Davy Klaassen could be set to join Besiktas on a two-season loan deal with an option to make the move permanent in 2020 if a report in Turkey can be believed.
The Dutch midfielder has been the subject of recent news reports, most notably from Sky Sports, linking him with the Turkish giants but now Hakan Gündoğar from A Sports, is suggesting a deal with Everton is 99% concluded.
The claim is that Everton will receive €1.5m (~£1.3m) a year in loan fees and that Besiktas will pay the player €2m (£1.75m) a year. Depending on the arrangement with the player and how much Klaassen is actually currently earning – it's been variously reported as being between £70,000 and £100,000 a week – that would cover anywhere between 60% and 85% of what he would be paid if he stayed at Goodison Park.
The only remaining sticking point is the final price should Besiktas wish to make the deal permanent — Everton are asking for €20m but the Turks are trying to negotiate that fee down.
Klaassen was signed from Ajax last July for £23.6m but struggled to adapt to the Premier League in tandem with the Blues' poor start to last season.
He was eventually dropped from the first team and his last start was in the Europa League dead rubber against Apollon Limassol in Nicosia in December.
Only this week he was talking of how happy he was to be with the Blues and his hopes for next season at Goodison but it appears as though he could be moving on having made just three Premier League starts.
"I feel at home and am determined to play more for the team,” he said in the Liverpool Echo. “We have a vacation now and I will relax for a couple of weeks but then start training to come back in top condition.
“That is my goal and everybody's goal, so there is going to be good competition for places. You have to be ready as soon as you are needed.
“It is hard to be patient but if you keep working it will come. You have to work hard and try to show yourself when you get a chance."
The 25-year-old could one of a number of victims of a hard-nosed cull of Everton's first team this summer as new Director of Football, Marcel Brands, and manager, Marco Silva, attempt to trim the size of the squad and the team's wage bill.
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1 Posted 08/06/2018 at 21:03:07
2 Posted 08/06/2018 at 21:05:36
3 Posted 08/06/2018 at 21:23:20
While I think he deserves a second chance, I think we have to go with whatever decisions Brands and Silva make regarding restructuring the squad.
4 Posted 08/06/2018 at 21:43:11
He had his chance more than once and blew it. Yeah, he might get better eventually if he keeps playing but, by the same token, if we keep letting Eddie the Eagle do the ski jump, at some point, he will improve...
5 Posted 08/06/2018 at 21:43:31
In other words, we are doing Besiktas a favour for giving us Tosun?
6 Posted 08/06/2018 at 21:47:45
What on earth does Davy have to do to prove himself? How can you ship him out without giving him a chance?
Yes, we paid big money for him, so why let him go without giving him a chance?
There are at least 10 in the queue ahead of him that need to leave before he is even considered transfer material.
M & M will surely give him the chance their predecessors didn't.
If he is shipped out, he will come back to haunt us, IMO.
7 Posted 08/06/2018 at 21:53:29
Get used to it. We're offloading salaries. As long as another team pays the wages, even in part, we'll keep doing this to trim payroll.
8 Posted 08/06/2018 at 21:57:25
Get him playing, and hope he cuts it. We need some money back on him – although £17m in 2 years from the Turks isn't exactly brilliant either.
9 Posted 08/06/2018 at 22:03:39
We've been looking at their midfielder. Don't pretend to remember his name but I wonder if he could be coming the other way?! That said, he can go where he wants. His contract runs out this summer.
I hope Klaassen is given a chance or sold. This deal sounds like bollocks, but typically Everton, just the kind of shit deal we'd be involved in. As Kieran said, reminiscent of the Nyarko debacle.
10 Posted 08/06/2018 at 22:18:48
11 Posted 08/06/2018 at 22:19:16
12 Posted 08/06/2018 at 22:22:14
The few touches he had in the game, he was awful. I knew then he would be a bad signing. Klaassen is not up to the English game. I don't see what his main strength is – that's if he has a strength at all.
Get rid of Davy, cut our losses, and stay away from players with no pace or without proper skills. These plodder-type players are 10-a-penny on the Continent, so paying £25 million for one of them stinks to me. Stinks of Koeman doing Ajax a favour.
13 Posted 08/06/2018 at 22:23:11
14 Posted 08/06/2018 at 22:28:10
Having seen how Klaassen struggled to settle in England, I'd say a two-year option to give him time to acclimatise to the Super Lig is not a bad thing from Besiktas's point of view.
I'd prefer a cleaner deal where we just get rid straight away if we're offloading players but we're not in a strong bargaining position on this one!
15 Posted 08/06/2018 at 22:45:46
16 Posted 08/06/2018 at 22:54:35
He isn't top of my list to go, but the lad has struggled under three managers. A good player in there, but in this league, unless you are top drawer, you need pace or physicality... preferably both. He has neither.
If we are serious about needing to cut the wage bill, I think it is fair.
17 Posted 08/06/2018 at 23:05:33
I see your point but there's a big "what if" in what you say. Would you be confident they'll pay £17m after 2 years?? Didn't Klaassen sign a 4-year deal with us. That will mean he'll only have 12 months remaining on his contract once this proposed 2-year loan ends. We've been here before with Joey Yobo. A £4m deal proposed after a loan with Fenerbahçe. They reneged and he ended up seeing out his contract in Turkey, and we got nowt.
I guess the hope will be he's a big success and they'll be other bidders if Besiktas pull any funny business. Depends on Klaassen being a success. Does anyone think he'll acclimatise to Turkish football. It won't be as fast and physical as the Premier League, but I'd still prefer a clean sale, or a loan to a club from another league.
18 Posted 08/06/2018 at 23:08:26
19 Posted 08/06/2018 at 23:34:09
Just get rid of him — he's as weak as piss.
20 Posted 08/06/2018 at 23:50:50
However, I wish him luck and hopefully a good career when he moves on.
21 Posted 08/06/2018 at 00:00:07
22 Posted 08/06/2018 at 00:02:10
As described, the deal covers most of his wages. Yes, not great, but realistic. And yes, he was treated badly last season, but he is still surplus to requirements in a squad-cutting exercise. Get real folks.
23 Posted 08/06/2018 at 00:03:38
Klaassen has never been given a chance, a run of games or played in the way he did for Ajax. If the deal is a 2-year loan to Turkey, my thoughts are that we should keep him here to play unless someone comes in with a realistic offer to buy. However, I wouldn't get rid of him to buy Grealish or Wilshere.
24 Posted 09/06/2018 at 00:07:05
In the interests of moving forward, I, personally, have no problem offloading him to Besiktas for a couple of years and then getting a sizeable chunk of what we paid for him back at the end of it. Of course, I'd prefer a straight sale but that ship appeared to sail in January when his move to Napoli fell through.
25 Posted 09/06/2018 at 00:38:24
26 Posted 09/06/2018 at 01:04:04
Whilst I can see us playing more to his strengths next season, breaking at speed would suit him more, I just don't think he's right for us next season. He's not a box to box type to play in the 3 in a 4-3-3. He's not quite fast enough either. Then put him in a 4-2-3-1 as the Number 10 and he's not good enough there either. Silva likes his Number 10 to have an excellent range of passing, Klaassen's range of passing is all short. Then there's his shooting, a lot of his goals take deflections and bobble in. Better keeping and defending and they're saved.
I like Davy, he has a good attitude, he would be a decent player in a side playing good football. but he's not what we need right now. Best to get his wages off the books so we can bring in some better players.
I would disagree about the Man Utd final though. Ajax didn't play well at all that night. But remember they'd had a long hard season, and I think that was more of an off game than Klaassen playing at his level, don't forget they beat a better Lyon side than thrashed us (it had Lacazette), they beat Schalke, and they beat Celta Vigo. They deserved to be in the final and Klaassen was their captain and one of their best players.
It'll be sad to see the lad go, but we need to be ruthless and get rid of the wages and try and get better players in if we can. The loan should have a break clause after 12 months though, we should be able to sell him if things go well.
27 Posted 09/06/2018 at 02:35:30
28 Posted 09/06/2018 at 02:47:51
Just goes to show that Koeman didn't have any clear idea of formation or style of play. Why on earth did he buy Klaassen?!
I think your summary of Klaassen's style of play is spot on. He would probably thrive in a team like City, but when did we ever play quick short passing under Koeman. Just goes to show how clueless he really was.
29 Posted 09/06/2018 at 03:15:11
You make some good points. Particularly the fact that even with all his good attributes, he is a difficult player to fit into our team. I actually think he's be a wonderful player for a team like Arsenal or City. A team who keep possession and could use his excellent first time passing on the edge of the 18-yard box.
That said, I hope we keep him. He keeps things ticking. And if we have others on the same page I think we'll see the best of him.
It all seems a bit premature anyway. Surely it's better for Silva to spend a bit of time with the lad before shipping him out on a bad deal.
30 Posted 09/06/2018 at 06:29:07
31 Posted 09/06/2018 at 06:48:12
One of the massive mistake signings Koeman and Walsh brought in.
Everytime he had a the chance to play for us he flattered to deceive not even as good as Osman who cost nothing and used to get slaughtered on here for not being good enough.
David Barks thinks hes the next Xavi absolutely clueless!
32 Posted 09/06/2018 at 07:47:21
33 Posted 09/06/2018 at 08:13:28
34 Posted 09/06/2018 at 08:42:18
35 Posted 09/06/2018 at 08:50:21
36 Posted 09/06/2018 at 09:01:59
37 Posted 09/06/2018 at 09:06:37
38 Posted 09/06/2018 at 09:16:55
The others you mention were, I agree, a total waste of FT.
Problem with this thread is many are assuming that there is truth in the reports and that Brands/Silva (max 1 week in) have already decided to move him on! Who knows the secrets of the Black Magic Box?
39 Posted 09/06/2018 at 09:28:10
40 Posted 09/06/2018 at 09:30:32
It gets his wages off the books, and for Besiktas they get a proven (with Ajax) quality player.
They get him playing regularly again, his confidence and fitness comes back.
Besiktas do well in the Turk league, Davy gets to showcase himself again in The Champions League or Europa.
There should be a clause in there that says we can accept an offer of 20m at anytime after the first season.
But if all goes well for Dave at the end of the loan a club will offer 15m and we will have recouped a healthy proportion of the money Koeman spent on him.
Its not perfect at all but its a viable solution for all concerned.
41 Posted 09/06/2018 at 09:35:42
He seems like a decent guy, but even Koeman has since said that it was a mistake to buy him. He just doesn't have any of the physical attributes needed in this league. 3 managers have watched him train and all decided that he wasn't good enough. If you can't stand out in training amongst last year's piss poor squad then you're struggling. And if you're small, weak and slow then you need world class skills. Davy needs to go down a level.
42 Posted 09/06/2018 at 09:42:47
Klaasen undoubtedly struggled to adapt to the pace and physicality of the premier league, but he played under Koeman who didnt have a coherent gameplan. Allardyce of course had a gameplan which was anthema to Klaasen's playing style. I like his attitude and would give him one more year. There is plenty of other dross to take off the wage bill first.
43 Posted 09/06/2018 at 09:45:18
I'd prefer to see some pace and strength
44 Posted 09/06/2018 at 09:55:15
Pure conjecture mind.
45 Posted 09/06/2018 at 10:04:15
46 Posted 09/06/2018 at 10:12:49
47 Posted 09/06/2018 at 10:39:03
48 Posted 09/06/2018 at 10:41:52
As a player he possesses something few of our players have, genuine vision. Id be interested to see what he could do if he got Uber fit and was in a team with Lookman and Walcott (Lozano) on the wings. He did well in an Ajax team with pace all around him though ultimately his lack of physicality does not cut him out for the PL.
49 Posted 09/06/2018 at 11:03:04
I just had a feeling that Silva may use him like he used Cleverly at Watford.
Davvy gave the impression of someone trying far too hard. I don't doubt that he can play but it's the old one about the PREM being too quick for him or maybe our lack of system not helping.
50 Posted 09/06/2018 at 11:07:48
51 Posted 09/06/2018 at 11:33:37
So this proposed loan deal of Klassen going to Besiktas on a 2 year loan deal with Everton still paying a large proportion of his salary. But we have seen what happens when these deals go wrong just look at the latest loan deal we did loaning out Mirallas. The player has been sent back early because the Greek club have decided they don't want him. So we are now left with a player who thanks to Koeman has got at least another 2 year contract to see out. And bearing whats happened with the Greek club I cant see a queue forming from other clubs to take him off our hands. He obviously isn't good enough for our fist team squad so when we name our 26 player first team squad at the start of the season, and he wont be in it what happens then. You have a player with 2 years left on a contract doing nothing. Also have we learned nothing from the loan deal that took Yobo to Galatasary on a 2 year lone deal with a fee agreed to be paid at the end of it. When it came to the end of the loan deal Galatasary said they wouldnt pay the agreed fee so we had to reduce the final settlement.
52 Posted 09/06/2018 at 11:43:34
53 Posted 09/06/2018 at 11:48:43
54 Posted 09/06/2018 at 11:57:54
I would like a system were there are no loan deals and no transfers after the season has started
Brian I believe that's exactly what's happening this season. Unless you were including the January window too?
55 Posted 09/06/2018 at 13:24:48
The only reason I watched that final was because Koeman was sniffing around Klassen. The whole team were powder puff poor and Klassen did not get a look in. I couldn't believe it when Koeman shelled out over £20m for the guy.
No wonder Holland aren't in the World Cup.
I guess Silva needs to take a look but if he is up for a clear out, I don't think Klassen will get much time. Maybe a ONE year loan to Wolves or Fulham would be a better option.
56 Posted 09/06/2018 at 13:25:55
I had hoped that he could have been used as a make-weight in a transfer for Lozano, but that is unlikely now.
While on the subject of midfield, I have read a few reports from different sources, questioning Carvalho's mobility, as being too slow for the Prem.
This is the main reason for letting Klaassen go, so I hope they are not replacing one problem with another, that is of course if we go for Carvalho.
57 Posted 09/06/2018 at 15:04:48
All of that said, Johnny H is very complimentary about Everton on Twitter and Instagram and seems to consider himself a blue. Maybe our man in The Netherlands can confirm how he views his time with us when he's talking to the press back home.
58 Posted 09/06/2018 at 15:21:22
Theres other players who should be prioritised to be loaned out and also put to be no the window.
59 Posted 09/06/2018 at 16:25:23
Get the best deal; it's okay saying "Sell him, don't loan him" but, if this is the best or only offer on the table, it's better than having him sat at Finch Farm...
60 Posted 09/06/2018 at 17:28:58
61 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:55:54
They would have had a brief to run the rule over the squad, and watch every match on video, who knows maybe training sessions at Finch Farm too.
I assume also that every Manager has some sort of noting system, that can be read by his successor.
So hardly think it is a knee-jerk decision on Klaassen, admittedly on the face of it, not the best deal for Everton, but there again what do we know.
62 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:56:33
63 Posted 10/06/2018 at 09:14:33
Can't say I am impressed with that transfer rumour.
64 Posted 10/06/2018 at 09:28:09
I still remember the run he made to take the defence to the near post at Goodison when Rooney scored his first return goal, the header; albeit, at other times, he did appear to be easily outpaced.
65 Posted 10/06/2018 at 13:01:17
66 Posted 10/06/2018 at 13:36:29
Especially the silly fees being mentioned, if you're going to buy a centre-back, it's better going for Alfie Mawson who has proved he can hack it well at Premier League level, or Lascelles but he has only done it for a year, but still seeming better than Lindelöf.
I was hoping the Dynamic Duo would be unearthing some gems, but there's still time left.
67 Posted 10/06/2018 at 22:50:23
Klaassen's move is 99% done...
It's amazing that about 50% of these 99% done deals go tits up.
68 Posted 10/06/2018 at 23:00:56
Let's watch him at the World Cup and see what we think then. The Germany game in two weeks should tell us everything we need to know.
69 Posted 10/06/2018 at 00:03:20
70 Posted 11/06/2018 at 03:28:15
Silva apparently knows him from his time at Benfica and, let's face it, very few but the spectacular hit the ground running in the Premier League.
He's young, tall and athletic, not everybody makes it at Man Utd, but he's definitely the kind of guy we should be looking for, ex-Manc stench or not.
As for other Man Utd rumors, Rashford all day, any day. COYB!
71 Posted 11/06/2018 at 07:23:38
It's one thing looking good in international football but altogether different in the Premier League.
We need pace at the back to replace Jagielka and cover Keane's mistakes.
72 Posted 11/06/2018 at 11:08:34
The amount of money this club has wasted over the last 18 months beggars belief. £9m to the last manager for just 6 months work. Now we're looking to offload a £24m signing on a two-year loan just to get him off the wage bill. If it goes through we're essentially writing off £24m as presumably we can't force Besiktas to buy him in two years time and after the loan deal he'll be 3 years through his Everton contract with not much value left!
Just no logic at all. We'd be better off just selling him now for £10-15m if we can find someone to buy him. He played in the Europa League Final just 12 months ago so surely someone will buy him. Then again, we don't know the terms of the Tosun deal we did 6 months ago. Maybe we didn't really pay £27m... who knows?
73 Posted 11/06/2018 at 11:18:53
Nice lad but doesn't seem to be up for the Premier League. I'd imagine Everton are funding the Tosun deal in installments and this arrangement would mean offsetting some of the outstanding finance.
Otherwise it doesn't seem logical as (as said above); he'll be in his final year of his contract at the end of the loan; so there's no way this lot will stump up £15 or 20M.
74 Posted 11/06/2018 at 14:03:55
Looks like he's done here... pity, never got a fair chance in the team from day one.
75 Posted 13/06/2018 at 22:05:16
Have to hand it to the Turks, more tricks than Tommy Cooper.
Now Bolasie is wanted on loan in Turkey, they must be pissing themselves with Everton, first Yobo, now Klaassen and Bolasie.
76 Posted 13/06/2018 at 22:10:22
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