Moshiri at Finch Farm to hold Silva talks

Hmm… I wonder. 🙄

Or maybe not.

That causes concern on two fronts, not just that Silva remains, but it also hints that he does not have anyone lined up to come in immediately.

So, if true, I wonder what the split would be on Silva or Moyes for the next game.

Not biting the bullet now is merely delaying the inevitable. Silva is a piss poor manager on so many fronts.

Just do it.

I remember being excited when Moyes walked in the door, called us the People's Club and got Unsworth scoring in the first few minutes against Fulham. Football has changed and Moyes hasn't.

Please don't bring him back.

I'm deeply concerned for our future. We're heading to be the next Leeds United or Nottingham Forest.

Boy's pen Bill has sent out for a Pantomime Horse's Outfit, a Mankini, a Bottle of Gin, and a round of sandwiches, what the f*** is that all about?

Not that it will probably bother them. They'll be more interested in getting home safely in their Ferrari's and Bentley's to check their bank balances.

Noticed the current voting on the Grand Old Team poll for / against Moyes returning:

1348 Yes
5812 No

That is a landslide & echo's the sentiment on here after Norwich when the rumours surfaced then.

Why make a hugely unpopular decision & potentially bad footballing one given his recent record? If the club's media team are monitoring the web & social media to gather data & advise, you'd think they'd listen . oh wait, it's Everton. Moyes it is then.

Either the bloke they have in mind can do the sodding job or he can't. So having some boring turd "minding the coats" makes bugger all sense.

And as DoF then surely Brands must already have some names to discuss positively with The Mosh, I mean that is his job isn't it ?

Last bloody thing we need is bloody Widow Twanky interfering unless The Mosh & Brands preface Bills input with "Whatever the gushing one says is an automatic NO!"

If we thought a shit start to the season, getting tonked at Anfiled and dropping into the bottom three was embarassing, now we have to stand by with our kecks down as the three stooges appoint fuckin Arthur Arsekey !

"Matron, my revolver, set one less place for supper. I'm taking a stroll in the woods".

But the big one is fear. This is rarely a major component of news stories, texts or speeches, but it is very high on TW at the moment. The profile for Michael's report and the BTL comments has exactly the same profile as does Lyndon's.

At least we are consistent. We are fearful.

The performance of the whole club at the moment is woeful. We've absolutely spunked £500 million on crap players. The money for Bramley-Moore Dock will probably go on players now and we'll still be at Goodison Park in 20 years time. I hope Moshiri and his henchmen give them both barrels.

Both barrels?

Yes Danny they were savaged with the feather duster Bill Kenwright passed to Moshiri.

The fact that most consider Digne one of are best players just about sums this wreckage of a Club up.

Of course it shouldn't be a simple as that and we should have someone else/better in mind, but I wonder what other people's views would be if it came down to this -

Give Silva more time, or have Moyes on the sidelines at Goodison this weekend??

Whose fault, Silva, coaches, Brands, lack of decent academy players, doesn't matter, we are where we are with a 3rd rate squad and even if Klopp came in he couldn't save us !

Can a big boss not tell his staff that what they are producing is not good enough?

Can a big boss not tell his staff that they will be replaced if they don’t improve?

The players might well be able to throw Silva under the bus. If I was Moshiri, I would make it clear that they will not throw him under a bus. He can afford to let them rot in the reserves if required. They either buck up, or rot in the reserves.

Made me chuckle anyway.

What was it John McEnroe said at Wimbledon?

Suicide rates would hit an all time record high, Global Warming would increase, we're doomed, we're doomed!

Marco Silva appears to be done in England – but he remains a managerial mystery

It sums up this shit show perfectly.

I remember saying to Tony A and his dad at one of the get-togethers (after the 4-0 win against Man Utd I think) that I felt Silva was the man and I thought he'd take us onwards and upwards and be here for some significant time. How wrong could I be?

Thing is I find myself numb and not knowing what or who to want. It's a feeling of total and utter despair that has been with me for weeks and has been getting worse the worse we've done.

I sometimes wish I could walk away because this is fucking affecting my life in a really bad way.

I was looking forward to a really good Christmas but some chance of that! Am I a fucking idiot for letting it mean so much?

Yes it can! Gollom leading us into Mordor!

He took a knife to a gunfight last time he was with us, and that was him at his peak. He's older and tired, so what would it be now? Moyes with his feather duster into that flamethrower fight we had last night with the RS?

Amateur hour continues.

First off Silva needs to go. I've never seen a manager so out of his depth.. I'm not even sure he will be gone at this point. Any new manager won't even have a training session before our next game. If Silva is here still, l will back Chelsea. If he isn't, then l'm backing the blues.

Also a watchful eye on Richarlison. Who I'd pair with Kean. Have lwobi behind them. Davies and Bernard together in midfield. Schneiderlin sitting deep and under instruction to find runners ahead, if they are moving. And a back 4.

We have to play 3 in midfield, not at the back. Control the game. And fuck me, this supporting the blues is hard graft. I think Moshiri came to drop of Christmas cards.

So given the choice between Silva and Moyes who do you want?

Neither. Rhino or Dunc for me. This is ridiculous, Silva should have been given the boot last night. We used to laugh at Moyes for his dithering, but he moved like the Flash compared to this slow motion car crash.

What a joke.

Moyes would keep us up just by tightening up the defence but agree it would be a backward step.

IMO - I like the idea of Marcello Gallado or Bielsa.

I can't cope with not knowing. The silence is killing me.

Alarm bells should have been ringing then, and shouldn't really have stopped ringing. Brands and others are delaying, prevaricating and coming across like haven't got a clear idea what to do.

That's nothing against Moyes the person, just Moyes the manager.

He done a job for us at the time but I think he couldn't do that again now.

If it's to be anyone else, then that'll take time and no guarantee they'll get who they want. Look how long it takes to sign players, and what we end up with.

I think we'll get an interim manager, most likely Moyes.

Keep your chin up mate, you never know this time next week we could have Diego Simeone as our manager and Warren Buffet as our new owner after having completely cleared out the board of wingnuts and dingbats and feeling in a generous mood.

It's "Operation Goodison Exercise" all over. If anything epitomizes the utter brain-dead mindlessness of screaming that out at every game... does any other Premier League club find it necessary to do that during each and every home match?

Maybe Ged the Steward could explain it...

It's not really been mentioned but I think, as much as losing Gueye and Zouma has hurt us, losing Silva's experienced assistant manager has been a problem. That same Number 2 is doing very well with a little team back in Portugal now. Was he the driving force?

They don't confirm to the rules we have to adhere to. Martinez, Koeman and soon to be, Silva, reinforces my theory. They haven't performed, what are rhe consequences for them?

I'm sure the £60k a week, the players get paid, lessens the blow of sitting in the reserves

This has now stretched out so long as to be beyond absurd. Everton 2019 folks, we can't hire people and then we can't fire them either.

A total total joke.

If I had my way, I would get Peter Reid, Tim Cahill and Roy Keane, yes, Roy Keane, in at Finch Farm and on the sideline for a match or two...

Then that cretin announcer bleats out "Give a Great Big Goodison Welcome to returning hero, David Elizbeth Moyes!"

The wedding between Diego Simeone and Atletico appears to be over, but as someone earlier noted, he'll be off to Arsenal with our luck.

Yes, Kieran @ 73, Louis van Gaal was the coach at AZ, but it was Marcel Brands who assembled the team.
PSV were on the ropes when he took over there.
He turned things around, with the academy finally bringing players through.
You'll not find anyone in our country echoing your words, it'll be the opposite.

As for the mess at our club, we can only wait and hope.

They will say it's them being supportive but in reality they are hanging him out to dry by making sure he finishes this tough stretch of fixtures, before a new victim is installed.

No real coincidence that he wanted to prove he is his own man, and not Silva's teddy bear, yet he has done well at his new Club, what has Silva done?

Never ever understood what that was; at first, I thought a fan had left their car light on or something.

No such announcements at any other Premier League club...…..more amateur hour stuff from us no doubt.

I've been a supporter since 1978 and if he comes back, that's it for me. Divorce. I'll invest my support elsewhere such as Rugby League or lower division football.

This would also indicate that they're not in favor of making an interim panic move like Moyes would represent. And allow them to mirror the Spurs by firing Silva / announcing the hire of his replacement in the same week or even same press conference.

It's still speculation on my part but I believe it makes the most sense. Yes it'd be class if they told us that as fans, but if we're honest, that's an unreasonable expectation.

You're the American fan are you not? Have you been to Goodison when the air is thick and toxic?

Silva looked like he was about to vomit at the tin mine last night. Silva sitting in the dugout against Frank Lampard's young team is to me, unfathomable. It would be completely pointless and counter productive, and really really piss off the natives.

1. To be informed SIlva is staying and get a rocket off Moshiri for their shocking play.

or

2. To meet the new manager, which if this is the case it must have to be Moyes as no one else could possible be around anyway at this short notice.

I'm having a hard time determining which has reached maximum fever pitch; desire for Silva to be gone or the utter ridiculousness on the topic from the interwebs.

Who knows? All I know is we cannot get this wrong, and letting Moyes get even one foot in the door, particularly on the rumoured top 10 and I get the job full time contract, is wrong, very wrong.

oh well, he gone

Not just Brands, they can all go. Every one of them

What clubs do you consult for on transfers Mark G?

Should Moyes return, interim basis or not, my 33 year love affair with the club is well and truly over.

Moyes coming back says everything to me. It speaks loud and clear...this club has no ambition, with no intention of challenging or winning in the future.

As such, all hope is extinguished. It’s game over and I’m completely out...

You were right to call it out.

On an unrelated note, was it you that speculated thirty minutes ago that Silva himself was the caretaker / interim manager?

Moyes favourite as interim

And...breath in.

Hold it...hold it...hold it!

Who is his replacement?

7,884 fans voted.

YES: 1,478 (18.75%)
NO: 6,406 (81.25%)

Forget that. We're a laughing stock whatever happens.

Sure I've seen you on Match Days in the same garb! 😂😘

Madness to agree long term contracts in the knowledge they will not be fulfilled. They have to be earned (although I realise football doesn't really operate like that.)

Now Dunc - grab some players around the neck (think leicester kraut midfielder)

Their performances have been just fucking awful, the only player trying last night was Richarlison, like they can not even pass the fucking ball to each other a lot of the time.

Moshiri apparently has told the players " the club needs you to step up " while the awaiting on the next managerial appointment.
Fucking Moshiri should have stepped up after Norwich home defeat if not before.

For me, I was always wary of Silva's appointment, his record in the premier league was awful.
Moshiri's reign to date has been a total fucking shambles and it has set us back in my opinion.
I also agree with those who say that Silva was hung out to dry by the club this week.

The next appointment will be Moyes I believe !