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Theo Walcott is available again after recovering from a bout of illness
Everton go into the 234th Merseyside derby looking to find an unexpected spark to lift their ailing Premier League campaign as uncertainty over Marco Silva's future continues to be the dominant talking point.
Few expected the Portuguese to still be in charge of the Toffees at this point after he and his team were booed off the pitch at Goodison Park 10 days ago following the 2-0 defeat to Norwich but the club have stuck with him for the time being and he has an opportunity to bank some significant currency if he can cause an upset.
Liverpool's current status as clear league leaders, Everton's terrible form so far this season, the injury problems afflicting Finch Farm and the burgeoning weight of Anfield derby history are all against Silva. He was reminded in his pre-match press conference that an Everton side hasn't won this fixture in 20 years but he insisted that that represents an opportunity for his team and that everyone should go there to enjoy what is always a big occasion.
“It's always a fantastic game with a fantastic atmosphere,” Silva said. “Of course, we'd prefer to be playing in our stadium but when it's Liverpool vs Everton, the players have to enjoy [these kinds of games]. It will be a tough game for sure. It's tough for all the clubs who go there but it's a special game for the city and our fans as well.
“But let's enjoy the game. Let's go there with big motivation, with big courage to play and to enjoy the challenge like we did last season.”
Silva will take largely the same squad to Anfield as the one he had available against Leicester on Sunday.
Everton were forced to deploy a central midfield of Tom Davies and Gylfi Sigurdsson operating in a deeper role because of a biting injury crisis in that part of the field but Morgan Schneiderlin, who came on for the last quarter of an hour at the King Power Stadium could be fit to start against Liverpool if needed.
Meanwhile, Theo Walcott has recovered from illness and will be available and, with three more days behind him, Bernard might also be deemed strong enough to take a place in the starting XI. Seamus Coleman and Fabian Delph are ruled out, however.
“Theo will be okay for tomorrow,” Silva explained in his pre-match press conference at Finch Farm. “He was sick but he worked the last two sessions with the team and he is in condition to. be in the squad.
“Coleman tried this morning again but he's not in condition to be fit for the match and Delph is not training at this moment with the team. Let's see in the next few days how they will be and whether they will be fit or not for the next match.”
Given the injury problems in midfield where André Gomes is sidelined until the later stages of the season at the earliest, Delph has struggled with a succession of soft-tissue problems and there is uncertainty over when Jean-Philippe Gbamin might be ready, the manager was asked whether Everton would consider going into the transfer market next month.
Director of Football, Marcel Brands, is on record as saying that he doesn't favour trading players during the January window but Silva didn't rule it out.
“We have to sit down and to talk about the situation,” the Portuguese said. “At the moment we have a number of injuries in our midfield zone which are really different than normal so we will have to sit [down and discuss] the situation and let's see what we can do, not just in that position but in others as well.
“But for the next month there will be full focus on the [current] squad… full confidence in the squad, even with the problems we have. I have to be fair to the players — they are fighting, they are working really hard to get the results we need.”
Until then, Silva has to make do with the players available to him and it will be interesting to see what, if any, tactical shifts he makes for the trip across Stanley Park. He used a three-man central defensive unit against Leicester but while Michael Keane said afterwards that while he thought it worked well on the day, he admitted the players were still getting to grips with the system.
Schneiderlin's availability could lessen the need to string an extra defensive player across the back and it's possible that Silva will revert to the 4-3-2-1 formation that he has fallen back on so often this season. The concern is, of course, that with Bernard and Walcott potentially able to start and the manager having given Sigurdsson the captain's armband, it will be Alex Iwobi, who played a crucial role in the Blues' last two goals, who gets shafted and dropped back to the bench.
It's been a while since Evertonians came into a derby this despondent about their team's chances but if there are reasons to be optimistic, they centre around the two matches against the old enemy from across the Park last season in which Silva's side made Jurgen Klopp's eventual Champions League winners look decidedly ordinary.
Indeed, had André Gomes's close-range header gone in and Jordan Pickford not flapped the ball to Divock Origi in stoppage time, Everton might well have won the Anfield derby for the first time since 1999. In the reverse fixture, Pickford kept a clean sheet at one end but, much like this season, the Blues simply lacked the cutting edge at the other to claim victory. And, let's face it, Everton have ended long Liverpool unbeaten runs in the past and thoroughly enjoyed doing so.
The odds are longer this time but while the old adage that the form book goes out the window for derbies has largely been debunked when it comes to this fixture, it is still a local grudge match between two teams of eleven human beings and anything can happen.
Kick-off: 8:15pm, Wednesday 4th December, 2019
Referee: Mike Dean
Last Time: Liverpool 1 - 0 Everton
Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Sidibé, Mina, Keane, Digne, Schneiderlin, Davies, Sigurdsson, Bernard, Walcott, Richarlison
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3 Posted 03/12/2019 at 18:07:07
4 Posted 03/12/2019 at 18:07:49
5 Posted 03/12/2019 at 18:14:00
So, Morgan, it's a no from me.
6 Posted 03/12/2019 at 18:26:37
8/1 for the win? Might be worth a punt. COYB!
7 Posted 03/12/2019 at 18:28:48
This match, will NOT be available to view on Amazon Prime in Ireland as Amazon only purchased the rights to show their games in the UK - not in Ireland.
The only channel to watch the match on live TV in Ireland is Premiere Sports1 - an additional channel on the Sky Sports package.
This also applies to all Amazon Prime games for the rest of the month
8 Posted 03/12/2019 at 18:52:46
9 Posted 03/12/2019 at 19:03:21
It's all set up for a jolly exciting game
10 Posted 03/12/2019 at 19:20:18
Get Baines on the left, With Lewin outside him. Sidibe on the right, with Richarlison, Just inside him. It's got to be Davies, and Sigurdson/Iwobi with young Moise Kean upfront!
Walcott can come on when Kean tires, Iwobi can come on when Siggy or Tom tires, and I'm going to bed because I'm knackered just thinking about it!
11 Posted 03/12/2019 at 19:58:25
Pickford
Sidibe Holgate Mina Digne
Iwobi Davies Sigurdsson Bernard
Kean Richarlison
Attacking:
Pickford
Sidibe Holgate Mina Digne
Davies Sigurdsson
Iwobi Bernard
Kean Richarlison
If Bernard can't go, I'd consider dropping Richarlison back into Bernard's spot, and running Kean/DCL up top in both formations.
Oh yeah, subs:
Lossl
Bernard or DCL, depending on Bernard being fit
Tosun
Keane
Schneiderlin
Walcott
Baines
12 Posted 03/12/2019 at 20:00:58
13 Posted 03/12/2019 at 20:06:59
14 Posted 03/12/2019 at 20:16:28
4-3-3
Pickers
Lucky Dean
The road runner
Big Yegsy
Mason jar
Crabington
Skater boi
Jay jay Okocha
Ricky's arl son
TM Lewin
Mustard
15 Posted 03/12/2019 at 20:23:55
Silva is speaking like it's his last game.
16 Posted 03/12/2019 at 20:34:58
Anyway, the point is, five of their last seven matches have been 2-1 wins (against the likes of Palace and Brighton) and they've only kept two clean sheets all season (fewer than us). Opportunities will be there.
17 Posted 03/12/2019 at 20:37:35
18 Posted 03/12/2019 at 20:41:52
Who's Skater Boi and JJ Okocha?
19 Posted 03/12/2019 at 20:45:09
Bill @16 and Alisson is out on a red card suspension, and starting CM Fabinho is out injured. So backup keeper + at least 1 different key piece.
Just sayin...
20 Posted 03/12/2019 at 20:51:36
Sadly Schniederlin will play, you can't ask a centre half or Skater boi to play there it just won't work. I guess Oracle (Delph), I thought he was ruled out? ☺ï¸
21 Posted 03/12/2019 at 20:54:43
22 Posted 03/12/2019 at 21:04:35
I stand by Skater boi though, that's solid material.
23 Posted 03/12/2019 at 21:06:56
I would play Richarlison in that role with Sigurdsson as a traditional No 10.
24 Posted 03/12/2019 at 21:17:46
If we go lone striker, you may as well turn the match off. We NEED 2 up top for this match. Or even 3 if you think a 4-3-3 is our best option. One thing is certain, 4-2-3-1 isn't going to work.
And please, for the love of all that is holy, leave Gylfi far away from the 10.
25 Posted 03/12/2019 at 23:00:03
26 Posted 03/12/2019 at 23:05:27
Firstly try winning the toss and turn them around so they can't play to the flag waving tourists in the second half. I seem to recall Kanchelskis did alright when that was the case...
Secondly, play up on Van Dijk. Get either Calvert-Lewin or Richarlison pressing him high and not allowing him any space. Too many sides back off from him and he struts around the pitch doing what he likes. He can switch off and his first touch isn't the best. Force him into mistakes, make him foul us.
Lastly, they always cheat so let them hang themselves. Don't go flying in and leave the officials with an excuse. Make them think they are about to take a hit and fall to ground with no contact. I can think of at least 4 of them who regularly go to ground in expectation of a challenge when running full pelt with absolutely no intention to stay on their feet. They often do it while in the penalty area but running away from goal. We need to be smart.
27 Posted 03/12/2019 at 23:08:52
28 Posted 03/12/2019 at 23:10:38
29 Posted 03/12/2019 at 23:48:31
This mystery will be forever exclusively locked in Moshiri's brain, as personally I have never met any Evertonian who could understand why he was ever employed by the club. His tenure has mostly been a complete waste of time and money unfortunately. Apart from signing Richarlison, his one act of sound judgement.
30 Posted 03/12/2019 at 23:51:57
I thought we were going to try to score goals though. We need 2 up top (or 3 even)! End of.
31 Posted 03/12/2019 at 00:12:43
Silva will most probably go with the same formation as last time. I think Walcott will come in for Iwobi and possibly Schneiderlin for Sigurdsson.
Me personally. I'd play 5-3-2. I think we need the 3 centre backs and the 3 midfielders all matched up. We may only have two up top but they will be in the middle where strikers should be. Don't think he would do this though, he doesn't like to leave his fullbacks exposed.
32 Posted 04/12/2019 at 00:27:59
Because I'm a geek with nothing better to do, I actually checked all of Liverpool's matches from last year, and this year so far (including all CL matches), and in the few they lost, or ones they won but gave up 2+ goals, almost every single one was against either 4-4-2 or 4-3-3. The only ones that weren't were the 2 against City, and well, we're not City.
I'll repeat it again: if we go with a lone striker we may as well play with 10, because that's what we'll be doing. It's a friggin' numbers game. VVD can't pay attention to more than 1 striker at a time, so why give him that as the only option? Mind-boggling.
Oh, and you'd take Iwobi off for Walcott? What exactly are you smoking, friend? We can't go 3-5-2, TAA and Robertson will eat us alive. Especially since our 3-back pairing never looks comfortable and certainly can't move the ball forward with any degree of effectiveness. Against Leicester? Holgate/Keane/Mina were a dreadful 28-48 (52%) on their passes forward! All their passes should be forward! That means basically giving the ball right back to Liverpool in our defensive half of the park. No thanks.
33 Posted 04/12/2019 at 00:51:09
34 Posted 04/12/2019 at 01:17:19
I think if we went 4-4-2 we'd get overrun. Our back 3 was a new set up, that defensively worked okay. Maybe we tried to play it forward rather too quickly but gave the ball away all over the shop. I lost count of the times l screamed keep the ball. I was more animated than usual as l had money on the game.
I just want the game over and done with. It used to be that form didn't matter going into a derby. Not the case these days as we lack the fight of old.
35 Posted 04/12/2019 at 01:20:30
7 wins at home against:-
Burnley
Brighton
Newcastle Utd
Crystal Palace
Southampton
Aston Villa
Bournemouth
21 pointsÂ
7 draws home and away against:-Â
Arsenal (H)
Newcastle Utd (A)
Watford (A)
Manchester Utd (H)
Norwich City (A)
Leicester City (H)
Wolves (A)
7 points
Defeats against:-
Liverpool (A) (H)
Chelsea (H) (A)
Manchester Utd (A)
Manchester City (A)
West Ham Utd (A) ?
Arsenal (A)
Tottenham Hotspur (A)
Sheffield Utd (A) ?
Current form shows that getting the required points will be a huge challenge in my opinion. Something drastic has to happen very quickly.Â
Still, an average of 5 points per calendar month should see us safe, however it is achieved...???
What a season... COYB
36 Posted 04/12/2019 at 02:37:12
37 Posted 04/12/2019 at 04:19:01
38 Posted 03/12/2019 at 04:59:25
Im fine with the fact were the underdogs expected to get hammered that Liverpool are a class in their own right..
What I'm not happy about is the doom and gloom merchants... I hope Marco pulls a rabbit out of his hat wins tge game and gets a extention to his contract same as his adopted son...
I want to see teary Bill blubber and hear Mosh say "what a manager"
Then I want to see Liverpool go off the rails like we did last season...
Then I will go down the pub and have a pint with Santa because I know he is real...
39 Posted 04/12/2019 at 05:49:48
40 Posted 04/12/2019 at 06:10:19
As for the formation we played against Leicester, you could see it most likely wasn't going to work after fifteen or twenty minutes yet Silva stupidly stuck with it. Felt sorry for Tom in midfield as he had not enough support here and so tonight we need to get back to having five in midfield.
Silva for once needs to be brave in his team selection. If Baningime is fit i'd love to see him join Tom and Denis Adeniran in the centre of midfield with Bernard out left and Richarlison on the right. We will also need the pace of DCL up top. That would leave Iwobi, Baines and Gordon to make an impact from the bench.
Despite Liverpool still being on a good run of results they are not playing that well. I believe we can go there and win tonight but so much depends on Silva getting his team selection right.
41 Posted 04/12/2019 at 06:33:28
Reluctantly I think Holgate should be taken out the firing line for this one. Also, reluctantly, I think Keane comes in alongside Mina.
I think we have to give young Kean a go but if we play him up top, or anyone else that matter, it's a waste. Has to be paired.
I know our resident experts say it's old fashioned but I'd give the RS something to think about and go 442
Pickford
Sidibe, Keane, Mina, Digne
Richie, Davies, Iwobi, Bernard/Walcott
DCL, Kean
42 Posted 04/12/2019 at 06:42:40
It's us that get stage fright every fucking time we play them. Don't forget either, we will have to play the ref, VAR and two linesmen as well.
I will bet anyone my months salary they get decision after decision and lots of dodgy ones as well.
It will not be pretty and then the red shite media darlings will wax lyrical about how they've sewn the title up and every dodgy decision was justified.
I'm proper going into hiding tonight, but if we're 3 up with 5 to go I'm legging it over the local that's full of never go the game twats.
43 Posted 04/12/2019 at 06:43:16
44 Posted 04/12/2019 at 06:51:08
45 Posted 04/12/2019 at 06:55:02
I'd give Silva the 2 derbies to win or he's gone. Glad we're booking the trend of hire and fire and trying to be patient but we can't wait for ever.
That gives him another Month and about 6 (?) Premier league games (he's had over half a season) to improve.
I'd be all in for Poch ASAP or Mancini in the summer. Otherwise if he continues to fail another short-term manager for rest of the season. Happy for that to be Unsworth if needs, Moyes, Emery, Hiddink whoever..
Sometimes a change sparks a short term improvement and we need positive change ASAP.
46 Posted 04/12/2019 at 07:20:33
47 Posted 04/12/2019 at 07:28:29
48 Posted 04/12/2019 at 07:30:13
Bernard is back but can't see him lasting more than 60mins, he gives us something different; any news on Delph ? That midfield is slow as fuck and the quick turn over against Leicester exposed our lack of pace and poor interventionist CB's (run at them with pace and Mina & Holgate struggle).
Sidibe is becoming a beast big night for him and us.
49 Posted 04/12/2019 at 07:59:17
Do what Big Joe did in 95', pick a formation or a few players they won't expect.
Personally I'd start Iwobi behind Kean, start Richarlison just off him on the left and Walcott on the right (depending on Bernard's fitness).
Crazy to start Kean?
No, the lad might be made for a big occasion and they won't know too much about his style, his personality ect ect.
Pointless starting DCL, he's played in several derbies and frankly Van Dijk has owned him, he's too nice, not in defenders faces enough or moving off the ball.
Tell Richarlison he's NOT playing hugging the touchline but close to Kean supporting him, same as Walcott/Bernard.
Iwobi needs tell to get the ball and carry it forward at every opportunity.
And just give it a right good go.
20 years without winning at Anfield is an absolute disgrace, almost a whole decade without a win in a derby full stop!
Will it ever happen again?
50 Posted 04/12/2019 at 08:14:03
BE BRAVE EVERTON, AND GO AND GET ITS REWARDS!
51 Posted 04/12/2019 at 08:14:25
I don't expect a result but who knows, when skies are grey, there may just be a glimmer of hope and a freak result.
52 Posted 04/12/2019 at 08:16:50
53 Posted 04/12/2019 at 08:34:19
There's only going to be one winner
54 Posted 04/12/2019 at 08:37:12
55 Posted 04/12/2019 at 08:37:49
Football is incredibly unpredictable...otherwise we wouldn't bother watching.
56 Posted 04/12/2019 at 08:50:03
I think we probably have
I doubt any derby has been consistently played season after season with no breaks for relegation years ect without one team winning.
How many teams go so long without winning a derby really?
It's pathetic.
It's gone like Leyton Orient v Chelsea.
57 Posted 04/12/2019 at 08:57:45
19 Merseyside derbies since an Everton victory.
Just THREE wins for Everton in the league over Liverpool this century which is now almost 20 years old.
Shocking.
58 Posted 04/12/2019 at 09:04:55
If we play a 5 man back line and leave the midfield gaps we had last weekend then we will be watching through our fingers.
442..
Pickford
Coleman, Mina, Holgate, Digne
Bernard, Iwobi, Davies, Richarlison
Kean, DCL
Blaze of glory.. what have we to lose.
59 Posted 04/12/2019 at 09:05:36
Richi wide right with Bernard left and Theo to come on later if necessary. I am torn between Moise and DCL ( no Tosun for me) and fantasise that this is the time for Moise to score.
I had a terrible sleep last night because of this game and will have to turn the sound off on the TV so I don't have to hear those gobsite( sorry) supporters of theirs. Silva sounds up for it and I have to say I admire his stoicism in the wake of such personal pressure.
Get in boys, get in!!!!
60 Posted 04/12/2019 at 09:13:34
61 Posted 04/12/2019 at 09:13:40
I just hope we don't get beat and then come on here saying how we played ok and deserved more.
62 Posted 04/12/2019 at 09:23:46
I remember everyone was over the moon after the 3-1 defeat to City in September, I couldn't see anything other than three cheap goals conceded and a handful of chances missed by DCL and Sigurdsson.
Look at what happened the week after City too, a 2-0 loss to Sheff Utd.
I'm not arsed about performances.
I hope we play absolutely dreadful tonight and win it 1-0.
What's to take from playing well and losing a derby like last years hard luck story?
63 Posted 04/12/2019 at 09:25:09
Bloody hope I'm wrong.
64 Posted 04/12/2019 at 09:28:37
65 Posted 04/12/2019 at 09:32:10
They're not playing great, but the officials and VAR are making sure they get over the line in games. That's what we need to overcome tonight, we need our players to stand up and be counted and take the (Incompetent/corrupt) officials out the equation. See the dive by chamberlain at the weekend for the free kick that set up their first goal.
DCL or anyone with a late winner would be fantastic. We're due a result there, let's get it tonight.
66 Posted 04/12/2019 at 09:33:51
I think in 1994 in Big Joe's first game football was more physical, tackles flew in for an hour before even a yellow card was brandished (some would have been straight red now)
That was the era when we were allowed to embrace the Dogs of War mentality and basically we would at times physically bully Liverpool out of it.
Over the last 15 or so years it's become more about the football and not the physical side of it and that's where we've started struggling, we haven't made the changeover whereas Liverpool have become better, more athletic and fitter.
In the 90's you would always fancy bullying the likes of Barnes, Redknapp, McAteer, McManaman out of things.
Obviously Fowler was always a big threat and Owen after that but in the main I rarely feared playing them anywhere.
Now they are all so quick, sleek, physically fine tuned and clinical it's hard to outrun them or even bully them due to tighter restrictions in tacking.
67 Posted 04/12/2019 at 09:48:56
68 Posted 04/12/2019 at 09:54:05
It is almost 50 years to the day since Everton's glide towards the League Championship was interrupted by a 0-3 home defeat inflicted by the rs, aided by poor Sandy's flying own goal. Since then, we have suffered deeply and often strangely at their hands.
The catalogue of deserved hammerings, desperately unlucky defeats, cruel cup losses, inept and/or corrupt refereeing, concession of last minute goals, truly bizarre last minute events like Origi's, McAllister's, Hutchison's, Thomas's, would be harsh to take over a lifetime of football. But to have suffered them against one club, and that club, has been torture.
Like many, I fear that football's latest sick punishment, VAR, may use its devious devices against us. I worry we may simply not be good enough. But fear in this game will lead to defeat. Our only hope is that someone at Everton, be it the manager, a coach or a player, will dismiss history, banish trepidation and do something extraordinarily special.
There will not be fear in those Evertonians attending - good luck to every Blue going there tonight. I hope you are rewarded.
69 Posted 04/12/2019 at 09:58:47
70 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:06:19
It's a fcuking horrible 1 sided lazy article that TBH I've come to expect from the BBC & red shite loving media. Regardless, if this doesn't get someone up for a game, there really is no hope. + it would save Silva a team talk!!!
71 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:10:01
72 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:11:28
I want us to get stuck in, and give it a real go, whatever the result.
73 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:14:40
It will be the little 50/50s that go their way and take momentum from us that matter overall. Same every derby.
74 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:15:11
Everton have not won at Anfield this century - their last victory a 1-0 win on 27 September 1999, courtesy of a Kevin Campbell goal - and have only left the ground with three points on seven occasions since World War Two.
It has been 19 derbies since they tasted victory at either Anfield or Goodison - when Tim Cahill and Mikel Arteta secured a 2-0 Blues home win on 17 October 2010.
75 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:20:05
76 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:24:54
My lad will be 9 next week. We have never beaten that lot in his lifetime. He has to suffer RS and other glory-grabbing fans taking the proverbial out of him. If there is a God, please let it happen. Just for once. I promise I won't gloat or rub it in RS fans' noses. I'll just quietly enjoy it and I won't get carried away thinking we're the greatest team there is. Just once. Please. It's not much to ask is it?
77 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:26:27
78 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:28:24
This is a game every man and his dog is expecting Everton to lose, never has there been so much pressure on those over the Park in getting a win and their supporters will be bricking themselves on not taking three points in this one.
Can you imagine the stick their supporters will get if they fail to nail a win.
I do not see it happening but again this is Everton, don't be suprised if we turn up for once tonight.
We have nothing to lose, ok 3 points, but so much to take out it it.
Even 45 years on and we are still talking about Carlisle doing the double over us and costing us the league title.
So anything is possible.
As the saying goes, it's a funny old game.
79 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:31:12
80 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:32:22
Realistically, though, we can't defend and we can't score, whereas LFC can do both at an elite level, plus they're at home, plus they have VAR on their side... and that's before we even consider their paranormal jamminess and our endless bad luck.
81 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:37:35
82 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:43:44
Seriously though if anyone has or knows of anyone who can't make it 07879551102
83 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:44:10
Sidebe Keane Mina Digne
Schneiderlin
Davies Iwobi
Richarlison Kean Bernard.
Set up solid, balls down the channels behind their fullbacks, ten Hail Marys and a double brandy.
84 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:45:25
85 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:48:17
I'll open the bidding with our Cenk.
Bah Humbug!
86 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:49:10
IF we win tonight, Silva can stay as long as he wants as far as I'm concerned!!
Coyb!!!!
87 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:51:54
88 Posted 04/12/2019 at 10:59:30
89 Posted 04/12/2019 at 11:03:04
More importantly, If you had read the first sentence, you should have comprehended, that the content of what I posted was dictated by the original author.
90 Posted 04/12/2019 at 11:04:28
I expect it to be a compact 4-4-2 when defending with little space between the lines of 4 and both wide players doing their bit defensively. I then expect both wingers to break if we turn over the ball with both central midfielders pretty much holding their positions.
Personally I'd play:
Pickford
Coleman – I fancy him more than Sidibe in a derby
Digne
Mina
Holgate – I think he'll get under Firmino's skin
Davies
Schneiderlin – and tell him to cover the area in front of the centre-backs
Bernard – if fit; if not then Walcott
Richarlison
Sigurdsson – for his pressing off the ball
Calvert-Lewin – the only player with the attributes to cause Van Dijk problems and bring others into play.
Won't be popular but we've proved time and again it works against better opposition.
91 Posted 04/12/2019 at 11:10:24
Pickford
Sidibe Holgate Mina Keane Digne
Iwobi Davies Sigurdsson Richarlison
Calvert-Lewin
Of course the widemen are all attacking so it's a 3-4-3 as much as 5-4-1. Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin should play 45 minutes each and cram the effort they do into 90 into 45 and that might be enough to do the job between them! I would prefer Delph, but he's out, Gbamin's out, Gomes is out, and even Baningime is out.
I don't like Iwobi through the middle unless it's in an advanced midfield role and the more I see of him, the less convinced I am of him. Great in flashes, but a liability at times with his careless passing. What's the point in all the good he does if he just gives it away in such dangerous circumstances. He can't be risked through the middle, he needs to be high up the pitch or out wide.
There's reasons to be optimistic though:
1. Liverpool have already awarded themselves the title
2. They consider these 3 easy points;
3. Since "winning the league" against Man City, they have been unconvincing against Palace, Napoli and Brighton;
4. If our players really want to save Silva's job, then a win would go a long way towards that;
5. If our players want to get rid of the anger at Goodison, then a win will go a long way towards that too;
6. Alisson is missing following the red card, so is Fabino with injury;
7. The luck has to change sometime, they cannot keep being lucky, and lucky against us, and us unlucky, and particularly unlucky against them, we are due one.
Sorry, tried to list 10 things, but lucky 7 will do!
92 Posted 04/12/2019 at 11:14:49
93 Posted 04/12/2019 at 11:19:25
94 Posted 04/12/2019 at 11:45:08
95 Posted 04/12/2019 at 11:49:24
As we often get a player sent off to make us less competitive Silva might do the ref's job for him by picking Schneiderlin making us start with 10 men. Add Sigurdsson and Walcott into the mix and it's 11 vs 8. If the RS start slowly, they will be given their customary penalty to get them started.
That's before they need to even think of deploying their new terror weapon VAR. If by some miracle, we are drawing or God forbid even winning against the FA's decreed Champions there is also the new rule that extra time be extended until the RS score. So we need to be 2-0 up or score in the 98th minute at 0-0 to get a result.
And then cruelest of all there is the Twighlight Zone ability of one of our own to completely and inexplicably fuck-up at a crucial time.
For all that, I'm dreaming of Richarlison or Calvert-Lewin scoring a Sharpy 1984 in the 98th minute to redress by a tiny amount the injustices of past years.
Every Blue, whatever the odds, will be shouting for us tonight and we will have every football-loving neutral on the planet behind us as well.
COYB.
96 Posted 04/12/2019 at 11:52:03
l agree with you that the formation is likely staying the same. It worked quite well and gave us something to build on. I can't see Iwobi keeping his place over Walcott, and l would also expect Siggy to drop out for Morgan. That is unless Sigurdsson is played further forward.
Of course anytime we have anything to build on after a loss it's normally changed instead of tinkered with.
I'm guessing Tosun, or anyone coming into this team only gets two bites.
We are not without a chance tonight. I want some shots on goal to test Adrian.
I'm going for Mina first scorer. And a 0-1...
97 Posted 04/12/2019 at 11:55:51
Low key is right. To Sky, the game is a "product" they will always ignore anything they cannot sell: Champions League, World Cups, English football pre 1992.
I often felt the gulf between the 2 clubs in past 3 decades but never more than this week, but maybe, just maybe, there is a god?
1-3 (Richarlison x 2)
98 Posted 04/12/2019 at 12:05:42
I'm fearful for their safety because if they maul us, I'll maul them.
99 Posted 04/12/2019 at 12:10:36
The last time Everton won away in the league at Mordor was about 1975. At least it feels like it.
This blind faith in our shitty team to win over there is beyond me, but fair play to you for being so positive!
100 Posted 04/12/2019 at 12:12:01
101 Posted 04/12/2019 at 12:12:18
102 Posted 04/12/2019 at 12:17:22
Why can't it work the other way for once?
103 Posted 04/12/2019 at 12:19:30
104 Posted 04/12/2019 at 12:21:59
My issues with the formation are when two things happen:
1. We turn the ball over while our wingbacks are higher up the pitch. If Mina, whom I like, has an awful game again as he did on Sunday, when that happens we are entirely too vulnerable when turning the ball over (see goal #1 against Sunday). If we had a VVD back there, those screw ups would be in a safe pair of hands.
2. Our two midfielders are asked to do a hellava lot in this formation, and they'll get tired. Silva has to recognize who to sub out, and not "pull a Skater boi faux pax" and leave Tom (or whomever is tired in this game) in entirely too long.
If Mina is on his game, we limit turnovers, and Silva gets his subs right, we'll be in it. But the margin for error is razor-thin.
Maybe instruct the wingbacks to hold back more against a very potent opponent, and move Iwobe inside when a midfield sub is needed, bringing Morgan on very late if needed for the other central midfielder?
Last comment. For the love of all things Blue, please lay the fuck off Tom Davies, you negative haters out there. He's going to turn the ball over - fucking Messi losses possession or makes a wayward pass every now and again. Why some, I've noticed mostly local Blues, feel the need to absolutely crucify this kid the second he makes a single wayward pass, is absolutely beyond me. It's seriously disgusting the treatment this kid gets. He's talented, he's Blue, he's the future, he's presently your only hope in midfield, and yet many here rip the kid to shreds and he can't do a single thing right.
Tom Davies has played superbly since Gomes was injured. He turned the ball over for goal number one last weekend, but Mina & Co. in the back looked terrible while they attempted to defend. Goal #2 our manager should have NEVER had him on the pitch - he'd run so hard for his Club the poor kid could barely move at the end of the game.
Seriously, get off the kid's back already. Eat your own young, some of you.
105 Posted 04/12/2019 at 12:22:18
Or it'll be 0-0. It's been 0-0 a few times lately eh.
None of my lines of thinking have us winning tonight. This feels like the stark reality of things.
106 Posted 04/12/2019 at 12:39:59
Spoiler alert: Moshiri wanted Zaha against Brands wishes. Moshiri does not come across well in the article. However, it's all hearsay from unnamed sources. The authors are Paddy Boyland and Greg O'Keefe who are ex-echo reporters and both big blues, with great connections.
107 Posted 04/12/2019 at 12:43:50
To be quite honest. Greg O'Keefe is a brown-nose Echo Boy that has either talked a load of nonsense or never backed the fans' gripes with the club, so I wouldn't rely on him for anything.
Let's stick together today, Blues. I wish you all a fair night with as little anger as possible.
Simon @98, you are one brave man or maybe a saint? Once kick-off has passed, I can't look at them alien pricks and I am related to a few.
Spew them too.
108 Posted 04/12/2019 at 12:48:36
I like O'Keefe but that's because I knew him when he was a lowly court reporter for the Echo and we used to discuss all things Everton. I suppose you could say we both talked nonsense together!
109 Posted 04/12/2019 at 12:49:50
110 Posted 04/12/2019 at 12:53:05
Keane and Mina need to be careful tonight in the box - both can be clumsy at times.
My fear is it'll be going okay until Mane, Salah or some other gobshite will go flying to the floor with the slightest touch in search of a penalty. You all know what happens next.
112 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:11:51
Fair enough, Steve, you are allowed to like whoever mate. I lost time for him after seeing him on Twitter lose an argument to someone I know that's thick as a pig's bum.
I wondered how he earned a wage after that but he isn't alone. The Echo is full of social media researchers, looking for an easy script of heat of the moment opinions.
113 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:21:42
VAR has made ‘big team' favouritism so much easier to implement and it's been a massive factor in them being so far clear at the top.
We've always known it and had to live with it, now Guardiola and all at Man City know it too.
114 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:23:44
James - 105 Best laugh I've had today. If it wasn't so sad to be a blue it would be hilarious.
However, got a good feeling about tonight. I don't know why because I do every week but to day seems different
...there's something in the air
We've got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution's here, and you know it's right
And you know that it's right
We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together now
Lock up the streets and houses
Because there's something in the air
We've got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution's here, and you know it's right
And you know that it's right...
...TONIGHT Blues.
Nurse !
[BRZ]
115 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:24:30
I couldn't understand in the immediate aftermath how, as some did, he was found at fault on both goals. Pickford was also picked out by some as being at fault on the first goal because his 70-metre goal kick fell to a Leicester player, thus 'cheaply' turning over the ball.
That Leceister player's headed clearance fell between two competing midfielders near the centre circle in their half, Tom being the Everton player. The Leicester player won out. It happens, for goodness sake!
They were still 60 metres from our goal, our defensive set up was not totally awry (although Sidibe on our right flank was quickly made redundant because he was so far advanced). Digne, Keane, Mina and Holgate were back in defence. Sigurdsson was also covering.
The key moment for me was Holgate's poor awareness and positioning in relation to Vardy. Now Holgate had an otherwise good game for the most part, but when they attack down our left flank, Holgate KNOWS Jamie Vardy is behind him on the right because he looks behind him and sees him. But Holgate doesn't check his run towards the centre of our penalty, when he should have tracked Vardy and got tighter to him. That way the goal doesn't happen.
The winning goal I would concede Tom Davies is more culpable because, even though he loses cheap possession and it's 60 metres from our goal, the turnover gives Leicester runners at an over-exposed defence. But as you note, there were further mitigating circumstances.
I said before a ball was kicked when the line-up was announced that Tom Davies was going to be a busy boy. And he was. But people dwell on a couple of stray passes and ignore the many sharp forward passes that Tom makes EVERY game, never mind the shift he puts in.
It was obvious Tom was running on fumes with 20 minutes to go. Leicester started overrunning us in midfield. Both he and Sigurdsson were on yellow cards so couldn't afford to make any cheap fouls and risk a second yellow and a red card. But Silva didn't sub either of them when it was needed.
And exactly as he did at Brighton when we also lost to a last-minute goal, Silva was not pragmatic in his management of the team, playing away at difficult opponents, deep into injury time, on for a vital point, he was still allowing his full-backs to steam forward.
That heavily exposed us when Tom's intended pass was turned over and Leicester and VAR did the rest.
The loss was cruel. But it was, IMO, more on the manager than on Tom Davies for his poor substitutions and passiveness in reacting to how Leicester changed their tactics and the dynamics of the game.
116 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:34:53
I concur 100% with everything you say, and far more descriptively and eloquently than I.
At any rate, I often have “feelings†predictively before games. I almost knew we'd blow it against Norwich.
For some reason I think we are going to acquit ourselves well today. That's not saying I think we will win. I actually don't think we will. But I think the players will be up for it no matter what the lineup.
In the end, they have more quality and that will be the difference. Hopefully I'm wrong. But minimally I'm holding to hope, as I do believe we will come out firing and ready to put in 100%.
117 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:37:31
118 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:42:53
Atkinson is the cheat, I mean ref, watching the VAR so we are fucked even if there was the slightest minuscule chance these bunch of lazy useless fuckers decided to turn up and play football. It's going to be a fucking mauling.
119 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:44:29
Hilarious
Kenwright obviously been taking journos out to lunch.
120 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:49:33
121 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:53:23
I remember the total non-support he and his Echo mates gave us during the Blue Union time and the arguments with the Club. A tosser, but then that's only my opinion
122 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:53:33
123 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:54:22
"Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin should play 45 minutes each and cram the effort they do in 90 into 45 "
Schneiderlin could cram the effort he does in 90 minutes into 45 seconds and he would still look like my TV was stuck on slow motion..
124 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:54:30
Love it lad. Goals from???
125 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:58:10
126 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:58:22
I've read all these teams and everyone has missed the man who always gets a goal for Silva against this mob... Yeah, Oumar!
127 Posted 04/12/2019 at 13:59:51
128 Posted 04/12/2019 at 14:00:06
If his lads are season ticket holders as well as all the other stuff we've heard about Dean, how the hell is he allowed to ref this game? Surely that alone must preclude him?
Unbelievable, absolutely unbelievable.
129 Posted 04/12/2019 at 14:10:18
Absolutely furthers the point.
130 Posted 04/12/2019 at 14:13:28
Just earn your fucking money for once. If all the fans supporting you performed as you do they would be sacked from their chosen occupations without the huge life-changing payoffs you earn.
131 Posted 04/12/2019 at 14:18:52
132 Posted 04/12/2019 at 14:19:01
Now I am presuming that we work on these set pieces at Finch farm, and the big advantage from set pieces is you should know exactly were the ball will be aimed, which our opponents don't. So you would think that we should get a better return from the set pieces than we do at present.
133 Posted 04/12/2019 at 14:23:41
134 Posted 04/12/2019 at 14:27:18
135 Posted 04/12/2019 at 14:28:09
That apart, on paper and everything else you choose to look at we havn't a cat in hell's chance tonight, their too strong for us up front.
That's the logical me, but the other me is hoping for a minor/major miracle and we stuff them.
136 Posted 04/12/2019 at 14:35:28
137 Posted 04/12/2019 at 14:40:31
Without wishing to sound like a defeatist. We can't score against Sheff U, Villa or Norwich.
A Lucas Digne throw to a sliced clearance back of the post deflected in by a pork pie will do me.
We need Duncan, Tim and Bill in Stockley park tonight.
COYBB
138 Posted 04/12/2019 at 14:43:11
139 Posted 04/12/2019 at 14:46:27
Not interested in substitutions.
If we don't compete one to eleven we're goosed
140 Posted 04/12/2019 at 14:48:18
I normally get a good feeling about the derby. Followed by a good drubbing.
I don't have any hope so
141 Posted 04/12/2019 at 14:53:36
142 Posted 04/12/2019 at 15:05:50
143 Posted 04/12/2019 at 15:07:45
Agreed. I'm at work so will have to watch updates on BBC News. I can see it all now .
3 mins, frenetic start, Mane inches wide
11mins, Everton settling now having the better of possession
15 mins Schneiderlin yellow card for a late tackle
31 mins PENALTY! Salah converts
50 mins RED CARD Schneiderlin head butts ref
51 mins Silva subs Kean on as goalie for Pickford
89 mins 2-0 Mane
90 mins 3-0 Salah
91 mins Coleman red card
92 mins 4-0 Milner
93 mins 5-0 Salah
94 mins 6-0 Salah
95 mins Stadium update from DBB
96 mins Sig says "we need to stick together"
97 mins meltdown on ToffeeWeb
98 mins someone on ToffeeWeb says "let's have some perspective, we were unlucky."
144 Posted 04/12/2019 at 15:20:07
This is the second time I have to say, I had no idea.
Twice in one thread! Well played, M'man.
[BRZ]
145 Posted 04/12/2019 at 15:32:43
In all these years, I never knew that Bernard Hill - Yosser 'Gissa Job' Hughes - appeared in Lord of the Rings.
Jamie C, I've shared the link before, but if you want to watch the two TV dramas of 'Boys From the Black Stuff' - and it would be time well invested, trust me - try these:
If you want sharp cutting edge insight into the social plight of Liverpool at the time of Everton's mid-80s success Jamie, this will give it to you in spades.
You might struggle without sub-titles, mind! But then, your Irish-American will probably help you out!
Yosser Hughes - Bernard Hill - is the standout tragic-comic figure throughout.
146 Posted 04/12/2019 at 15:33:17
My heart says we are long overdue a result at Mordor but my head says we will be knackered after the fruitless effort on Sunday, an injury ravaged squad to choose from, a manager that cant get team selection or tactics right and whose in game management is suspect and to top all that our seat allocation has been reduced meaning our support will not be as evident.
My oh my the joys of being a Blue.
But nevertheless we are EVERTON and good will prevail evil (or so I was taught) so I have a feeling (hope) that we may be pleasantly surprised tonight.
COYB
147 Posted 04/12/2019 at 15:33:17
My heart says we are long overdue a result at Mordor but my head says we will be knackered after the fruitless effort on Sunday, an injury ravaged squad to choose from, a manager that cant get team selection or tactics right and whose in game management is suspect and to top all that our seat allocation has been reduced meaning our support will not be as evident.
My oh my the joys of being a Blue.
But nevertheless we are EVERTON and good will prevail evil (or so I was taught) so I have a feeling (hope) that we may be pleasantly surprised tonight.
COYB
148 Posted 04/12/2019 at 15:34:47
149 Posted 04/12/2019 at 15:37:47
Let's face it, not one of our players would even get in their squad.
Beyond that we are playing against the crowd, a bent referee and if all else fails, there's always the safety net of VAR.
150 Posted 04/12/2019 at 15:38:27
151 Posted 04/12/2019 at 15:43:59
[BRZ]
152 Posted 04/12/2019 at 15:49:14
Try to watch them in the order I listed. I (think) I placed them in the right sequence.
The first one was a standalone 90 minute pilot when a group of friends were contracted - in good times - to work asphalting over the Pennines. It all unravels and sets the scene for the follow up drama and episodes which exclusively take place in the stark, dark days of 1980s Liverpool.
An absolute classic. Watch out for the scene when Yosser Hughes meets Graham Souness. Souness later said he was chatting with Bernard Hill before the scene was shot and thought 'What a lovely fellah!' When it came to shooting the scene and the actor turned into the manic and desperate Yosser Hughes, Souness said he was genuinely afraid of the guy, so convincing was he in his role.
153 Posted 04/12/2019 at 15:52:56
154 Posted 04/12/2019 at 15:52:57
That's a perfect line-up, and given the names, 4-2-3-1 formation.
At least the RS will get their first home clean sheet.
155 Posted 04/12/2019 at 15:54:06
The scary part is that a lot of it could come true!
156 Posted 04/12/2019 at 15:59:14
157 Posted 04/12/2019 at 16:03:15
The Athletic is a pay site, so I doubt anyone pays for it (besides obviously Steve and me), so thus didn't read it.
Several guess that it poses a narrative that goes against their personal beliefs because of the authors, and come to the conclusion that it's crap. Without reading it. I just can't.
158 Posted 04/12/2019 at 16:03:46
TYVM! I will click and bookmark for future viewing.
Liverpool of the 80s fascinates me. Great history lesson for adopted Blues.
The "Scouse accent" won't phase me much. I pick up about 90% of it. My recently passed mate's wife has a really, really thick accent (to my ears). I understand her perfectly - it took years of convos and watching all these highlights and clips on youtube, etc. Still to this day occasionally, she'll rattle off something at lightning speed and I've NO idea what she's said. Not a clue.
I just tell her to slow down and repeat, for Yank ears.
Works a charm.
Thanks again.
159 Posted 04/12/2019 at 16:04:31
160 Posted 04/12/2019 at 16:09:19
I think links number 3 and 4 (from top down) are duplicates.
161 Posted 04/12/2019 at 16:25:50
Just seen Bob Willis has died, a sad day. That Headingley test match was a great few days. sorry to interrupt the thread
162 Posted 04/12/2019 at 16:31:46
163 Posted 04/12/2019 at 16:31:53
[BRZ]
164 Posted 04/12/2019 at 16:32:01
Some are listed as a complete standalone episode, others are listed as episodes x, part 1 and 2.
Talking of nostalgia binge viewing, having made the comment on the Brands backing Silva thread the other day that his blazer reminded me of Patrick McGoohan in 'The Prisoner', I'm working my way through all 17 episodes of that too now!
Considering it first aired 55 years on a cheap budget, it is astonishingly well-produced and eerily predictive of (at that time) unheard of technology and the political climate we currently live under.
OK! OK! I'll stop with the video reviews for now!
Here's hoping there will be no further talk of video reviews at the end of 90 minutes tonight after Blues break their Anfield hoodoo.
[BRZ]
165 Posted 04/12/2019 at 16:34:47
166 Posted 04/12/2019 at 16:42:21
167 Posted 04/12/2019 at 16:47:10
Absolutely brilliant series, catching Thatchers Britain in the north, will make you laugh and also cry mate, but when you get time, put it down on your to do list.
168 Posted 04/12/2019 at 16:58:08
169 Posted 04/12/2019 at 16:58:18
...and we still haven't won a league game at Mordor since 1999?
170 Posted 04/12/2019 at 17:00:49
I'm wearing my home kit instead of my away kit, trying to use some good old fashion unfounded superstition here.
171 Posted 04/12/2019 at 17:06:12
There's ZERO need to apologize!
Anyone who's hit one of those links can easily see the progression in file names, and get any missing episodes from that site / elsewhere on the internet.
Only mentioned so people don't duplicate.
Thanks again. Very nice of you. I'll be watching soon.
172 Posted 04/12/2019 at 17:09:49
I can't believe it but I'm optimistic about tonight and have a feeling that we're going to beat them and Moisie will break his duck.
I think I'm also stark raving mad, going to stick a couple of quid on it just in case I've had an epiphany!
173 Posted 04/12/2019 at 17:27:21
https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-everton-v-liverpool-1902-1902-online
Cheered me up anyway.
Apparently Herr Klopp wants a VAR review of the first three goals.
An if ya know yer history!
Repeat performance please.
COYB
[BRZ]
174 Posted 04/12/2019 at 17:40:04
I was wrong about 'The Prisoner' first being aired 55 years ago. It's only...52 years!!! First broadcast in September 1967.
Where do the days-weeks-months-years-decades keep going?
As if anybody can't guess, I'm getting antsy now.
Just want the game to KO and lose myself in footy for a couple of hours.
COYFB!!!! It's TIME!!!!
175 Posted 04/12/2019 at 17:52:37
176 Posted 04/12/2019 at 18:15:55
You must know by know, you could write the most informed post on here with info that people claim to clamour for, but make a spelling mistake or get a date wrong?
That is a hanging offence! 😂😋
Jay I always read your posts with interest, and appreciate them, occasionally a bit too much information, but what the hell!
177 Posted 04/12/2019 at 18:17:56
178 Posted 04/12/2019 at 18:24:28
179 Posted 04/12/2019 at 18:26:05
180 Posted 04/12/2019 at 18:29:30
181 Posted 04/12/2019 at 18:37:15
As I said it's weird, come kick off I'll probably be manic, but at the moment, mellow as.
182 Posted 04/12/2019 at 18:45:42
:0)
183 Posted 04/12/2019 at 18:45:46
Come On You Mighty Blues, kick start our December
184 Posted 04/12/2019 at 18:52:30
Young Gordon in his trackie great for him being on the bench with luck.
Interviewing all the RS supporters, so far NOT a single one with a local accent !
185 Posted 04/12/2019 at 18:58:34
Personally, I still love the excitement and if we play well and score a few goals, I'll be getting my money's worth.
If he plays the usual conservative team that includes Morgan, Gylfi and Calvert-Lewin we have no chance.
But, with the 5-3-2 formation that includes Kean, Sidibe (in his wing-back role), and a returning Bernard, we give ourselves the possibility of a revelation and a new start. It's remote, but a possibility.
Marco HAS to roll the dice tonight. He literally has nothing to lose and EVERYTHING to gain.
Pickford
Sidibe
Keane
Mina
Holgate
Digne
Davies
Gordan
Bernard
Richarlison
Kean
COYB's.
186 Posted 04/12/2019 at 18:59:06
187 Posted 04/12/2019 at 19:12:00
188 Posted 04/12/2019 at 19:15:36
Amazon's format is decent. They've spent some money on this. Just would change a load of the pundits. Only Martinez on our side here!
189 Posted 04/12/2019 at 19:16:33
We are unchanged.
190 Posted 04/12/2019 at 19:17:18
191 Posted 04/12/2019 at 19:17:43
We place our faith in these guys and hope that one of these seasons we will be rewarded.
192 Posted 04/12/2019 at 19:18:53
[BRZ]
193 Posted 04/12/2019 at 19:24:07
194 Posted 04/12/2019 at 19:48:22
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1 Posted 03/12/2019 at 17:51:58
Well look it is a two horse race so you never know, If the RS don't show up etc etc
We could catch them on an off night. However If they do turn up, I am fearfull of what may happen
Lets hope its the former instead of the latter, Anybody good at saying Rosaries ???
COYB