What Big Sam’s appointment would say about the current state of Everton FC

A pair of ball bags in charge of this great club. Big Sam... how fucking low can it get?

It never ceases to amaze me that people are holding very senior posts at our football club who were not vetted properly and who were appointed on the basis of dodgy relationships with the “right people”. Nothing's going to change while this continues and it's depressing that so many Evertonians don't seem to be bothered by this other than blaming Kenwright for everything. True, he is more than happy to see more Fokkers appointed but the composition of the board needs to come under a lot more scrutiny; it's frightening how little real expertise resides in the people now deciding who the next manager will be.

I think big Sam wants an extended contract, something we are not prepared to offer. The board should make the statement quickly and end the uncertainty. No one else wants the job at this stage and who can blame them, we're in freefall. Good luck to Unsy.

Ticks every box for me and he's not Dutch or English.

Go get him now.

It would be between Unsworth and Allardyce until a new, and high-profile manager, is installed. And my money would be on Unsworth rather than Allardyce.

Surely Boy's Pen Bill has learnt something over the years in charge

The paucity on the field is a reflection of the mess off it. Who is in charge?

No structure, no sleak operation, just a lack of business savvy.

We all know the board needs refreshing, to be polite, and a media officer needs to be appointed. Everton need to control the narrative not be led like an old nag to the knackers yard.

If the board believe his appointment is a short term necessity then they will be badly mistaken. Everton will be yanked from the TV schedules, the minimum only. Attendances will drop and convincing players to come to a club who think themselves a relegation candidate will result in more poor recruitment.

I don't think in a million years Kenwright would appoint Sam, this if the media are to be believed must be a Moshiri driven idea.

Thats the point, the lack of leader and accountability has created a vacuum. It has been filled by any ‘Jonny who' except Everton. We look rudderless and inept.

How can Allardyce, Dyche & Unsworth all have been favourites for job at one point? It smacks of confusion.

Everton need to man up, place on record their plan and settle this shitshow down.

Focus on what we have now not the past or the might be future. Unsworth is still in charge until I see different.

(a) There's no clear-cut favorite who's currently available, so the board would prefer to wait until the summer

(b) If Allardyce has been sounded out, he's trying to leverage the situation into a long-term deal that the club isn't prepared to give

(c) The board has enough faith in Unsworth to allow him to steer the ship until the end of the season

Also, re: Jonathan's question about Martinez's appointment, if you go back and watch his introductory press conference (which makes for some pretty comical viewing), it seems pretty clear that he did his homework, walked into the interview, fawned over Everton's history and had Kenwright eating out of his hand. It all looks pretty embarrassing, in retrospect.

As you say, if they can't decide it will be Unsy for so long as we don't lose half a dozen games on the trot !
Then it will be back 'to their original favourite ,Big Sam !

The current state of the team is transitory given the finances involved with Moshiri, even if Usmanov doesn't come on board, and the days of low-level managerial appointments, certainly any long-term ones, over probably over. So really, threads like this belong in cloud cuckoo land.

Now BK is on a winner all ways, he knows it, because we blues just love chasing lost causes. We love it. Everton had bigger gates in the 90's when we were chasing survival than in the 80's when we were winning the titles. It's a given that we Evertonians want a game fit only for gladiators, where the winner takes all, fuck your 40 passes, fuck your possession, just let the opposition go 2 nil up and we, the mighty blues will somehow get 3 goals and then, the 3 points. Thank you, now fuckoff.

For me, Unsworth can see us through this shite, he knows that our current formation is fit only for gladiators where boots and tackles fly, when really, its game on. We will provide the encore, the support that has been missing for several years, but it made a come back on Saturday. We've been doing this since 1878, so no Premiership club, that includes Chelski, Citeee, Mourinhoo or even the shite across the park can match us. We have been in the top flight a long, long time and we are now going to show them how we do it.

Interesting to note how stable the percentages are despite the substantial increase in voters from 1610 (when I first looked) to now, with 2709.

It's the Premier League, FFS!!!

Our next three games are Palace away, Southampton away and West Ham at home. These are three games that give us, and Unsworth, a huge opportunity to really steady the ship. Two wins and a draw, or even a win and two draws, would give the team more confidence and it would give Unsworth more time to get to grips with being the manager of the senior team.

Those brings us up to the end of November. By this time we should be doing okay. It may seem a bit of a gamble to stick with Unsworth but I think going for Allardyce right now really is the option of last resort.

Only members of a smart board (and I exclude ours) will REALLY know who will get the gig and if they are smart (again excluding ours) and they want to make a killing they will ensure their bets are placed at the very last minute, thus catching Mr Oddsmaker with his kecks down . . They'll also get somebody else to place their bets.

Forget the Markets, they're about as informative as the tabloids

Unless BFS is given the gig before we face Palace, the chair is Rhino's. If he wins, not even this board would be stupid enough to remove the fans favourite and take a gamble on the guy nobody really wants

After Unsworth's first 2 games I was heading into Sam Allardyce territory. After his third game there is a glimmer of hope but I would say he has a hell of a job on his hands to turn this around.

Dyche has never appealed to me as an Everton manager and I reckon he would be mad to leave Burnley for us in the current circumstances.

Silva is doing OK at Watford and would, like Dyche, be mad to jump ship after just being appointed at a new club subsequent to being relegated with Hull.

Simeone, is a high profile manager but everyone seems to think that Moshiri is in la la land if he thinks he can lure him or anyone like him to Goodison.

Sam the other candidate on the "short list" is not on the list according to Sam and is probably now out of the question. I don't reckon the board would be game to appoint him anyway.

I think I may be getting cynical after the events of the last 3 years, but the thought has occurred to me that "the board" are playing a blinder.

Everton doing so perfectly encapsulates our expectations and mentality, ie: that of Stoke, West Brom and Southampton.

If it wasn't for our heritage and our fantastically loyal supporters, we would have no standing in the game at all.

Bill Kenwright has run this club like a corner shop, whilst the six we aspire to compete with have grown into megastores.

Allardyce may well 'save us from relegation', but what happens next? Is that it? And is that all the board expect nowadays?

It doesn't encapsulate our expectations; it encapsulates our current predicament. We have to put the fire out before we can resume building the house.

The club is two points off 9th place with a shell-shocked Huddersfield up next.

Only the panic merchants believe we are in a relegation battle... I wonder have any of them seen how shite some of the teams down there are.

Unsworth has confounded his critics, They said the job was to big for him, but he has taken us from a relegation spot to 13th, he has given us our best performance of the season and the only decision he has to make now is whether to give his critics a mental one finger or two.

That's three wins from six Premier League games and, try as they might, his detractors cannot change that irrefutable fact.

I wonder if big Sam will build on Rhino's climb or the table or have us slipping down the table again? Time will tell...

"Unsworth has confounded his critics"... What? He has done no such thing; rather he has proven himself lost at this level.

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And they'd be right. What fucking future plans are gonna be made if youa re not in The league? Check out Leeds, Villa and the rest. Until they get their arses out of that league, they have no futures. and even then, they will likely have championship players and be in real danger of going straight back down.

Everton have players on six figure weekly salaries. There would be a fore sale. Why would any club show us charity. "You want him off your wage bill?" £20 million tops for Sigurdsson. Enough to pay th eliabilities still owing on him. And then the rest...

We are in shit creek. If we survive, there will be much talk of dumping Sam. Thanks for the help, but bye. It would be tough on Sam, but what does he expect from that style of football? And what do we expect after months of dross, inept defending and little evidence of goal threat?

As for the insults, let's just stop and give him a chance. I remember the treacherous Moyes getting a standing ovation at Goodison when he was leaving to go to Man Utd (Yes Utd, for god's sake) after doing very little for us apart from creating a legacy of getting well beat at Anfield and struggling at other top grounds and getting dumped out of cups by shit teams with plenty of hammerings to boot.

He showed no respect to Everton and it finally came out at the end with his underhand dealings with Man Utd. Once again last night he showed his talent for making it easy for the opposition. So if Allardyce improves on that – great!

Quite the irony that the player Moyes ensured left Everton earlier than he would have done, got the hat-trick to spoil his night. The player that the some idiots say is finished. Will some people ever learn!

Bill joined later. But the intent is clear. Moshiri's appointment. Bill clearly didn't agree and has been demoted to the ensemble.

I'm petrified about the appointment, I'm sure this isn't the stop gap everyone thinks it is. Moshiri's and Allardyce's rhetoric sound anything but a chance to kick on, nothing about saving us from relegation.

I wouldn't be surprised if he has an impact, the squad has talent and skills, despite hiding that from us in recent memory. So that's why I find it so galling, any reasonable organizer will get more from this team. It's not broke so bad that it needs life support.

After the 3rd went in, we actually showed a little confidence and knocked it around. Davies almost in an instant reverted back to the one touch demon, instead of the headless chicken he's become.

There was no need to panic, but the real reason we are is the boards lack of succession planning. Get your replacement lined up before you fire the fella.