Mo painting borough red

Andy Crooks
1 Posted 29/04/2018 at 22:14:56

Anton, I'd have him ahead of Scneiderlin any day. He needs a run in the side, time to find his feet and not to be going crazy in a ten minute cameo trying to prove himself. Rooney is done, absolutely done. His return was an expensive gamble that has failed. Besic back, Rooney to China, for a start.

Andy Williams
2 Posted 29/04/2018 at 22:42:39

They love him at Boro' and are all saying he is a class above. He was so young when he came to us with a lot going on his life and only one decent run in a team that was in the process of becoming dysfunctional. Seems a no brainer to me.

Tony Everan
3 Posted 29/04/2018 at 22:50:10

I am pleased for Mo.

It is one thing playing well against Burton and another dominating Anders Herrera and Paul Pogba.

He may have found his level.

Alan J Thompson
4 Posted 30/04/2018 at 06:59:36

I've always thought there is a decent player in there but has had terrible luck with injuries.

Saegaran Kana
5 Posted 30/04/2018 at 09:18:27

I'm happy for Mo. He played very well during preseason and early league games. He was the only player to make forward pass or running with the ball. I hope we keep him.

Sam Hoare
6 Posted 30/04/2018 at 09:56:39

When Mo arrived he was pretty young and like alot of foreign players (De Bruyne anyone?) he did not hit the ground running. He tried too hard and made too many mistakes. But since his first season and a half he's barely played two games back to back in the same position. No player is likely to excel in such conditions. He's had no consistent game time.

Until going to Boro.

The championship is a step down but its certainly not easy; he has bossed it and been one of their best players in the recent push to a playoff place.

This is from the Middlesborough gazzette:

"The Bosnian schemer bossed the engine-room from the off and helped Boro seize control of the game and finally nail down a top six spot.

He glided about the middle third with balletic poise and took some sublime touches to create time and space for himself.

Besic looked every inch a Premier League player. He was faster, sharper and read the game better than anyone on the pitch.

He orchestrated Boro's attacking player, driving forward himself or picking out a delightful pass to change the direction and tempo of the game in a flash."

Doesn't it sound like we could use an all round midfielder like that?!

He's fast (rapid compared to Rooney and Schneiderlin), competitive and it seems like he can pass much better than we have seen. His passing accuracy is nearly 90% and he makes more key passes per match for Boro than any Everton player does for us. Only Siggurdsson gets anywhere close.

He's still only 25 and I think he deserves a real shot in pre-season to stake a claim. He's done better on loan than the likes of Dowell, Lookman etc and could add the dynamism we've been crying out for in the middle.

Simon Jones
7 Posted 30/04/2018 at 10:26:10

There is a call for new midfielders to be brought in on another thread, well, we have two on our books that might be bang up for another go at Everton, Besic & Dowell.

The Besic situation has surely proved the power of the loan system, were a player has been given a chance and grabbed it with both hands. His return to our fold at least gives the club a pleasant headache, whether to retain him or sell him.

William Cartwright
8 Posted 30/04/2018 at 14:31:57

One of my favourite players, before Middlesboro and hopefully after. I have a suspicion that he will join them full time and make even beterr strides there than he would here (under you know who). I recall he marked Messi out of the game at the last world cup. A performance that prompted Roberto to bring him to Everton. Also he absolutely bossed the game against City last season. Consider the quality of the opposition wouldnt faze him if he was part of a TEAM and playing on a REGULAR basis in his NATURAL position. . . . . .

I really like him, a lot. He has a personality with an edginess that gets in the opposition's faces and we don't have players, except James McCarthy and Jonjo who do that naturally.

Come on home Mo and COYB!

William Cartwright
9 Posted 30/04/2018 at 14:31:58

One of my favourite players, before Middlesboro and hopefully after. I have a suspicion that he will join them full time and make even beterr strides there than he would here (under you know who). I recall he marked Messi out of the game at the last world cup. A performance that prompted Roberto to bring him to Everton. Also he absolutely bossed the game against City last season. Consider the quality of the opposition wouldnt faze him if he was part of a TEAM and playing on a REGULAR basis in his NATURAL position. . . . . .

I really like him, a lot. He has a personality with an edginess that gets in the opposition's faces and we don't have players, except James McCarthy and Jonjo who do that naturally.

Come on home Mo and COYB!

Chris Gould
10 Posted 30/04/2018 at 14:57:19

Mo has played very well for Boro and bossed the midfield in almost every game, except against Wolves, who are now a premier league club.
He was anonymous and outplayed.

I don't think he is top half of the table premier league standard. I could see him doing a job for a newly promoted premier league team (not Wolves) or a Brighton, Huddersfield standard of team.

Mike Gaynes
11 Posted 30/04/2018 at 15:40:36

I am delighted for Mo, wish him the best.

William, that game against Man City wasn't last season, it was in January 2016, and it was his only top quality performance in 55 appearances. He had zero goals, zero assists and (Sam please note) one key pass for us in those 55 appearances.

Yes, he did actually score a goal for Boro, only the second goal of his professional life, and has exactly one assist (the purple prose from the newspaper notwithstanding). Over 14 games he has done well against Derby, Brentford and Millwall. He has proven over dozens of games that he is not good enough to do it against the top 6 or Leicester or Newcastle.

I remember reading similar posts about another young Blue midfielder with a splendid attitude, Adam Forshaw, who became a Championship sensation after departing Everton. But when Wigan went up to the Prem, he proved to be in over his head. Forshaw was recently sold to Leeds by Boro after losing playing time to, among others, Mo Besic.

In my opinion Besic's career arc will be the same. He is not, never has been and never will be a top Prem player.

Anton Walsh
12 Posted 30/04/2018 at 18:45:57

I think he should at least be kept as a squad player. I think giving more luck and a good run he could be the type of player we need. I like him.

John Smith
13 Posted 01/05/2018 at 10:17:21

He's not good enough for us. He gives away too many free kicks and cards and tries too hard he doesn't know how to control his anger. He injures himself on field and even in the gym. Watch him in the last boro game where he didn't get a penalty (which should of been rewarded) and he chased the umpire all the way back to half way and looked like he was going to punch him. Typical Balkan agro.

Gareth Clark
14 Posted 01/05/2018 at 10:29:14

I think he has great ability & raw talent - he needs to learn to control it.

However I don't think he'll be happy being a squad player.

He fits the exact same mould as Gueye, and he's not going to get ahead of him unfortunately.

I think for his own happiness, he should find a team where he can be a regular starter & enjoy his footy.

Sam Hoare
15 Posted 01/05/2018 at 10:38:22

Mike, he may well not be a 'top' premier player but at the moment the questions is can he do better than what we have?

I think the answer may be yes.

How many assists do Davies, Gueye, Schneiderlin and Mccarthy have between them this season? One!

Seems to me you've written a player off when he's hardly had a chance over the last few seasons. Every player deserves to be considered if they are playing well enough. Forshaw did not play as well as Mo is playing now.

John@13 he's got 4 yellows this season and gives away.4 free kicks per game which ir is pretty low for a defensive midfielder. So not quite the liability you're making out though obviously there is that aggression to his game, which i like!

James Flynn
16 Posted 01/05/2018 at 00:11:09

Odd this love for Besic.

A few months short of his 26th birthday, he is so far beyond "potential" or "Needs a run of games."

Better to hope Boro makes it up, so we can dump the last three years (Yes, 3 years) of this never-was nor ever-will-be's contract.

John Jennings
18 Posted 16/05/2018 at 20:40:07

Mike and James - absolutely spot on. Besic has found his level at Boro and watching the Championship play-off second leg v Villa was a typical Mo display. Effort, big tackles which relied on a lenient referee and absolutely no quality when it mattered. The fact that he could even be considered good enough to be in an Everton squad shows how low expectations have fallen after this wretched season. And the new gaffer should get rid of Shiterlin as soon as possible.

Andy Crooks
19 Posted 16/05/2018 at 20:44:40

John @ 13 he really should not have chased the umpire.