Gueye into last eight at Afcon with Senegal

Bad news.

No preseason for Gueye, injury in waiting early into the new season, though maybe with PSG.

Oh Liam you are so positive aren't you?
Fuckin hell, mate why bother, isn't the tournament he is in,is a " pre season " ?
Any chance he has a couple of weeks off?
Or is that unprofessional?

TBF to Liam, perhaps he didn't word it the best, but if Gueye stays with us he will need extensive R&R, rather than join up with the squad for full-blown training.

It's a genuine concern that many international footballers have had two consecutive heavy summers of football - the WC last year, the various heavy duty regional tournaments this summer.

They will have to be well managed to avoid burnout or picking up a stress injury.

Gueye in particular will need careful watching given his high energy style. Mina will have benefitted from appearing at the Copa America, given how little club football he played for us last season. A combo of being dropped and getting the mumps means Richarlison will not be as burnt out as he could have been.

With so many top teams dependent on many players from every continent, it will be interesting to see how they go from mid-season on.

Liam #1, bad news.

The sun will come up tomorrow morning.

Skin cancer in waiting for millions of people.

Cripes.

Top teams must have many players still in various tournaments, so it's not just us. Rather have those players than unable to pushing forward up the table. Let's hope Marco Silva gets the balance right.

Race horses get better treatment than top footballers these days. 3 months used to be the norm for a rest before pre season training now its more like 3 weeks - ridiculous. The Spurs players were goosed in the CL Final and is it any wonder - how many of them played for England in Russia last summer. If Levy had let Poch bring in 3 or 4 quality players he could have rotated his squad as Gnasher did over at Mordor. Then we might have got the Spurs team who took us apart instead of the knackered version who lost to the RS. Just think Henderson has a CL medal f me.

Ronaldo plays about a million games a year and never looks tired. I wish we had more players that played loads of games. It would indicate that they where half decent. Let's dace it-ours never play past the third round in the cups so they should have some energy left for tournaments.

My issue with this is that it is kicking the can down the road about a potential transfer.

As mentioned by multiple posters in various threads, there's a strong belief in the ToffeeWeb community that clubs are waiting for players involved in international tournaments to be eliminated before ramping up any interest.

I'd prefer to know now if Gana is going or not so that Marco can get a new man in and up to speed with what his duties/role will be.
Even if Gana stays, we will need a plan B for the first 6 weeks of the season until Gana is rested and up to speed.

On a separate note, I see Simms didn't make the journey to Kenya.

Looks like the U23 squad will get a good run out.

Tommy (8) - Whilst we don't know what individual player's intentions are nor who the club is targeting in the transfer market as Silva pointed out towards the end of last season, he and Brands know and you can be sure that they are organized and working in the background. I, for one, like the fact that they are being tight lipped about it and I hope that when all is revealed, we shall all be pleasantly surprised.

Hopefully Mane is also totally knackered and unfit to play for 6 months.

Its always a consideration when signing players who will be involved in AFCON.
Footballers are not machines and they need a period of recuperation, and I fear even someone with Gueye's lungs may be burned out.
The idea to have these type of tournaments and the World Cup after a hard season needs consideration as to a shorter season or to hold them mid term.
This of course would be the biggest shake up in the history of the game but club/player power could make the shift.

Rugby has introduced ‘mandatory rest periods'. It's a more physical game so there was more need but it's a good idea. Football clubs do try to manage workload but the temptation to sneak a top player back early is often too great.

The players involved in tournaments, as Billy said at #2, won't have the same need for ‘pre-season' as they've stayed at competitive level. The problem is more come sometime in November-March when the player hits a bit of a wall. They need little breaks in between. With the size of our squad and the number of young players with ‘potential' who need an opportunity, we shouldn't be too worried about managing the older international players' workloads.

Maybe they're not going to be good enough, but Davies, Williams and Baningime all get more game time if Gueye is ‘managed', not to mention we currently still have McCarthy and Schneiderlin.

Wow, didn't expect to get hammered for that little nugget but hey, it's about opinions I guess and mine is that this lad, because of his his style of play could do with some time off.

This is not a preseason, his season hasn't ended yet.

Expect more you Mike at #4; isn't this a football forum. We've all got and know others with far more pressing problems but don't we enjoy football to get away from that.