Allardyce: Replacement players didn't perform

Also... beyond Vlasic, what is he even talking about? Bolasie and Davies weren't "getting an opportunity to step up," they've started the majority of games under him. Rooney's been increasingly poor over the second half of the season and DCL's basically been a 15-20 minute sub since Tosun arrived - so to act as if their absence was some crippling blow is silly. Klaassen got 15 minutes at the end (and showed potential), what do you expect?

Every week it's the same, he takes no responsibility and apportions blame wherever he thinks he can get away with it.

It doesn't wash . Times up .

One more week to go until the Big Sam era becomes an embarrassing memory.

A new Manager isn't going to magically change some of them. Far too complacent.

The fans rapid dispersal at the end is a shame, it is proof there's a gap between us and the players. A lot of work to be done to re-engage us IMHO

The man is a total cock.

Let's hope we not heading for the championship next season. Whoever gets the job will be under enormous pressure and will lack the resources to change the number players we need to get rid of and replace.

Sam could have an at least given some stability for another year while we rebuilt the squad and then brought in a manager and take the risk of the inexperience of the league. Doing it with this squad is going to impossible.

Getting battered next year will not be pretty I fear for our once great club.

First thing you've said I actually agree with. Change starts with you moving on.,"“I think we need change if we're going to get better"

First thing you've said I actually agree with. Change starts with you moving on.,,,1,22:34:50,,51.37.73.28,ok,1008,05/05/2018 22:34:50,liamreilly@hotmail.com,reader,, 915650,36608,toffeeweb,05/05/2018,John Boon,jboon1@cogeco.ca,"That was really awful to watch. We are just not an Allardyce team. However if we keep him much longer we will become one. Who wants to be saved from relegation every season. What a useless goal. Allardyce is the "Donald Trump" of football. Loud, uncouth, unaware that he is unpopular and totally delusional. It is incredible that he is paid millions to merely watch Everton play badly week after week.

The midfield lacks anything in the way of Premier League class, Davies was abysmal regardless of the goal/shot/deflection etc.

Gueye can't pass and all Schneiderlin ever does is pass sideways and backwards to Pickford.

Bolasie is truly woeful and doesn't resemble a footballer at all and up top whilst Cenk Tosun has done ok at times he's a striker that can't really play isolated as a lone forward.

There's just no real blend or even a semblance of a group of players that could gel into a good team.

The shift to 352 worked very badly. Vlasic is no left winger. He should play through the middle. You don't play Schneiderlin if there is a back 3. Bolasie and Vlasic needed to be more central, they left Tosun isolated. If you're whacking long balls to the front, the front three need to be tighter and play as a unit. Width comes from the fullbacks.

It was a mess of bad tactics from a guy who hasn't a clue. An 8 year old could have set the team up better.

What do the midfield do when they get on the ball though?

Enough times today (and throughout the season ) a midfielder had the ball but opted every time to go all the way back to Pickford.

None of our midfielders ever look to move into space or run with the ball!

Please watch the game again. The midfield continually gives the ball away. These players seem incapable of passing the ball accurately over 10 yards. Sam's assessment of the game was honest and spot on.
I remember people complaining on ToffeeWeb when Martinez was always blowing smoke up people arse. So an Everton Manager can't win. The truth is the players are just not good enough. I didn't see any poor tactics just players that aren't capable to play at the level required. This would be the one worst Everton squad I have seen. Pep Guardiola could much better with this shambolic squad.

Wonder who we will be moaning at next year. Hopefully, Sam makes the right decision and dumps us.

Keane showed his Championship credentials when divIng into a tackle on Redmond and failing to win the ball. Subsequently he also conceded possession when hopelessly miskicking a routine pass. But for Williams Keane would earn the worst centre back of the club award.

It says it all that Niasse was one of our better players in the final third of the field. Fans are pinning the majority of the blame for poor performances on the manager but the truth is the players are simply not good enough.

My main concern is that a new manager, unfamiliar with the league and unfamiliar with our players may be lulled into a false sense of security that we are a safe bet for a top half placing. As the plight of West Brom, Swansea and Southampton has shown it only takes one poor managerial appointment to send a team into the drop zone. We should be careful about what we wish for this summer.

Always his agenda, never ever about the club, never lets a fan dream, get caught up in the hopes of people.

Do one!

You do not need a team of Messis to be a great team. You need a great coach who brings the best out in each and every player.

I believe that we do have many good players, but none are playing to their full potential. If just one or two were out of form, then that is their responsibility to work hard. When the whole squad are playing badly, then the responsibility must lie with the Manager. There are teams in the league with less talented players, but all of whom play to their max.

Stating the obvious, footy is a team game. Allardyce has failed miserably to make us into a team. Hence our squad is much less than the sum of its parts. Under the right coach, they could all give and be so much more. Allardyce is not that coach. He MUST go.

The only brass neck at Goodison Park is a big fat one and I hope Moshiri sees right through this conman's latest tactic!

As for Allardyce, I think it is easy to blame him, but in terms of what he was brought here to do, he has delivered. When he arrived, we were a side in threat of relegation, now we are comfortably 8th and in a position to start planning for another year in the top flight. The football has been turgid, no doubt about it, but this does not all lie at the manager's feet, we have some truly woeful footballers in our squad and individual performances have been as poor as I can remember – no tactical approach in the world can account for players not being able to pass a ball 10 yards accurately.

I, like the majority of fans, want to see a new man in charge at the beginning of next season. But IMHO Allardyce has become a scapegoat that has been used to paper over the cracks of what is a squad severely lacking in quality.

As Allardyce has said, he can't make a man pass the ball accurately and many of our lads seem to lack basic skills. Next season, we need to attract better players to the club and we will only achieve this by recruiting a more inspiring coach.

We have improved due to the return of our defence but these guys are long in the tooth. Jags, Baines and Coleman can't go on for ever and we still lack quality cover for both full backs.

The midfield is the biggest problem with Davies and Gueye providing energy but no precision, and Rooney incapable of playing for more than a half.

Up front, we have a finisher in Tosun, but his total lack of pace means he can't play up on his own. Bolasie is truly awful. No brain in there – a show pony if ever there was one.

We need to do some serious shopping in the summer or we will be facing the drop next time round.

Yet I saw no lack of effort from these players — what I saw was an absence of confidence, absence of a plan, absence of a strategy, absence of anything resembling guidance or inspiration from the touchline. The players on the pitch are having to make it up as they go along, because there isn't even a ghost of an idea from the manager, just subs.

Watch how other managers interact with their players, and they with him. And watch the total absence of such interaction in our club.

We are stuck in the mud, and the driver blames the car and brags endlessly about his own driving skills.

Enough is enough. He needs to go next Monday.

When Sam goes in a week or two, the Club need to order a mini-bus, not a taxi. Some of those players are abysmal and no matter who comes in as manager they have to go too.

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Now the fat twat is getting his own back and mocking us very publically. He has to go but before that he needs to be humiliated - we need to take action in the final game and pull his pants down. Only then will the world take notice as Sams crinkled vag will be on display for all to see.

If Moshiri does not react the clear message sent by The Fans then he is not only a fool but a fool who has no respect for Our Club and Our Fans.

I am in The Park End and I walked out at 78 minutes - - stood downstairs and then went back up to meet my family at the end - - the players even lacked confidence during the walk around. It was sad and embarrassing.

Leave our Club you money grabbing charlatan. Moshiri restore some pride to Everton and rid us of this buffoon and give us back at least some semblance of a Club to be Proud of.

On a personal note many thanks for your kind words - - feeling much better
and on the road to recovery - - much like Everton I hope.

Cosmi grooves - - George.

Add to that Koeman's signings — Vlasic, Bolasie, Schneiderlin, Rooney, Martina, Klaassen, Sandro, Williams, Gueye... and to a lesser extent Sigurrdson, who is technically a good footballer but, apart from the odd good goal, he has been a disappointment. Lack of pace doesn't help either. I doubt many sides in the top half of the Premier League would be willing to take them off our hands.

Koeman started the rot running round like a kid in a sweet shop with a year's pocket money on him. No thought process into who he was buying. Just a hotchpotch of muddled signings in the hope that it'd work when anyone with half a brain cell would've been able to tell him it was folly.

Unfortunately for us, there isn't anyone with half a brain cell at Everton – from the board down to the coaching staff – so you reap what you sow... Then along comes Fat Chops who seemed to think he was doing us a favour by coming... Wrong; he wasn't. Yes he's done what he was brought in to do but he thinks we should be eternally grateful!!!

In the dark days of last Autumn, we'd have bit your hand off for 8th place; but the football that's been dished up has been appalling and he has the temerity to blame everyone but himself.

Fringe players? Who were the fringe players that started yesterday? They are the 1st team squad players who have all played a part in this mess of a season. I just don't get where he's coming from. I will say this though: If he does go, does anyone honestly think that whoever comes in could suddenly weave magic with that list I mentioned? I don't.

It was dreadful to watch yesterday and everyone knows we were lucky to escape with a point.

He has paid the price for the managerial cock ups of Koeman and Allardyce and it's hit his pocket more than it should have.

He needs to get the next month right and it needs to be a long term thing .

Eddie Howe, Silva (he's unexposed and worth a go) or Fonseca for me.

Moshiri really needs to step up to the plate in the next few weeks.

Maybe we have the players now,just need to be played in a different position,given a different role,maybe a new partnership on the field even...all I know at present is that our football is dire,truly joyless & unless major changes our made we will sink even further into the mire.

Change things round,try something different for the final game,think outside the box ffs,give players a chance to shine who have not featured much this season.

Shout outs to Tony Bellew,a true Blue Champion & to that Darren Moore fella,fuck those Baggies are still fighting...& to Sir Alex & our George as well !.

Back to the thread, I'm struggling to get what players he is blaming? Only Vlasic perhaps? How old is that lad? How long has he been with us? Without naming him, Vlasic must be gutted to be hung out like that given how poor the whole team played. I hope we bring in someone soon who can put an arm around some of these kids and make them believe in their worth.

Before I get accused of lacking ambition in my choice, Eddie has experience of the Prem, playing attractive football, with a limited budget. His teams also keep going till the final whistle.

While a high profile Foreign Manager would be most people's choice, it would also present a couple of problems. Would they want to come, would it be for the right reason, and not just the money?

It would also to a degree, be somewhat of a gamble, not knowing the Prem, the tendency to bring in more Foreign players, who again may not be able to adjust, and become expensive subs or squad members.

I feel Koeman has set us back at least two or three years, made worse by Allardyce, Moshiri will be reluctant to sanction big money deals on historical failure .

So basically we need someone who understands the Premier League, has a rapport with the players, and can play attractive and effective football, that person in my belief, is Eddie Howe.

No matter who comes in next season unless we get one or two quality players that can change a game by doing something a bit different we will never get above 6th/7th.

It's great having team spirit but without on or two game changers we will never compete. Leicester had the journeymen and great spirit but they also had Vardy and Mahrez.

Interesting couple of months ahead I just hope we already have the new manager lined up and he already has his eyes on a few incomers

Yet they are playing with passion and confidence against the champions on City's own ground, and as I write this they are five minutes away from taking a point that could keep them up. They're totally outmanned and outgunned, but they have competed fiercely, in a way we haven't competed all season.

They difference is that they have a young, smart, passionate manager who believes in them, who gives them confidence every day, who stands up for them and has their backs and never takes an ounce more credit than he is due.

And we have one who drains the spirit from the players, the fans, everyone around him while celebrating only himself.

You just couldn't make it up !.

That is my point

We are talking about getting into Europe challenging for the top 6 etc. If we want to be like Huddersfield, scrapping for a point at City and the other top sides then keep this squad on no marks.

If we want to challenge then we have to get at least a couple of quality game changers. Get some guys who've been there and done. who are winners and mix them with youngsters and solid team players.

Yesterday we had nobody, playing, on the bench or on the sick who could have come on and changed that game.

Sam should know, he is his manager. It is Dominic Calvert-Llewelyn. He said so in his post match. If you are going to quote which players were missing, can you please get the right one.

At least my choice won again,with 10 men for most of the match !

Also, I would suggest one exception to your final point -- Sigurdsson at his healthy best (and in his proper position) is a player capable of changing a game. Not by dominating it, but by injecting skill and organization. He has that quality IMO.

My suspicion is that Viera and Arteta are a potential Man City coaching partnership. But I guess the 365 experts have found out that Moshiri had shares in Arsenal so are putting things together.

So who's your choice, then?

Sadly...will NEVER happen, just like Brasso becoming our next sponsors !.

Ray @ 60
You say 'Eddie Howe ffs' when other posters have aired their opinion.
Then you say it's Brendan Rodgers for you ????? ( Or 'Brenda' as he was affectionately known to some Blues) Reallly ????? Seriously ??? You really are joking, right?
If not, I'm pretty sure you will be a lone or very minority vote on that one .

I would stand by Rodgers as manager over Eddie Howe every day of the week. The latter has kept Bournemouth in the premier league, failed at Burnley; he is another Martinez.

Let's hope we are all writing about having a new manager next time we are posting our comments. Fingers and toes crossed and glasses at the ready to clink!

Where's our whistleblower? It'll come out in dribs and drabs eventually...It always does. Usually by somebody who has, or is going to leave. Like Butland and Adams, though there is a hint of pot / kettle from the snidey little ex rs.

Maybe next year, eh?