Davies breaks Saints hearts with equaliser at the death

Have any of our players broken into a sweat in that first half?

A totally undeserved equaliser.

And it looks like the 'walk of appreciation' is going to be acted out only in front of the match stewards.

Thought the camera shot of the NSNO lettering in the family enclosure summed up our status quo damaged beyond repair.

I am going to sell them as Everton's Highlights 2017-18

I feel our fan base has become so placid and fed shit by the
Owners (and the like below them) I reckon they feel they don't have the right to complain.

Not having a pop at anyone, but if more protests don't pick up more pace, we are fucked, they in charge will do what they always have, and will accept that they will think we (the fans) will accept the status quo. (They don't think that, they know it-loyalty.)

We mock kopite behaviour, they don't accept it, it's become par for the course for us lot due to filtered propaganda by the club, yes, the owners of the same club you've always supported.

There is a overdue uprising, one that has already started in earnest. If your happy with the current situation, good for you, if your not and I quote “The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing”, if we do nothing, accept more of the same.

I'll get on board and help out in anyway I can.

Is anyone on here a revolutionist? Or has a plan? because I'm sure most think the same, but don't know how to start it. Maybe a leader is needed?

Maybe Sam will get the boot after this season, if he don't,( and I'm getting more worried by the day ), then the time for action is then, made even harder by the close season.

It's not easy, but I'd love to see someone's else's face on a t-shirt other than Che!!!!

Why can you not understand that!

Roberto was the emporers clothes

Koeman living on his player reputation took us back 5 years.

Sam is Sam and specialises in dishing up shit sandwiches for fans to eat.

We have to move on, I am not even bothered who we get.

I was watching with interest to see just how many chose to leave on the 78th minute. Not an awful lot from what I could see.

What those remaining chose to do at the time was to be very scouse and direct: burst into a raucous chorus of 'Fuck off, Sam Allardyce, Fuck off, Sam Allardyce...'

This was the HOME crowd, remember, not our hardcore away fans who have been more vocal on this front.

I thought by game's end, even before our thoroughly undeserved equaliser, there were many, MANY more empty spaces.

I'd be interested to know if, as I pondered in an earlier post, the 'walk of appreciation' was played out in front of the match stewards only, with only very few fans staying behind.

This report in the Telegraph suggests it was:

Link

An extract: "Everton had been dreadful, their manager bombarded with chants of “f--- off Sam Allardyce” and the stadium all but empty for the post-match lap of appreciation to mark the last home game of the season. When they did eventually come out post-match, there was no sign of their manager.

Any one able to cast light on the post-match walkabout..?

It's bad enough going to such a dilapidated stadium to watch Everton, but the slow disgusting football is shameful and embarrassing to be associated with when our neighbours slay teams for fun. Gonna get even better when they win the CL.

I left on 78 mins also.

If the ground was near empty at the final whistle then that is indeed a statement when it is the last home game but not convinced it is enough to make a difference. Like many others have already stated I think the cast has already been set - we will see.

On another note, Alex Ferguson is in hospital with a brain haemorrhage. I'm not is biggest fan, but I do hope he pulls through.

Klassen brought on in the dying embers of the game and played predominently out wide. Truly awful stuff. Simply can't bear to watch any more of this crap and to cap it all, the sight of Sam and his backroom staff in a state of euphoria celebrating the equaliser like they'd just won the Champions League final was simply embarrassing, perhaps they'd all thought they'd just managed to secure extensions to their existing contracts.

God help us next season, me personally I have had enough of this dirge.

The probabilty is that we will be having the same conversation after the end of next season whoever is manager.

Had he signed a 6 month contract I'd actually take this position - We were a shambles that looked like were heading towards a relegation battle. Big Sam's got us to 8th which all things considered hasn't been too bad. The footballs been gash to watch but he came in and probably overachieved because I never thought we'd finish 8th when he got the job.

Unfortunately that's not the case and a lot of good will he would have received had it been a short appointment has gone out of the window because he insisted on a longer contract going into next season. Sorry Sam, but we can't endure another 7th/8th finish watching that brand of anti football. Thanks, but your time is up.

Just a mention for Yannick Bolasie. Again his positional sense was woeful. I get the impression that the few moments of magic (few and far between) this guy produces are just down to luck because his technique and style of play is unconventional to say the least. You'd hope we could recoup 㾶m, but who would buy him?! Lookman bagged a brace today but BS will always pick Bolasie because of his fee and seniority. Beggars beyond belief!

It's going to take a lot more than just a new manager and pissing away 40 million on a few players to change the mentality of this club.

We need a brave bold new plan and a transfer window that sees sensible investment on quality players that have still never been replaced like Arteta, Cahill, Pienaar even Fellaini (not that I'd have him back but just using it as an example)

We don't have a midfielder that can put their foot on the ball and find a pass.

We don't have a striker capable of successfully playing up front alone.

We are useless on the wings, Theo Walcott exempted.

We can't keep dragging out Jagielka, Baines and expecting them to roll back the years.

Over to you Moshiri!

It would take a lot of transfer activity (including management) in the summer to make me interested in next season, but I can't say I'm confident.

Aren't football commentators useless? All Hargreaves did was grunt obvious comments occasionally and Hoddle went on and on about too much time added, when the Southampton injury took over a minute, and the foul on Coleman 40 seconds before Tom's minutes. Why are they so much worse than any other sport?

Mr Moshiri will be going to the cash point every day this week with all of his cards. He will be getting as much wongo out as he can to pay the big man off.

Get ready for the announcement after the West Ham game. A new dawn awaits.

Changes nothing, of course. How Moshiri could watch that dross and deem it an acceptable performance - in the home finale, no less - is beyond me.

(speaking of the final whistle, I imagine Southampton will be screaming bloody murder about the ref not blowing it, but that's what you get for having one of your players writhe around for two minutes, pretending he's hurt)

Any of Fonseca, Wenger (and Arteta number 2) Silva or Howe would excite me more than watching this tosh we have witnessed for almost 12 months now.

Whoever comes in needs to have the fans patience, and to be allowed to make and learn from his mistakes though.

Spot on

I, too, won't set foot in Goodison until Kenwright leaves

Separately, and I have no inside knowledge, but I strongly suspect the fans are being strung along on the supposed new ground
Precedence suggests there is no new ground

The blame for this season simply goes to the Chairman who as a supporter must have been fully aware of what to expect by signing Allardyce., followed by the owner who must have agreed to the firing of the previous manager without having a backup ready.

Instead of the progress we expected this season we have gone backwards in both the playing and management of the club that will take a tremendous amount of dedicated personnel to change it around.

If the d.f.o. from Belgium does come in, he and the owner hopefully have a new manager ready to come in, otherwise we are going to struggle before the season even starts.

If the present manager starts next season this is another demonstration that the Owner and Chairman have no interest in their loyal supporters opinions, and will be happy for a mid table position until the new stadium is built ( if ever ).

A new manager will not guarantee anything: look at our track record. They'll struggle to get anyone decent. Koeman was supposed to be the one and look at him. I see the ground emptied very quickly again. Moshiri must wonder what the hell he's taken on. He's lost the support as well but our fans have always been like that.

It's crossed my mind that the commonwealth games going to Brum could have big repercussions for us further down the line. We have form for counting on other people to realise our plans. Tbh, I really don't understand why Brum got the games. I seem to remember them having it in the late 80's. You would have thought that the panel who decides would be looking for a greater legacy from it, much like City had with Eastlands, which is now the Etihad stadium. We've had this stadium issue for well over 20 years now and it's getting really old.

Of course I could be wrong, but I'm struggling to see who is going to put the money up for things like infrastructure around BMD when the council are meant to be giving us a loan.

I have backed up each of those points with evidence but I'll do it again for you:
He has never won anything as a coach, his win ratio is abysmal and he has produced dire football at our club.Do you accept that?

He was sacked by England for reasons which called his integrity into question. His comments about Roy Hodgson also call his integrity into question. Do you accept that?

He is, by his own admission motivated by money, eg, his resentment that he drove a Morris Marina while other players, (better players, by the way) drove Jags. Do you accept that?

Just plucking an example out of the air, but say I called Ronnie Biggs are robber, not a nice thing to call anyone, would you describe it as a personal insult?

I have been relentless in my disdain for Allardyce but there have been no personal insults, no comments about things over which he has no control. So, I am disappointed that you have chosen to name me in a thread which I have not commented on.
I thought todays performance was one of the worst I have ever seen, I thought his performance as coach was appalling and I think it is shameful that this man without integrity remains employed by our club..Now, you may see these as personal attacks on him, Gavin, I do not.

As a business project, as long as we stay in the Premier League, bringx through some good youngsters we can offload, and our loyal supporters financially support and bleed Everton blue, things will never change. Unfortunately, Everton supporters are too loyal to command change as witnessed by the planned walkout.

Don't think many fans were interested in protesting, if they knew about the planned protest, I stood up in the eighteenth minute, turned my back to the pitch, what a relief that was,had a good look round, looked like I was the only standing from what I saw, hope I was wrong.In the seventy eight minute got up to go, Steve a fan I know in the row behind me got up as well, seemed to be plenty of fans smiling at us, but staying where they were, met another fan I knew, he said he wasn't going out because of the protest he was just fuckin' fed up with the whole club, another fella was effing and blinding at the top of the stairs going down, he looked like he'd been there since half time, frothing at the mouth, looked like he had finally snapped and Everton and Allardyce were to blame.

To be honest I'd made my point so I went back in to the Street End and watched the rest of the game from there, Allardyce getting loads from that end, butvto be honest the crowd were roaring Everton to get the equaliser they didn't deserve.

I mudt admit The Street End Crowd seemed a lot more hostile to Allardyce than those I spoke to in The Upper Bullens,really surprised me tge way some were talking about him, don't get me wrong, theybstill didn't want him but were worried about who would replace him.

Anyway back to the game, I think it is just best to forget about it along with most of the performances this season no matter who was in charge.

In life there's a limit to wasting life and accepting garbage as normal.

Far from me to say but this season EFC, has really sunk, and for me bar a miracle, there's no easy way back, as we are as a board, leaderless.

Say it as it is, we are light years and more behind,, it's like building prefabs and proper foundations.

Just hoping in a few weeks time we have Silva, Brands and Lookman to look forward to next season rather than more of today.

I don't want a whole new team but I want a manager who can coach this current lot to play to the best of their ability in a team that at least ocassionally plays something approaching good football.

I want to see a player of the ilk of Wilfried Zaha, Xerdan Shaqiri, someone who can run with the ball and see a pass.

Until we get players or a player of this ilk we will always struggle to both create and score enough goals.

Not for me.

Don't get me wrong he's done ok but he's not twice the player of Shaqiri not in a million years .

As for the Barkley comparisons, well I think Ross Barkley would have probably walked into this current Everton side.

Leipzig will be begging him to move there, we need to be firmly saying no go whilst telling the young man he is a big part of our future.

Bolasie will be his understudy or be sold.

If the EFC teams had the same application and guts.

So if you want to support Everton next season, hold your nose because it's going to be a sticker.

I won't even comment on tonight's drivel.

Going for a win -double in the European finals, with my Money, on the Madrid teams.

Let's beat West Ham, and then, as a club stay, strong.

The PR machine is so well oiled he puts Donny J in the shade.

They ripped Allardyce. Earle at one point said, "This is Everton Football Club!" in desperation. He might as well thrown in a "for fuck's sake" at the end of it. He was exceedingly critical of Sam and the tactics. He and Martino lamented the fact we never once looked like having a go. Martino actually mentioned how supporters are completely disillusioned with Sam and this was his chance to have a go and open up a bit; only to revert to type.

Some commentators see it. They just work for an American broadcaster.

I'm over it all. I'm disgusted. Meanwhile my wife is reading the Burnley boards loving how her Clarets are in Europe thanks to us.

Honest to God if we don't fire this man who's ruined the joy of football itself for us, then fuck it. We deserve what we get.

If Sam isn't gone on May 14th, and God forbid if he's here start of next season, I fear for our Club. We won't get relegated - Sam has his ways of getting just enough points to stay up. But we will sink further into the abyss of mid-table mediocrity. A nothing Club with nothing to hope and aspire to.

He sucks the life out you I swear.

I literally hate this man. He's ripped the soul out of something I love.

And that is unforgivable.

No longer deemed attractive enough to decent coaches to take the job, not quite crap enough to go down and experience a spiritual rebirth with a winning season in the championship.

Plum stuck in the middle, with no redeeming features, saddled with a manager and potentially a shareholder who revel in the nonentity we are.

Shamefully we are an irrelevance as far as any national media goes, a poor last in the north west and second in our own city.

Stick a fork in the club, it's done.

It need miracles, not one but many, to save this club. I can't see how the hell we c@n attract top notch players let alone a top class proven winning manager.

There's no fighting mentality in the board, and no doubt 85h plac3 will be lauded as a successful season.

For me the worst of seasons in my time is about to close, next week.
Where the club goes, who knows.

Allardyce should apologise and take responsibilty for his own decisions and not blame the players.

Moshri watched the game, and should act now to stop this mess getting any worse for the fans, and means boardroom changes and a change of manager.

Do we keep him for guaranteed safety every season and rip up our motto or do we go for a footballing coach with no guarantees and hope that we have the financial clout that we think we have?

It's a no-brainer. Taxi for Sam.

The negative brand of football isn't on, but the sheer number of unavailable players has restricted us being able to do anything.

Cut the numbers and up the quality is key this summer.

Everton have a squad of average players basically comprised of some big names who had their best times at other clubs, some journeymen past their prime and a bunch of youngsters who have not yet pushed on from last season.

Add to all this a journeyman manager just content to pick up his paycheck until retirement and we have a lukewarm product.

If we're going to replace the second-rate Allardyce (39% win rate for us this season, 34% over his entire PL career), let's aim for better not worse.

No more losers at Everton.

If you are saying 8th place is some kind of achievement with this squad of players then you need to put into context who finished above us this season - Burnley. I look at their squad and scratch my head as to the number of players we would take. Chris Wood, Tarkowski and Pope at a stretch.

I watched a very average Brighton team attack and beat United and a re-invigorated West Brom outdo Tottenham: two teams who completely outplayed us under Allardyce's watch. Even woeful Stoke got a point at Anfield when they put their back into it and had first half chances to have won the game.

There is absolutely no excuse for Russian-roulette, safety first football when this league has shown that a good balance between defence and attack can yield good results even if your squad is average.

I agree, it's far too simplistic. I mean, Allardyce's win rate was achieved at top clubs like Bolton, Blackburn and Sunderland, so you can't possibly compare it with Silva.

Like I say, let's fuck off Allardyce, but if people on here are going to slag him off for his career record, I'm not sure why they're touting SIlva or Howe as a replacement.

Nil Satis etc.

Sunday Express - Bruce Archer
Such was the level of discontent at Sam Allardyce's short reign there were reports of an organised protest taking place.

But fans did not heed the request of a pre-match printed flyer asking them to turn their backs to the pitch in the 18th minute or leave in the 78th (the relevance being 1878 was the year of the club's formation).

However, with 10 minutes to go a brief chant of "F**k off Sam Allardyce" rose up from the Gwladys Street End.

This extract is from the BBC website

Those hoping this would be the last time Allardyce was in the home dug-out distributed leaflets calling for a "peaceful protest" beforehand, aimed to signal they will not "robotically accept the dross served up".

While few, if any, turned their back on this lacklustre game as suggested, there were boos at half-time following an abject first 45 minutes with only three shots on target in total.

Seems it wasn't a totally wasted effort after all. Let's just hope this gets back to some of the board members?

If Evertonians were promised 8th place in the dark days when Southampton beat Everton 4:1 in October, they would have bit your hands off. Now they have 8th place, they are still complaining about not good enough football played when the same squad of players were in pole position to have Everton relegated last October.

News everyone. We are not a serious football club. Everyone on the board wants to be viewed as philanthropists, instead of running a ruthless, winning business.

And let's be honest with ourselves, how many times have you read on these very pages how proud people are about our charitable exploits? This post will be followed by a poster saying the exact same thing. WE ARE A FOOTBALL CLUB, NOT A FUCKING CHARIDEE.

I go to the game to watch sport, I can donate to thousands of good causes with the press of a button. They are kidding the bollocks off everyone. When this regime is questioned, they hide behind EiTC. Don't be fooled, this hasnt occurred by chance, or goodwill. They are very aware that charidee is a fantastic method of covering their incompetence and greed. Even the fans are in a footballing coma. Docile. Myself included. I've forgotten what the game is all about.

I used to donate quite a lot of money to EitC until I began to question how some of this money is used. I was particularly suspicious of the mutual back scratching that goes on between this charity and Hope University. It seems that it is imperative to pay Hope to evaluate all the good work of EitC, and any award of a “professorship “ by Hope to the head of EitC was purely coincidental.

Separate the charity from the core business. Sure, there is a place for the charity but when that place moved into the small ante room next to Robert Elstone's (previously the head of EitC was located with the rest of the staff in an office in Gwladys St), and then the CEO was persuaded to knock a wall down to make that ante room bigger and his office smaller you do have to wonder who's running the show. Decent bloke that he is, Robert never knew what was happening.

Its more of the same I fear, because our squad is a million miles off the quality we need to breach the top 4.
Yesterdays performance was embarrassing in its incompetence.

Or bust a fucking bollock playing 6/7 games & have a day out at Wembley lifting a Trophy !!!!!!!!.

No fucking brainer...jeez,I need a drink !.

Wrong on 2 counts:

1- Not all Evertonians thought we were destined for relegation. Quite a few felt that we would move up the table once we got a few home games against weaker opposition under our belt. The stats proved it: Koeman won 2 of his 3 home games against the teams outside the top 6, ie Stoke and Bournemouth (lost to Burnley). Unsy won against Watford and West Ham. Indeed, Allardyce's home form continued this trend: no wins against the top 6 at home, which yielded 2 out of a possible 10 points.

2. You make out as if Allardyce's critics are operating with the benefit of hindsight. Infact, many Evertonians were using foresight. The polls run in the lead up to Allardyce's appointment had so many dead set against his appointment. They knew what he would bring to the table and they have been proven right: a disgraceful brand of football coupled with a series of missed opportunities for us to win more than the 9 league games Allardyce has managed to win so far.

Your initial argument was that 8th was a good achievement considering our squad. It patently ignored Burnley's performances with an inferior squad.

Now you shift it to "well we were so much in the dwang it was an achievement".

You again ignored a few facts.

A few further points to consider. Seamus Coleman's return has made a huge difference. Prior to his return against Leicester, we were on an 8 match winless streak under Allardyce.

The January window also saw the squad strengthened with Tosun and Walcott's arrival. Both have chipped in with goals and assists worth 15 points.

After early January we were playing one game a week, having played 11 cup games (one third of total fixtures) before Xmas.

A fresher squad has turned out turgid performances and failed to beat sides with inferior squads such as West Brom (twice), Swansea, Bournemouth, Watford, Southampton and Burnley.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/everton/11337745/Everton-are-a-shining-beacon-for-football-as-a-force-for-good-in-the-community.html

I suspected your calls for action were not going to reach enough people to make a massive difference, but I applaud your efforts and I have no doubt they were not in vane. A lot of people who were unaware of any organised protest, will be aware now.

You didn't lose the battle guys. You just started it

News of the Planned protest seems to have reached one of the national newspapers, as well as the BBC sport website

Sunday Express - Bruce Archer

Such was the level of discontent at Sam Allardyce's short reign there were reports of an organised protest taking place.

But fans did not heed the request of a pre-match printed flyer asking them to turn their backs to the pitch in the 18th minute or leave in the 78th (the relevance being 1878 was the year of the club's formation).

However, with 10 minutes to go a brief chant of "F**k off Sam Allardyce" rose up from the Gwladys Street End.

This extract is from the BBC website

Those hoping this would be the last time Allardyce was in the home dug-out distributed leaflets calling for a "peaceful protest" beforehand, aimed to signal they will not "robotically accept the dross served up".

While few, if any, turned their back on this lacklustre game as suggested, there were boos at half-time following an abject first 45 minutes with only three shots on target in total.

Seems it wasn't a totally wasted effort after all. Let's just hope this gets back to some of the board members?

EitC had income of £4.3m in their last published charity accounts. Look again, £4.3m We have individual crap players on more. Get some frigging perspective.

Other successful clubs with the competitive edge have similar. It's called Corporate Responsibility and exits throughout the business world. Just turns out EitC do it very well.

As for it being responsible for apathetic fans or the performance of team, that is a tenous link and a half.

Andy Crooks yeah, they have 77 employees in a variety of roles and projects. Not sure any are on huge wages that would back up your silly conspiracy theory.

If you want to try and advance your small minded, mean spirited arguments, go to Charity Commission and view the audited accounts and other details. Search charity number 1099366.

Then, as in Life of Brian, put your stones down and wander away muttering amongst yourselves.

Next: "God's a Red" claim explains Blues decline.

We are a football club and should contribute to the community. My problem is they glorify in it. Just do it and keep schtum. But then again, it's a great cover up for the boards failures.

Let's not drag EitC to recent football standards

It reminded me of something I used see regurarly in the 70's. On the board outside the church in Gwladys St. would be the proclamation "Jesus Saves" under which some wit had written " but Latchford nets the rebound!".

Perhaps God is a red after all .

Running a charity as part of a world-famous football club, with players being the main promotional tools isn't exactly a difficult sell, is it? You clearly know far more than anyone here about the charity business, but I can only judge from what I see at the AGM, and other club functions.

To say EiTC isn't an integral part of the club, is ridiculous. More time and promotional space is spent at any AGM than any other part of the club's business. How does that translate in the day-to-day running of the club and focus of the club as a whole? You don't know.

I know it makes many of our fans all warm and fuzzy when this subject is brought up, much like Bill and his speeches. All P.L. football clubs have a charitable foundation, but I believe ours has become far too ingrained in the footballing side of the club, for the reasons I have pointed out above. We're supposed to be moving grounds shortly. First thing we heard from the club about the move? The legacy of L4 and the community. We haven't even got planning, design or finance in place FFS! The recent business breakfast was hijacked by the “legacy” of GP, which I found absolutely amazing, considering Elstone was there to talk about business opportunities. He went straight into legacy mode, as soon as he could - then left.

If that's what you and other fans take comfort from, I'm not here to pour cold water on that. I take comfort from watching a successful Everton. That's why I believe 100% of the club's focus should be on winning a trophy or two. Or have we lost sight of that? It's great that we have a successful charity as part of the club. The thing is, it seems to have become a major part of it, rather than a seperate entity.

The lads at Everton Business Matters summed the situation up perfectly:

“We are in danger of becoming a charity, with a football club attached.”

We are one CEO away from that scenario.

I'm totally with Kevin on this, especially his remark #128 that we are one CEO away from becoming a charity with a football club attached. Everton does not, unlike LFC, actively go out there and seek the right people to fill a vacancy. Nepotism is the order of the day. That is why we are miles behind the other lot not just on the pitch.

There are many questions about the role and influence of Barrett Baxendale; how successful was she in her previous role as head of the Fiveways Trust? Why did one of the two main stakeholders of that Trust remove his school from it? Why did the other learn about her appointment to EitC only after the fact? So, if he didn't, who if anyone provided references? Or was there no due diligence apart from the recommendation of one member of the EitC Board who “knew someone who runs a charity “?

And the biggest question of all: how did she make the leap from EitC (but without actually leaving it) to Deputy CEO of Everton Football Club? For the sake of clarity, I would welcome a woman as CEO but call me old fashioned if I must add the caveat that she must be competent, capable and qualified to do the job.