Moyes leaves West Ham

Moyes has just left West Ham.

Wouldn't be the end of the world: always wondered what he could achieve with money, knives to gunfights etc.

Mike, I'm sure you are talking tongue-in-cheek. And I do not want Moyes back. But at the same time, I really do wonder what he would do when given big budgets. Not even this Moyes at this Everton but Everton & Moyes from give or take 2007 with Moshiri's bankroll. Would he be able to make the step-up?

Moyes also left West Ham.... anyone thinking what I am??!!

4 sackings on the bounce, and the Premier League strugglers will be queuing up for his services next season. His PR is second to none. His net worth would make your eyes water, all with an empty trophy cabinet left behind. Can't fault him.

“always wondered what he could achieve with money”,

See his time at Man Utd...

Never go backwards. Our time is coming. Believe, move onward and don't t looking back. COYB

I wouldn't consider him to work on the turny after the disgraceful way he tried to betray this club.

An awful attitude to taking on the big boys. The creator of the glass ceiling.

There was probably only three less inspiring managers out there. How is it even possible we managed to appoint all three.

What was the name of that D Ream song again ?

Darren he didn't TRY to betray this club he succeeded.
Anyone who would have him back must have no pride or principles whatsoever!

He betrayed the club" So presumably he "betrayed" Preston to manage us? Did Koeman betray Southampton as well? Who is worse? Those managers who betray their clubs or the clubs that induce them to? Aren't Everton as guilty as any other club?,"He betrayed the club" So presumably he "betrayed" Preston to manage us? Did Koeman betray Southampton as well? Who is worse? Those managers who betray their clubs or the clubs that induce them to? Aren't Everton as guilty as any other club?,,,1,19:07:26,,82.0.158.174,ok,13017,05/16/2018 19:07:26,crewe49@blueyonder.co.uk,reader,, 918848,36658,toffeeweb,16/05/2018,Anthony Murphy,tmurphone@hotmail.com,Moshiri certainly has a thing for Portuguese..! Alan Myers naming Conceicao on a three man list with Fonseca and Silva. Surely it's a done deal and Brands has given his approval. Still would like to see an approach to Emery just to see what he thinks,Moshiri certainly has a thing for Portuguese..! Alan Myers naming Conceicao on a three man list with Fonseca and Silva. Surely it's a done deal and Brands has given his approval. Still would like to see an approach to Emery just to see what he thinks,,,1,19:09:38,,86.8.77.15,ok,19714,05/16/2018 19:09:38,murphyt,reader,, 918849,36660,toffeeweb,16/05/2018,Neil Carter,neilncath@yahoo.co.uk,Sad news-the passing of a true Everton and football legend.,Sad news-the passing of a true Everton and football legend.,,,1,19:09:57,,31.51.111.45,ok,20770,05/16/2018 19:09:57,NeilfromthePaddock,reader,, 918850,36658,toffeeweb,16/05/2018,Brian Williams,brianwilliams_uk@yahoo.co.uk,Shane. Allardyce was alluding to the changes made on the "board" not his own sacking.,Shane. Allardyce was alluding to the changes made on the "board" not his own sacking.,,,1,19:10:05,,109.158.138.143,ok,856,05/16/2018 19:10:05,Brizey,reader,, 918851,36660,toffeeweb,16/05/2018,Andrew Clare,andrewclare@buyelectricityonline.com,Ray was one of the greatest Everton players. The best in his position that I have ever seen. RIP.,Ray was one of the greatest Everton players. The best in his position that I have ever seen. RIP.,,,1,19:11:38,,193.109.198.55,ok,1613,05/16/2018 19:11:38,andrewclare@buyelectricityonline.com,reader,, 918852,36664,toffeeweb,16/05/2018,Brian Williams,brianwilliams_uk@yahoo.co.uk,Another one merely angling for a better deal at his present club?,Another one merely angling for a better deal at his present club?,,,1,19:11:51,,109.158.138.143,ok,856,05/16/2018 19:11:51,Brizey,reader,, 918853,36659,toffeeweb,16/05/2018,Mark Tanton,markptanton@hotmail.co.uk,"He hasn't been sacked anyway as far as I know. I may be wrong but his contract has finished, hasn't it?

I know what you are saying Brian, but He didn't reckon on the integrity of our left back. That the reason I said "tried"

Darren. Ah got you now. I thought you were referring to his putting off signing, and then not signing, the new contract so Utd didn't have to pay compensation for his services.

Jeez, what is it with some people on this site? Don't want so-and-so... I don't care who our next manager is, what his background is, who they have previously managed etc, as long as they are successful at our club.

As for our next manager, I would be made up if it was Benitez. Yes, he made a disparaging remark about Everton, it was tongue-in-cheek and probably right. Mind games, anyone?

We need a proven winner, not the dream ticket that lots of TWers are clamouring for, but one that can and has cut it in the Premier League and Europe.

I also would be happy if Moyes came back, with a budget that is commensurate to a club aiming for top 6/7.

Anyway, it's all about opinions and thoughts, and these are mine. Tin hat deployed, locked in a nuclear fall out shelter, do your worst.

I guess Westham felt his efforts as "derisory" as when he tried to buy Baines and Fellaini at their peak for 12 million lol

He wasn't sacked – his contract had ended. He did the job he was asked like Allardyce. (Huge difference in class the way he and Allardyce went about their jobs though wasn't it?)

Having said that, I would not welcome him back; he burnt his bridges big time.. and we need to step up from the past decade out of the mire...

He was sacked. A failure to renew a contract is a termination by dismissal (technically!)

Moyes wasn't sacked by West Ham, his contract had finished.

Whilst my preference would be for a manager with a naturally more attacking style of play than Moyes, I wouldn't be upset if he returned. I think he's a good manager. Given ample funds he could have a real crack at the top 4. I personally think he finds great players with the right attitude and character. Apart from a couple of wildcards his signings for us were excellent last time.

I am a real fan of David Moyes. I think he did a great job at this club, once it got settled (02-06).

I was talking with a fellow blue on Tuesday as we busy checked our phones for news of Allardyce's sacking. We agreed on two things. One Niasse is a Moyes type player — he will not give up. The one thing that Moyes instilled in the team was commitment. Some will argue that belief was often missing (record against the big teams) and that may have been his issue.

But the other thing we agreed is that if Moyes had signed a Lukaku in 2007 then he would still be here, we would have won something and we may be talking about a top 7 or whether Spurs will break into the top 7. He was one decent 20+ goal a season striker away from a team that could challenge. Yakubu scored 16 in 2007-08 and then got crocked.

But the other thing we agreed is his time has gone.

Somehow in the last 5 years the game has changed and finding players with the passion and commitment for a club like a Cahill, a Neville, a Jagielka, or a Niasse is becoming more and more difficult. Moyes would need to re-create the team of the years before he left with the passion to do anything, play anywhere for the good of the club and that he will not be able to do.

Kendall Mk 1 was great, Kendall Mk 2, so so; Kendall Mk 3, awful. Moyes Mk 2 — no thanks.

What would Moyes do with money? He signed Fellaini for 㿇 million, that's what. The guy has neither the imagination nor the belief to be a top-level manager.

He was fortunate in many ways to be in a comfortable rut here producing the same 'Ground Hog Day' season year-in & year-out, free of the pressure that big money and the need for real, tangible success within a short time-frame would have brought. He would probably have been sacked with 12-24 months had Moshiri arrived in 2007. He's gone. Let it rest.

Why is Moyes's return even being discussed here? If he is not good enough for West Ham, then he is no good for us. Yes, he knows our club well, but he has stagnated rather than grown as a manager since he left us. No way he should be coming back.

I would have loved Eddie Howe. He plays attacking brand of football but defensively he seems to be like Martinez. But we need a whole revamp of the defence now. From centre-backs to left-back and right-back. Even Seamus was suspect defensively in the last 2 months; we need to get competition for him as well. Either Kenny or someone better.

No sentiments for the old guard of Jagielka, Baines and Coleman. They served us well over the years and they will be always be considered legends but that should not guarantee starting places in the team every game if they don't play well. Even for Chelsea and Man City 㿞M players like Stones and Luiz are dropped to the bench.

If we want to become a big club, we should act as one now. We need a perfect manager who is ready to take such decisions. Silva or Di Francesco would do for me if he can bring along Manolas and Dzeko. Also, sell Klaassen and Rooney and bring in Shaqiri or Mahrez.