
I think we have just as much of a chance of winning as Man Utd; we will still have experienced players to choose from, and he will have to include some of the young players who, given an unexpected opportunity, will surely take advantage of the chance. Maybe the experienced players will put the effort in to swing it in our favor.

Come on, you Blues, you are playing for the fans, not the manager, and they are 100% behind you. Remember, it's not over till the fat lady sings.

Jay Wood
207 Posted 22/04/2016 at 23:49:14
May I once again put on record and distance myself from the sentiments of my doppleganger Jay WOODS @ 25 and 192 (and other sneering comments aimed at fans on other threads in recent days).

Our views and hopes for tomorrow could not be more diametrically opposed.

Glory beckons. Heroes can be born. We can win and reach the final.

And unlike Mr WOODS, I'm sure the overwhelming bulk of the faithful making the trip believe and desire the same and will be in awesome, full throttle voice in support of the Blues.

Andy Crooks
208 Posted 22/04/2016 at 00:07:58
Jay Wood I agree entirely. I wish every Evertonian going to the game the best day ever. I have a good feeling that players will give it something special. It is indeed a time for heroes, for a story, for a new legend.
Martinez will soon be gone but the players have the chance to leave every Evertonian who is there with a memory for life. Let us have some pride back.

Andrew James
209 Posted 23/04/2016 at 00:29:59
Living 2 miles from Wembley, I am gutted I couldn't get a ticket but that is the price you pay not being a season ticket holder.

Really not looking forward to this. I live on the connecting routes to Wembley and will have to see lots of Man United fans tomorrow. I am hoping to see lots of very happy Blues.

I seriously don't think we will win and have consigned it to being lost. But I did the same in the QF.

All I know is that in '95 you always fancied us because we fought hard. This lot are not of that ilk.

Please boys...prove me wrong!

But whether we win or lose, RM must be removed. It's been poor this season.

Laurie Hartley
210 Posted 22/04/2016 at 00:30:44
As Ray Robinson seems to have alluded to in his posts we have good choices in attack - we should therefore pick the strongest attacking formation we can muster.

I would like to see Gibson in the side.

As far as the back four is concerned and in particular the right back spot I would say this - I do not ever remember an Everton "youngster" come into the first and let the club down. Whoever plays right back for the under 21's should be given the nod to start.

Andrew James
211 Posted 23/04/2016 at 00:52:01
Laurie

Good point yet I reckon he'll pick the knackered / bordering on injury side.

He doesn't seem to like Gibson because Gibson has let himself down but also he plays balls straight through the middle into strikers.

Stephen Brown
212 Posted 23/04/2016 at 01:15:13
Just come in to a ticket !! Any ToffeeWebbers fancy taking me under their wing before the game ???? Place ?
Derek Thomas
213 Posted 23/04/2016 at 01:41:15
First off lets nail the 'Wide open spaces of Wembley ' myth via google;

Wembley; 115 x 75 yds = 8625 sq. yds.

Goodison; 112 x 78 yds = 8736 sq. yds.

Nobody - what ever their reputation, who isn't 100% for 120mins should be putting on a shirt.

Sq. pegs only - none of this Lennon at FB shite...Kids not Crocks if we have to.

Most of all I don't want us to be a Future Cup Final Eve trivia question; In the Infamous St George's Day Massacre, who scored Everton's only goal.

It's a only a load of fuckin Mancs lads, these are shite, get into them and sort it...for once.

Anto Byrne
214 Posted 23/04/2016 at 05:45:25
The masterstroke will be for Tony Hibbert to start at RB. Osman and Pienaar and Kone.
Gary Preston
215 Posted 23/04/2016 at 06:07:49
Well it's Wembley morning have a great day blues just off for me semi-final haircut!! Coyb Martinez Out ..
Neil Wood
216 Posted 23/04/2016 at 06:24:18
On the train already.... Gunna be a long old day but hoping the 4am wake up is worth it.
I am hoping that he plays Del Boy today I think despite his recent form he is a big game player and will relish the chance of playing at Wembley and showcasing his talents.
Fingers crossed today boys!
Neil Wood
217 Posted 23/04/2016 at 06:30:05
Stephen at 212.... Where u travelling from?
Stephen Brown
219 Posted 23/04/2016 at 07:07:44
Neil 212 Swansea
andy king
220 Posted 23/04/2016 at 07:09:42
To all fellow Evertonians it's not about him today it's about you
Wembley is a brilliant stadium so enjoy the day come what may ,the fans can have such a big influence when the players here the noise we will generate and they are not what they used to be so we can definitely win ,it's a blue season in football Everton for the cup Leicester for the league and Rangers for the Scottish cup I'm not superstitious but they say it happens in three's here's hoping
Enjoy your day up the blues you all deserve it
Darren Hind
221 Posted 23/04/2016 at 07:20:05
I think we need to forget this "He should have been gone already " lark . At least for the day. The fact is he isn't, but we DO have a semi final to win.

I just went into the bathroom to admire my superbly honed body and guess what ? My chest has developed a mind of its own. Its all puffed out, proud and ready for a fight. I look like a white Anthony Joshua . . honest !

Hope I can get me shirt on, we're going in a minute

Ian Jones
222 Posted 23/04/2016 at 07:32:41
It would be great if the team could get to the final and bring the cup back home for all the fans and for the likes of Howard Kendall , Harold Matthews and all the Everton friends and family no longer with us.
Joe Clitherow
223 Posted 23/04/2016 at 07:36:11
Right. Car all set. Off down South very soon.

Anyone parking up at West Ruislip station?

COYB

Ian Smitham
224 Posted 23/04/2016 at 07:43:48
Phone,check, sun cream, check, Tickets, check, wine, check. Off to Manchester Piccadilly for the train down. Have a great day everyone.
Brian Cleveland
225 Posted 23/04/2016 at 07:45:38
Just watching the guys having a look at Wembley and the first thing that struck me was that all the seats are red! Bugger that, that's psychologically damaging for starters!
Joe Clitherow
226 Posted 23/04/2016 at 07:48:36
Stop worrying and watch it unfold unless you can have some influence on the outcome. Post mortems come later.

Some of us who will be there can have some influence, and we will do our absolute best, but lay off the negativity as it is depressing and indirectly influences the influencers.

For one day.

Ernie Baywood
227 Posted 23/04/2016 at 07:57:19
I'm starting to feel some nerves. I reckon in a couple of hours I might give us a chance. And a few hours and beers after that I'll be right up for us pulling off a shock win.

I hope that some of these players are getting hyped up for the game of their lives. Ross, John, James, Rom... I'm looking at you.

Come on you blue boys!

Mark Tanton
228 Posted 23/04/2016 at 08:08:16
How sad that I don't really feel anything. Not like 95, when I couldn't sleep and didn't know what to do all day.
David Greenwood
229 Posted 23/04/2016 at 08:10:17
Come on, let's have a great day.

They are no great shakes. Time for the players to stand up and be counted.

We don't even have to win today to get through. Penalties would be enough. I hope we have been practising them.

Tom Roberts
230 Posted 23/04/2016 at 08:17:02
Sorry for the repeat post from Texas, I know the blue armada has set sail to Wembley before I've even gone to bed but just want to say again that we are the best fans in the world and the boys today will find a performance to reward you.

Can't wait to share in the glory of victory but whatever happens, do yourselves, your club and your city proud. Enjoy it, the glory days are just around the corner. COYB..

Antony Matthews
231 Posted 23/04/2016 at 08:17:16
I honestly believe Speedo Mick will lead the team out and pull his kegs down in front of the entire United team who will then fall about in uncontrollable laughter unable to stand up and Louis Van Gaal will do a sketchy drawing in his folder. Martinez will then proclaim it as an "incredible moment" .
Ernie Baywood
233 Posted 23/04/2016 at 08:21:52
I know what you're saying Mark. The greatest thing I feel is shame for not feeling quite like I should.

I'm going to have a few drinks and watch some old clips. Spurs 95 will be a good starter.

Dave Abrahams
234 Posted 23/04/2016 at 08:30:33
Just ate a hearty breakfast, my wife is driving me to Lime street Station, all set for a great day

"We shall not We shall not We shall not, we shall not be moved Altogether We shall not--------stop the music I've just had a horrible thought, will every season ticket holder get a ticket for the final, ah never mind I can worry about that in a couple of weeks. "We shall not------etc etc etc

Jim Lloyd
235 Posted 23/04/2016 at 08:36:41
To all the Blues travelling to the Semi, have a safe journey and a my hopes for a great day out.

Our tattered remnants of a team couldn't have had a worse build up to this day; but this day is the day for them to show up and play for the shirt and the fans.

I've just found a photo of Howard and the lads coming down County Road with the Cup, hope it's an omen!

Anyway, I just hope the players can give a performance that does credit to the lads and lasses of all ages who'll be roaring them on.

Come on you Blues!

Barb Ellis
236 Posted 23/04/2016 at 08:38:03
Happy St George's Day, blues. We could do with him and the dragon backing the team today. Good luck to the team and all the the faithful at Wembley today.
Jim Lloyd
237 Posted 23/04/2016 at 08:39:48
Nice one Dave! Have a good journey.
Douglas McClenaghan
238 Posted 23/04/2016 at 08:58:59
I may not be as clever as an asparagus, but I am bemused by posters who think that if we lose tomorrow RM is gone. We may have to put up with him for some time yet. Phenomenal!
John Raftery
239 Posted 23/04/2016 at 08:59:29
Derek - 213 The current pitch at Goodison is only 110 yards long and 74 yards wide. It is one of the smallest pitches in the league. Bearing in mind how useless we have been at home I think the bigger pitch may suit our free flowing style of football. Let's hope so.
Paul Doyle
241 Posted 23/04/2016 at 09:23:56
For a start, Martinez needs to play players in there right positions and not play senior pros out of position instead of putting one of the young lads in there correct slot; Oviedo at right back will be destroyed by Martial for example.

Stones needs to defend / win the ball, and give it – no fucking about across the back four today. Besic, McCarthy or Cleverley (I was told yesterday that Barry is out for the season) need to be on the front foot, terrorising the midfield and letting them know we are up for it.

Barkley, Mirallas and Lukaku need to put their egos to one side and put in a team performance today, showing us what we know they are capable of.

I hope someone has banged heads at Finch Farm since Wednesday and drummed home to these over-rated, over-paid pricks what today means to us and for once they give us what we deserve,

Oh and at the end when we are celebrating, please keep that idiot chairman away from any post-match interviews – he has embarrassed us enough.

Tony Waring
242 Posted 23/04/2016 at 09:25:33
John (239) - Yes always assuming they don't run out of breath after the first 60 yards !
David Booth
243 Posted 23/04/2016 at 09:28:20
Leeds station, ready to go. Only a game of 11 v 11: so down to the players now to stand up and be counted. We CAN do it today. COYB. Make us proud.
Rahman Talib
244 Posted 23/04/2016 at 09:29:48
Part of me want to believe we can pull an upset but that is a very small part of me.
Ernie Baywood
245 Posted 23/04/2016 at 09:30:31
Just watched the 95 final. Our number 5 lifting our 5th FA Cup.

Mind you our number 4 lifted our 4th.

What number is our captain again?

Name on the cup I'm telling you!

Christopher Dover
246 Posted 23/04/2016 at 09:42:18
To all the fans who have spent a fortune going to Wembley I hope the team like you all turn up with a fantastic performance to reward your loyalty.

Enjoy your day, hope we win.

Sean Roberts
247 Posted 23/04/2016 at 09:58:51
Have a great day to all the blues making the journey. All any of us can hope for now is a performance to make us proud to be blue again.
Coyb's
Gareth Evans
248 Posted 23/04/2016 at 10:19:19
Only way I can see us getting to the final is if we can somehow hold out for a 0-0 and then beat them on pens again!

Hope all the blues travelling down today have a safe journey and manage to enjoy themselves.

COYB!!!!

Kim Vivian
249 Posted 23/04/2016 at 10:19:37
Douglas(238) - I assume you typed that up last night, fell asleep in front of Aliens, woke up this morning and clicked the submit button.

We ARE gonna win today. I'm not a betting person but as a matter of interest I think somewhere you can get 11-1 on us to win on pens.

Brian Denton
250 Posted 23/04/2016 at 10:28:39
Just waiting for my mate to turn up so we can get going. It's the hope that kills you!
Tom Plant
251 Posted 23/04/2016 at 10:32:48
Time for the players to man up and perform, despite the obvious short comings of RM. The likes of Rom need to stand up and stop sulking and prove that he is a 㿨m striker, opposed to the ٤k players he has been playing like for the last month or so!

A couple of the young lads should start today - put Pennington or Conolly in at RB and I would play Besic alongside stones if jags misses out as expected. Davies in alongside McCarthy and Barkley with Dowell and Gerry behind Lukaku. Most likely RM will "play it safe" and put three injured, unfit players in though.....

Regardless, got to get behind the boys today and a win would mayb salvage the season to some extent. Despite a win, RM still has to go as he is clearly not the man to take the team forward.
COYB!

Jon Cox
252 Posted 22/04/2016 at 11:03:19
Wasn't lucky enough to get a ticket but every neighbor for miles around me will know if our beloved Blues score.

I have only one piece of advice to our massively unfit players and that is what we were told many moons ago.

If you can't run. let the ball do the work.

It may be the only thing we will have at our disposal at the end of the day.

COYB

Richard Lyons
253 Posted 23/04/2016 at 11:24:11
Douglas @238 - I agree. Even if we lose today, Martinez will not be sacked. He will finally get the sack next season, at precisely the point where it will have become too late for his successor to rescue us from relegation.
God I'm feeling positive today! Come on... COME ON YOU BLUES!
Jimmi James
254 Posted 23/04/2016 at 11:32:50
Lets all have a good day out and stay safe lads please. Lets do this see you there. Finally on me way.
Mike Powell
255 Posted 23/04/2016 at 11:35:58
Fuck all this Martinez talk till another time – let's get behind the Blues today. Come on, Everton, you owe us big time. Win this for us fans... give us something back for all the heartache you have given us this season. COYBs
Sandra Williams
256 Posted 23/04/2016 at 11:53:14
Just had coffee break at the services on the M6 toll road. Hundreds of Blues......already out-singing the one or two ManU fans! Great atmosphere and heart-warming to see so many of us on the journey South! It's the hope that kills us!! COYB!!
Laurie Hartley
257 Posted 23/04/2016 at 12:09:36
Sandra # 256 - Good on you!

If it was Evertonians V Manc supporters we would win hands down all day every day - but hey - maybe that is what it will really come down to today.

One game - get behind them - we can win this.

UP THE BLUES!!!!

Julian Exshaw
258 Posted 23/04/2016 at 12:17:48
Big days like this don't come around often for us, sadly. Whatever the result, I hope they play with courage and a pride in playing for our beloved Everton. In general the players have got away with a lot of criticism ths season as Martinez, rightly or wrongly, has borne the brunt of it. We have heard the pathetic excuse that they are not performing for Martinez! Today, once again, we ask them to play for the fantastic fans who will be there in full voice and those around the globe who wish they could be there. A Bosnian brought up in Germany appears to have the fight and the moral courage necessary. Let's see that spirit from all the boys today. Good luck and do your best!! Nil satis....
Dave Long
259 Posted 23/04/2016 at 12:34:29
Watching in Japan with a 4 die hard blues. The fans in the stadium will make us proud, let the team do the same.
Anthony Jones
260 Posted 23/04/2016 at 12:51:23
Let's hope that we play well and knock the entitled Manc muppets off their pedestal. Put the manager to one side until the final whstle blows. Ross owes us a big game.
Joe Clitherow
261 Posted 23/04/2016 at 12:54:37
Warwick services half and half. Think Blues are a little bit ahead on the motorway
John Critchley
262 Posted 23/04/2016 at 13:13:41
Ernie Baywood, oh I hope so mate.

Safe journey to our fans today, hope the team do you proud!

Paul Thompson
263 Posted 23/04/2016 at 13:24:50
Greetings from sunny Scotland to all the blues travelling down to the game. I feel your excitement. I have a little of my own via a newly installed 50" telly to watch the game. We can do it if, but even if we don't, can we please have 100% commitment from staff and players and make us poud.
Terence Tyler
264 Posted 23/04/2016 at 13:29:30
Failed drugs test. Sakho
Shane Corcoran
265 Posted 23/04/2016 at 13:35:05
Just read that on another forum Terence. Explains a lot.
Jay Wood
266 Posted 23/04/2016 at 13:37:59
Can we get the Derby replayed, Terrence...?

Best not, eh?

Stones, Barkley and Mirallas to have MONSTER games for us to win today!

COYB BEAUTIES!!!!

Antony Matthews
267 Posted 23/04/2016 at 13:43:23
I wouldn't be asking for a rematch Terence. It could be 5-0 or more if RM is still here. Could they get punished? ie banned from Europe..points deducted. I doubt it cos some how the sun shines outta their arses.
Garry Corgan
268 Posted 23/04/2016 at 13:50:52
Here at Wembley. Crowd growing nicely. All blue so far. Atmosphere building.
Shane Corcoran
269 Posted 23/04/2016 at 13:51:46
I've never heard of a team being effected for one person's drug tests regardless of where the sun shines from.
Kieran Kinsella
270 Posted 23/04/2016 at 14:01:26
I've no hope none none none at all but for the sake of the traveling fans the team need to prove me wrong and at least do their best. If they play well and are beaten by a better team so be it but I don't want to see a tepid lackluster surrender.
Mark Fitzgerald
271 Posted 23/04/2016 at 14:02:00
Ok folks it's time to park the pessimism for a day, suspend reality and put on the rose-tinted glasses. We haven't had many opportunities to reach a cup final in recent years so it's an opportunity to get behind the team, cheer them on to an improbable victory and show everybody that Everton fans are among the best in the world.

Safe travels to all those on their way to Wembley. COYB!

Patrick Murphy
272 Posted 23/04/2016 at 14:04:58
BBC report doesn't make it clear when Sakho failed his test therefore it could have been any game in which he played this season, but I suspect that if it was a European game he will be sanctioned and the RS will be given a two goal lead for their next Europa encounter that's how it works isn't it?
Jimmy Salt
273 Posted 23/04/2016 at 14:10:28
Where is the live forum?????
Jimmy Salt
274 Posted 23/04/2016 at 14:10:28
Where is the live forum?????
Kunal Desai
275 Posted 23/04/2016 at 14:14:58
Anyone who thinks that Martinez will be incharge whether or not he wins the FA cup is very naive. He has completely lost the majority of the fan base and it looks as though he has lost the players.
There is no chance of a manager continuing with these two outcomes, we will have a new man at the help come next August.
Sam Barrett
276 Posted 23/04/2016 at 14:37:37
If the RS get banned from Europe because of Sakhos failed drug test, does that mean they will ban us as well?
Kevin Judge
277 Posted 23/04/2016 at 14:38:47
This is not about Martinez today this is about our loyal fans.

So come on you players you owe us today.

I can only hope our best ever manager Howard Kendall is looking down on us today!!!!

Coyb good luck we need it.

Joseph Walsh
278 Posted 23/04/2016 at 14:45:51
Gents, first time on ToffeeWeb... Read it religiously every day – no matter where I am. I feel like I know most of you already... Colin, Jim, Paul, Martin and Co hello! The amount of times I have wanted to post but back out but today feels different...

I've dipped out of commenting when we first signed Lukaku and ToffeeWeb went into meltdown. Then the times we have not forgotten all of Kenwright's painful disappointments. The derby hurt – never seen such an embarrassing display but still didn't comment.

So why post now?

It feels different...

Forget Martinez for today. Forget what he has done to us and what Kenwright hasn't done or promised – focus on today.

Reading all the comments from the States, Japan and further afield struck a cord... I'm working here in Cape Town and we are a global team.

It's full of Manure fans here and little old me but I have a good feeling about today if we turn up!!!

Enjoy the day to all of you going, be safe and get right behind the team!!!!! COYB!!!!

1-0 Lukaku (with a nervous last 20 minutes!)


Kerry Frahm
279 Posted 23/04/2016 at 14:53:15
I'll be lying in my bed here in Australia with my laptop screen glaring on my blue shirt trying not to wake the rest of the family. Good thing my wife is a night duty nurse and is at work!

I remember back to 2009 and I was at Wembley with three other mates from Australia to watch the lads in the final v Chelski. Result aside, it was brilliant. The memories are giving me chills as I recall the feeling of the blue flood pouring in from the train stations and pubs and the chants beginning.

That amazing support is going to be there again today for the semi. Let's forget for 90 minutes what has been going on this season and lift the lads for this game. Come On You Blues! 2-0 Lukaku and Lennon!

Mark Rimmer
280 Posted 23/04/2016 at 14:58:53
The body's crumbling but the heart remains strong! Give it some berries travelling blue fans! I'll be with you in spirit.
Paul Columb
281 Posted 23/04/2016 at 15:22:46
Gonna confess something potentially unpopular but in my case true nonetheless.

I have mixed feelings regarding today's result. If a win even slightly increases the chance RM is at the helm for another season, I'd rather we loose. The well-being of the club beyond today is my concern. I'm beyond disappointed that the board have created this conflict for me and potentially other supporters.

It's obvious that he's lost the players. Going into today's game with a caretaker manager would have at least provided a feeling of new horizons, ambition and an injection of hope on a big stage.

As it stands, I can't be arsed. Beyond deflated. I admire fellow blues who can move beyond this mental block and support without reservation. I hope the best supporters in the world enjoy a grand day out at Wembley and witness some fight.

Paul Tran
282 Posted 23/04/2016 at 15:26:08
You're Fired has just won at Haydock. Is that an omen for later? Hope so, after a win today!
Kerry Frahm
283 Posted 23/04/2016 at 15:27:42
Can we take any inspiration from Rayo Vallecano? 16th in the Spanish League and 2-0 up against Real Madrid (3rd) before the 15th minute. Maybe it's underdog day today?
Brent Stephens
284 Posted 23/04/2016 at 15:28:50
Joseph #278 - nice first post. OK, Lukaku to do it for us, as you say.
Kevin Naylor
285 Posted 23/04/2016 at 15:31:37
Paul 282, beat Erik the red as well!
Jim Lloyd
286 Posted 23/04/2016 at 15:45:08
Well said Joseph (278)

We've been through some dark times; and it hasn't helped having a Chairman who's worse than Del Boy (at least Del Boy was funny)

Well, hopefully we can perhaps look forward to some better times...starting today would be great! But surely Kenwright has to pack up and go home now and Mr Moshiri take charge.

Anyway, if Rom does the business it would make up a bit for the dire times.

Phil Sammon
287 Posted 23/04/2016 at 15:53:28
$40 on the Blues at almost 4/1. I've never bet on an Everton result before but this just feels like one almighty 'fuck it'.
Kevin Rowlands
288 Posted 23/04/2016 at 15:57:35
Paul #281, 'I'd rather we lose' fella we haven't won a trophy in 20 plus years! Shameful thing to say, today isn't and shouldn't be about Martinez, it's about Everton mate!
Ian Price
289 Posted 23/04/2016 at 15:58:38
Has anyone heard the team news yet... surely with an hour to go he has to announce it?
Terry Underwood
291 Posted 23/04/2016 at 16:12:09
If we get beat, that is forgivable. If we don't try, that is most certainly not. I always feel that players getting paid mega bucks should need oxygen every time they loose. It seems to me that we have some players who would not mind losing 4-3 as long as they got a hat trick.

My old rugby skipper would go round the dressing room and slap everyone round the chops, just to make them angry, it usually worked... over to you, big Dunc.

Neil Wood
292 Posted 23/04/2016 at 16:20:34
Fuck me I'm nervous !!!!
James Hughes
293 Posted 23/04/2016 at 16:20:36
We should be enjoying today and dreaming of a final, so forget the clueless idiot who mismanages our team and ENJOY IT.

No watching the game from behind the sofa or cursing the players, just get behind the boys in blue.

If you are religious then please pray, I'm not so I may adopt a muiti-faith stance for today.

Get us to the final blue boys COYB

Paul Columb
294 Posted 23/04/2016 at 16:24:24
Kevin (288)....I know. It was a confessional. Don't want to feel this way, believe me. I believe a cup win will give him a BK shoe-in for next season. Won battle....lost war.....relegation fodder.
Brent Stephens
295 Posted 23/04/2016 at 16:31:19
Robles, Baines, Stones, Jags, Lennon, Macca, Besic, Cleverley, Ross, Rom, Gibson
Jim Lloyd
296 Posted 23/04/2016 at 16:38:02
That sounds ok. Got the telly on my shirt and scarf on and ready with the bottle opener.

Paul. Can well understand you but today we go for it (hopefully) – I don't think Mr Moshiri will allow an incompetent Chairman to make any more decisions affecting this club.

Come on Blues!

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