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Tom Davies could have played his way back into the starting XI with his second-half display at Arsenal
Everton return to the relative comforts of home this weekend looking to put last Saturday's nightmare at the Emirates behind them when they face Crystal Palace.
The run of fixtures between now and the end of the season, which features just two more games against top-six opposition — both at Goodison Park, means that Everton have a large degree of control over how this campaign plays out for them.
They may have slipped to 10th after last weekend's results and the relegation zone might be just seven points below them but home games against Palace Brighton, Newcastle and Southampton provide ample opportunity to get past the 40-point mark without fretting over how poor the Blues have been on their travels over the past year.
Everton sit closer to seventh place than the drop zone coming into this weekend and, almost comically, have a real opportunity with that favourable run-in to finish in the same position they did last year. That seemed almost unthinkable in the depths of October when the club sat in 18th place and it still doesn't seem to make sense given that Sam Allardyce has presided over a run of just one win in eight games.
It represents a target for Everton and if the humiliation suffered at Arsenalwas hugely instructive on how the manager should not be setting up his team, the win over Leicester that preceded it clearly points the way in terms of the line-up and formation he should employ going forward.
Seamus Coleman, Gylfi Sigurdsson and Wayne Rooney were all conspicuous by their omission at the Emirates and are almost guaranteed starters for the visit of Palace. Tom Davies, meanwhile, will hopefully have earned his recall to the starting XI after his energetic display off the bench last weekend.
A midfield trio of Davies, Rooney and Idrissa Gueye sitting behind Sigurdsson would seem to offer the right blend of directness, distribution and tenacity and establish the link between defence and attack that has been sorely lacking at times this season.
In central defence, it would not be surprising to see Phil Jagielka return, probably alongside Michael Keane who had, arguably, his best game for the Blues so far against the Foxes. There are question marks over his marking and positional sense at set-pieces that might make him a risk, however, particularly against a robust side like the Eagles.
Up front, Oumar Niasse has looked more effective as an impact substitute while Dominic Calvert-Lewin made a strong case for another start against Arsenal but Allardyce's apparent preference for the Senegalese striker will likely see him start, with Cenk Tosun having to remain patient for his chance.
Along with Coleman, Theo Walcott will be the one to whom Everton will turn for inspiration, the former Gunner proving to have been a savvy addition to the front line already with an assist and two goals to his name already. He was unfortunate not to score against his old club last Saturday and his pace and eye for goal will be an important weapon for the Blues this weekend.
You can actually get slightly more favourable odds when you bet online using 888 Sport on Walcott to score than Tosun who probably won't even start while Rooney is also backed strongly to find the net at some stage. Cuco Martina is 33/1…
Palace, meanwhile, will be looking to Christian Benteke who scored in this fixture last season, particularly given the fact that their biggest attacking threat, Wilfried Zaha is ruled out through injury. He suffered a knee injury in the Eagles' 1-1 draw with Newcastle United and looks set to be sidelined for the next month.
Roy Hodgson also has Bakary Sako who has six goals to his name this season, four more than Benteke, level with penalty specialist Luka Milivojevic and James McArthur who has five, one of them also against Everton the reverse fixture between these two sides in November. The former England boss can also call upon the unknown quantity of January signing Alexander Sorloth.
Since losing to Arsenal at home on 28th December, Palace have been on a decent run of form, a far cry from their horrendous start which cost Frank de Boer his job before it had really even begun. They've only lost two of their last 12 in the Premier League and have won as many games away from home in that time as Everton have in over a year.
If Allardyce can draw the same kind of performance out of his charges as they produced against Leicester 10 days ago, however, the Blues should have enough to win this one and allow themselves to breathe a little easier again.
Kick-off: 3pm, Saturday, 10 February, 2018
Referee: Jonathan Moss
Last Time: Everton 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Coleman, Jagielka, Keane, Martina, Gueye, Rooney, Davies, Sigurdsson, Walcott, Niasse
Quotes sourced from ToffeeWeb match page
Reader Comments (145)
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2 Posted 08/02/2018 at 19:16:48
I've seen enough of Palace of late to see they look a more lively team than us, they at least create sacks of chances even in the games they lose which is more than you can say of Everton right now.
Zaha will be a loss but Hodgson seems to have them playing as a unit and a togetherness, again which is more than you can say of us right now.
It's another huge game (they all are ) but start poorly on Saturday and go behind in the manner we did against West Brom then the atmosphere will quickly turn toxic.
3 Posted 08/02/2018 at 19:17:52
I would probably play Mangala at left-back in place of Martina simply because of their aerial threat from set pieces.
On paper you are right that we appear to have a relatively easier run-in than some; however, I don't think that means much with us.
As we have seen bottom-half teams are more than capable of beating top half teams. Teams below us need the points more than us and as this squad seem to be overburdened with wimps and a lack of backbone, spirit and fight I wouldn't be surprised to see us dropping as many points to them as everyone else.
The quicker this nightmare finishes the better.
4 Posted 08/02/2018 at 19:22:37
This team is better than anything Palace can muster. We are at home and can attack them. Their best player is injured and the omens are good for a clear win.
3-0 to the blue boys.
5 Posted 08/02/2018 at 19:24:10
7 Posted 08/02/2018 at 19:28:52
8 Posted 08/02/2018 at 19:32:59
Has Garbutt been registered for the rest of the season? He was for our last game in January but haven't heard if that's been continued after the window closed. Surely this would be an ideal game to give him a go.
9 Posted 08/02/2018 at 20:00:43
I think nearly every Evertonian and TW'er knows where the problems lie, but it is inconceivable that, a Manager on ٤M a year can't.
I know he wasn't a popular choice by many, myself included; but any vestige of winning the fanbase over, by achieving results and playing with a modicum of entertainment; has all but evaporated.
Yes, the remaining home games seem winnable, but only coupled with the right team selection. While it is a very dangerous strategy to assume these teams will roll over and surrender.
Staying in the Premier League is massive to a lot of teams; ourselves included, so that extra spur can often supercharge a team, to achieving an unlikely result.
As if we need reminding, the recent results of Swansea, Bournemouth and Watford, is case and point.
10 Posted 08/02/2018 at 20:21:20
11 Posted 08/02/2018 at 20:22:29
12 Posted 08/02/2018 at 20:23:14
I don't think you'll be far off with that lineup, Lyndon, but personally I would not play Keane with Benteke on the horizon. I know it will get criticism but I would play Williams and Jagielka at the back.
I would also give Tosun a starting berth with Niasse available as a sub if we need him.
13 Posted 08/02/2018 at 20:43:41
Only Allardyce can see what is going on because it is his job. I wish he could see what we can see but even then he wouldn't have the integrity to resign.
14 Posted 08/02/2018 at 21:03:46
15 Posted 08/02/2018 at 21:04:33
A 4-4-2 formation of Coleman, Keane, Jagielka and Martina, Walcott, Davies, Rooney, Sigurdsson, Niasse and Calvert-Lewin will give Everton a more solid looking attacking team than the one that played so disastrously against Arsenal last week.
16 Posted 08/02/2018 at 21:56:24
There's no room for failure, but Palace, despite their injuries to their best players, will still fancy their chances.
Roy, still wants to avenge his Derby day bounce.. It still irks him.
Win please, and with style and manner? Please win.
17 Posted 08/02/2018 at 23:07:36
Coleman Holgate Mangala Garbutt
Gueye Sigurdsson
Walcott Tosun Niasse Calvert-Lewin
18 Posted 08/02/2018 at 23:29:02
The key to stopping Palace will be stopping them on the wings and, as ever, our left side is an open invitation. On that basis Bolasie shouldn't really start either. Since we have no defence attack is our only option.
Hope springs eternal and I want to see a Niasse hat trick (including one dubious penalty) melt Woy's face. Especially after his campaign with his FA chums to get our man banned. Send him back to Lahn Dahn with a bus pass and a big bag of Werthers Toffees stuffed where the Sun don't shine. 4-0 please. COYB.
19 Posted 09/02/2018 at 01:29:21
20 Posted 09/02/2018 at 04:33:54
Either we expect this tasteless dross from now on and accept it as the new normal or we demand his ouster in the most vocal way and refuse to be mollified by an isolated win here or a point there.
He MUST go, along with his coterie of coaching minions. My God, he is making me nostalgic for Moyes!
21 Posted 09/02/2018 at 04:34:48
We will lose this game, because we have a bunch of players who don't like to play football just pick up stupid amounts of money..
The only thing you can predict is that most on here will berate Sam no matter what the result is... and rightly so. But I would also point to the board and start giving them the stick they deserve..
22 Posted 09/02/2018 at 05:30:20
23 Posted 09/02/2018 at 06:19:02
Abandon hope all ye who enter here!
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24 Posted 09/02/2018 at 06:21:29
25 Posted 09/02/2018 at 06:24:59
26 Posted 09/02/2018 at 06:35:18
We've sunk to depths we haven't seen for 20 years. Big Sam out !!!!
27 Posted 09/02/2018 at 06:44:58
28 Posted 09/02/2018 at 06:55:01
29 Posted 09/02/2018 at 06:57:33
We do not intimidate anyone. They will be confident of a result. We will defend... as usual.
30 Posted 09/02/2018 at 07:10:19
But I know Sam is going to have 9 men behind the ball to try to grind out for a point.
31 Posted 09/02/2018 at 07:27:26
The bonus for me is the amount of injuries that Palace have to their mediocre offensive players who would have done what everybody now does when they come here: go all out to put pressure on quickly, shut the crowd up (easily done) and generally terrorise our defence in the first 20 minutes, go a goal up and then get 10 behind the ball in a organised fashion and let us chase the game and probably fail miserably!
It's a complicated relationship Everton!
34 Posted 09/02/2018 at 09:14:17
I still consider it shameful that, after a few bad results, there were Evertonians on here actively welcoming this big-mouthed, arrogant crook as our new manager because "he is a pragmatist and will save us from relegation. We certainly won't lose by four or five once he's got hold of the defence."
Remind me how that's going sometime, won't you?
35 Posted 09/02/2018 at 09:26:52
It comes to something when you're relieved that a team fighting relegation have so many injuries. But that's Allardyce for you; spend all your time respecting the opposition and you forget the object of the exercise is to win.
36 Posted 09/02/2018 at 09:40:22
Pickford
Coleman Keane Jagielka Martina
Gueye
Davies Rooney Sigurdsson
Walcott Tosun
37 Posted 09/02/2018 at 09:44:31
But Big Sam is in charge so we will probably end up with 11 defenders selected. Can anyone explain why we turned down loan offers for Jagielka, Williams & Schneiderlin.
Holgate & Keane need to be selected together for this game with Coleman coming back in & Garbutt at left back or Mangala as is more likely at left back.
I would like to see a team of:- Pickford, Coleman, Holgate, Keane, Garbutt, Gueye, Rooney, Davies, Walcott, Tosun, Calvert-Lewin.
Subs of:- Robles, Kenny, Sigurdsson, Niasse, Funes Mori, Vlasic, Bolasie.
But I suppose that is too progressive & bold for Big Sam. So lets look forward to 90 minutes of boring defensive football as is more likely, especially as we are playing at home.
Of course the supporters don't go to football at Goodison nowadays to be entertained, do they? Roll on next season with no Big Sam. We now have between now & the end of the season to line up a proper Manager. Let's hope Moshiri does not make another mistake.
38 Posted 09/02/2018 at 09:57:34
That team should be good enough to win but we must start with energy and fight.
39 Posted 09/02/2018 at 10:28:16
40 Posted 09/02/2018 at 10:48:13
Keeps it interesting I suppose.
41 Posted 09/02/2018 at 11:02:23
I have absolutely no idea on formation or starting 11 and that for me is the problem. We have had different formations and personal changes most weeks, so its not hard to see why we lack consistency.
42 Posted 09/02/2018 at 11:06:22
Remember the poll of shame everyone, remember the poll of shame.
50% of respondents wanted this loser.
That's all he is and all he ever has been.
43 Posted 09/02/2018 at 11:13:12
Of course I am basing that comment on Schneiderlin and the other no-hopers starting.
44 Posted 09/02/2018 at 11:19:52
...but Schneiderlin has been a shithouse and has brought the groundswell of criticism on himself.
If they show the footage of him ushering Mkhitaryan into the box at Finch Farm even Schneiderlin's mum would struggle to defend his pathetic display. He's by no means alone, and I'd say Keane, Williams and Sigurdsson show similar lack of heart.
Dropping any or all of them won't guarantee a win, but playing them this week (and especially Schneiderlin) tells players like Beningime, Davies, Kenny and the U23s that your position is not based on form or merit, but on perceived value and reputation. You couldn't blame them if they followed Lookman and Barkley.
I feel sorry for players such as Coleman, Walcott, Niasse, Rooney, Gueye, Pickford, Kenny, Holgate and Calvert-Lewin who are having to shoulder the work of two men to cover for the passengers in this team.
45 Posted 09/02/2018 at 11:22:59
It's an absolutely vital game. The one good thing is that without Zaha, Palace are demonstrably weaker and quite predictable. However, their confidence will be higher than ours and their manager has a clue, ours hasn't.
46 Posted 09/02/2018 at 11:37:08
Yes, Mangala should start after all, they are paying him a big wage no doubt, so why leave him on the bench.
Nobody has proved themselves at central defence this season but Probably best to start Holgate with him.
Give Martina a rest and start Garbutt with of course Seamus on the other side.
As for midfield it's a lottery but tend to agree Sigurdsson, Rooney, Davies and Gana may be the best ploy with Walcott and Niasse and/or Tosun to start up front.
There isn't much else to choose from and as I said it's how they come out of the blocks that's the important thing.
It's been the biggest single problem this season that they have started most games very lethargically and usually get themselves chasing the game very early on.
47 Posted 09/02/2018 at 11:40:23
I don't think it's fair to label Sigurdsson a passenger. He's been played out of position all season. His natural inclination is to come inside and he runs about more than anyone else.
Not very effectively but that's due to him being stuck on the bloody left wing!
48 Posted 09/02/2018 at 11:47:49
Firstly as a defender Martina is no worse than any of the rest of the team and in my opinion better than most. He certainly puts in his effort, signs on it was his tackle that created the first goal against Leicester.
Like so many others in the team, he is being played out of position but this only shows when he moves forward and needs to cross because he has no left foot for crossing and needs to cut inside which most opposing managers recognise. (Who crossed the ball for Calvert-Lewin's goal against Arsenal?)
I also played full back and know that one needs the support of the forward player in front to help with defensive otherwise you get exposed if the opposition attack in numbers. Same reason for having holding midfielders in front of the two centre-halves.
Sigurdsson is too slow so offers no defensive contribution when we do not have the ball hence Martina exposed. Use Mangala if there is a problem on Saturday and see if a natural left footer offers and improvement. Not the idiotic format adopted on Saturday when nobody knew their job.
I would also like to see Klaassen in there at some stage, most likely off the bench, instead of Davies or Rooney to see what he can bring to the table.
49 Posted 09/02/2018 at 11:51:47
Compare them 1 to 11 against us.
Conclusion?
We are better.
Select a team to play on the front foot and get the first goal.
No excuses if he sets them up for a war of attrition. That will suit them down to the ground.
50 Posted 09/02/2018 at 11:56:51
He is a real gentleman and I have to say I felt (not for the 1st time this season) embarrassed for our club. I never wanted this Oaf as our Manager and will not watch if he starts next season at the helm
He is just an all round low life, However in today's game gentleman rarely win so hopefully we are 3 points closer to safety come Saturday evening.
My mantra is and has always been: Get us 40 points then fuck off!
51 Posted 09/02/2018 at 12:06:34
You've used the terms "Fat Sam" twice, "Woy" once and called Allardyce an oaf and then continued to say that Hodgson is a gentleman.
You've just done what Allardyce did. What does that make you?
52 Posted 09/02/2018 at 12:12:27
Sadly I feel that Sigurdsson is the player that disappoints me the most, because of all of them he's the one I had hopes for. But I'm yet to be convinced by him. I feel that games are played around him.
Sometimes he's like a piggy in the middle, and I struggle to think of a tackle he's made, or a time he lost the ball but chased his opponent down and fought to win it back. I think he loses the ball and just looks back, disappointed.
I get the argument to play him in the middle, but surely a professional midfielder can adapt to slightly wider it's not like he's being asked to play in goal. If he plays at 10 and shows something I'll be happy so I hope you're right but so far I'd pick Rooney before him.
As for the other three, in my opinion Keane is the deer in headlights, Williams an ostrich with his head in the sand, and Schneiderlin some kind of disinterested, heartless sloth...
53 Posted 09/02/2018 at 12:23:33
Simple reply, dude, I am only some guy on a forum, I am not in public life end of story. Your point is not valid, my points about Fat Sam are.
Only other guys on forums will see my post I doubt fat Sam or Roy read this website as much as you/we may like to think so...
There is a separation there, Fat Sam is a low-life greedy clown who drags our club to new lows with him. I didn't and don't want him. If you do, you will look foolish now and in the future.
54 Posted 09/02/2018 at 12:27:23
55 Posted 09/02/2018 at 12:31:53
You are indeed one guy on a forum and Allardyce was just one guy who thought he was having a private conversation. You're knowingly taking part in childish name-calling which you know hundreds of people will read. Allardyce was talking to a couple of people. Which is worse?
In any case, the point I'm trying to make is, why would you call Allardyce "Fat Sam" or call Hodgson "Woy" instead of their actual names? This has nothing to do with either of these men, but to do with you. It's no big deal but I find it odd that grown-ups behave like that, that's all.
56 Posted 09/02/2018 at 12:59:22
I would say your opinions (which you seem to want to keep to yourself) on Fat Sam are Very relevant. Unless of course you spend your days mining football forums for people's perceived lack of manners, in which case ,I don't wish to indulge you in this endeavour.
As stated above, I call Fat Sam, 'Fat Sam' because I have little or no regard for the man and I am in fact just expressing my opinion on a free and open (I think) forum; if that reflects badly on me in your opinion, matters not. I am not the England Manager taking a bribe or slagging off my predecessor. I did use the term "Woy" as to indicate to what I was referring and if I did find out for some reason Roy Hodgson was reading this and saw it, I would, unlike our current moral-less manager, be a man and apologise.
Since you think your opinions on Fat Sam don't matter (I wonder why?), I ask you one thing: Would you prefer some ordinary schmuck on a Toffees website shows ill manners or bad taste? Or would you prefer the current manager of our once great Club be a bribe taker, corrupt, and not be man enough to apologies for either? You need to get things in perspective here, my friend.
Our club keeps stooping to new lows and it's not because of my lack of taste or morals.
I look forward to your answer.
57 Posted 09/02/2018 at 13:02:47
58 Posted 09/02/2018 at 13:15:32
Allardyce said: “Everything we looked at from the club's point of view – and I am not just talking about me and Steve Walsh – I am talking about the whole scouting system and the board, and the algorithm company we use, everything about it said, ‘yes' (Tosun will succeed in England).â€
Algorithm company? Unbelievable, Jeff!
59 Posted 09/02/2018 at 13:19:27
Statements like that will definitely come back to byte you on the arse.
60 Posted 09/02/2018 at 13:22:49
I didn't want Allardyce as manager. I admit that, after the Southampton defeat, I was so worried about relegation that I'd have taken anyone. As it stands, I find him obnoxious and just not very good. I hope he's gotten rid off as soon as we're safe, despite the loss of of whatever it is we'll owe him.
I said my opinion of him mattered not, in my response to your initial post. So wonder no more. There you have my opinion in black and white, nothing to hide, all out in the open.
Back to the point I was actually making. You're expressing your opinion that Allardyce is fat because you don't like him. So, if you liked him, he wouldn't be fat, or you just wouldn't mention it? Why not just criticise him for the reasons you don't like him? What has his physical size got to do with it?
You used "Woy" to indicate who you were talking about. Because nobody would know who you were on about it you'd typed "Roy Hodgson", would they?
Whether I'd prefer a better manager at Everton or for posters to have "better manners" isn't relevant (before you wonder why I won't tell you the answer, it's the former). I wish the war in Syria would end but I also wish Aldi would keep their aisles clear. I can have two wishes, maybe even more.
But you're right, a bit of perspective. I just wonder at the mindset of adults that like to call other adults names, based on their appearance.
Anyway, this pint-sized, beardy-faced leprechaun has to go pick up the wee 'un.
61 Posted 09/02/2018 at 13:24:04
Hot off the press: "Alogrithim Company" ٤ million a year on top of him being a "bad egg".
Your opinion on this please? Or would you prefer to focus on my bad forum ethics? Fat Sam should be our sole focus as fans; as it stands, he will be our manager next season – only the fans can stop this.
I did at the time say that the better the results are, the slimmer he would get.
ps: I find the use of term "leprechaun" offensive as I am Irish (just kiddin of course ) but let's be aware of what people find "offensive" these days. (Where is the line drawn?) I am for free speech and the right to "ignore" what ,you don't like, I am sorry but it's 'Fat Sam' for me if you find that offensive, I am sorry. Perspective please.
pps: You need to go to Aldi late on Sunday all us serial killers shop then and never have to queue... have a good one :)
62 Posted 09/02/2018 at 13:24:29
My cousin is a Saints season ticket holder, he told me about a cartoon that is doing the rounds in Southampton. It shows an ass and a pair of wriggling legs protruding from a dustbin. The caption reads: 'Jurgen Klopp looking for the Van Dijk receipt.'
63 Posted 09/02/2018 at 13:35:49
64 Posted 09/02/2018 at 14:22:14
I've got (in my head) Pickford in nets, obviously; Coleman back in defence with Walcott in front of him, centre three of Rooney next to Gueye.
Sigurdsson in front of them (behind the front three), not sure who to have on the left of the front three (well I do, he's called Ademola Lookman) and I'd give Tosun a start, maybe Calvert-Lewin on the left?
The other defence berths have Holgate at centre with Jagielka or Williams, Kenny at left back or Garbutt.
Tom Davies & Oumar Niasse on the bench, Schneiderlin available to get the kettle on about 5 minutes before the end of the second half.
65 Posted 09/02/2018 at 15:03:35
Normal back four with Coleman on the right.
Gueye behind Sigurdsson left, Davies (in the middle), Rooney right.
Tosun and Walcott up top.
Plenty of legs, passing, pace and power and pretty balanced.
Lots of scope to adapt in game with that personnel also.
66 Posted 09/02/2018 at 15:11:13
I'm not focusing on your bad ethics as such. Your opening comment seemed contradictory to me, to knock a man for insulting another and then to do the same yourself. This discussion is sort of going on on the other thread too by the way.
I don't find you calling Allardyce "Fat Sam" offensive, I find it silly. Plough ahead with it though. I merely brought up the point but you're happy with it so that's fair enough.
And obviously I'm Irish too, hence the leprechaun comment.
67 Posted 09/02/2018 at 15:23:58
68 Posted 09/02/2018 at 15:25:21
But seriously, this is a must win game. I can't see us getting another point away from home in the run in and precious few at home. There are opportunities for 3 points v Palace, Brighton, Newcastle and Southampton which should, if we win them all, see us safe.
We can't afford the likes of Schneiderlin or Williams being given a look in. Accidents waiting to happen. I think Bolasie will have a point to prove so give him a chance. At least he's one of the few who try to take the game to the opposition. With Seamus and Theo down the right as well, there is potential to provide Oumar or Cenk with some decent service.
Let's get on the front foot from the start. It's been the case all too often this season that we've started slowly, lacking confidence and just waiting to go a goal behind before we wake up.
Do we seriously need Algorithms? Nah. Just hard work, passion, belief and a modicum of skill will suffice. Simples.
69 Posted 09/02/2018 at 15:29:22
70 Posted 09/02/2018 at 15:30:31
My point is, as fans, our sole and only focus should be to get to 40 points and do whatever it takes to get rid of Fat Sam. Being the nicest club or fans gets us nowhere.
As I say ,I am a stickler for freedom of speech and the freedom to "ignore" anything you may find mildly offensive. Paddy or no, there are actually people out there who would be offended by the 'leprechaun' comment (even on your behalf) that's the way things are going nowadays so I will stick with Fat Sam as I feel (although I will admit in a petty way) it shows just enough the disdain that I have for him.
I am 15© stone btw :) ... but I wear it well :)
All the best
71 Posted 09/02/2018 at 15:31:23
Sam Allardyce mocked him when he was caught in the sting that cost him the England job and Roy was asked very recently if he had received an apology. He said that he hadn't and anyway it was too late now to get one.
Allardyce also stated recently that he did not get on with Roy like he used too! Whatever you think of Roy Hodgson, I personally have always thought him a gentleman and the negativity that has prevailed with me these past 6 months since the start of the season makes me conclude that this will not go our way.
72 Posted 09/02/2018 at 16:10:51
Fat Sam isn't really that fat. Rhino is way fatter but nobody calls him Fat Dave. They call him Rhino. Rhino's aren't even fat so it's a shit nickname for a fat bloke.
John@60, I see what you did there.
73 Posted 09/02/2018 at 16:22:45
What next? Eileen Drewery? Doris Stokes even!
74 Posted 09/02/2018 at 16:33:17
I am 5'-10" and my 15 stones is worn very well indeed (hint no stripey shirts).
Regards Rhino, he did get the nickname during his playing days and for good reason. You have hit the nail on the head, btw: nobody calls Rhino 'fat' cause nobody thinks he is a corrupt cunt who is lowering the standards at our club every time he opens his mouth :) hence the pet name Rhino. :)
Speaking of comparisons, would Rhino have been given the axe had he overseen such a shambolic mess as at Emirates? Not to mention the appalling and cowardly performances at Bournemouth and West Brom at Xmas etc etc?
Now to get the misses to yank me corset (not a double-entendre) before I head out
75 Posted 09/02/2018 at 16:34:30
Garbutt (LB)
Keane (CD)
Jagielka (CD)
Coleman (RB)
Davies (defensive mid)
Rooney (deep lying pulling strings next to Davies)
Walcott (RM)
Bolasie (LM), maybe he might rise to it being against his old club?
Sigurdsson Number 10 (Yesss, actually in the Number 10)
Tosun (CF)
Is it really asking that much to field that team tomorrow?
76 Posted 09/02/2018 at 16:38:37
Let's see him and what he can do over the next 5 games and if there's still not much improvement then fair enough take him back out the side but there's only one way of finding out and that's at least 5 successive 90 minutes for him to sweat it out and show us his worth.
77 Posted 09/02/2018 at 16:42:44
Anyone with access to see Leipzig play tonight, sit back and enjoy Mola rip Augsburg apart; thanks you useless twat for not playing him.
78 Posted 09/02/2018 at 16:46:33
79 Posted 09/02/2018 at 16:59:06
Europa League qualifier? Don't delude yourself. We're well and truly in a dogfight here just to stay up.
80 Posted 09/02/2018 at 17:24:47
Pickford
Coleman Holgate Jagielka Garbutt
Gueye Rooney Davies
Sigurdsson
Tosun Walcott
Subs: Robles, Mangala, Klaassen, Baningime, Niasse, Bolasie, Calvert-Lewin
81 Posted 09/02/2018 at 17:28:26
I just can't see us finishing 7th.
We don't win enough games whilst others around us seem to pull out unexpected victories, Watford and Bournemouth over Chelsea, Burnley eek out wins and Leicester seem to be able to do the same.
Our away form has held us back woeful for over a year now, we have recorded ONE away win from the last TWENTY.
It's hard to see more than 42 points, that's not going to get us any better than mid to bottom.
Bear in mind too that Everton usually down tools and get the deck chairs out for the last four games of the season and results take a downward spiral even in decent seasons.
My bet is once 39-40 points is reached that's when our season finishes.
82 Posted 09/02/2018 at 17:43:54
83 Posted 09/02/2018 at 17:45:46
Why? Because in Fat Sam's “A team against teams we can beat, B team against the Big Boys†rotation policy, we are playing a team below us and hence will set up somewhat appropriately.
Lyndon's starting midfield is what I'd like to see and think is probable. If it's Gueye, Rooney, Davies, and Gylfi we will win.
If Sam has his B team set up, we lose.
And the few remaining Sam happy-clappers will come out smiling and saying we need to be more patient if he starts that midfield and gets the win.
Not me. He has to go soon.
Snake oil salesman.
84 Posted 09/02/2018 at 19:04:30
85 Posted 09/02/2018 at 19:14:15
86 Posted 09/02/2018 at 19:18:10
He's not in the team.
87 Posted 09/02/2018 at 19:19:21
Grasping at straws comes to mind.
88 Posted 09/02/2018 at 19:27:06
Coleman, Jagielka, Mangala, Garbutt
Davies, Gueye, Rooney,
Walcott, Tosun, Sigurdsson
89 Posted 09/02/2018 at 19:30:30
90 Posted 09/02/2018 at 19:43:42
91 Posted 09/02/2018 at 20:02:40
7/5 for a draw? It's widely on offer at 9/4. You may have backed the win. That's generally available on Odds Checker at around 7/5.
Check your bet lad, you may have placed a different bet than the one you intended. You wouldn't be the first!
92 Posted 09/02/2018 at 20:07:03
https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/everton-v-crystal-palace/winner
93 Posted 09/02/2018 at 20:14:48
94 Posted 09/02/2018 at 20:19:30
95 Posted 09/02/2018 at 20:58:37
Pickford, Coleman, Keane, Mangala, Martina, Rooney, Gueye, Davies,Â
Walcott, Niasse, Sigurdsson.
96 Posted 09/02/2018 at 21:11:41
My little Godson hates me, because when he's all excited trying to tell me the team, I'm screaming for him to shut up or I will turn the car round and go home.
97 Posted 09/02/2018 at 21:11:50
98 Posted 09/02/2018 at 21:12:46
99 Posted 09/02/2018 at 21:18:38
Pickford
Coleman Keane Mangala Martina
Rooney Gueye Davies Walcott Sigurdsson
Niasse
100 Posted 09/02/2018 at 21:22:03
101 Posted 09/02/2018 at 21:25:37
102 Posted 09/02/2018 at 21:33:50
103 Posted 09/02/2018 at 21:39:30
The team was published in the papers, and the only changes made were enforced, [injuries etc,] so much for Shankly's "The same as last year"...
106 Posted 09/02/2018 at 21:45:08
By the way, I hope your team do get the nod, as it looks more positive, than what we have been used to (unfortunately) seeing.
This is a winnable game, their main danger men are sidelined due to injury, but still not to be taken out of context.
Let's get safe, and start to think who we really want as manager, for next season and beyond!
107 Posted 09/02/2018 at 21:48:34
If we going pick up on everyone little word like "algorithm" and turn it in a beating stick on the current manager then I would seriously suggest taking a chill pill.
In my opinion this has been a good time to test out players and formations against the team way above us if we win it is a bonus if we get beat well when the last time we got a result against at Arsenal. The disappointment for me is the lack of effort by some players. Next season though I won't except not having a go at the top six. I expect in the next 6 games we will see a more consistent team as play teams around us.
For me this season is written off in terms of Europe and we are out of the cups. Staying up and getting things sorted out for next year is the more important. Sam will be here next season whether we like it or not. Like I said I think he will get it right but I can also understand the frustration felt by many.
BTW Just watched RB Leipzig play Augsberg what a load of rubbish, not a single tackle in the game. It was like watching a training game. Lookman came on for the last 10 mins. God forbid our game ends up like the Bundesliga.
108 Posted 09/02/2018 at 21:53:24
Spot on about the 'extra' negativity about Martina.
The Leicester game was our best team performance in a long while.
I hope for more of the same tomorrow.
109 Posted 09/02/2018 at 21:58:27
112 Posted 09/02/2018 at 22:27:56
Providing there is no illness, the team that has been preparing all week will be finalised on Thursday.
113 Posted 09/02/2018 at 23:10:11
COYB.
114 Posted 09/02/2018 at 23:18:31
115 Posted 09/02/2018 at 23:30:08
Seriously mate, if what you're saying is true, then you must be getting your information from someone within the club, and this person needs to be identified ASAP.
As daft as this may sound, but this information could easily land in the hands of the opposition, who can then pick their team, line up, etc, to put a team out to beat us (although at the moment this is not too difficult to do).
I have never heard of any team manager announcing their team until an hour before kick off. If the team you have announced on here is the team selected for tomorrow, then seriously mate, you need to take steps to inform the club that there is a mole within the cub.
116 Posted 10/02/2018 at 06:30:43
Coleman Jagielka Keane Garbutt
Idrissa Davies
Walcott Rooney Sigurdsson
Niasse
Subs: Robles, Mangala, Kenny, Klaassen, Bolasie, Calvert-Lewin, Tosun
Start off a solid base introduce Klaassen, Bolasie, Tosun and/or Calvert-Lewin if we need a bit more going forward. And Mangala if we need to shore up after a 2-goal lead.
Martina needs a break & Garbutt deserves a chance.
117 Posted 10/02/2018 at 07:51:04
118 Posted 10/02/2018 at 08:20:09
I say that, because Palace always seem to do well against us, (who doesn't recently) a win is a must, only 4 points between us and them.
119 Posted 10/02/2018 at 08:20:52
Why does Garbutt deserve a chance? He's been out on loan to Championship clubs for god knows how long now and hasn't made an impression whatsoever. So why do you think he'd walk into the side now and make an instant impression? He's not playing for a reason: he's not that good.
This Martina bashing is getting on my nerves He's been no better nor worse than the trash around him but it seems he's an easy target. Give it a rest, it's getting tedious.
120 Posted 10/02/2018 at 08:20:52
1. The team posted by him for Arsenal was 100pc correct and could not have been a lucky guess.
2. If he turns out to be right on this occassion as well, this is the first time I can remember any team having their line up leaked so many times. I get my information from public sources. It shows the public and reckless nature of the leak.
Either someone within the club is doing their best to undermine the team, or there is just gross incompetence and a lack of care from whoever it is doing this.
To be clear, no blame should be directed at Eric Paul he is only a messenger but I am staggered at how unprofessional we have become that there are people with access to information who are dishing it out.
121 Posted 10/02/2018 at 09:06:26
Cosmic grooves from New Brighton to all Blues everywhere - - this is our Club not Allardyche's - - he is merely milking us for his retirement fund for a while - - wont be long now.
122 Posted 10/02/2018 at 09:13:35
Get well soon lad.
123 Posted 10/02/2018 at 09:16:55
So I would stick with Martina. He may be a little limited going forward, but he has stuck manfully to the task in awkward circumstances.
I must add my voice to those who think Schneiderlin should not even get on the bench. He is a shadow of the dynamic midfielder I watched at Saints a few years back. A player seemingly lacking motivation, energy and bite.
Hopefully, the return of our talisman Seamus and the inclusion of Davies from the start, will give us more drive and aggression. I also want to see Tosun start the game to see if his good movement and touch can be the link for the likes of Walcott to create some chances.
I would keep the human battering ram Niasse on the bench until the final quarter and use him against the tiring defence.
A win is expected but I wouldn't be surprised if we have to settle for a point as Palace are no mugs and Hodgson will have done his homework.
Our defence are always likely to cough-up a goal so the onus is to bang-in 2 or 3 before the usual calamity, and twenty minutes of hanging-on.
Let's hope for that much needed win, to ease the pressure and give the team some confidence.
124 Posted 10/02/2018 at 09:21:39
It's a critical time for our club and the last thing we want is team selections being leaked, resulting in advantage to opponents.
If he's bang on the money again, there needs to be an internal inquest to get to the bottom of it and shut it down.
125 Posted 10/02/2018 at 09:34:18
126 Posted 10/02/2018 at 09:42:20
This would be the ideal game to give Tosun a run out, how the lad is going to benefit from being benched, or not picked, is beyond me.
The early team indicators are looking like an attacking formation, which would suit his style of play. Why pay the money we have done (which is not inconsiderable) then proceed to have him sit there watching, besides his confidence is not going to improve from the bench or the stands.
127 Posted 10/02/2018 at 09:50:04
George, I know you are rough, so I will put your bet on for you mate. Its about time this team stepped up to the plate, because usually your posts are the only thing worth looking forward to on a Saturday.
I'm also thinking about the West Country blues, and every other Evertonian, who has got far to travel on this horrible day. As for the mole, my money would have to be on Snides!
128 Posted 10/02/2018 at 10:00:57
129 Posted 10/02/2018 at 10:19:32
That's enough from me today - -knackered - - best wishes to you all - - - Up The Blues and Cosmic Blue Grooves.
130 Posted 10/02/2018 at 10:21:25
Press this button George it's not cosmic but it always makes me feel better.
131 Posted 10/02/2018 at 10:25:33
So be it !
132 Posted 10/02/2018 at 10:38:46
Get well soon.
133 Posted 10/02/2018 at 11:34:21
134 Posted 10/02/2018 at 11:38:43
A decent performance, a few goals, another great game from Seamus. Oh, and dare I say it, an Everton win at the end of all that.
135 Posted 10/02/2018 at 11:40:35
The posters at 96 and 100 have team.
No Tosun again.
136 Posted 10/02/2018 at 12:07:17
137 Posted 10/02/2018 at 12:16:47
We should never start Schneiderlin again as he has no discipline and doesn't know how to make the right decisions. Tom Davies should start and he should be able to play freely with Gana behind as Tom Davies leaves a big gap in the midfield; therefore Gana can just sit and break up the play.
Niasse should start maybe alongside Tosun with Sigurdsson behind. The wingers should be Bolasie and Walcott with Vlasic on the bench for backup. Jagielka and Keane should play at the back as some of Mangala's mistakes cost us heavily against Arsenal.
Coleman at right back and Luke Garbutt at left back. They can bomb forward as well as defend hope for a good result. COYB
138 Posted 10/02/2018 at 12:47:41
Best wishes George, have a couple of nice hot toddies to keep you warm, looking forward to your next post.
139 Posted 10/02/2018 at 13:04:51
140 Posted 10/02/2018 at 13:05:21
Palace will play with a lot of energy and we need to start the same for once. Hopefully no sign of Schneiderlin today, been a long time since one player was so unanimously disliked and it is plain for all to see why this is.
Fancy Theo, Tosun and Coleman to get on the scoresheet today so will probably get beat 4-3!
COYB, give us a good one please, only watched MOTD once in2 months
141 Posted 10/02/2018 at 13:26:42
142 Posted 10/02/2018 at 13:31:20
143 Posted 10/02/2018 at 13:36:07
144 Posted 10/02/2018 at 13:54:36
We know mate.
Hope it goes soon
145 Posted 10/02/2018 at 14:01:51
Pickford, Coleman, Keane, Mangala, Martina, Gueye, Davies, Rooney, Sigurdsson, Walcott, Niasse
146 Posted 10/02/2018 at 14:06:28
147 Posted 10/02/2018 at 14:09:38
148 Posted 10/02/2018 at 14:14:15
Let's hope that Keane and Mangala can forge a formidable partnership (as unlikely as it sounds, I'm trying to be positive). We need to be solid and patient today, but we MUST have a proper go at them!
Press like we did against Leiscester and hope the chances fall to Walcott.
149 Posted 10/02/2018 at 14:16:41
A whole group of people backing 4-0. Lets hope this is one of those rare days when we all end up happy AND the bookies take a bashing.
I'll be leaving in about 20 minutes, I wont be having a bevy either Mc Donalds for err . . .the little fella, but being an Hillman Minx. I wont be weighing the team down under the burden of my bet Good luck to those who do have a go
I'm a nervous wreck. We have to win today
[BRZ]
150 Posted 10/02/2018 at 14:23:40
That cannot be down to lucking out and pure guess work, given the wide-ranging changes between each game.
Absolutely NO BLAME being directed at Eric who apparently has very well-informed sources at Finch Farm, but I add my own voice of concern expressed by others that such sensitive information is being so easily leaked to the public, so far in advance.
The mole needs digging out.
151 Posted 10/02/2018 at 14:48:29
George, get the old mix tape out...Van, Dylan, Neil Young you'll soon pick up!
152 Posted 10/02/2018 at 22:11:09
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1 Posted 08/02/2018 at 19:12:15
Play a back 4. Martina, Keane, Williams, Coleman. Gueye in front on them, protecting the back 4. Rooney and Sigurdsson ahead to complete the midfield 3. A front 3 of Bolasie (reluctantly), Tosun, Walcott. Sorted. 4-3-3. You're welcome Sam.