Champions League Matchday 4

Decent game at Stamford Bridge where Chelsea are playing Ajax in the CL. Currently 3-1 to Ajax, which includes two own goals. The second one being really freakish as a free kick smacks against the post, and with Kepa in full flight, the ball comes back off the post, hits Kepa in the face and rebounds back over the line.

Wow, nearly goal of the season by Zouma. Unbelievable run from deep in his own half, waltzes through almost the entire Ajax team, gets to the edge of the penalty area then balloons the ball high and wide.

4-1 Ajax. Great game this.

It's all kicking off at Chelsea. Two red cards for Ajax, another penalty for Chelsea and the score now 4-3.

4-4. Chelsea will easily win this now. Zouma header smacks against the bar and the rebound knocked in by Reece James.

Chelsea 5-4. Unbelievable game.

Nope, goal disallowed by VAR due to handball.

Chelsea finished 4-4. Ajax played with nine men for the last 20 minutes, but probably had just as many chances as Chelsea to win it. Highlight of the game for me was Kurt Zouma's run!!

How good / bad were Ajax? Was there collapse due to the sendings off?

Ajax were awesome Steve. They attack with such venom. They were 4-1 up at one stage. Chelsea pulled one back before Ajax had two players sent off at the same time. A penalty was awarded to Chelsea, but I'm not sure if one of the sendings off was due to dissent for awarding the penalty. Both sending off's were second yellows. Danny Blind scythed down Tammy Abraham outside the area and got A second yellow. The referee played on and then Veltman got second yellow for, I assume dissent. Anyway Chelsea scored their second penalty, then equalised before having a goal disallowed. To be fair to Ajax, they tried to attack and had two great chances to win it.

I watched our game at Crewe rather than the CL offerings, but tuned into the last 15 minutes of the Chelsea-Ajax game when it was already 4-4.

Anybody not knowing that Ajax were down to 9 men would have been impressed by the way they always had 5 men in attack around the Chelsea penalty area. On learning that they only had four other men on the park - and one of them a keeper! - you would think it was Kamikaze!

Both teams had serious chances to win it in the dying minutes I saw. Must have been a belter over 90 minutes, Rob.

Was an amazing game, Jay. A freakish own goal for the Ajax second, their first goal was an own goal. Two penalties, two sending off and an amazing solo run by Kurt Zouma.

Sorry, Ajax third was a freakish goal.

VAR involved in the Man City Champions League game. Penalty awarded by the referee for a pull back on Sterling, but downgraded to a free-kick after a review.

Moments later, another penalty shout for Man City. The VAR official tells the referee to have a look on the touch line monitor, and the on-field referee gives the pen. Terrible penalty by Jesus though, as he scuffs it wide.

With regard to VAR, the City game shows exactly how GOOD it can be when it's used properly.

Two decisions within a minute or two of each other. Two decisions that took no more than a minute to make. Two excellent, correct decisions.

Oh how I wish it worked like that in the Premier League.

Everyone keeps saying Brian, VAR Is not the problem, it's the incompetent officials who are the problem. You're right, both those reviews took less than a minute to come to a decision. No looking at it from 14 or 15 different angles, taking 3 or 4 minutes.

City falling apart here. Ederson taken off at half-time with a "minor injury". Atalanta equaliser... now Bravo the Man City second keeper has been sent off. Kyle walker goes in goal.

That Atalanta player had no intentions of going round the Man City keeper, Brian, but he was very clever with his trailing leg though!

It was poor play by Bernardo Silva though, Tony, and I don't think Bravo needed to come rushing out?

Only seen the keeper rushing out like a madman Rob, so for that alone he can have no excuses, but I thought the player could have jumped over him and scored, but I've only seen it from 3 angles though!

Following on from Kyle Walker's antics, who was the last outfield player to go in goal for the Blues? I don't recall Jagielka ever doing so despite him doing so for Sheff United. Also Rooney fancied himself as a keeper, but he didn't do so. Any ideas who was the last one?

Steve (22), Paul Gerrard wasn't an outfield player, but he played in goal quite a few times, and he wasn't a goalie.