Duncan Ferguson will take charge of his first Premier League match as manager following the dismissal of Marco Silva
Everton begin life without Marco Silva with a difficult assignment against Chelsea and Duncan Ferguson in the dugout as caretaker manager.
Silva was dismissed yesterday following a meeting with Farhad Moshiri￼ and Ferguson, a first-team coach under the four previous managers, put in temporary charge while the club seeks a permanent successor to the Portuguese.
Like David Unsworth in 2016, it will be the first time Ferguson will have taken charge of a Premier League fixture, but, in elevating a beloved former player at a time when the team is in desperate need of points, the Everton hierarchy will hope to have ensured a raucous atmosphere at Goodison Park when the teams run out at lunchtime on Saturday.
The Scot will have just one full training session with the squad before he decides on his first starting lineup and it will be intriguing to see which players and formation he selects and how closely they tack to the ones typically selected by Silva.
Ferguson's biggest challenge will be the same as that which faced Silva in his last two matches, however — namely the lack of reliable midfield options given the injuries to Andre Gomes, Fabian Delph and Jean-Philip Gbamin.
Tom Davies and Gylfi Sigurdsson have started each of the last two games in the middle of the park but the Iceland international, in particular, has disappointed given his role as captain and supposed leader while Davies has struggled alongside him. While Sigurdsson has played as a “six” for previous clubs and at international level, he has been found wanting in that role for Everton and, once again, it will be interesting to see whether Morgan Schneiderlin, a more natural defensive midfielder, gets the nod this time.
The Frenchman started each of the last two games on the bench and came on as a second-half substitute and it remains to be seen whether Ferguson feels he is worthy of a start given the paucity of other options. Delph is expected to be ruled out again with the hamstring strain he sustained against Tottenham last month.
It's also impossible to know from the outside whether Ferguson will opt for three centre-halves, as Silva did at the King Power Stadium and Anfield, or whether he will return to a 4-2-3-1, ideally with Alex Iwobi in the No 10 slot. The Nigerian has attracted criticism from some quarters for his performances recently but he remains one of the Blues' most effective attacking players and has been involved in goals in each of the last three games despite being played out of his favoured central position.
It's not out of the question, however, that the interim boss, as a striker himself, goes with some version of 4-4-2, with two strikers or Richarlison playing off the centre-forward. It's a guess as to whether he would go with Dominic Calvert-Lewin, a No 9 in his mould, or the pacier Moise Kean who has been bright on his two showings as a sub in recent days.
Chelsea have been unexpectedly strong in Frank Lampard's first season. Expected to struggle with the loss of Eden Hazard, a transfer embargo preventing new signings over the summer, and a host of young players needing to be bedded in, the Stamford Bridge playing legend has the Londoners in fourth place, six points clear of Wolves below them.
They lost at home to West Ham on Saturday, a result that should give Everton hope for this weekend, but bounced back with a 2-1 victory over Aston Villa on Wednesday evening. They have been strong on the road against teams in the lower half this season, winning at Watford, Burnley, Southampton, and Norwich but have conceded 21 times so far, more than any team in the top seven.
With this being a home game, no-one knowing what to expect now that Silva is gone and Ferguson is in charge, and the home fans up for giving the Big Man a rousing debut, there's every reason to optimistic that Everton could get something from this match.
As they showed at Leicester, if they can stay compact at the back, not engage too high a line, and be combative in midfield, they can keep opposition chances to a minimum and then let Richarlison, the emerging Talisman in attack, and those around him try and grab goals at the other end.
A victory would take a massive load off collective Blue shoulders and bash a hole through the wall of worry that has surrounded this run of fixtures before Christmas. Get a point or three against Chelsea, take some confidence to Old Trafford to maybe force a draw there and heap more misery on Arsenal with a victory back at Goodison and things really would be looking up. Who knows — maybe Dunc can buy Messers Moshiri and Brands the time they need to find the next long-term manager without an air of panic suffocating the club's decision-making?
Kick-off: 12:30pm, Saturday 7 December, 2019
Referee: Craig Pawson
Last Time: Everton 2 - 0 Chelsea
Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Sidibé, Holgate, Mina, Digne, Schneiderlin, Davies, Iwobi, Bernard, Richarlison, Calvert-Lewin
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1 Posted 06/12/2019 at 06:26:49
2 Posted 06/12/2019 at 06:39:55
3 Posted 06/12/2019 at 06:43:09
Will never forget the words of Joe Royale. ”Duncan was a hero when we needed one”.
And once again we need one.
Heres to hoping! COYB
4 Posted 06/12/2019 at 06:48:28
Sid mins Keane bainsey
Bernard siggy Tom Digne
Really have no idea how we will line up but please no 4231. Last 4 managers have tried it and it didn't work
5 Posted 06/12/2019 at 06:59:43
6 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:07:12
“Duncan was a legend before he was a Manager”.
Cup win (or two) & mid table safety as Caretaker.
Or am I still dreaming?
7 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:09:43
8 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:10:31
I'm sure Goodison will be rocking tomorrow. I like the look of Andys team with Digne further forward. I'd maybe have Holgate in for Keane, but other than that it's a good team for me.
If Duncan starts his presser with the words 'thank fuck he's gone' I would give him the job permanently! Legend.
9 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:25:32
10 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:27:00
11 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:47:37
We cannot go back to the disastrous line ups we had at Leicester and our cousins.
Iwobi is far better centrally than wide. Hate to say it but I'd play Schneiderlin
Sidibe. Holgate, Mina, Digne
Kean, DCL, Richie
12 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:48:39
Whats the point in Lossl if hes never going to play a minute?
Id also tell any of the players that unless they run around for 90 plus minutes and bust a guy then they get a damning report before the new man takes over, and are out the door under the new manager!
13 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:53:11
14 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:00:29
Pickford has been horrendous all season.
I could go through a long list of stupid gaffes hes made, but the biggest thing thats pisses me off with him is his Big Time Charlie attitude, he knows hes undroppable and thats exactly why I would drop him, even for one match, just to show him this is the start of a new regime of hard men making decisions.
15 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:04:57
It would be a huge boost for Dunc the fans and much needed points if we can fashion a win. Somehow I feel fairly good about this game, and Chelsea have proved they can be beaten.
16 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:18:29
Or quote Joe, Dogs of war, inelligant but it will do for now.
What are the odds of a red card for snotting Lampard in the technical area ?
You've got to laugh otherwise you'll have to cry.
17 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:21:05
18 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:25:40
Big Dunc 4-4-2!
19 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:28:41
i would also drop Pickford. He is a source of defensive anxiety and needs to refocus.
20 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:30:41
Duncan, Duncan Ferguson. Duncan, Duncan Ferguson. Here we go!
21 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:40:05
Sidibe Mina Gibson Digne
Davies Iwobi Bernard
Gordon Kean Richarlison
22 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:59:32
Chelsea haven't been afraid to include their young guns, although it has to be said Tammy Abrahams and Mason Mount, have had loan experience before being thrust into battle, and it has worked for both. Add Reece James to those names too.
Come on Dunc, be bold and make 'em tick!
23 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:10:18
Brands has something of the night about him. Hes not to be trusted. Despite spending a fortune, the squad is at its weakest for years.
All of Silvas back room staff have reportedly gone. Yet Duncan Disorderly is still around.
Make no mistake, Kenwright is still calling the shots.
24 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:16:20
If you go round dropping people willy nilly for not very much, then you create disharmony very quickly these days. Remember, you're not dealing with players who are glad to be there anymore, you're dealing with young men who are millionaires by the time they're 20 and will simply get in a huff and leave if they don't get what they want.
This is the delicate reality of modern football, and modern management I'm afraid.
We as supporters see managers appearing weak, but the above stands up in the modern game, and they have little choice. When managers do drop players (managers such as Mourinho) have you not noticed the outcry? People think it's a huge deal these days dropping someone, and a large part of that is the millionaire prima donna that lives inside every one of them.
It's an incredibly delicate balancing act for managers nowadays.
25 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:17:35
I think it would be a mistake if Dunc just tried to “carry on silvering” with the 4-2-3-1 and the usual failures of Schneiderlin, Walcott, Siggy etc getting straight in when its clear they havent earned it. Without Gomes, Delph and Gbamin we are also too lightweight in the middle for a 2, so back it with a 3 and ask Gordon and Richie to drop back in to make a 5 when defending.
All conjecture at this stage, so Ill finish the same as you: come on the big man, be bold!
26 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:20:11
27 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:25:07
But there are players in the squad (mostly senior pros), who have failed in every team and under every manager. Standards will never improve until they are gone. We already have so much disharmony at the club that I think have to take advantage of this crisis to make significant change.
28 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:25:21
“dont drop the players who have been performing shite for months (whilst being cuddled and cajoled), cos we dont want to chance upsetting prima donna rich boys who dont have the backbone and desire to fight for their place back if they get upset”.
Thats insane no-one should be too big for the club. No-one should be guaranteed a spot. Everyone should know that if they dont perform then someone else gets a shot.
Anyway, Im off to tell my ‘boss I dont fancy doing a shift today. hopefully hes a ‘modern manager and decides to give me a cuddle instead of being pissed we dont get the proposal out on time.
29 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:32:28
30 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:33:36
Nothing but shite to gossip and boring old snipes about boring old men.
Some of the quotes are like Bingo talk for supposed grown men with lovely grammar.
People already whining about team selection to pop at Ferguson. Absolute stinks this. With the options we have, the performances yiu have witnessed. Just fuck off to the Mecca for a few pages of bingo.
31 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:35:22
Example: Shneiderlin, clearly stealing a healthy living off Everton, could be sold on to say, Southampton, his old club, where he'll be paid millions to play at another mid table side. Where's his motivation to put in any effort?
See what I mean? This is the point I'm trying to make. You drop a player like that he just goes, so fucking what? I don't care about Everton anyway.
32 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:37:03
In addition they said that he would receive £12M in Compensation, in regards to his Contract being terminated, so summing up, all in all it has cost the Club £16M to get rid of that clown.
I do hope someone who knows better can come on here and either refute those BBC claims, or qualify them. I was under the impression that Silva was on something like £3-4M per annum (still far too much imho) and the Watford issue had been well and truly put to bed.
They also said that Moyes is still favourite to take over in the future, not only do I hope there is no truth in that whatsoever, but also throws the Compensation and Watford claims as being erroneous too.
If Moyes is to be considered, why is Dunc in charge temporarily? I do hope Dunc does well but can't see him doing that well that he would be given the job permanently.
I still feel the Board have bought time, and in putting Dunc in temporary charge are thinking long and hard, and desperate to ensure that the next appointment, is totally correct. As another 'mistake' could be so costly, not only financially but in terms of our status in the Premiership and our credibility as a Club in general.
33 Posted 06/12/2019 at 10:00:30
34 Posted 06/12/2019 at 10:16:14
Just seen that Perriera famous press conference, nobody would mess with him and Dunc as a duo.
35 Posted 06/12/2019 at 10:43:35
36 Posted 06/12/2019 at 10:44:32
I get the impression that Dunc has never considered the step up to 1st team coach and is a kind of reluctant appointment, then again off the pitch he was a reluctant Star.
If memory serves, I believe in his heyday, when approached by Journo's asking "having you anything to say Dunc" he would retort "yea F*ck off" after a while they gave up and left him alone
I do hope he at least tries to put his own stamp on selections and would love to see some blood and thunder in a 4-4-2 with Kean and DCL upfront, Defo Bernard in there for me I think although a frustrating figure at times,he can unlock defenses and go around players to create space and wouldnt be adverse to some game time for the promising youth we here so much about ,
Anyway once again when the club is on its arse we turn to Dunc,
Cometh the hour cometh the man !!
37 Posted 06/12/2019 at 10:47:58
38 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:00:06
The spine of the squad is absolutely terrible, with close to zero options to replace them.
Pickford, Keane, Holgate, Sidibe, Davies, Sigurdsson, DCL, Tosun all poor.
Genuinely don't envy him having to pick at least two midfielders.
I hope he goes 442 or 4411.
Personally Id go:
39 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:03:20
Does that take us to £50M compensation paid to our last few failed managers? Unbelievable.
Im wondering what happens to Duncan Ferguson after the game. How long will he be in temporary charge for? Once we do get a new guy in will he remain as forward coach, or will he move on?
40 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:08:37
Tomorrow is a massive game in so many ways and we all have to play a part, get right behind the team and the big man and remember he has blue blood running through his veins.
41 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:12:36
Anyone watch Arsenal last night? The worst premier league Arsenal ever? Well Brands the loved up genius signed a fringe player from that shit Arsenal side.
What a guy this Marcel Cowell character is.
42 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:32:55
While that ridiculous amount could reluctantly, be excused and put down to a mistake not to be repeated, it would accountable if we were sitting 3rd or 4th in the Table, but in reality we currently occupy the relegation trio.
There's no fool like a rich fool eh! Or something to that effect.
Are you back in Toronto David, hope your health issues are well taken care of, and hope to see you again soon, there should be another TW get Together in the New Year now that the gloom has been lifted, but definitely around March/April when Mike Gaynes is coming over again.
43 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:37:39
Sidibe Holgate Mina Digne
Coleman Davies Sigurdsson Richarlison
Worth a go!!?
44 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:45:05
45 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:47:13
Sounds great. Im actually going away Sunday down to lsrael to do some volunteer work. Im back beginning of March. Ive been told that l want a phone signal its good in one spot of a certain field... so l might miss the all the goings on. Take care of yourself Derek... we shall hit the links in Spring. Or miss them badly. Be good to catch up with you and to meet Mike and the other.
Are you ready for the bagpipes tomorrow?
46 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:52:58
It was reported a couple of years ago that Chelsea had paid more out in compensation to sacked managers than Everton had spent on players.
And yes, well have to get a golf meeting organised in the Spring.
47 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:02:20
48 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:04:53
I don't expect much change but a 4-4-2 would be nice, and I fancy Kean with Richarlison up top.
Chelsea have Abraham and he, along with Mount will be hard to contain. Both have quick feet and good movement. Our static centre-halves will need lots of trackers from midfield if they are going to keep them out.
49 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:11:24
50 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:13:05
It will be interesting to see the team and formation Duncan picks, what has he picked up from the managers hes been with. I want to see 3 midfielders and try to control the game for a change. Up front l also want 3. Walcott, Kean and Richarlison.
51 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:14:43
52 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:16:50
Or Richarlison on the left and Theo on the right?
53 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:17:49
54 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:21:11
55 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:21:54
56 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:24:09
57 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:28:59
You will have all of the fans behind you.
Hope the players do their best and get the result.
58 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:32:52
Coleman, Holgate, Mina, Baines
Richarlison, Davies, Beni, Bernard
Digne, Sigurdsson, Keane, Adenerin, Gordon, Iwobi, Pickford.
59 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:27:09
Imagine if Duncan Ferguson is a very clever guy, which he hopefully is. Imagine if he's like a sponge soaking up all that coaching knowledge. Imagine taking the best of Martinez, the best of Koeman, the best of Allardyce and the best of Silva. Being able to play great possession football, being tactically astute, being defensively sold, and being a great hands-on coach. Knowing our luck he'll have picked up all of their worst habits!
60 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:29:14
61 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:31:43
I saw a thing in the BBC gossip saying Alan Pardew would be interested in the Everton job. My 81-year old mum would be interested in the Everton job, Alan, and she'd do a decent job.
Duncan divides opinion but he's a legend in my eyes. On his day, he put the wind up the RS - he never lost against them in his first spell. We've had more talented players since but nobody who put the fear into that lot like he did. Hope the Big Man gets a good result tomorrow and lifts the place. God knows we need it!
62 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:32:42
What team Ferguson will pick tomorrow different from Silva's is hard to predict, he's not that many options for his debut as a manager. Maybe he will think attack is the best form of defence, I think that's the way I would look at it. Muck or nettles.
I see our relegation odds have come down again unsurprisingly, I can't have us going down though I think we'll stay in the Premier League with a bit to spare. We got beat in the last two games by passes that were of pinpoint accuracy and would have beaten any defence, never mind ours.
Let's hope Chelsea have an off day and we get something out of the game, 2-1 to us more in hope than expectancy.
63 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:33:00
64 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:37:40
Problem is we're all speculating wildly, of course.
65 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:41:29
It'll be like when Unsworth beat Silva's Watford. The players, our players, are going to hear the "Duncan, Duncan Ferguson" chant ring out from all four corners like they have never heard before. Richarlison might think he's the darling of the Gwladys Street but he's going to think again when he hears how much louder Duncan's name is sung.
Our players should wake up and realise that when we love a player, we really love a player. Give us your best and turn up and put a shift in and we won't forget you.
When's the last time, other than Unsworth, we heard the crowd sing our manager's name? I think we have to go back to Martinez and the cup runs. We never sang for Koeman, Allardyce and certainly not for Silva.
66 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:44:24
For me, I would love to see Bernard play the Number 10, his quick feet and eye for a pass could be very interesting. Also, with him weighing the same as a 2 lb bag of sugar, he is likely to get us a few free kicks.
Good luck to the team and Big Dunc.
67 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:56:26
Be interesting to see if his tactics match.
68 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:05:39
He'll almost certainly bring in at least 1 player from the reserves to let everyone know it's a new slate. If not, he'd be a fool.
69 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:06:09
70 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:07:53
71 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:12:05
I expect two up top and 4-4-2. We've got no fit midfielders and so 4-4-2 is the only formation that makes sense, especially if it keeps Schneiderlin and Sigurdsson out of the side.
72 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:17:59
He often gets accused of looking a right sour puss on the pitch. That's his game face. He takes his profession very seriously. Even after he scored our 2nd on Wednesday, he didn't celebrate his goal. It was more 'Cummon! We've got more to do yet.'
Again, throughout the intererview he wears a permanent frown. Now I have the advantage of being able to understand the tone and content of his spoken Portuguese (the English translation is not always literal), but it is self-evident he is hurting. BAD!
I found it the most frank and honest player interview I've seen in months, possibly years, from an Everton player.
He immediately swats away the praise the interviewer gives him on his goal. He replies 'it's meaningless if we lose. It's no good scoring goals if concede them too easily. We need to be more responsible, we need to mature quickly.'
There's lots of good stuff in the interview. He closes by saying again 'we need to beat our chests, to play for the shirt, to be more responsible. We need to win. A 1-0 win would be a great result for us.'
(In Portuguese, he actually describes a 1-0 win as 'goleado', which is the phrase used when a team wins by a lot of goals).
The team needs more like him with this attitude, not less.
73 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:19:03
74 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:19:12
Will Siggy and Morgan (if picked) stand like statues?
Duncan might not be ready to take the reigns but I cant see him putting up with anything less than 100%
75 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:19:53
Q. How did the squad react to the news?
I gather from that, some were sad to see him go and others pleased. That for me points to us needing a manager with a good grasp of English (yeah yeah okay that might rule out Moyes). The players need to learn English, we shouldnt be getting a Portuguese to make certain players happy. Team bonding is needed. Maybe a reason for Moshiri and his team talk yesterday.
76 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:24:32
77 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:24:42
“No place in the modern game”
“Times have changed”
Now every man and their dog are wanting it !!
I think Dunc may just lift the place and surprise a few people. He seems steely and determined and I wish him the very best. Crowd needs to be ferocious
78 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:25:07
79 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:33:47
80 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:36:28
81 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:41:21
No idea what formation or who DF will play but one things for sure, please don't make it the same as the last few games. We need something different and need to be more direct.
I'd like to have Coleman in the side if fit and see us either play 433, 442 or 4411. Keep it tight and play to our strengths. The likes of Richarlison, Iwobi and Kean all have pace - lets use this. Drop Sigurdsson from the start as we need some more steel in the midfield.
DF isn't the answer but what a lift it would give to get 3 points tomorrow and move us out of the drop zone. Chelsea are not the team they used to be and are nothing to be feared.
82 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:44:59
83 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:45:21
Maybe some want 442 because they think thats all Duncan is capable of training them to do.
I want 3 in midfield so we dont get overrun in there.
84 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:47:06
85 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:47:17
86 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:47:55
At least I hope we are.
One love. One team. One Everton.
Tell your children.
87 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:49:53
88 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:53:31
He has a tough job and I am sure all true blue supporters will be 100% behind him. I cant see him taking any risks and I think the team may be.
Pickford Holgate Mina Digne
Davies Schneiderlin Iwobi
Richarlison Kean Bernard
89 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:53:36
I am also intrigued by who Ferguson will have on the bench alongside him tomorrow - Jeffers, Ebrell and Kelly. Unsworth nowhere.
Now I understand all Silva's auxilliary staff have been binned with him and there were little or no alternatives left for Ferguson to choose from, but it does highlight again the 'Everton old boy' infrastructure that continues to permeate on all levels at the club.
I'm probably not alone in wondering how Unsworth featured in things in the last 24 hours. Barely two years ago, on stepping in as caretaker boss for Koeman, he declared on day one that he was 'ready for this', to be a PL manager.
No need to rake over cold coals on the different perceptions of how that went, but it has been curious - at least to me - just how passive David has been since returning to his U-23 duties.
That he coaches well at that level is no question. He has the trophies to show for it. Many players schooled under him have progressed to first team football, although not enough IMO to first team football at Everton.
If, as he stated, he was ready to be a first team boss, then why hasn't he applied for any number of positions for which he would have been a serious candidate?
Did the short, sharp experience of being Everton's manager damage his confidence in some way? Has he acknowledged he isn't cut out for the job at the highest level? That doing what he does with academy players is his comfort zone and what he derives the greatest satisfaction from?
I write the above not to deride Unsworth. I like him as a man and a junior coach. If he has found contentment and satisfaction in his current role, I don't begrudge him that at all.
But I do wonder if he was offered the caretaker role yesterday, but refused it. Or whether he was entirely overlooked.
Whatever it was, it signals loud and clear to me that as long as Moshiri is at Everton, Unsworth will never again get a shot at being first team manager as some have lobbied for.
90 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:56:37
Personally I think, and hope that we will see a different Everton tomorrow, I also believe the groundswell of support and relief, that Silva has gone, coupled with a decent team selection, we may just get a result.
Which brings me to my next point, which admittedly is based on a hypothesis, what happens if Dunc really pulls the stops out, with his novice management and team selection?
Do they extend his tenure?
If so, by how long, and do you think they really have a Candidate in mind, or are they just back-pedalling/buying time?
91 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:57:10
92 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:02:31
If anyone watched Dunc's presser, Delph is still out (shocking), and now Mina is doubtful, so more good news. Abraham is confirmed healthy and back for Chelsea as well. So prepare for Abraham & Pulisic vs Keane & Holgate. At least we'll get to see Zouma at Goodison again, so that's something. On the plus side, FIFA reduced Chelsea's transfer ban to just the 1 window they've already endured, so maybe they'll go buy some expensive CB and free up ones of theirs for us again.
My preferred lineup:
Sidibe Holgate Keane Digne
Iwobi Davies Schneiderlin Bernard
Jeez even writing that out we're not starting out with many good options here.
What we'll probably see:
Sidibe Holgate Keane Digne
Richarlison Iwobi Bernard
Best we can hope for prediction: 1-1 draw
93 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:02:43
That reminds me of the old chestnut about Ferguson taking on the entire Liverpool team by himself in some bizarre scenario.
After the game, meeting up with his team mates, they asked him how the game went.
"We lost, 1-0."
"But that's an amazing result, you keeping all 11 RS players at bay and losing just 1-0."
"Aye, but it's ma fault that we lost. I got meself sent off with 10 minutes to go!"
94 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:02:48
But Unsworth now has to ask himself where hes at and where hes going. If this is it, then great. Hes paid very well and does very well. Most of us would dream of doing his job at that level.
If he wants more, then he needs to leave and take the risk on a league one club. What you might not realise is that the risk is a pay cut. Hes on very good money at a PL u23 side and more than your average League one manager. Is it worth giving that up for a league where the average manager lasts less than a season. And so he is likely to be sacked and then kiss good bye to that salary.
95 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:05:50
96 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:07:07
97 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:07:28
98 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:08:58
99 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:10:48
Also IMO going with a coaching staff caretaker is a very good indication that someone like Moyes is not under any sort of serious consideration.
Without any inside info, it simply appears to me that Ferguson is being asked to hold the line and pick up what points he can, while final shortlist consideration then negotiations take place for the new manager. I've been told by someone on the NSNO forums who works for the Club that they've narrowed the shortlist to 4 managers. He didn't know who they were.
100 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:12:51
And in the background, the adults narrowing their search for our fire-starter manager.
101 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:15:03
As for David Unsworth, he may really like living on Merseyside and not want to step out of his comfort zone. That is fine with me. Too many people are promoted to their level of incompetence and then find it hard to step back down.
102 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:17:00
103 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:24:04
The home loss to West Ham does look bad, but over the past few games they've been without Abraham, Barkley, Hudson-Odoi, and Rudiger for 1 or more of them. All but Rudiger have been declared fit for tomorrow.
104 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:25:21
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109 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:32:02
I agree on that Steve that Ferguson has been working close to the first team for 5 years now since Martinez promoted him.
You yourself in the past suggested that Ferguson is nothing more than the cone placer in training. Possibly he is a bit more than that, possibly he is simply the Last Man Standing!
As for David Unsworth, it is not unreasonable to assume that he has come to accept his lot as his roll is now defined at Everton, or he still has higher ambitions for himself which clearly cannot be fulfilled by staying at Everton and to achieve them he will need to move on.
It wasn't just the dynamic around the first team that Silva's dismissal yesterday will impact on IMO.
Depending on whether Brands genuinely has authority on all aspects of the football infrastructure at the club, there might be plenty of fallout and collateral damage to follow yet with the whole set up being completely revamped with New Blood.
110 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:32:28
I think we can only appoint one. 😂😋
111 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:35:22
Q. How did the squad react to the news?
I gather from that, some were sad to see him go and others pleased".
Or a mixture of pleased and ecstatic.
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115 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:38:33
" When I plunged in my knife (haven't cleaned it since we did Sam in) Marco said "Et tu Duncan?" I said "you daft twat, eto'o left years ago, my name is Ferguson."
116 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:39:57
Maybe Duncan will surprise most of us and turn out to be an inspirational manager, then again !!
117 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:42:19
Money matters: earned millions, goes bankrupt
Temperament: gets tackled, head butts opponent
So all in all it looks pretty encouraging.
118 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:43:56
As far as tomorrow goes, fully behind the big fella. I hope we win 10-0, he gets the job full time and wins every game for the next ten years and has a statue of him outside the Bramley Moore Dock stadium which is to be renamed in his honour!
119 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:43:58
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122 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:49:49
Beni - yes.
Kean playing off DCL - yes.
Adeniran and Gordon on the bench - yes.
Not sure about Baines for Digne but maybe.
I'll see you in the dug-out tomorrow.
123 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:49:57
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125 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:53:19
He's not one to be rendered silent by the goings on at Everton.
Seriously hope he is OK.
126 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:54:06
Holgate Kean Mina Baines
Walcott Davies Ebbrell Digne
127 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:55:06
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134 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:01:54
Mark, thought it was doubtful, but maybe Ferguson is playing the old Moyes mind games? We used to always have about 7 doubtful and they'd all play.
135 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:04:45
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138 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:08:32
I'll just set the cones up, you fellas can knock 'em down.
I thenk yew!
139 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:11:36
140 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:11:47
Good luck Duncan
141 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:12:04
142 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:18:18
I want to mail them my favourite vid and pic of Duncan sharing his opinions with his old mate Stefan Freund with Jimmy Bullard wetting himself in terror. Might concentrate their minds a bit.
143 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:20:15
Good for him and good luck to him should he leave at the end of the season.
He can leave by the front door and his head held a lot higher than many that slunk off through the back door down the years.
144 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:32:22
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152 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:49:33
Re team selection for this game, it is a tricky one. As is plainly clear to everyone, we have no decent central midfield or even central defensive options. I wouldn't let shirkers like Iwobi or Sigurdsson anywhere near the team. they are classic examples of players who have got us where we are with their half-hearted approach. I agree that a 4-4-2 is needed with a more direct style. Get Calvert-Lewin in to win headers and Keane to worry them in behind with his pace. They won't know whether to drop off or push up.
For the two in the middle of the park, I am a bit stuck at the minute. Davies would have to be one although I am not overly convinced by him but not sure who would partner him. I can't see it being Schneiderlin after Big Dunc falling out with him in training one time a while back. I would be tempted to get one of the young lads in with plenty of energy, a good engine and who likes a tackle. Just tell him to get stuck in and put himself about.
To stop us getting outnumbered in the middle, I would tell Keane to drop off into midfield when we haven't got the ball, like Cahill used to do.
Central defence is tough too. I'm not convinced by Mina or Keane who look slow and full of errors. I would probably go with Holgate and Keane unless one of the young lads is ready to step up in place of Keane. The only worry there is lack of experience but then experience hasn't done a lot for us so far this season!
153 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:54:58
451 for me when off the ball and 433 when on it.
We had some joy with man marking jorghino last year.
Iwobi and Sigurdsson need to be dropped.
154 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:54:59
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157 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:59:14
7 May 2015 Liverpool Echo 1. “The fans here have always been great towards me. They are unbelievable. They took me in and they are the best fans in the country, if not the world.” Ferguson 2. “Duncan had immense ability. And here he was, at a club where the striker has been revered since Dixie Dean, and before. They love their No9s. Alternatively, they can be incredibly hard if you dont fit the bill. Unlike a lot of gangly boys, Duncan could jump. He could jump, all right.” Joe Royle on Ferguson 3. “It was the best 10 years of my career, in fact they are the only team I ever actually played for. Thats what happens when you play for Everton, you forget the rest, the rest means nothing.” – Ferguson 4. “I began to appreciate how he earned his reputation as a hard man. It was a nice punch, I have to say.” – Paul Scharner after being punched by Ferguson. 5. "This club has been a big part of my life and this city has been a big part of my life. I met my wife here and my three kids were born here." Ferguson 6. On retirement: "I miss the place, I miss the football and I miss the derbies. You are a long time retired, I have been retired for five years and it feels like 25. So to the players that are here now, stay in football as long as you can and stay at this club as long as you can because there is only one way after leaving this club, and that is down." Ferguson 7. On Blues legend Dave Hickson: “Dave was a lovely man and its very, very sad that hes no longer with us. I used to see him all the time at Goodison and he was one of those people who always had a smile on his face. He just loved Everton and he loved coming to the game.” Ferguson 8. On his infamous scrapes: "Hand on heart, I never started anything, never once. Thats the truth. I finished a few.” Ferguson 9. On one day managing his beloved Everton: "I think everyone dreams of being Everton manager, dont they. Dont you? Everyone has dreams, but its not something Im anywhere near. "Weve got a top-drawer manager[Roberto], outstanding, and Im learning from him every day. I just want to be the best coach I can be. Im working hard at it.” Ferguson
By Greg OKeeffe
Everton coach Duncan Ferguson's nine best quotes
1. “The fans here have always been great towards me. They are unbelievable. They took me in and they are the best fans in the country, if not the world.” Ferguson
2. “Duncan had immense ability. And here he was, at a club where the striker has been revered since Dixie Dean, and before. They love their No9s. Alternatively, they can be incredibly hard if you dont fit the bill. Unlike a lot of gangly boys, Duncan could jump. He could jump, all right.” Joe Royle on Ferguson
3. “It was the best 10 years of my career, in fact they are the only team I ever actually played for. Thats what happens when you play for Everton, you forget the rest, the rest means nothing.” – Ferguson
4. “I began to appreciate how he earned his reputation as a hard man. It was a nice punch, I have to say.” – Paul Scharner after being punched by Ferguson.
5. "This club has been a big part of my life and this city has been a big part of my life. I met my wife here and my three kids were born here." Ferguson
6. On retirement: "I miss the place, I miss the football and I miss the derbies. You are a long time retired, I have been retired for five years and it feels like 25. So to the players that are here now, stay in football as long as you can and stay at this club as long as you can because there is only one way after leaving this club, and that is down." Ferguson
7. On Blues legend Dave Hickson: “Dave was a lovely man and its very, very sad that hes no longer with us. I used to see him all the time at Goodison and he was one of those people who always had a smile on his face. He just loved Everton and he loved coming to the game.” Ferguson
8. On his infamous scrapes: "Hand on heart, I never started anything, never once. Thats the truth. I finished a few.” Ferguson
9. On one day managing his beloved Everton: "I think everyone dreams of being Everton manager, dont they. Dont you? Everyone has dreams, but its not something Im anywhere near.
"Weve got a top-drawer manager[Roberto], outstanding, and Im learning from him every day. I just want to be the best coach I can be. Im working hard at it.” Ferguson
158 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:59:33
159 Posted 06/12/2019 at 17:11:15
I have no doubt, regardless of the result, as long as the team give 100% and fight for the shirt - for a change - they will get a great reception and support.
In a way it's a great pity Ferguson has such a short time with them before the match. Still if they can't get up for this after such a shite week, they never will.
160 Posted 06/12/2019 at 17:15:32
He has said he expects a top manager to come in, lets hope so.
Total guess but I see him going for a 4-5-1 or 4-4-1-1.
Also a nice parting statement from Silva. Shame it didnt work out for him and us!
161 Posted 06/12/2019 at 17:31:25
I know he's proven to be very polarizing, but why drop Iwobi? Is it because he makes the errant pass on occasion, or fails to dribble past a defender? Just guessing on those 2 because they seem to be the oft-repeated complaints on his play. If so, well, that's going to happen when you're moving around a lot and trying to make things happen. It's very easy to have "safe" error-free looking play when you play safe, doing nothing.
It's become fairly apparent that advanced metrics & statistics around what actually happens during matches either aren't trusted or simply not cared about, but in the event that you do, Iwobi's are strong comparatively to the rest of the team.
Areas where he's very good:
* He's 3rd in key passes (ones that create what are known as big chances, i.e. should be scored by the recipient)
* 1st in through balls
* 6th in pass completion % (82), but 1st overall for attacking midfielders/forwards, BUT only 13th in passes per game, so really, he should be passing MORE
* 4th in passes that led to shots on goal
Areas where he's ok/can improve:
* 3rd in dribbles / 7th in being dispossessed (at about a 2:1 ratio)
* 7th in bad touches per game (1-6 are all forwards or Coleman)
* 5th in shots per game (which IMO only illustrates how poor the entire team is playing)
Areas where he isn't very good:
- pass interceptions
- putting shots on target
- converting quality chances (he's 3rd worst on the team)
If you put everything together, he's the 8th-best overall rated player on the team, so regardless of how you personally feel about him, he should be starting IMO. His ability to create outweighs the negatives, again IMO.
I probably just wasted my time compiling that lol
162 Posted 06/12/2019 at 17:44:58
I also believe he gets on well with DCL so expect him to lead the line.Its a worry that Mina is doubtful because Michael Kan has lost all confidence and has been marking shadows since he got battered for his last England performance.
I just hope that the team picked is up for it and the crowd get right behind them.
163 Posted 06/12/2019 at 17:47:37
I'm actually hopeful of a result tomorrow and can see us at least getting a draw and even a win. If GP is a bear pit the Chelsea side won't fancy it.
One game at a time - lets put the sorry Silva ear behind us and get a win. Not bothered about the new manager yet. Lets just get a result tomorrow and move on from there. Hopefully DF can put the fear into a few of them to pull their thumbs out.
164 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:07:43
I remember posting at the time that both of them should have been booted out out of EFC immediately and put on the list, although Schneiderlin publicly denied doing anything wrong. He's hardly done anything right since either.
Bad apples and all that.
165 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:24:11
Lets face it they need a mole. That could be Ferguson Unsworth or anyone they feel like reffering too.
Ferguson isn't an angry player anymore so lets get out of the past and back someone trying to improve.
He worked with the forwards under Koeman and Lukaku had his best season over here. I remember he often pointed at Dunc when celebrating his goals and praising his training drills.
I couldn't care who kept him at the club but i'm glad he is here and the club isn't surrounded by coaches from overseas just doing a job.
166 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:24:24
Why do people pick Schneiderlin? He is a disgrace, a shirker, a liability and stealer of a wage.
I can count on the tip of one finger how many half-decent performances he has produced in almost 3 years.
If you were in the trenches he would be the last one you would want to rely on.
Right I've got my tin hat on (as we are hypothetically in trench warfare) awaiting all the mortar fire and rubber chickens that may come my way in his pathetic defence.
167 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:31:09
Should he start tomorrow?
NO! Not for me.
We must be the only team in the league that will stick with a player no matter how poor his form is.
How many goals does he have to let in before we drop him?
Before you all start. Lossl might be worse. I don't know. If he is god help us.
168 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:34:11
169 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:35:12
Richarlison is like a Tim Cahill for me..trying to improve all the time and winners mentality. His work rate is excellent and his passion is second to none.
I can't stand the rolling and yelling but I can see its a part of wanting to control the game as much as he can.
The Brazilians don't get enough praise for their work rate in my opinion and they all play positive. Even the holding midfielders and defenders in many cases.
Jason 167 someone above said Lossl is bang average. That makes him the same as Pickford but bigger.
170 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:39:58
These are just little boys in comparison, they would shit themselves!
Fear is a brilliant form of discipline, just enough to make you think twice is perfect.
Perhaps a bit of old school is overdue at Everton. Is the way Klopp behaves all modern and with it then? Is it fuck! Did you see him slaughtering his defender's after our 2nd goal the other night? Do it his way or you get it, he doesn't give a shit who you are.
I prefer plain speaking and discipline to this modern shit any day.
All the best managers turn into erupting volcanoes when player's fail to do it right. It's called having high standards and self respect, which they ingrain into their player's heads.
Modern player's can have all the money in the world, but a loser is stiil disregarded, and a winner praised and respected.
Anyways, its not like this group of players deserve any niceties is it?
For all his faults, Dunc still created some of the most uplifting, joyous, funny, crazy and brilliant moments for us Evertonians in times of adversity.
I wish him well for tomorrow, and a good bollucking from the sidelines to this lot would be great too!
171 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:43:48
Thanks mate, much appreciated.
Ed, agreed. Lets hope the passion comes from the manager and fans into those millionaire players of ours.
If you go and watch him live he does move, he does pass if its on, he does switch play, he does make blocks. However no confidence and no movement leads to simple sideways and backwards passing. He is more than capable.
Anyway I dont think anyone has to worry. Id be surprised if he plays. However... how many fit midfielders do we have again? If he plays its normally behind his midfield partner which creates a massive gap in midfield because Siggy is trying to stay close to the striker. If he plays it should be in a diamond formation. For we should build our team around him
I did my bit... (mwuhahahahah).
172 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:48:02
Its a load of shite. He produced his examples on paper during a presentation and was quicker an more clear than the champ manager generation.
He obviously felt proud about that but told me these modern day guru type are over complicating and trending.
I remember Martinez assistant time and time again taking ages to go through his ipad while a sub was coming on.
Man management is the key. Klopp has it to a tee. Listen to ex players and even some today will tell you its the man management that counts most.
Souness said no manager ever made him a better player.. something I agree with and think its fantasy stuff.
173 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:48:50
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176 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:53:09
Good point, maybe Richarlison is our new Cahill. Hes getting better, l like his attitude (without the rolling). He needs a few more around him. Cant wait for Kean to find his feet. Theres one... we will see him better next season. Maybe it will take another midfield signing and the likes of Gordon to join them. We also need a leader at the back l think.
177 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:57:03
We could do with a ruthless player in each position through the middle right now to be honest. And get the clown out of the goal next season.
I do agree Neil 175, he is a liabilty mate.
178 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:07:07
Okay they may be a bit 'Rabbit in the Headlights' at first, and possibly make a mistake or two, which they will learn from, but they will try and give a lot more than Crabman.
179 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:09:31
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182 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:23:11
In his shoes I would be looking for a team which will play with pride and passion and not hold back. This would rule out the slow S men in midfield and as you suggest open the door for either Beni ( if fit) or Adeniran to play alongside Tom ( who would be my skipper) with Iwobi at number ten.
Front three would all be real triers - Kean, DCL and Bernard and my defence Sidibe( not his fault he was so exposed against RS) Mina, Gibson and Baines. Digne has not been the same player this season and if we play a couple of young lads Baines experience could be crucial.
The atmosphere will be electric and the crowd has a crucial role to play. Professionals or not a noisy and hostile crowd against you can intimidate, and for you will encourage not to mention affecting the referee.
It will be interesting to witness an unrestrained Duncan on the touchline and to see how he approaches anyone who is not giving maximum effort.
It is a very difficult game but if he can motivate and galvanise our players then we are in with a shout.
183 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:27:54
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187 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:39:27
Mirallas has been shipped but Crabturd is still there!
188 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:42:34
I think you're mixing up Rhino with Big Dunc.
Unsworth was well established as a coach before being recruited as Alan Stubbs assistant with Everton's U-21s. He even had a couple of spells as caretaker manager at one of them, PNE. He was also at Sheffield United and a course tutor at Scotland's highly regarded coaching centre.
When Stubbs took on the manager's job with Hibernian, Rhino stepped up to Alan's vacated position he has since held for 5 years.
Ferguson's coaching time at Everton predates Unsworth by a few years.
First as an unpaid volunteer working with youth players, including alongside Sheedy, before Martinez surprisingly invited him to coach with the first team.
Astonishingly, that was almost 6 years ago already.
Tomorrow it will be interesting to see literally Duncan Ferguson 2019 can bring to the game.
189 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:53:24
190 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:02:51
I'll have a bit of that, and oh almost forgot we win the 3-2!
Nurse, "do I have to go back to the Centre? I was enjoying my time on TW". "Your medication is well overdue" she replies, "and you know how delirious it makes you, being off it". 🥼💙😋
191 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:08:37
Steve, great shout. He might even been able to swap blue kits at half and no one will be any the wiser.
192 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:22:50
Sidibe, Holgate, Keane, Digne.
Shneiderlin* or Gylfi*, Iwobi, Davies,
Richarlison, Kean, Bernard.
* No choice. Nobody else is fit.
193 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:26:41
194 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:45:15
I can't believe someone actually had the balls to look into Brands role.
195 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:46:07
(He really did do light training.)
196 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:47:39
197 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:48:48
It's 75 degrees here. I'm going to snow and 27 to 35 degrees.
Everton had best win tomorrow a.m. while I freeze my balls off in New England! Or my mood will be foul. And my wife is a gem, she doesn't deserve that. So c'mon Duncan, motivate and win.
198 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:51:55
I see Dunc making some changes. Coleman bleeds Blue, Dunc will want that. I also could see him playing Calvert-Lewin and Kean up top together in a 4-4-2.
Whatever the case, I think we're going to see a different look tomorrow.
199 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:56:14
So here's who I think we'll see tomorrow.
Coleman Mina Zouma Digne
Gbamin Delph Gomes
Walcott Tosun Richarlison
200 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:56:45
201 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:57:12
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204 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:01:03
Sidibe, Holgate, Mina, Digne,
Gordon, Davies, Iwobi, Bernard,
It is tough with all the injuries but we need to have speed in attack and I am sure Chelsea's defenders would rather face one forward than two.
205 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:02:41
The fact people have suggested Baines, Adeniran, Baningime and Holgate shows how short we are. And Sigurdsson isn't the answer either.
206 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:03:08
Didn't even know they were having it! Good place to have that in December, God knows.
I'm going to Boston this weekend, so the likelihood I jump in a car and do the 5 hour drive down I-95 in a week is slim-to-none friend. I think a couple of my boys are getting home from U of Alabama and Florida State as well next weekend.
You and I should defo meet up some time for a game in Orlando or some such thing, if you're game for it.
207 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:05:02
208 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:05:15
GP at its finest atmosphere is as good as a goal, tomorrow the slide must be halted.
I'm hoping Lössl starts, as for me, Jordon is no longer consistent and there's been far more mistakes this season.
Also I hope Moise starts, keeps his cool and scores. The back four will hopefully play as a unit, and has learned from the RS game, the midfield is where the game will be won and the players selected will need to put a shift in.
Hopefully Dunc can inspire these players victory!
209 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:06:40
Midfield options are very limited. Have they ever considered, I wonder, putting Baines in front of the back 4? I've seen a few folks throw that out there?
210 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:07:43
It has been obvious that Silva was in his last days. He was left in post to take the team to Anfield, those in charge decided that was fair enough as they were paying him plenty of money. But the rest of us, those who dont really matter, have had to endure the shameful embarrassment of that display and all the cretinous stick that has been floating around the city since.
But this afternoon I had a very pleasant surprise, a ‘phone call from across the pond from Mike Gaynes. Those who know Mike understand he has had to face a life-threatening illness, so he is very much aware that there are more important things than footy. At the same time, however, he knows that our team has a very important place in our lives, and he managed to stoke the embers and Im now looking forward to the match.
It wont be easy, the Lampard family has never done us any favours. But it will be an interesting watch, and I think Goodison will have a spark.
211 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:08:11
If Moyes comes in, then I'll have nothing to do with the club until he, and whoever employs him, gets the fuck out of Dodge.
212 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:10:50
Sorry, just taking the piss a bit.
213 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:14:02
214 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:25:14
215 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:31:10
I was under the impression that after undergoing treatment, Mike had been given the 'all clear' and was again not only participating in Sports but also doing some refereeing too.
I know we shouldn't be talking about the reasons for Mike's noticed absence on TW, but I for one am genuinely concerned as he is a great guy. If you ever want to give me a ring or a text even, my number is 07565140075.
Mike is one of the TW Family, well we all are, but has been a part of it for so long, and is respected both for his humour, his detailed knowledge and impeccable records on all things Blue.
Peter, please, please, send my regards to Mike and I genuinely wish him some good news, and hopefully a speedy return to TW. 😥💙
216 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:33:31
I didn't read in Pete's post that there's anything wrong with Mike?
In fact, Mike posted earlier today on another thread, saying he was out yesterday for a bit, fired up TW, and 6 hours after the fact learned Silva had been sacked.
217 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:37:57
218 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:42:22
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220 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:52:12
What a relief, I may even pour myself a libation, oh confounded again, I only have a few cans of lager, as I rarely drink in the house, not the same without company and a good chat!
Thanks again Peter!
221 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:52:22
As for my health, be of good cheer, I remain in this gloriously extended remission and all is well. What has delayed my next trip over to visit you British Blues is that I'm having Achilles surgery next month (foolish slide tackle in a match), and since I don't fancy stumping around the Winslow and Goodison on crutches, I'll hold off on the trip until spring. Hopefully we'll be playing better by then.
DK, thanks for your number, I'll definitely surprise you one of these days.
222 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:56:10
223 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:02:19
Thanks all for your concern.
224 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:14:42
225 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:16:58
226 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:18:53
227 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:25:43
TW and Everton Football Club has been such a Helter Skelter recently and I think most of us, are so dejected as the catastrophic series of (dis) appointments, ill advised and overly inflated purchases, of players who are (clearly to us anyway) not a good fit. Not all but a considerable number are.
Oddly enough I am sitting listening to one of my Favourite groups the Moody Blues, ( I am confessedly an old romantic) but the Album in question which I just put on in random fashion has such pertinent Tracks, which pertain to Everton and our current situation.
I won't list them all but here are a few:
Voices in the Sky. (Woo spooky)
Never Comes the Day (We get a fair result, Ref/VAR
Watching and Waiting ( managerial Appointment)
Dawning is the Day (Dunc's First match)
New Horizons (Self Explanatory hopefully)
Isn't Life Strange ( Tell Me About It!)
Blue Guitar (No Strings Attached ?)
Driftwood ( Most have been moved on)
Forever Autumn (When new Season starts and we're level with all the others)
Your Wildest Dreams (Europe/Top 4/6)
I know you're out There Somewhere (New Manager)
Nervous ( Nearly every game of late!)
Obviously I have added the bracketed words, The Moody Blues who were from Birmingham, may have supported their Blues, but not sure on that, but it just seemed so appropriate and as I said before it was a totally random selection.
228 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:29:56
Of course, at this point we're all Moody Blues, aren't we?
229 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:32:00
230 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:36:57
231 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:37:23
232 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:49:54
234 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:57:02
We are sleep walking towards relegation, dramatic much!? Well yes when you say it in a suspenseful kind of way.
However we are on the precipice of fighting for our lives, we have to repeat most of this current run of fixtures late in the season. Who ever we get, may well galvanize the club but can they get the squad to perform to more than the sum of its parts. So far a talented squad on paper has very little chemistry and very rarely has shown a propensity to give more than its individuals in moments of games.
Its gonna be very tight and Im genuinely concerned this year is might have put number on it.
235 Posted 06/12/2019 at 23:09:03
236 Posted 06/12/2019 at 00:02:52
I was born in Dundee Scotland, as you may be well aware, and grew up not really having a direct affiliation to any particular Club, although I did have an attraction to both Hearts (Edinburgh) and of course Dundee United.
It was through Hearts, ironically that I became hooked, on Everton. Let me explain, Hearts then, had a player called Alex Young who, I identified as being my hero even at that young age.
I was lucky enough although very young, about 6/7 that my Dad although a Dundee supporter himself, he was from Glasgow (Airdrie) but chose to support Dundee after settling in a place called Newport-on-Tay (on the Fife side of Dundee).
He did either occasionally take me, or made sure someone took me to watch Hearts which then was a train journey of some 60 miles!
I got a few glimpses of my hero Alex Young at such a tender age and was hooked, almost straight away, not so much with Hearts, who I loosely had an interest in because of Alex.
Of course Alex joined Everton, and although we were lucky enough to have a black and white television, which my Dad had built from scratch, I was lucky again in being allowed to watch Alex playing for Everton.
Very rarely was it on Match of The Day then, but when it was I made sure I could watch it, that was me, and has been ever since. Which is (frighteningly) sixty years next year!
Anyway, my elder brother and his son are avid Dundee United Supporters, and were regular attendees. Being my local side, I always retained an interest in looking for their result on a Saturday.
Living in England, in both Navies (not at the same time) and marrying a Scouser, when in my new home, I could actually start going to the Matches, to again see Alex. It was almost heaven to me then, as all of her family were Blues!
You have probably aged considerably reading this, which unintentionally has turned in to a Saga, but I had to explain, and I'm still not finished yet!
Duncan started his career as a young lad with Dundee United, and I regularly received reports from my nephew, and my brother how good this guy was.
Although he was good, and I did get the opportunity on a visit to Scotland to watch him for Dundee United he was a very different player in comparison with Alex Young, and of course he too came to Everton.
Talk about degrees of separation, but it is a bizarre World we live in at times which throws up these coincidences, which I believe in some way are meant to happen!
237 Posted 07/12/2019 at 00:30:06
I envy you having seen Alex Young play, and at the start of his career no less. Those are magic memories for ya I'm sure.
Regarding Duncan, I've made no secret that I'm not an admirer, but I understand why you have a soft spot for him, and if he can make my getting out of bed at 4am tomorrow worth the effort, I will cheer him for sure.
238 Posted 07/12/2019 at 00:35:20
239 Posted 07/12/2019 at 00:49:55
Delayed flight. At the bar (of course) getting prepared to fly out. De-icing and snow in Boston. Drinking heavily as I DETEST flying.
Youre spot on, friend. We are absolutely on the precipice of fighting for our lives. We are in a dire situation.
Im hoping we come through the other side stronger.
240 Posted 07/12/2019 at 00:52:42
Always liked you now it makes sense as my mum was born in Dundee too in your era. Cant beat a good old Tayside accent.
241 Posted 06/12/2019 at 01:01:45
I do not think Duncan Ferguson will make to many changes tomorrow but I am sure all true blues supporters will support him. The team I think he may pick barring injuries is:
Pickford, Sidibe, Holgate, Mina, Digne, Davies, Schneiderlin, Iwobi, Richarlison, Kean, Bernard.
Pickford, like him or not, he is the best keeper we have at the club at this time. Schniederlin, both Davies and Iwobi like to go forward and we need a defensive midfielder. Chelsea have 2 tall defensive centre-halves so we need quick strikers keeping the ball on the ground. And their backs like to move up-field in attack, so we need our quick wingers to help defend.
Subs: Lössl Keane, Sigurdsson, Baines, Walcott, Clavert-Lewin. Gibson, Tosun
242 Posted 07/12/2019 at 01:15:56
Pickford, Sidibe, Holgate, Gibson, Digne, Davies, Adeniran, Richarlison, Bernard, Kean, Calvert-Lewin.
Go for 4-4-2,
243 Posted 07/12/2019 at 02:37:35
There is an auld saying in Scotland "We're all Jock Thompson's Bairns" which roughly means, it doesn't matter what colour, what religion, whether you are rich or poor, we all have a right to exist on this planet, and treat others in a similar vein.
You've got me started, so I will finish, in true University Challenge fashion.
My National poet, Robert Burns, who I have loosely tried to live my own life by, said this in a much-ignored poem, well not so much a poem but a dirge: "Man's Inhumanity to Man made Countless Thousands Mourn".
Considering that was written nearly 250 years ago, how many wars and atrocities have there been in that time? Why does nobody, or very few learn from those, who have left messages, largely unheeded, in Poetry, Writing, Art and Music?
You know, Kieran, when I spent many hours at sea, I did not idle, or let them go to waste. I had quite a large Collection of Poetry, which I mostly learnt by heart, although my memory is not as collective as it was, I have still retained a good percentage.
One poem probably takes equal reverence next to Rabbies, and it was written over a thousand years ago by a Persian Astrologer whose name was Omar Khayyaam.
Depending on which version you obtained, it contained approximately 147 verses, all in the form of quatrains, and took the Translator many years to convert into English.
Being poetry, it doesn't take a Sherlock to appreciate that conversion from one language to another is not going to rhyme. He painstakingly learned Persian, and further set out to not alter its content but to keep its meaning in its fullest integrity.
I will not obviously quote them all, but will deliver three which I consider to be significant in the context of this current theme:
T'is a Chequerboard of Knights and Days
While Destiny with Men for Pieces plays
While hither and thither moves, and mates, and slays
Then one by one back in the Closet Lays
Strange is it Not of the Myriads who
Before us passed the Door of Darkness through
None have returned to tell us of that road
Which to discover, we must travel too
For in and out, above below
T'is nothing but a Magic Shadow Picture Show
Played around a box whose Candle is the Sun
Round which we phantom figures come and go!
The verses I have quoted were not consecutive, but I felt among many others were worthy of recall, as considering when they were written, still hold, to a degree, the poignancy today as they did then!
Goodnight and God Bless to all on TW!
244 Posted 07/12/2019 at 06:57:42
245 Posted 07/12/2019 at 07:34:00
The rights and wrongs of the DoF model can be argued but I think youre being very unfair on Brands. Its not his fault the team cant defend. Its not his fault we cant break teams down.
The team lacks organisation and commitment. Dunc might be able to inspire the latter, but the former is not something that can be fixed overnight. Our defence is a neglected shambles. Its the simple tactics that need addressing far more urgently than anything else. That was Silvas job and he had to go. Brands has nothing to do with it.
246 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:35:17
Bobby Brown shoes had Baines down as our future Philip Lahm, patrolling the area in front of the defence
247 Posted 07/12/2019 at 07:50:31
A phantom figure. Momentarily holding up a candle of his own.
248 Posted 07/12/2019 at 07:53:43
It's not Brands fault that Marco never learned from his mistakes, was tactically hopeless, no organisation, no motivation, stubborn and so on.
Where Brands could be criticised is for taking too long to bin Marco.
249 Posted 07/12/2019 at 08:24:47
Ever since we instated a DoF we've had unbalanced squads filled with expensive misfits.
Let the new manager manage the squad.
But this is tomorrow's argument, let's all get behind Big Dunc today! Three points, especially against Chelsea, would completely change the outlook for the season.
250 Posted 07/12/2019 at 08:28:43
251 Posted 07/12/2019 at 08:44:33
252 Posted 07/12/2019 at 08:51:36
Fair enough ,he missed out on a centre-back and another attacker. I can't help but feel he thought players from U23 would be stepping up as well.
253 Posted 07/12/2019 at 09:41:24
I'd love to be there to see the Old Lady back to her growling, menacing, aggressive self.
One of her favourite sons is in charge today. I am absolutely certain she will respond.
Good luck to all blues!
254 Posted 07/12/2019 at 09:44:50
255 Posted 07/12/2019 at 09:52:38
Its now 9.03 and I will be leaving quite soon for The Dark House to meet up with the whole mad gang - - we have always said ”no matter what we will be here next game” and so the Show goes on.
Just listened to the news - - grey clouds but a dry day - - no Rain on Duncan”s Parade then an looked out of the window over to The City and news travels fast, there is a massive Liner “parked up” outside The Liver Buildings - - Moshiris New Travel arrangements or maybe New Brighton Blues going up market.
Going to be an interesting day, I guess. I would imagine that most Blues will be up for this today with the best short term solution that they could hope for after Wednesday Night - - in a bit of a rush this morning - - but just listening to - - and getting myself ready - - Something In The Air:
“Call out the instigators
Because there's something in the air
We've got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution's here, and you know it's right
And you know that it's right
We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together now
Lock up the streets and houses
Because there's something in the air
We've got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution's here, and you know it's right
And you know that it's right
We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together now”
Sometime soon we have got to get it right but while Nero fiddles, I, certainly, will not allow Rome To Burn - - today is the time for commitment and togetherness - - for patience and positivity - - for strength and belief - - I appeal to some posters on the Liver Forum to give up the negativity and (sometimes unpleasant and nasty) destructive personal comments - - of course they do not affect the game or the players or the management but they create and really negative vibe - - so come on lets create a whole “posso waves” day and send them out on the astral and into the coming Blue Sky:
“You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be
All right, all right, all right
You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can
But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be
All right, all right, all right”
Love this song of The Beatles - - play it in my car at Maximum Volume - - Love when Lennon screams “All right” at the end.
For me I cannot figure the point of adding to the worlds negativity - - that does not mean I accept any old shite - - I am a strong, outspoken, proactive --- but if I didnt seriously like what I was doing or certainly spending my money on I would either pack it in - - or change it or try and stick with whoever and whatever it was through tough times - - I have been in the sewers - - I can tell you that - - but I have also been to Heaven:
“But the fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning 'round, oh oh oh, 'round 'round 'round 'round
He never listens to them
He knows that they're the fools
They don't like him
The fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning 'round
Oh, 'round 'round 'round 'round, oh”
So here I am running a bit late - - in my dressing gown from Hard days Night Hotel - - got my bag ready with my camera and moth organ - - but I personally am no Lover of “Big Dunc but I am 100,000% behind him today and every day that he shows such a commitment to The Blues and I do know that he is a truly generous and big hearted man and always has time for Blues Fans - - so I am with you today and I might even say “Big Dunc” - - something I have never said before - - so I am off soon - - but as always filling myself with joy and energy and posso waves - - so I need a bit of Van to fill my soul and spirit:
“And I Will Stroll The Merry Way
And Jump The Hedges First
And I Will Drink The Clear
Clean Water For To Quench My Thirst
And I Shall Watch The Ferry-Boats
And They'll Get High
On A Bluer Ocean
Against Tomorrow's Sky
And I Will Never Grow So Old Again
And I Will Walk And Talk
In Gardens All Wet With Rain
Oh Sweet Thing, Sweet Thing
My, My, My, My, My Sweet Thing
And I Shall Drive My Chariot
Down Your Streets And Cry
'Hey, It's Me, I'm Dynamite
And I Don't Know Why'
And You Shall Take Me Strongly
In Your Arms Again
And I Will Not Remember
That I Even Felt The Pain.
We Shall Walk And Talk
In Gardens All Misty And Wet With Rain
And I Will Never, Never, Never
Grow So Old Again.
Oh Sweet Thing, Sweet Thing
My, My, My, My, My Sweet Thing
And I Will Raise My Hand Up
Into The Night Time Sky
And Count The Stars
That's Shining In Your Eye
Just To Dig It All An' Not To Wonder
That's Just Fine
And I'll Be Satisfied
Not To Read In Between The Lines
And I Will Walk And Talk
In Gardens All Wet With Rain
And I Will Never, Ever, Ever, Ever
Grow So Old Again.”
I just wonder sometimes how Van, Mr.Lennon and other great poets and artists just somehow know how we feel and can lift us and move us - - - just like Everton can and hopefully will do today - - music and poetry and football has the power to heal - - I truly believe that:
“And the music on the radio, and the music on the radio
Has so much soul, has so much soul
And you listen, in the night time
While we're still and quiet
And you look out on the water
And the big ships, and the big boats
Came on sailing by, by, by, by
And you felt so good, and I felt so good
I felt I want to blow my harmonica”
I guess some of you think I am a bit mad - - but now - - right now - - I am picking up my harmonica and I am sitting in my writing room in New Brighton and I am going to blow some notes for all you Blues - - here we go - - close your eyes and open your hearts and I guarantee you will hear it:
“When I understood the light, when I understood the light
In the golden afternoon, in the golden afternoon
In the golden afternoon, in the golden afternoon
In the golden afternoon when we sat and listened to Sonny Boy blow”
Everything is so good and so right:
“In the eternal moment, in the eternal moment
In the eternal moment, in the eternal moment
When you lived, when you lived
When you lived, in the light”
For my 70th Birthday I got a Holy Trinity Tee Shirt - - I do not normally wear football shirts or such - - but today I am going to wear it - - - Today is a Day To Be A True Blue - - Its a Bluetiful Day - - Maybe - - Just Maybe - - Today is The Day.
I send cosmic grooves out over the Blue Skies to All Blues everywhere - - Remember Its Great To Be an Evertonian.
With a firm handshake - - Vincent Van George.
256 Posted 07/12/2019 at 09:55:07
257 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:03:10
258 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:06:15
Lets hope todays a good day for Evertonians!
259 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:09:13
Itll be interesting, to say the least.
Anyone heard from Darren? I hope the lads alright, not like him to remain silent during a momentous week.
260 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:13:50
261 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:20:57
262 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:22:08
Many wonderful memories of St Alex of the blistered feet. Best one was a 2-2 draw against United when he scored a sublime header at Gwladys Street end when he seemed to hang in the air forever. Happy days... we were true giants of the English game then.
263 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:24:28
Id be perfectly happy with the same line up (although what would that mean as weve chopped and changed so much this season?) as long as they players look like they (a) care, and (b) believe. Weve seen them do it in the odd game here and there, but then thered be five in between where they didnt.
If Id expect one strength from Ferguson itd be spirit.
264 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:28:23
But what Ferguson can be guaranteed is the backing of the 40,000 Evertonians, so lets hope with increased effort from the players and 100% backing from the fans we can get a much needed win today.
265 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:34:12
Persisting with players in poor form; playing certain players together; playing players out of position - all very much part of the DNA of Silva and why he failed.
266 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:36:43
Right, I'm off to the match!
267 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:38:26
268 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:39:52
I really don't remember Duncan Ferguson as a "one goal in a blue moon, and most of the rest of the time just kind of being a very slight 'nuisance' on the edge of the box" type of centre-forward!!!
269 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:43:31
In times like this, tactics and game plans dont mean as much. Sure effort and commitment can only take you so far, but this is the time when its the only thing that matters.
270 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:51:26
271 Posted 07/12/2019 at 11:01:33
Here's to three points and a rowdy crowd.
272 Posted 07/12/2019 at 11:12:48
I think there will be one or even two 'statement' selection decisions and we'll win this.
273 Posted 07/12/2019 at 11:30:43
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