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The Egremont and other nostalgia
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2 Posted 07/05/2018 at 13:27:46
3 Posted 07/05/2018 at 13:59:54
4 Posted 07/05/2018 at 14:12:29
I have put Sam's name down for both - he'll absolutely piss them.
5 Posted 07/05/2018 at 14:18:35
New Brighton was a great day out back then, but when the weather was hot, I always wanted to stay this side, I remember as young kids we would ump on the train and we'd all be made up heading towards magical places like Freshy, Ainsdale, Southport. We never knew where we would get off - I think you had to actually pay for that privilege
6 Posted 07/05/2018 at 14:27:08
The MV Mountwood was the ferry used in the Gerry and the Pacemakers film and for the opening credits of the Liver Birds.
Your post got me reminiscing about the Royal Iris that was at the Stanley dock, I was reading about it's history.
The MV Mountwood was gutted and refitted and renamed ‘The Royal Iris of the Mersey ‘ , this new version still works I think, taking tourists up the Manchester Ship Canal.
7 Posted 07/05/2018 at 14:28:01
I wonder if Kenwright would be allowed to enter the biggest liar in the world competition - being a professional and all that like.
Not sure many outsiders would travel to Cumbria to attempt to win a gurning competition though . . it would be like I going to china to win a table tennis tournament.
8 Posted 07/05/2018 at 14:28:12
9 Posted 07/05/2018 at 14:35:51
10 Posted 07/05/2018 at 14:35:59
11 Posted 07/05/2018 at 14:37:36
12 Posted 07/05/2018 at 14:54:51
It still does the ship canal cruises of which I would recommend
13 Posted 07/05/2018 at 15:13:51
A lad from this village, his brother and Dad have all won the gurning mind. He was on the Bonjela adverts pulling his faces. Might have done something like Opal Fruits too.
The group It Bites "Calling All The Heroes" were from Egremont. Robert Plant did a surprise gig with them there last year.
I've checked, and you're right, Sam would be barred. They did ask what size horses halter you required, mind. ðŸ˜
14 Posted 07/05/2018 at 15:40:08
I want that at Wembley Brian by the quickest & easiest route possible...& that is still by winning the League Cup not top 4 like a million & one Blues & Moshiri wants.
I may be a dreamer...but I'm not the only one !.
15 Posted 07/05/2018 at 15:49:11
16 Posted 07/05/2018 at 15:50:41
17 Posted 07/05/2018 at 15:54:31
Calling all the heroes. A brilliant piece which didn't get the recognition it deserved. Fantastic to hear It Bites are still going. I often YT it.
Gurning Mike ? its an old British custom, a competition where basically, the contestants twist and distort their faces to make themselves as ugly as possible.
Think 5000,000 RS whenever Man United win a trophy
18 Posted 07/05/2018 at 15:54:34
Also used to go to the outdoor swimming pool, was that Harrison Drive? I remember it had a high diving pool and the pool was, I think, 25ft deep immediately below the board. A great day out on a hot day.
19 Posted 07/05/2018 at 16:05:53
I'm pretty sure the Egremont was named after a place in Wallasey and used to do the Wallasey/Birkenhead run where the Royal Iris went to New Brighton.
Its really come to something when we get more fun out of discussing the ferries than Everton.
20 Posted 07/05/2018 at 16:11:28
Haha yeah Jay, much more fun discussing the old ferries than the trials and tribulations of Everton at the moment.
21 Posted 07/05/2018 at 16:13:57
22 Posted 07/05/2018 at 16:20:08
The indoor fair is now called Adventureland and is like a kids playground.
Used to be a regular Sunday out on the Ferry to New Brighton. Spain was even thought of then and Rhyl was an exotic location.
23 Posted 07/05/2018 at 16:20:49
24 Posted 07/05/2018 at 16:23:08
25 Posted 07/05/2018 at 16:23:19
Incidentally, that's what MY face looks like when Man United win a trophy. (What can I say, I hate all teams in red.)
Keith, I might have to come over and stay with you just to see that live. Can I book my usual room at the Harrison Hotel for September? I'll bring back all the silver from last time.
26 Posted 07/05/2018 at 16:25:03
27 Posted 07/05/2018 at 16:28:13
28 Posted 07/05/2018 at 16:32:15
29 Posted 07/05/2018 at 16:37:33
Running down the steel pier holders. Absolutely crazy stuff when compared to the way kids are wrapped in cotton wool these days,
I remember diving into the shallow waters near the castle in New Brighton and my face got stuck in the thick oily slime. Lucky it was soft or I'd have broken my neck.
Going back to Bobby Mimms. He was unfortunate to be second fiddle to the greatest ever but he would walk into our team now ahead of our player of the year, I reckon .
30 Posted 07/05/2018 at 16:39:53
The swimming baths you remember was the Derby Pool. It was on Harrison Drive yeh and had that really high board. Spent all my childhood summers there.
New Brighton had a big swimming baths and there was one in Hoylake too. There even used to be one in West Kirby so that was four in a stretch of about 3-4 miles or so.
31 Posted 07/05/2018 at 16:59:39
One Saturday, he knocked us up out of bed early and bundled us all down to the station. One of the longest train journeys we'd ever taken as kids. We had no idea what was happening.
We got there and the Mecca we knew, Southport; pier, rock and little trains, was blown away by Ryhl; crazy golf, bright lights, a sea front which seemed to go on forever.
Then on to Prestatyn!
It never happened again but it was treasured more later in life when I realized than my arl ella worked like a dog and hardly took time off. Proper exotic that place.
32 Posted 07/05/2018 at 17:08:13
Not forgetting New Ferry open air baths. You had to have a pair of plums to jump off the high diving board as a kid.
33 Posted 07/05/2018 at 17:32:33
Fun fact
Ozzy Osbourne and Black Sabbath played there once in 1969 to a full house .
34 Posted 07/05/2018 at 17:38:47
Tony, I remember seeing Black Sabbath supported by Van Halen at the Floral Hall in Southport, think it was 1978. Great gig, that.
35 Posted 07/05/2018 at 18:39:11
We used to try and bunk on and off the ferry without paying although I don't really know why because I think it was a few pence each way. Must have been for the dare.
36 Posted 07/05/2018 at 18:42:04
37 Posted 07/05/2018 at 19:03:12
38 Posted 07/05/2018 at 19:08:09
39 Posted 07/05/2018 at 19:49:49
You probably remember the deodorised version seen on top of the pops when everyone thought they had to be Nick Kershaw or Go West.
Do yourself a favour; You tube calling all the heroes Tokyo 89. I stumbled across it years ago
At first you will think its a bananarama vid, but very quickly you will realise these guys are serious, serious musicians. Right across the band, drummer, base, Keyboard, lead Guitar and vocals . . Nothing like I expected
Beats watching Sam Allardyce's Everton all day long
40 Posted 07/05/2018 at 23:11:42
It was New Brighton that had the real high diving board.Harrison Drive was small by comparison. The deep end was over 20ft deep. When anyone climbed up onto the top board every bugger in the baths would watch to see if they'd chicken out. From above the baths looked like a shell with the water going from nothing to 20+ft. The buildings were Art Deco and it was a real shame that it closed .Many happy memories of going there when I was a kid. And swimming in the filthy Mersey.
41 Posted 07/05/2018 at 23:26:22
Number 11 shows New Brigbtons diving boards.
42 Posted 07/05/2018 at 23:29:23
Number 11 shows New Brigbtons diving boards.
Number 26 shows Derby Pool diving board when the baths was still called Wallasey baths.
43 Posted 07/05/2018 at 23:30:20
44 Posted 07/05/2018 at 23:44:54
45 Posted 07/05/2018 at 23:46:03
46 Posted 08/05/2018 at 11:45:20
It is a shame to see the original Royal Iris wasting away now on the backs of the River Thames . It is a sad sight.
Police were called to it a couple of years ago when it was taking on water. They found evidence of squatters that had been living on it and 'drug paraphernalia'.
They should put it out of its misery.
47 Posted 08/05/2018 at 12:04:30
I said a few months back if they ever get to build our new stadium at BMD it would be a good idea to maybe to use the ferries to bring over the fans from the Wirral. Maybe renovate the Royal Iris and put it to good use.
48 Posted 08/05/2018 at 12:04:41
My gran had a caravan in Town (or Abergele?), shoreside of the main road. Used to stay there while my dad was doing it up. Small amusement arcade on site. Cross the railway and up the steps over the sea wall to a pebbled beach. Bogs always smelled of jeyes fluid or something like that.
Drove through Abergele, Towyn, Rhyl etc last year for the first time in 4 decades or more - for old times sake on the way back from Harlech. Couldn't believe the number of caravan sites etc, amusement arcades etc. Took me about 3 hours to get from Abergele to Prestatyn.
49 Posted 08/05/2018 at 18:13:11
I was talking about with my older brother today and he said there used to be an ex sailor with one leg who used to climb to the to and dive off. Everyone would be encouraging him and applauding. He would then pass his hat around for a collection. I don't remember that or know which pool it was but wondered if anyone else did.
50 Posted 08/05/2018 at 18:20:10
51 Posted 08/05/2018 at 23:05:52
52 Posted 09/05/2018 at 08:09:09
Keith. Go and sit on the naughty step. That was terrible...
53 Posted 09/05/2018 at 08:37:19
After reading this thread, a mate of mine phoned to tell me the Egremont is still kicking around too. He came across it down in Salcombe a few years back.
54 Posted 09/05/2018 at 08:47:43
I think he used to dive off the New Brighton pier as the ferry was pulling in. Then the hat was passed around the disembarking crowd. Think he was a relative of Stevie G la
55 Posted 09/05/2018 at 09:42:42
His name was Peggy Gadsby, True, born in Nottingham. Google it.
56 Posted 09/05/2018 at 13:00:00
That Gadsby was apparently great.
57 Posted 09/05/2018 at 15:53:03
It was only in later life that I heard an explanation of the story, it appears that he did his diving in the vicinity of Perch Rock, New Brighton, and as he did so he would shout "Don't forget the diver"
I view this topic as an escape route from the desperate issues facing our club, I have written on a thread or two stating that I was against the appointment Sam Allardyce, but as with every manager of Everton, I would support him in his efforts.
I now feel that the Board of Directors must, when the West Ham United fixture is decided, announce the termination of his tenure; I await developments with bated breath.
58 Posted 09/05/2018 at 16:02:20
Keith, you won't go away will you? Maybe this story about a man with a wooden leg, will drive you awayIt's about a miracle that happened in Liverpool many years ago. A man with a wooden leg went into a Church and came out with a bundle of firewood. I don't remember the name of the church where this miracle occurred.
59 Posted 09/05/2018 at 16:43:07
60 Posted 09/05/2018 at 16:46:56
61 Posted 09/05/2018 at 16:57:09
Billy the diver 1902-1920 an amputee was the inspiration for
Peggy Gadsby ‘ the one legged diver' then took over and was followed by his son
Dare Devil Leslie, who amazingly had both legs, but unfortunately only one hand.
62 Posted 09/05/2018 at 17:02:00
63 Posted 09/05/2018 at 17:07:43
Me and religion don't mix.
64 Posted 09/05/2018 at 17:09:37
Hope he's okay.
65 Posted 09/05/2018 at 19:13:35
Did anyone go to Rivacre Valley open air baths.
My mates and me used to bike it on Sunday
mornings along the New Chester Road.
Being about 14 years old, happy days.
66 Posted 09/05/2018 at 19:49:45
I'm working on another theme, in an effort to put an end to the misery of the season, and my unfortunate medical condition, that saw me as a guest of Southport Hospital for seven weeks, five of which were 'nil by mouth'
Thanks for your good wishes.
67 Posted 09/05/2018 at 20:35:56
Haven't got a clue what it means-perhaps someone can ask Mark Cavendish or Barry Gibb.
68 Posted 09/05/2018 at 21:08:02
I still visit the site on a regular basis now that it has been turned into a Harvester Pub/restaurant called "The Derby Pool".
Also remember going to an open air pool somewhere near Bebington when I used to visit a cousin over there in the late 60's but can't remember what that was called.
69 Posted 09/05/2018 at 21:25:30
70 Posted 09/05/2018 at 22:16:12
What has prompted me to think about returning to the fray, was an experience new to me, that of watching Everton on T.V. while playing a home game.
It all depends on how I progress during the close season, it may require a late fitness test.
I would like to thank the 'ToffeeWebbers' who sent good wishes, it just reinforces my opinion that Evertonian's are indeed special people, as I told Steve [62] I am working on a theme that I hope the powers that be allow to be published, it will keep me out of trouble and strengthen my one finger typing technique.
71 Posted 09/05/2018 at 22:58:24
72 Posted 09/05/2018 at 23:16:28
73 Posted 09/05/2018 at 23:20:22
Everybody on here is rooting for you so keep putting the beef back on and youll be back to your old self in no time.
How about a "legends" theme to follow on from favourites. That should keep you occupied.
74 Posted 09/05/2018 at 23:23:27
I think youre talking about New Ferry pool in Port Sunlight.
I used to go out with a girl from there and we used to go for a dip after hours!!
75 Posted 09/05/2018 at 23:28:36
I don't think anyone's mentioned Crosby baths either. Had many a great Sunday there.
Our local was Margaret Street baths.
Does anyone know if Crosby baths still there?
What a great time we had as kids.
76 Posted 09/05/2018 at 00:09:30
77 Posted 10/05/2018 at 04:24:17
79 Posted 10/05/2018 at 11:26:19
Ray, I too despair of the constant reference to Sam Allardyce, it's been done to death, the things we're reading now are the same things we read six months ago.
Jay, I am working on a theme now, it can hardly be regarded as a "Legends theme" and I'm thinking of calling it, "They also played their part".
I trust that the powers that be, consider it worthy of publication.
80 Posted 10/05/2018 at 12:19:29
The old Crosby baths got demolished and they have built a modern one on the same land.
Looks a bit like a ufo.
81 Posted 10/05/2018 at 15:14:25
It's been a long hard road for you John so carry on as you are and you will be on the subs bench, at least, on the opening day next season, Josh can sit with you.
Very best wishes, John.
82 Posted 10/05/2018 at 15:48:24
Had many a great time there.
83 Posted 10/05/2018 at 18:19:22
I've been giving some serious thought to how I would like to celebrate my 80th birthday, [Sunday July 15th] and I can think of nothing better than arranging a get together of any "Toffeeewebbers" who would be interested in such an idea.
I appreciate that a lot of them live outside the city but the ideal situation for me would be one of the pubs opposite Central station, I could get the train from Ormskirk, [resulting in minimal walking distance], if there is a good response I'm sure it would be nice to put faces to what are at the moment, just names.
I feel sure that our Nicki can arrange to have my SURPRISE PARTY for Saturday 14th what do you think of the idea.
84 Posted 10/05/2018 at 18:40:29
3 things:
1. Talacre Bay: Just the words. What a place. For some reason my missus when young thought it was in Hawaii!
2. Saw Elvis Costello on an invitation only "do" on Royal Iris.
3. As a kid that loved ferries, also saw old Pier Head ferry jetty sink. Great memory strangely.
85 Posted 11/05/2018 at 03:10:03
And yes, I remember going on the Saturday night jaunts on the Royal Iris.
86 Posted 11/05/2018 at 07:23:26
Check this out:
https://friendsofguisachan.org/main/preliminary-schedule-guisachan-reunion-2018/
Hope you have a great evening, don't forget to send in the pics and stories of it all
87 Posted 11/05/2018 at 07:33:53
88 Posted 11/05/2018 at 10:24:52
I know it won't interfere with your plans, but I had a lunch time rendezvous in mind, my birthday being on a Sunday. It may not happen at all, but nothing ventured nothing gained, on the other hand it may lead to something big.
After all, we have one thing in common, and I'm sure a myriad of memories to share. Once again enjoy your break, and keep watching this space.
89 Posted 12/05/2018 at 02:01:20
John glad to see you're feeling better and posting. Have a great birthday party. Would love to attend, but I live 6,000 miles away. I'm part of the Liverpool Diaspora. In 1978 I came to the US on a one year contract, which has turned into nearly 40 years in San Francisco, and have an American wife and six adult children.
90 Posted 12/05/2018 at 11:52:01
What an unfortunate time to relocate, the 'Eavenly Eighties'.
Regarding the possible get together with fellow 'ToffeeWebbers' it may never happen, but it would be nice to put faces to names.
What at the moment is just the germ of an idea may develop into something stronger, if so when it comes to toasting "Absent Friends" I'll make sure you get a mention.
91 Posted 14/05/2018 at 18:04:36
LIke Ron I am now in exile in Florida (since 2006). I miss the "Pool and the people especially evertonians but there is also an army of blues out here.
I wont be able to be with you but just wanted to wish you all the best and say you are a great contributor to the ToffeeWeb family and long may it continue.
Have a great day, best wishes.
92 Posted 14/05/2018 at 18:42:31
Glad to read that you are feeling better. I am certainly looking forward to reading, and perhaps responding, to a "They also played their part" thread. I can think of one or two over my 60+ years of watching the club who could fall into this category. And also a "What might have been..." thread.
I hope to read that you have put together your July party. 81 is certainly a wonderful age to reach. And maybe by then, you never know, things may have changed for the better (again) at Goodison Park! I was speaking to an EFC friend in Southern England after Sunday's showing, talking about possible changes, and we came to the conclusion that, whatever may happen between now and the new season, we shall still be supporting the Blues, whatever the team, thrilled by a win, desolate by a loss...until the next game. And we are both over 70, will we ever grow up?
93 Posted 15/05/2018 at 08:20:16
Jay one thing you have I should imagine, is plenty of sunshine, if so, I envy you for that.
Terry someone suggested that I could do an article on 'Legends', and I thought why should the so called legends get all the plaudits? So I changed the title to, When 'Legends' were thin on the ground.
It features every player who represented Everton from 1946-47 to 1950/51 some only played one game, but I believe that they're worthy of recognition.
94 Posted 15/05/2018 at 15:20:17
95 Posted 15/05/2018 at 18:01:54
97 Posted 17/05/2018 at 03:20:21
I've been living in Australia since 1974 and just reading this thread brings my childhood memories back to life born in The Wirral.
I spent many a bright sunny day at either New Brighton or Derby pools. The old New Brighton fair ground was a favourite haunt for my family, it even had its own tower. Ahhh... them days.
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1 Posted 07/05/2018 at 13:19:07
I've got a feeling she was even the star of the Gerry and the pacemakers film.
A ferry boat, Mate