Everton vs Chelsea

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Duncan Ferguson will take charge of his first Premier League match as manager following the dismissal of Marco Silva

Everton begin life without Marco Silva with a difficult assignment against Chelsea and Duncan Ferguson in the dugout as caretaker manager.

Silva was dismissed yesterday following a meeting with Farhad Moshiri and Ferguson, a first-team coach under the four previous managers, put in temporary charge while the club seeks a permanent successor to the Portuguese.

Like David Unsworth in 2016, it will be the first time Ferguson will have taken charge of a Premier League fixture, but, in elevating a beloved former player at a time when the team is in desperate need of points, the Everton hierarchy will hope to have ensured a raucous atmosphere at Goodison Park when the teams run out at lunchtime on Saturday.

The Scot will have just one full training session with the squad before he decides on his first starting lineup and it will be intriguing to see which players and formation he selects and how closely they tack to the ones typically selected by Silva.

Ferguson's biggest challenge will be the same as that which faced Silva in his last two matches, however — namely the lack of reliable midfield options given the injuries to Andre Gomes, Fabian Delph and Jean-Philip Gbamin.

Tom Davies and Gylfi Sigurdsson have started each of the last two games in the middle of the park but the Iceland international, in particular, has disappointed given his role as captain and supposed leader while Davies has struggled alongside him. While Sigurdsson has played as a “six” for previous clubs and at international level, he has been found wanting in that role for Everton and, once again, it will be interesting to see whether Morgan Schneiderlin, a more natural defensive midfielder, gets the nod this time.

The Frenchman started each of the last two games on the bench and came on as a second-half substitute and it remains to be seen whether Ferguson feels he is worthy of a start given the paucity of other options. Delph is expected to be ruled out again with the hamstring strain he sustained against Tottenham last month.

It's also impossible to know from the outside whether Ferguson will opt for three centre-halves, as Silva did at the King Power Stadium and Anfield, or whether he will return to a 4-2-3-1, ideally with Alex Iwobi in the No 10 slot. The Nigerian has attracted criticism from some quarters for his performances recently but he remains one of the Blues' most effective attacking players and has been involved in goals in each of the last three games despite being played out of his favoured central position.

It's not out of the question, however, that the interim boss, as a striker himself, goes with some version of 4-4-2, with two strikers or Richarlison playing off the centre-forward. It's a guess as to whether he would go with Dominic Calvert-Lewin, a No 9 in his mould, or the pacier Moise Kean who has been bright on his two showings as a sub in recent days.

Chelsea have been unexpectedly strong in Frank Lampard's first season. Expected to struggle with the loss of Eden Hazard, a transfer embargo preventing new signings over the summer, and a host of young players needing to be bedded in, the Stamford Bridge playing legend has the Londoners in fourth place, six points clear of Wolves below them.

They lost at home to West Ham on Saturday, a result that should give Everton hope for this weekend, but bounced back with a 2-1 victory over Aston Villa on Wednesday evening. They have been strong on the road against teams in the lower half this season, winning at Watford, Burnley, Southampton, and Norwich but have conceded 21 times so far, more than any team in the top seven.

With this being a home game, no-one knowing what to expect now that Silva is gone and Ferguson is in charge, and the home fans up for giving the Big Man a rousing debut, there's every reason to optimistic that Everton could get something from this match.

As they showed at Leicester, if they can stay compact at the back, not engage too high a line, and be combative in midfield, they can keep opposition chances to a minimum and then let Richarlison, the emerging Talisman in attack, and those around him try and grab goals at the other end.

A victory would take a massive load off collective Blue shoulders and bash a hole through the wall of worry that has surrounded this run of fixtures before Christmas. Get a point or three against Chelsea, take some confidence to Old Trafford to maybe force a draw there and heap more misery on Arsenal with a victory back at Goodison and things really would be looking up. Who knows — maybe Dunc can buy Messers Moshiri and Brands the time they need to find the next long-term manager without an air of panic suffocating the club's decision-making?

Kick-off: 12:30pm, Saturday 7 December, 2019
Referee: Craig Pawson
Last Time: Everton 2 - 0 Chelsea

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Sidibé, Holgate, Mina, Digne, Schneiderlin, Davies, Iwobi, Bernard, Richarlison, Calvert-Lewin

 

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Mark Andersson
1 Posted 06/12/2019 at 06:26:49
No prediction from me... I just hope the crowd are up for it..
Peter Bourke
2 Posted 06/12/2019 at 06:39:55
That’s an excellent summary Lyndon. Let’s hope the crowd give us that edge we need.
Rob Rothwell
3 Posted 06/12/2019 at 06:43:09
Of course we will Mark Duncan, Duncan Ferguson, Duncan, Duncan Ferguson loud from the rafters.

Will never forget the words of Joe Royale. ”Duncan was a hero when we needed one”.

And once again we need one.

Here’s to hoping! COYB

Andy Mead
4 Posted 06/12/2019 at 06:48:28
We havnt got a midfield so let's go 442 and a bit more direct. Keep it tight at the back with a slightly lower back line. I would go for
Pickford
Sid mins Keane bainsey
Bernard siggy Tom Digne
Richy Kean

Really have no idea how we will line up but please no 4231. Last 4 managers have tried it and it didn't work

Jeff Armstrong
5 Posted 06/12/2019 at 06:59:43
Rob# 3, Another quote from Royle, “Duncan was a legend before he was even a player “
Rob Rothwell
6 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:07:12
Here’s to really hoping Jeff #5.

“Duncan was a legend before he was a Manager”.

(Actual Manager)

Cup win (or two) & mid table safety as Caretaker.

Or am I still dreaming?

COYB

Nev Renshaw
7 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:09:43
If only he can instill his tenacious qualities into the team we've a good chance of getting out of the mire. COYB.
David Greenwood
8 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:10:31
Best of luck Duncan.

I'm sure Goodison will be rocking tomorrow. I like the look of Andys team with Digne further forward. I'd maybe have Holgate in for Keane, but other than that it's a good team for me.

If Duncan starts his presser with the words 'thank fuck he's gone' I would give him the job permanently! Legend.

Kunal Desai
9 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:25:32
Would like to see Kean and Richarlison. Drop Sigurdsson.
Mike Oates
10 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:27:00
What’s happened to Unsworth, no caretaker role offered ?
John Keating
11 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:47:37
I'd drop Pickford.
We cannot go back to the disastrous line ups we had at Leicester and our cousins.

Iwobi is far better centrally than wide. Hate to say it but I'd play Schneiderlin

4213

Lossl
Sidibe. Holgate, Mina, Digne
Davies, Schneiderlin
Iwobi
Kean, DCL, Richie

Jim Bennings
12 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:48:39
First thing I’d do if I was Duncan would be to drop Pickford for Lossl, maybe that gives him a considerable kick up the arse and shows him that nobody is in a comfort zone anymore.

What’s the point in Lossl if he’s never going to play a minute?

I’d also tell any of the players that unless they run around for 90 plus minutes and bust a guy then they get a damning report before the new man takes over, and are out the door under the new manager!

Ryan Holroyd
13 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:53:11
Lossl is absolutely horrendous. Worse than Pickford. Have a day off lads you're drunk
Jim Bennings
14 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:00:29
Ryan

Pickford has been horrendous all season.

I could go through a long list of stupid gaffes he’s made, but the biggest thing that’s pisses me off with him is his Big Time Charlie attitude, he knows he’s undroppable and that’s exactly why I would drop him, even for one match, just to show him this is the start of a new regime of hard men making decisions.

Derek Knox
15 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:04:57
Yes, as has been mentioned full support behind Duncan in his 'first' game as temporary Manager, and I appreciate that due to injuries selections are limited, but please, please, please, no Schneiderlin, he stinks the place out.

It would be a huge boost for Dunc the fans and much needed points if we can fashion a win. Somehow I feel fairly good about this game, and Chelsea have proved they can be beaten.

COYB

George Stuart
16 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:18:29
Dunc should start with a quote form some one on another thread. "If any one says playing philosophy, they can see my nut on their nose" !
Or quote Joe, Dogs of war, inelligant but it will do for now.
What are the odds of a red card for snotting Lampard in the technical area ?
You've got to laugh otherwise you'll have to cry.
Steve Brown
17 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:21:05
The fans will be key to getting fire into the team‘s belly and making them to at least put up a fight. I hope Duncan makes the decision to drop players who have failed every manager over the last 2-3 years. Sigurdsson, Schneiderlin, Walcott and Tosun are done at Everton and have to be dropped. Tempted to add Pickford and Keane into that mix - Pickford faced 5 shots on target in the Derby and conceded how many goals? But at least on occasions this season they have shown glimpses of form and commitment.
Chris Perry
18 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:25:40
Glad he has gone.

Big Dunc 4-4-2!

Lossl
Sidibe
Mina
Holgate
Digne
Richarlison
Davies
Iwobi
Bernard
Calvert-Lewin
Kean

Tony Hill
19 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:28:41
Let's hope Chelsea aren't up for it at lunchtime in the north and in a hostile atmosphere (if we can create one). Otherwise, I don't see how Duncan can do very much given our raw materials at present.

i would also drop Pickford. He is a source of defensive anxiety and needs to refocus.

Gary Willock
20 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:30:41
Time to ALL to get behind the team and the club again. The clown is gone, and whilst we have no midfield, we still have some good players here and therefore some hope. Let’s get behind Duncan and the boys and sing them home on Saturday.

Duncan, Duncan Ferguson. Duncan, Duncan Ferguson. Here we go!

Gary Willock
21 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:40:05
Brave selection needed.

Pickford
Sidibe Mina Gibson Digne
Davies Iwobi Bernard
Gordon Kean Richarlison

Lossl
Holgate
Adeniran
Sigurdsson
DCL
Tosun

Derek Knox
22 Posted 06/12/2019 at 08:59:32
Gary, like your line-up with 2 of the youngsters being given a chance other than the bench, whether that will happen, remains to be seen, it certainly would serve as a wake-up call to many under-performing senior pros.

Chelsea haven't been afraid to include their young guns, although it has to be said Tammy Abrahams and Mason Mount, have had loan experience before being thrust into battle, and it has worked for both. Add Reece James to those names too.

Come on Dunc, be bold and make 'em tick!

Jonathan Tasker
23 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:10:18
Two things to point out.

Brands has something of the night about him. He’s not to be trusted. Despite spending a fortune, the squad is at its weakest for years.

All of Silva’s back room staff have reportedly gone. Yet Duncan Disorderly is still around.

Make no mistake, Kenwright is still calling the shots.

James Marshall
24 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:16:20
All this stuff about dropping first team players, and teaching them a lesson etc is old-hat thinking I'm afraid. The modern day player (and you can ask any ex pro who will admit this) is a sensitive creature who has to be cajoled and cared for like a child a lot of the time.

If you go round dropping people willy nilly for not very much, then you create disharmony very quickly these days. Remember, you're not dealing with players who are glad to be there anymore, you're dealing with young men who are millionaires by the time they're 20 and will simply get in a huff and leave if they don't get what they want.

This is the delicate reality of modern football, and modern management I'm afraid.

We as supporters see managers appearing weak, but the above stands up in the modern game, and they have little choice. When managers do drop players (managers such as Mourinho) have you not noticed the outcry? People think it's a huge deal these days dropping someone, and a large part of that is the millionaire prima donna that lives inside every one of them.

It's an incredibly delicate balancing act for managers nowadays.

Gary Willock
25 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:17:35
Thanks Derek. For me it’s exactly like you say it is - ‘a wake-up call’. Show them that no-one is guaranteed a place anymore, and that all bets are now off. Send the mental confirmation that silvers gone, and this is a brand new dawn.

I think it would be a mistake if Dunc just tried to “carry on silvering” with the 4-2-3-1 and the usual failures of Schneiderlin, Walcott, Siggy etc getting straight in when it’s clear they haven’t earned it. Without Gomes, Delph and Gbamin we are also too lightweight in the middle for a 2, so back it with a 3 and ask Gordon and Richie to drop back in to make a 5 when defending.

All conjecture at this stage, so I’ll finish the same as you: come on the big man, be bold!

Sam Morrison
26 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:20:11
I hope I'm wrong but I think there is too much wrong with this squad for a kick up the arse and a noisy crowd to fix it. I can see the momentum evaporating very quickly if we concede.
Steve Brown
27 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:25:07
James @ 24,"If you go round dropping people willy nilly for not very much, then you create disharmony very quickly these days". I get your point. Today's players are not motivated in the same way as previous generations and can simply stop playing for a manager.

But there are players in the squad (mostly senior pros), who have failed in every team and under every manager. Standards will never improve until they are gone. We already have so much disharmony at the club that I think have to take advantage of this crisis to make significant change.

Gary Willock
28 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:25:21
So what you’re saying James is effectively :

“don’t drop the players who have been performing shite for months (whilst being cuddled and cajoled), cos we don’t want to chance upsetting prima donna rich boys who don’t have the backbone and desire to fight for their place back if they get upset”.

Seriously?

That’s insane no-one should be too big for the club. No-one should be guaranteed a spot. Everyone should know that if they don’t perform then someone else gets a shot.

Anyway, I’m off to tell my ‘boss’ I don’t fancy doing a shift today. hopefully he’s a ‘modern manager’ and decides to give me a cuddle instead of being pissed we don’t get the proposal out on time.

Alan J Thompson
29 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:32:28
If he plays Schneiderlin then he makes the same mistake of all those before him, caretaker or otherwise. Given all those out on loan then he has little choice in the way of change to energize the team as a whole other than to try and make the defence more difficult to penetrate.
Paul A Smith
30 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:33:36
How stuck in the past are we? From dedictation to Kenwright gossip to talking about Duncan Ferguson like he is an angry man still on the playing field.

Nothing but shite to gossip and boring old snipes about boring old men.

Some of the quotes are like Bingo talk for supposed grown men with lovely grammar.

People already whining about team selection to pop at Ferguson. Absolute stinks this. With the options we have, the performances yiu have witnessed. Just fuck off to the Mecca for a few pages of bingo.

James Marshall
31 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:35:22
Gary - this isn't my opinion, and I don't agree with it either. It is however, the way of the modern player to some degree. I agree with you, it's madness but it is the reality of the modern millionaire footballer. It certainly doesn't apply to us mere mortals.

Example: Shneiderlin, clearly stealing a healthy living off Everton, could be sold on to say, Southampton, his old club, where he'll be paid millions to play at another mid table side. Where's his motivation to put in any effort?

See what I mean? This is the point I'm trying to make. You drop a player like that he just goes, so fucking what? I don't care about Everton anyway.

Derek Knox
32 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:37:03
I watched the BBC News this morning with special interest in the Sports round-up, which obviously they mentioned the sacking of Marco Silva, but I was aghast to hear, that we still have to pay Watford £4M for 'tapping up' Silva.

In addition they said that he would receive £12M in Compensation, in regards to his Contract being terminated, so summing up, all in all it has cost the Club £16M to get rid of that clown.

I do hope someone who knows better can come on here and either refute those BBC claims, or qualify them. I was under the impression that Silva was on something like £3-4M per annum (still far too much imho) and the Watford issue had been well and truly put to bed.

They also said that Moyes is still favourite to take over in the future, not only do I hope there is no truth in that whatsoever, but also throws the Compensation and Watford claims as being erroneous too.

If Moyes is to be considered, why is Dunc in charge temporarily? I do hope Dunc does well but can't see him doing that well that he would be given the job permanently.

I still feel the Board have bought time, and in putting Dunc in temporary charge are thinking long and hard, and desperate to ensure that the next appointment, is totally correct. As another 'mistake' could be so costly, not only financially but in terms of our status in the Premiership and our credibility as a Club in general.

Marcus Leigh
33 Posted 06/12/2019 at 10:00:30
I hope Big Dunc picks himself up front.
Paul A Smith
34 Posted 06/12/2019 at 10:16:14
The sky app has Ancellotti as a target. Who are they trying to kid?

Just seen that Perriera famous press conference, nobody would mess with him and Dunc as a duo.

Bill Fairfield
35 Posted 06/12/2019 at 10:43:35
Wouldn't let Schniederlin anywhere near the squad let alone the team,he's a complete waste of time,put me on a right downer if he gets another chance he doesn't deserve
Jer Kiernan
36 Posted 06/12/2019 at 10:44:32
Very interesting to see what the Big Man does, has he been sitting there all this time thinking re Silva/Koeman/FS etc "this guy hasnt a clue"- "I would play it this way etc" -has he been looking at Shneids thinking "this guy is a space waster if I was in charge I would put him through the wall"

I get the impression that Dunc has never considered the step up to 1st team coach and is a kind of reluctant appointment, then again off the pitch he was a reluctant Star.

If memory serves, I believe in his heyday, when approached by Journo's asking "having you anything to say Dunc" he would retort "yea F*ck off" after a while they gave up and left him alone

I do hope he at least tries to put his own stamp on selections and would love to see some blood and thunder in a 4-4-2 with Kean and DCL upfront, Defo Bernard in there for me I think although a frustrating figure at times,he can unlock defenses and go around players to create space and wouldnt be adverse to some game time for the promising youth we here so much about ,

Anyway once again when the club is on its arse we turn to Dunc,

Cometh the hour cometh the man !!

COYB

Russ Quinlan
37 Posted 06/12/2019 at 10:47:58
Dunc was a surprise but when you look at the videos of him on the bench, you can see he is fuming at whats happening on the pitch but because he wasn't No 1 or No 2 I expect he could't give the players the rocket from the sideline. He has that look in his eyes like he did when playing and I hope that passion now is shown to some of the useless bstards in the team. I personally can't see him putting up with the crap that Schnieds or Siggy have been getting away with. Also do we not have ANY Under 23's worthy of promotion in place of those 2 in particular ?
Franny Porter
38 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:00:06
This is such a big ask for Duncan.

The spine of the squad is absolutely terrible, with close to zero options to replace them.

Pickford, Keane, Holgate, Sidibe, Davies, Sigurdsson, DCL, Tosun all poor.

Genuinely don't envy him having to pick at least two midfielders.

I hope he goes 442 or 4411.

Personally Id go:

Pickford
Coleman
Baines
Mina
Keane
Bernard
Davies
Baningime
Digne
Richarlison
Kean

David Pearl
39 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:03:20
Derek
Does that take us to £50M compensation paid to our last few failed managers? Unbelievable.

I’m wondering what happens to Duncan Ferguson after the game. How long will he be in temporary charge for? Once we do get a new guy in will he remain as forward coach, or will he move on?

Brian Roach
40 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:08:37
If Duncan can do what Silva couldn't i.e. get the best out of the players, and I believe he can, we may not have to search for another hugely expensive manager.

Tomorrow is a massive game in so many ways and we all have to play a part, get right behind the team and the big man and remember he has blue blood running through his veins.

Paul A Smith
41 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:12:36
All the ones who raved about Schnied footballer now trying to use him as a weapon for moaning already.

Anyone watch Arsenal last night? The worst premier league Arsenal ever? Well Brands the loved up genius signed a fringe player from that shit Arsenal side.

What a guy this Marcel Cowell character is.

Derek Knox
42 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:32:55
David P @ 39, not being a Financial Expert but if all is to be believed, yes it's got to be around the £50M mark.

While that ridiculous amount could reluctantly, be excused and put down to a mistake not to be repeated, it would accountable if we were sitting 3rd or 4th in the Table, but in reality we currently occupy the relegation trio.

There's no fool like a rich fool eh! Or something to that effect.

Are you back in Toronto David, hope your health issues are well taken care of, and hope to see you again soon, there should be another TW get Together in the New Year now that the gloom has been lifted, but definitely around March/April when Mike Gaynes is coming over again.

Gerard Carey
43 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:37:39
How about:

Pickford.
Sidibe Holgate Mina Digne
Coleman Davies Sigurdsson Richarlison
Calvert-Lewin Kean

Worth a go!!?

Chas Mansour
44 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:45:05
Noticed that the first team squad were told to stay behind at Finch Farm after everyone had left yesterday. Would've been nice to have been a fly on the wall!
David Pearl
45 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:47:13
Derek
Sounds great. I’m actually going away Sunday down to lsrael to do some volunteer work. I’m back beginning of March. I’ve been told that l want a phone signal it’s good in one spot of a certain field... so l might miss the all the goings on. Take care of yourself Derek... we shall hit the links in Spring. Or miss them badly. Be good to catch up with you and to meet Mike and the other.

Are you ready for the bagpipes tomorrow?

Ray Roche
46 Posted 06/12/2019 at 11:52:58
David@39,Derek,
It was reported a couple of years ago that Chelsea had paid more out in compensation to sacked managers than Everton had spent on players.
And yes, we’ll have to get a golf meeting organised in the Spring.
Neil Lawson
47 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:02:20
What has he got to lose ( his job too, maybe ) ?. Time to be brave. Time for a change. The crowd support will be there. Good old fashioned 4 4 2 required. Unsworth made radical changes which so nearly worked. He was unlucky. If zBeni is fit then play him. Richarlison and Keane up front and forget the 2 S midfielders. They give little. Above all, let's see real passion and commitment. Let's hear Goodison rocking. Oh, and leave Pickford on the bench to ponder with his ego ( unless he dives over it again or drops it)
Eddie Dunn
48 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:04:53
Duncan's selection will speak volumes. It will be interesting to see who he axes.
I don't expect much change but a 4-4-2 would be nice, and I fancy Kean with Richarlison up top.
Chelsea have Abraham and he, along with Mount will be hard to contain. Both have quick feet and good movement. Our static centre-halves will need lots of trackers from midfield if they are going to keep them out.
Fingers crossed.
Ray Robinson
49 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:11:24
For anyone wanting Pickford dropped, have you seen Lossl? Bang average keeper.
David Pearl
50 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:13:05
Ray, think of all the money Moyes saved us over 11 years paying no compensation! :)

It will be interesting to see the team and formation Duncan picks, what has he picked up from the managers he’s been with. I want to see 3 midfielders and try to control the game for a change. Up front l also want 3. Walcott, Kean and Richarlison.

Ray Roche
51 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:14:43
Interestingly, Ferguson has Ebrell, Jeffers but no Unsworth in his backroom staff.
Ray Roche
52 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:16:50
David, Walcott before Bernard? Really?
Or Richarlison on the left and Theo on the right?
James Marshall
53 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:17:49
Ray - there won't be enough space on the bench for Rhino as well.
Kevin Jones
54 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:21:11
Hopefully Dunc will do well. I tell this story to anyone wanting to listen. For Moyes's last game in charge of Everton. I was invited on a corporate day from a company who sponsored the match ball. We where in our own little side room of a bigger lounge, guest of honour was Kevin Sheedy. In his speech after the game he said Everton should only look for 1 man to take the job and that was Duncan. He went on to say he's a great coach a true leader and loves the club. So if Sheeds says he was ready then, he should be even more ready now. If you watch the Toffee TV lads Interview with Duncan he comes across as a passionate Blue, I think you will see him in a new light. COYB
Danny Broderick
55 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:21:54
A few years ago when Unsie took over against Norwich, he played some of the kids (Tom Davies and Kieran Dowell) and didn’t select some of the established players who had been underperforming. I suspect Duncan might do the same with Anthony Gordon. I also suspect we may see Baines and Coleman at full back, and Digne left midfield. At least the ground will be rocking anyway...
Ray Roche
56 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:24:09
James, Sorry mate, wasn’t thinking!
John Graham
57 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:28:59
Good luck on your first game Duncan.
You will have all of the fans behind you.
Hope the players do their best and get the result.
COYB
Kevin Prytherch
58 Posted 06/12/2019 at 12:32:52
If Beni and Coleman are back I would play them. I’d drop Pickford, Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson and Iwobi. None have done anything to merit a place in the team. I would also bring back Baines, we need experience at the back, Coleman and Baines will provide it. It might be harsh on Digne but he is still too suspect defensively (I know Baines is, but Digne More is IMO). I would also play Kean off DCL.

Lossi
Coleman, Holgate, Mina, Baines
Richarlison, Davies, Beni, Bernard
DCL Kean

Digne, Sigurdsson, Keane, Adenerin, Gordon, Iwobi, Pickford.

Steve Ferns
59 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:27:09
Derek, Silva was on £3m a year. A 3 year £9m deal. Dunno where they've got £12m from. If they paid in full for the rest of the contract, that's £4.5m. Silva didn't have us with our pants round our ankles like Allardyce, so he didn't get the big money, and I'd expect we also had termination clauses in that were much more favourable than the last few managers.

Imagine if Duncan Ferguson is a very clever guy, which he hopefully is. Imagine if he's like a sponge soaking up all that coaching knowledge. Imagine taking the best of Martinez, the best of Koeman, the best of Allardyce and the best of Silva. Being able to play great possession football, being tactically astute, being defensively sold, and being a great hands-on coach. Knowing our luck he'll have picked up all of their worst habits!

Richard Reeves
60 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:29:14
He's not going to have much time to do it so I hope he gets a result from the off. If he turns it around and the crowd are behind him, these next few games could be amazing but obviously it's a difficult ask. Good luck to him and the team. COYB!

Craig Walker
61 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:31:43
A bit like the Martinez era, the pinnacle of Silva's time at the club will be the home game against Man United last season for me. I genuinely thought we had the makings of a good team and were going places. It's amazing how fortunes change at Everton.

I saw a thing in the BBC gossip saying Alan Pardew would be interested in the Everton job. My 81-year old mum would be interested in the Everton job, Alan, and she'd do a decent job.

Duncan divides opinion but he's a legend in my eyes. On his day, he put the wind up the RS - he never lost against them in his first spell. We've had more talented players since but nobody who put the fear into that lot like he did. Hope the Big Man gets a good result tomorrow and lifts the place. God knows we need it!

Raymond Fox
62 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:32:42
It's a poor do when players need the crowd urging them on to play well. I think it over-rated personally, but maybe it matters... it's not a negative at any rate.

What team Ferguson will pick tomorrow different from Silva's is hard to predict, he's not that many options for his debut as a manager. Maybe he will think attack is the best form of defence, I think that's the way I would look at it. Muck or nettles.

I see our relegation odds have come down again unsurprisingly, I can't have us going down though I think we'll stay in the Premier League with a bit to spare. We got beat in the last two games by passes that were of pinpoint accuracy and would have beaten any defence, never mind ours.

Let's hope Chelsea have an off day and we get something out of the game, 2-1 to us more in hope than expectancy.

Michael Lynch
63 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:33:00
I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but I have this nightmare that Dunc is in charge on Saturday with the expectation at board level that we will lose heavily, thus softening up the fans for the appointment of Moyes on an 18-month contract in the middle of next week. Ferguson is just a buffer between SIlva and Moyes.
Tony Hill
64 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:37:40
Might be right, Michael, but I still think any such outcome would scupper Brands's position at the club. Perhaps they (the other Board members) don't care.

Problem is we're all speculating wildly, of course.

Steve Ferns
65 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:41:29
Craig, I was a massive Ferguson fan as a kid, being a young teenager when he arrived. I felt he let me down too many times. Regardless of that though, imagine the message we can send to our players tomorrow. The atmosphere will be electric. I have no doubt about that. The roof will come off Goodison before the ball is kicked.

It'll be like when Unsworth beat Silva's Watford. The players, our players, are going to hear the "Duncan, Duncan Ferguson" chant ring out from all four corners like they have never heard before. Richarlison might think he's the darling of the Gwladys Street but he's going to think again when he hears how much louder Duncan's name is sung.

Our players should wake up and realise that when we love a player, we really love a player. Give us your best and turn up and put a shift in and we won't forget you.

When's the last time, other than Unsworth, we heard the crowd sing our manager's name? I think we have to go back to Martinez and the cup runs. We never sang for Koeman, Allardyce and certainly not for Silva.

Martin Berry
66 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:44:24
I think tomorrow the atmosphere will be really cranked up with Big Dunc doing the caretaking. How he will set up is anyone's guess with the midfield injuries.

For me, I would love to see Bernard play the Number 10, his quick feet and eye for a pass could be very interesting. Also, with him weighing the same as a 2 lb bag of sugar, he is likely to get us a few free kicks.

Good luck to the team and Big Dunc.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

67 Posted 06/12/2019 at 13:56:26
Ferguson's first interview is all fire and brimestone.

Link

Be interesting to see if his tactics match.

Phil Smith
68 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:05:39
That definitely won't be the team. I think he'll shake things up and try to make his stamp on the side. He'll probably play with two wingers. Bernard and Gordon?

He'll almost certainly bring in at least 1 player from the reserves to let everyone know it's a new slate. If not, he'd be a fool.

Steve Carse
69 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:06:09
Steve (59), there's also the matter of the 3 or 4 backroom staff that came with Silva. You're right though, still wouldn't come to £12m.
Steve Ferns
70 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:07:53
Steve, they have all gone. Even Bruno Mendes who had never worked with Silva before Everton and was brought in as something of a coup from Benfica. I thought Brands might retain him. So, it's a fresh broom. Link
Steve Ferns
71 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:12:05
Phil, I bet he will go with Evertonians wherever he can, by that I mean Coleman, Davies, Holgate, Calvert-Lewin, maybe even Gordon. I'd also think Walcott will get a look in.

I expect two up top and 4-4-2. We've got no fit midfielders and so 4-4-2 is the only formation that makes sense, especially if it keeps Schneiderlin and Sigurdsson out of the side.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

72 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:17:59
On the same page I linked to with the Ferguson interview on, scroll down and listen and WATCH Richarlison obviously being interviewed post-match after the Derby.

He often gets accused of looking a right sour puss on the pitch. That's his game face. He takes his profession very seriously. Even after he scored our 2nd on Wednesday, he didn't celebrate his goal. It was more 'Cummon! We've got more to do yet.'

Again, throughout the intererview he wears a permanent frown. Now I have the advantage of being able to understand the tone and content of his spoken Portuguese (the English translation is not always literal), but it is self-evident he is hurting. BAD!

I found it the most frank and honest player interview I've seen in months, possibly years, from an Everton player.

He immediately swats away the praise the interviewer gives him on his goal. He replies 'it's meaningless if we lose. It's no good scoring goals if concede them too easily. We need to be more responsible, we need to mature quickly.'

There's lots of good stuff in the interview. He closes by saying again 'we need to beat our chests, to play for the shirt, to be more responsible. We need to win. A 1-0 win would be a great result for us.'

(In Portuguese, he actually describes a 1-0 win as 'goleado', which is the phrase used when a team wins by a lot of goals).

The team needs more like him with this attitude, not less.

Danny Broderick
73 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:19:03
Just seen that Coleman is out. I fancy he would have started under Duncan...
Jason Wilkinson
74 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:19:12
Will Richy throw himself to the ground?
Will Siggy and Morgan (if picked) stand like statues?
Duncan might not be ready to take the reigns but I cant see him putting up with anything less than 100%
David Pearl
75 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:19:53
Very interesting reply by Duncan.

Q. How did the squad react to the news?
A. Mixed.

I gather from that, some were sad to see him go and others pleased. That for me points to us needing a manager with a good grasp of English (yeah yeah okay that might rule out Moyes). The players need to learn English, we shouldn’t be getting a Portuguese to make certain players happy. Team bonding is needed. Maybe a reason for Moshiri and his team talk yesterday.

Tony Hill
76 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:24:32
I think Richarlison is maturing. He contained himself very well under provocation on Wednesday and was comfortably our best player.

Very promising.

Neil Wood
77 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:24:42
Only a few weeks ago I was pushing for a 442 formation. I was slated on here:
“No place in the modern game”
“Times have changed”

Now every man and their dog are wanting it !!

Strange that...

I think Dunc may just lift the place and surprise a few people. He seems steely and determined and I wish him the very best. Crowd needs to be ferocious

Steve Ferns
78 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:25:07
Jay, he's one of the few players right now who are a credit to the club. We were right to tie him down. His attitude is what will take him to the top.
Dave Abrahams
79 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:33:47
It’s only for one game up to now, Ferguson’s managership, interesting partners for that game, very interesting partners, hope it goes well for us fans and especially the team.
Ed Prytherch
80 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:36:28
Keane and Pickford were two players who were sucking up to Silva a few days ago. I will be interested to see how they perform, if they are selected.
Denis Richardson
81 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:41:21
Just hope the change of face in the dugout is enough to give the place a bit of a lift.

No idea what formation or who DF will play but one things for sure, please don't make it the same as the last few games. We need something different and need to be more direct.

I'd like to have Coleman in the side if fit and see us either play 433, 442 or 4411. Keep it tight and play to our strengths. The likes of Richarlison, Iwobi and Kean all have pace - lets use this. Drop Sigurdsson from the start as we need some more steel in the midfield.

DF isn't the answer but what a lift it would give to get 3 points tomorrow and move us out of the drop zone. Chelsea are not the team they used to be and are nothing to be feared.

Start Kean

Phil Greenough
82 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:44:59
Does anyone know what Boa Morte is doing at Everton? Ferguson never mentioned him in the interview.
David Pearl
83 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:45:21
Neil, 77

Maybe some want 442 because they think that’s all Duncan is capable of training them to do.

I want 3 in midfield so we don’t get overrun in there.

Steve Ferns
84 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:47:06
Phil he's gone. See link at #70 for details.
Mike Doyle
85 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:47:17
Phil 82] Boa Morte went last night too.
Jamie Evans
86 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:47:55
Good luck big man. We are all behind you.
At least I hope we are.

One love. One team. One Everton.

Tell your children.

Steve Ferns
87 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:49:53
Duncan worked with the kids under Moyes, and transitioned from youth to first team under Martinez, and was properly first team under Koeman. This was around the time Calvert-Lewin signed for Everton. Duncan should have been working with Dominic for at least 5 years. Of all our players, he's the one who's best in the air. If Dom and Dunc have a strong relationship I would expect him to get the nod.
Bill Gall
88 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:53:31
As most managers bring in their own staff there is no surprises that his coaching staff has left as well. This left Everton with 2 choices for interim manager either Unsworth or Ferguson. I thought it would have gone to Unsworth .but glad Ferguson was picked for just his enthusiasm and desire for the club to do well.

He has a tough job and I am sure all true blue supporters will be 100% behind him. I cant see him taking any risks and I think the team may be.
Pickford Holgate Mina Digne
Davies Schneiderlin Iwobi
Richarlison Kean Bernard

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

89 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:53:36
Dave @ 79.

I am also intrigued by who Ferguson will have on the bench alongside him tomorrow - Jeffers, Ebrell and Kelly. Unsworth nowhere.

Now I understand all Silva's auxilliary staff have been binned with him and there were little or no alternatives left for Ferguson to choose from, but it does highlight again the 'Everton old boy' infrastructure that continues to permeate on all levels at the club.

I'm probably not alone in wondering how Unsworth featured in things in the last 24 hours. Barely two years ago, on stepping in as caretaker boss for Koeman, he declared on day one that he was 'ready for this', to be a PL manager.

No need to rake over cold coals on the different perceptions of how that went, but it has been curious - at least to me - just how passive David has been since returning to his U-23 duties.

That he coaches well at that level is no question. He has the trophies to show for it. Many players schooled under him have progressed to first team football, although not enough IMO to first team football at Everton.

If, as he stated, he was ready to be a first team boss, then why hasn't he applied for any number of positions for which he would have been a serious candidate?

Did the short, sharp experience of being Everton's manager damage his confidence in some way? Has he acknowledged he isn't cut out for the job at the highest level? That doing what he does with academy players is his comfort zone and what he derives the greatest satisfaction from?

I write the above not to deride Unsworth. I like him as a man and a junior coach. If he has found contentment and satisfaction in his current role, I don't begrudge him that at all.

But I do wonder if he was offered the caretaker role yesterday, but refused it. Or whether he was entirely overlooked.

Whatever it was, it signals loud and clear to me that as long as Moshiri is at Everton, Unsworth will never again get a shot at being first team manager as some have lobbied for.

Derek Knox
90 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:56:37
Dave @ 79, initially it is for one game yes, and I think they believe Chelsea are playing reasonably well, so we are not expected to get anything from this game.

Personally I think, and hope that we will see a different Everton tomorrow, I also believe the groundswell of support and relief, that Silva has gone, coupled with a decent team selection, we may just get a result.

Which brings me to my next point, which admittedly is based on a hypothesis, what happens if Dunc really pulls the stops out, with his novice management and team selection?

Do they extend his tenure?

If so, by how long, and do you think they really have a Candidate in mind, or are they just back-pedalling/buying time?

Rob Halligan
91 Posted 06/12/2019 at 14:57:10
Bill # 88. I know we are short of one of two players, but your predicted starting "eleven" in fact only has ten players.
Mark Guglielmo
92 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:02:31
Why are people still calling for Coleman to play? He's out, and is reported as being out until January.

If anyone watched Dunc's presser, Delph is still out (shocking), and now Mina is doubtful, so more good news. Abraham is confirmed healthy and back for Chelsea as well. So prepare for Abraham & Pulisic vs Keane & Holgate. At least we'll get to see Zouma at Goodison again, so that's something. On the plus side, FIFA reduced Chelsea's transfer ban to just the 1 window they've already endured, so maybe they'll go buy some expensive CB and free up ones of theirs for us again.

Anyhow..

My preferred lineup:
Lossl
Sidibe Holgate Keane Digne
Iwobi Davies Schneiderlin Bernard
Kean Richarlison

Jeez even writing that out we're not starting out with many good options here.

What we'll probably see:
Pickford
Sidibe Holgate Keane Digne
Davies Sigurdsson
Richarlison Iwobi Bernard
DCL

Lossl
Baines
Gibson
Walcott
Kean
Schneiderlin
Tosun

Best we can hope for prediction: 1-1 draw

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

93 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:02:43
Rob @ 91.

That reminds me of the old chestnut about Ferguson taking on the entire Liverpool team by himself in some bizarre scenario.

After the game, meeting up with his team mates, they asked him how the game went.

"We lost, 1-0."

"But that's an amazing result, you keeping all 11 RS players at bay and losing just 1-0."

"Aye, but it's ma fault that we lost. I got meself sent off with 10 minutes to go!"

Steve Ferns
94 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:02:48
Valid points Jay, but what about the fact that Ferguson is closer. He has worked with these players and he knows them all. Presumably inside out. Unsworth has not worked with them since his caretaker spell. Back then he had goodwill to have a run at the job permanently. This time it seems like we are all about tomorrow and no further. One days training and into the game, who is best placed to pick the team and get a tune out of the boys? Could anyone put up a strong case for Unsworth.

But Unsworth now has to ask himself where he’s at and where he’s going. If this is it, then great. He’s paid very well and does very well. Most of us would dream of doing his job at that level.

If he wants more, then he needs to leave and take the risk on a league one club. What you might not realise is that the risk is a pay cut. He’s on very good money at a PL u23 side and more than your average League one manager. Is it worth giving that up for a league where the average manager lasts less than a season. And so he is likely to be sacked and then kiss good bye to that salary.

Steve Ferns
95 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:05:50
Derek Chelsea have stumbled a little. Defeat against Man City, draw in Europe at Valencia, defeat at home by West Ham and then overcame a scare against Villa.
John Kavanagh
96 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:07:07
Rob @91. Sorry to correct you but it's nine - he's included Schneiderlin.
Derek Knox
97 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:07:28
Rob @ 91, if you find out who it is, he should reprimanded for being late on parade. 😋
Bill Gall
98 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:08:58
Rob senior moment I was going to put Siggy behind the front3 between midfield and forward line
Mark Guglielmo
99 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:10:48
Derek @90 I've always taken the role of "caretaker" to mean 1-however many weeks are needed before the next, permanent manager is appointed. So not just 1 week and see what happens IMO. Not sure if that addresses your question around will be/won't he be extended.

Also IMO going with a coaching staff caretaker is a very good indication that someone like Moyes is not under any sort of serious consideration.

Without any inside info, it simply appears to me that Ferguson is being asked to hold the line and pick up what points he can, while final shortlist consideration then negotiations take place for the new manager. I've been told by someone on the NSNO forums who works for the Club that they've narrowed the shortlist to 4 managers. He didn't know who they were.

Paul Tran
100 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:12:51
I expect a reaction tomorrow, on and off the pitch. Hopefully the talk of fight and energy will be matched by picking players with pace, energy and new-found fight.

And in the background, the adults narrowing their search for our fire-starter manager.

Ed Prytherch
101 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:15:03
Duncan said that his main job today is to motivate the players. Presumably he thinks that has been lacking.

As for David Unsworth, he may really like living on Merseyside and not want to step out of his comfort zone. That is fine with me. Too many people are promoted to their level of incompetence and then find it hard to step back down.

Steve Ferns
102 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:17:00
Ed or it could mean that the team is deflated after a run of defeats and the axe falling on their boss and potentially some of them being on their way out under a new manager.
Mark Guglielmo
103 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:24:04
Steve @95 I wouldn't necessarily call Chelsea losing at City "stumbling." An away draw at Valencia is hardly something to hang your head in shame over either given that they're dead tied in their CL group and competitive (7th) in La Liga.

The home loss to West Ham does look bad, but over the past few games they've been without Abraham, Barkley, Hudson-Odoi, and Rudiger for 1 or more of them. All but Rudiger have been declared fit for tomorrow.

Phil Greenough
104 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:25:21
Thanks, Mike and Steve, I missed that post.
Ed Prytherch
105 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:25:26
Steve, I like the last line of your post.
Steve Ferns
106 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:27:07
Mark, it’s the four results taken together. Against Villa they were hanging on and glad for the whistle at the end. They were flying four games ago and this is a slight stumble. There’s a chink in their armour. We can exploit that.
Ian Jones
107 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:28:08
Bill, actually your original team was correct. You had picked 11. Based on recent performances, you included Siggy as the Invisible Man.
Mark Guglielmo
108 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:30:25
Steve, at least they have armor to be chinked! Like I said, pray for 1-1.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

109 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:32:02
Steve @ 94.

I agree on that Steve that Ferguson has been working close to the first team for 5 years now since Martinez promoted him.

You yourself in the past suggested that Ferguson is nothing more than the cone placer in training. Possibly he is a bit more than that, possibly he is simply the Last Man Standing!

As for David Unsworth, it is not unreasonable to assume that he has come to accept his lot as his roll is now defined at Everton, or he still has higher ambitions for himself which clearly cannot be fulfilled by staying at Everton and to achieve them he will need to move on.

It wasn't just the dynamic around the first team that Silva's dismissal yesterday will impact on IMO.

Depending on whether Brands genuinely has authority on all aspects of the football infrastructure at the club, there might be plenty of fallout and collateral damage to follow yet with the whole set up being completely revamped with New Blood.

Interesting times.

Derek Knox
110 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:32:28
Mark @ 99, " I've been told by someone on the NSNO forums who works for the Club that they've narrowed the shortlist to 4 managers. He didn't know who they were ".

I think we can only appoint one. 😂😋

Brent Stephens
111 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:35:22
David #75 "Very interesting reply by Duncan.
Q. How did the squad react to the news?
A. Mixed.
I gather from that, some were sad to see him go and others pleased".

Or a mixture of pleased and ecstatic.

Rennie Smith
112 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:37:10
Mixed = sad to see anyone get the bullet, keen to show they can pull their bloody fingers out
Don Alexander
113 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:38:05
Don Alexander
114 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:38:05
As long as the names Pulis, Allardyce, Moyes and Hughes aren't on that list!
Kieran Kinsella
115 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:38:33
Brent 111

Duncan presser
" When I plunged in my knife (haven't cleaned it since we did Sam in) Marco said "Et tu Duncan?" I said "you daft twat, eto'o left years ago, my name is Ferguson."

Dave Abrahams
116 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:39:57
Jay (89), neither Duncan or David fill me with any sense of everything will be okay, Duncan, backed by a roaring crowd, might get something out of the Chelsea game. I hope he has the sense to defend deep with Keane in the centre of defence, if Colman was fit I would have been tempted to play Sidibe in midfield.

Maybe Duncan will surprise most of us and turn out to be an inspirational manager, then again !!

Kieran Kinsella
117 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:42:19
Relying on Dunc's good judgement tomorrow. We don't know a lot about his management skills but how about his judgement in general:

Money matters: earned millions, goes bankrupt
Temperament: gets tackled, head butts opponent
Lifestyle: Alcoholic

So all in all it looks pretty encouraging.

Steve Ferns
118 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:43:56
Jay, the man himself denied he just put the cones out. Maybe his duties increased over the years. If he’s really been a key part of the Everton management then he should have been sacked along with the others. I see Martinez and Koeman haven’t tried to recruit him to work part time for their national jobs. If silva makes a resurgence (I wouldn’t rule out a return to sporting before the start of next season) I doubt he’ll be ringing Duncan up to come help him coach Real Madrid or whatever.

As far as tomorrow goes, fully behind the big fella. I hope we win 10-0, he gets the job full time and wins every game for the next ten years and has a statue of him outside the Bramley Moore Dock stadium which is to be renamed in his honour!

Dave Abrahams
119 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:43:58
Brent (111), maybe that reply was in answer to Duncan telling them he was in charge tomorrow.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

120 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:45:43
Dave @ 166, I wonder if Ferguson might find a place in the team for Baines with Coleman and various midfielders out and neither of our French (nominal!) full backs filling this Blue with confidence at the moment.
Paul Tran
121 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:45:45
On a different note, Darren Hind's been missing the past week. Anyone heard from him, is he OK?
Brent Stephens
122 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:49:49
Kevin #58 Just seen your post. I like much of the team you suggest. Keane and Siggy benched - yes.
Beni - yes.
Kean playing off DCL - yes.
Adeniran and Gordon on the bench - yes.
Not sure about Baines for Digne but maybe.

I'll see you in the dug-out tomorrow.

Steve Ferns
123 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:49:57
Hope so Paul. I'm surprised he had nothing to say.
Dave Abrahams
124 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:52:24
Jay (120),yes I expect Leighton to be in the squad, both him and Digne are left footed players so it would be risky playing one of them at right back, maybe using both of them on the left, or bring Baines on later in the game in midfield, his experience could come in useful at some stage of the game, especially if we were awarded a penalty.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

125 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:53:19
Darren's silence is disconcerting. Seriously!

He's not one to be rendered silent by the goings on at Everton.

Seriously hope he is OK.

Steve Ferns
126 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:54:06
I reckon Duncan goes for:

Pickford
Holgate Kean Mina Baines
Walcott Davies Ebbrell Digne
Calvert-Lewin Richarlison

Paul Tran
127 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:55:06
Yes Steve, he mentioned a 'setback' a year or so ago. Hope it hasn't come back.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

128 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:55:35
TYPO ALERT STEVE!!!

EBRELL???

Steve Ferns
129 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:57:06
It was a joke Jay! We've no midfielders left and Ferguson hates Schneiderlin and surely Ebbrell can do more than Sigurdsson did against Liverpool? It's not as if he can draft in Baningime (injured). Unless Ebbrell convinces him to go for Onyango!
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

130 Posted 06/12/2019 at 15:58:07
Oh you wicked wag you, Steve!
Mark Guglielmo
131 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:00:06
I know I write a lot of lengthy posts and no one reads them so I'll be quick: Mina is extremely doubtful.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

132 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:00:41
Maybe Duncan has seen a cone in training he wants to promote to the heart of Everton's midfield...?
Phil Smith
133 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:01:23
Jay Wood (89), I think you've nailed it on the head there. He's been offered lower league jobs but he loves his job where he is. He's a very down to earth guy in his ideal job. Why would he want to leave? He's perfectly happy at the level he's at.
Steve Ferns
134 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:01:54
Is that Cone called Gylfi?

Mark, thought it was doubtful, but maybe Ferguson is playing the old Moyes mind games? We used to always have about 7 doubtful and they'd all play.

Eric Paul
135 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:04:45
Since when has Duncan Ferguson been an alcoholic
John Kavanagh
136 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:05:06
Jay @132. The cone will do fine by me rather than Schneiderlin. At least it might get in the way of the Chelsea forwards.
Mark Guglielmo
137 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:07:49
I can't say, Steve. You're aware I wasn't here for the Moyes era, I'm just suggesting that folks should temper their starting XI expectations (with 6 more matches coming up in the next 24 days no less).
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

138 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:08:32
Steve @ 134, John @ 136.

I'll just set the cones up, you fellas can knock 'em down.

I thenk yew!

Peter Neilson
139 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:11:36
Jay (109) only rumour but I was told by two people at the derby that Unsworth told the club he wasn’t interested in the temp role this time and that he’s leaving at the end of the season. Wouldn’t blame him re. former and we will see in time re. the latter.
Jerome Shields
140 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:11:47

Good luck Duncan
Christy Ring
141 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:12:04
Wishing Dunc a great start tomorrow, always a hero of mine, had a drink with him, years ago in the players lounge, on his day unplayable, but few and far between. We'll certainly have passion tomorrow, but no dogs of war in midfield, we don't have a Parkinson or as Steve cheekily said an Ebbrell, who will be in the dugout. If Beningime is fit, I'd play him beside Davies, drop Siggy, and DCL and Kean together upfront.
John Kavanagh
142 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:18:18
Anyone know who the ref and fourth officials are tomorrow? They might now think twice about giving any more dodgy decisions against us knowing who will be wanting to have a quiet word with them.

I want to mail them my favourite vid and pic of Duncan sharing his opinions with his old mate Stefan Freund with Jimmy Bullard wetting himself in terror. Might concentrate their minds a bit.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

143 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:20:15
Interesting Peter @ 139, if true.

Good for him and good luck to him should he leave at the end of the season.

He can leave by the front door and his head held a lot higher than many that slunk off through the back door down the years.

Mark Guglielmo
144 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:32:22
John @142 Craig Pawson is the game ref. Don't know the others.
Ed Prytherch
145 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:38:48
When Koeman was manager he let Duncan take first team training and then Sam was seen talking to him a lot during games so they were obviously close but I saw no evidence that Silva was close to him. I doubt that he wanted Duncan but Kenwright included him in the deal. Now Silva's clique has gone and Dunc is the man, at least until a permanent manager is appointed. I wonder if Duncan will be part of that deal too.
Christy Ring
146 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:41:26
Jay@143 If I'm not mistaken, Martinez was told he was out of work, and he brought him to the club to work with the youth setup.
David Pearl
147 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:42:57
Confidence is a huge thing at this level. Look at Leicester right now, or Man U when Ole took over. So who knows, Duncan might get them going. Perhaps not too many surprises. What would also be a surprise is if we can go 5 posts without slagging off the players and support the team. The whole team. And nothing but the team. But not the pies. That goes without saying. I don’t want to see any holes tomorrow. Nice and compact, move as a team, concentrate, and pass and move with a bit of freedom. I really don’t want to see Richarlison on the wing either. Other than that, coyb. It’s my last game for 3 months.
Ed Prytherch
148 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:44:16
Big Nev tweeted a while ago that Duncan should be caretaker manager when Silva was sacked and today Leon Osman has made a positive comment. The negative comments are coming from folks who don't know him.
Steve Ferns
149 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:45:16
Christy, Moyes let him back in to work for free to get his badges, and then Martinez promoted him to the first team during his time. Remember Roberto tried to ingrain himself in "fabric of Everton" or something like that. He put all the pictures of the legends back around Finch Farm too.
Steve Ferns
150 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:47:00
You deserve a cracking send off David, I hope you get it. And good luck for the next 3 months, I hope you come back to a better team at Goodison Park you can be proud of.
Ed Prytherch
151 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:48:32
David, success breeds confidence and confidence breeds success but success must come first. That must come initially from hard work and determination. We have to break into the virtuous cycle.Having an inspirational coach is a big help.
Paul Cherrington
152 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:49:33
I'm very excited to see Big Dunc in charge, even if only for a game or two. A true blue who actually understands the club and what it all means to us fans. He will certainly put some fire and passion back into our game, I think – even if that is just what he gets up to on the touchline!

Re team selection for this game, it is a tricky one. As is plainly clear to everyone, we have no decent central midfield or even central defensive options. I wouldn't let shirkers like Iwobi or Sigurdsson anywhere near the team. they are classic examples of players who have got us where we are with their half-hearted approach. I agree that a 4-4-2 is needed with a more direct style. Get Calvert-Lewin in to win headers and Keane to worry them in behind with his pace. They won't know whether to drop off or push up.

For the two in the middle of the park, I am a bit stuck at the minute. Davies would have to be one although I am not overly convinced by him but not sure who would partner him. I can't see it being Schneiderlin after Big Dunc falling out with him in training one time a while back. I would be tempted to get one of the young lads in with plenty of energy, a good engine and who likes a tackle. Just tell him to get stuck in and put himself about.

To stop us getting outnumbered in the middle, I would tell Keane to drop off into midfield when we haven't got the ball, like Cahill used to do.

Central defence is tough too. I'm not convinced by Mina or Keane who look slow and full of errors. I would probably go with Holgate and Keane unless one of the young lads is ready to step up in place of Keane. The only worry there is lack of experience but then experience hasn't done a lot for us so far this season!

Rob Dolby
153 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:54:58
Dunc isn't exactly spoilt for choice with his selection.
451 for me when off the ball and 433 when on it.

We had some joy with man marking jorghino last year.

Pickford
Sidebe
Keane
Mina
Digne
Richarleson
Schneiderlin
Davies
Bernard
Kean
DCL

Iwobi and Sigurdsson need to be dropped.

Steve Ferns
154 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:54:59
David and Ed, momentum is everything in football. Which is why Silva had to go, once you get into a nose dive, it's almost impossible to get out of it without pressing the manager's ejector seat. By flipping the crowd from being against the players and the manager to being with them, easing the pressure on the players, you can often see a dramatic turnaround in fortunes, which is what some call "the new manager bounce". It's more evident with teams like Everton where there is actually decent players and they are cracking under the strain of pressure and without it, they can actually compete and win games. Solksjaer has ridden that all the way to the job permanently.
John Kavanagh
155 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:56:03
Mark @144. Thanks. Sent off Richy at Wolves and Gueye for two yellows vs Arsenal, but still isn't one of the worst clowns officiating in the Prem.
Ed Prytherch
156 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:58:07
And Freddie Ljundberg is still trying to find it.Silva found the new manager boost at Hull and Watford but he could not maintain it. I was surprised and happy when he turned it around last season but whatever it was that he had then had deserted him by the start of this season.
John P McFarlane
157 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:59:14
Thought I'd share this piece from a while ago, if the Big Man could somehow transfer his passion to the players and if he has the tactical nous that's required in the Premier League, I for one wouldn't be adverse to him being the boss until the end of the season - we could do a lot worse.

7 May 2015 Liverpool Echo
By Greg O’Keeffe
Everton coach Duncan Ferguson's nine best quotes

1. “The fans here have always been great towards me. They are unbelievable. They took me in and they are the best fans in the country, if not the world.” Ferguson

2. “Duncan had immense ability. And here he was, at a club where the striker has been revered since Dixie Dean, and before. They love their No9s. Alternatively, they can be incredibly hard if you don’t fit the bill. Unlike a lot of gangly boys, Duncan could jump. He could jump, all right.” Joe Royle on Ferguson

3. “It was the best 10 years of my career, in fact they are the only team I ever actually played for. That’s what happens when you play for Everton, you forget the rest, the rest means nothing.” – Ferguson

4. “I began to appreciate how he earned his reputation as a hard man. It was a nice punch, I have to say.” – Paul Scharner after being punched by Ferguson.

5. "This club has been a big part of my life and this city has been a big part of my life. I met my wife here and my three kids were born here." Ferguson

6. On retirement: "I miss the place, I miss the football and I miss the derbies. You are a long time retired, I have been retired for five years and it feels like 25. So to the players that are here now, stay in football as long as you can and stay at this club as long as you can because there is only one way after leaving this club, and that is down." Ferguson

7. On Blues legend Dave Hickson: “Dave was a lovely man and it’s very, very sad that he’s no longer with us. I used to see him all the time at Goodison and he was one of those people who always had a smile on his face. He just loved Everton and he loved coming to the game.” Ferguson

8. On his infamous scrapes: "Hand on heart, I never started anything, never once. That’s the truth. I finished a few.” Ferguson

9. On one day managing his beloved Everton: "I think everyone dreams of being Everton manager, don’t they. Don’t you? Everyone has dreams, but it’s not something I’m anywhere near.

"We’ve got a top-drawer manager[Roberto], outstanding, and I’m learning from him every day. I just want to be the best coach I can be. I’m working hard at it.” Ferguson

Jim Baker
158 Posted 06/12/2019 at 16:59:33
Jim # 12, I'm sure you meant bust a gut but your version sounds good to me.
John Keating
159 Posted 06/12/2019 at 17:11:15
I'm sure the crowd tomorrow are fully aware on the hand Ferguson has been dealt.
I have no doubt, regardless of the result, as long as the team give 100% and fight for the shirt - for a change - they will get a great reception and support.

In a way it's a great pity Ferguson has such a short time with them before the match. Still if they can't get up for this after such a shite week, they never will.

Nick White
160 Posted 06/12/2019 at 17:15:32
Best luck tomorrow Big Dunc! Goodison will be up for it! Tough game though.

He has said he expects a top manager to come in, let’s hope so.

Total guess but I see him going for a 4-5-1 or 4-4-1-1.

COYB!

Also a nice parting statement from Silva. Shame it didn’t work out for him and us!

Mark Guglielmo
161 Posted 06/12/2019 at 17:31:25
Rob @153 I'll just continue to politely remind everyone who puts Mina in their projected XI that he is "extremely doubtful." And then pray he's fit, of course.

I know he's proven to be very polarizing, but why drop Iwobi? Is it because he makes the errant pass on occasion, or fails to dribble past a defender? Just guessing on those 2 because they seem to be the oft-repeated complaints on his play. If so, well, that's going to happen when you're moving around a lot and trying to make things happen. It's very easy to have "safe" error-free looking play when you play safe, doing nothing.

It's become fairly apparent that advanced metrics & statistics around what actually happens during matches either aren't trusted or simply not cared about, but in the event that you do, Iwobi's are strong comparatively to the rest of the team.

Areas where he's very good:
* He's 3rd in key passes (ones that create what are known as big chances, i.e. should be scored by the recipient)
* 1st in through balls
* 6th in pass completion % (82), but 1st overall for attacking midfielders/forwards, BUT only 13th in passes per game, so really, he should be passing MORE
* 4th in passes that led to shots on goal

Areas where he's ok/can improve:
* 3rd in dribbles / 7th in being dispossessed (at about a 2:1 ratio)
* 7th in bad touches per game (1-6 are all forwards or Coleman)
* 5th in shots per game (which IMO only illustrates how poor the entire team is playing)

Areas where he isn't very good:
- tackles
- pass interceptions
- putting shots on target
- converting quality chances (he's 3rd worst on the team)

If you put everything together, he's the 8th-best overall rated player on the team, so regardless of how you personally feel about him, he should be starting IMO. His ability to create outweighs the negatives, again IMO.

I probably just wasted my time compiling that lol

Jay Harris
162 Posted 06/12/2019 at 17:44:58
Duncan is not one for rocking the boat and with the injuries we don't have a lot to pick from but as regards Schneiderlin wasnt it him and Mirallas that Duncan sent home for not being interested in training so I don't thik Schneids will be a first choice.

I also believe he gets on well with DCL so expect him to lead the line.Its a worry that Mina is doubtful because Michael Kan has lost all confidence and has been marking shadows since he got battered for his last England performance.

I just hope that the team picked is up for it and the crowd get right behind them.

Denis Richardson
163 Posted 06/12/2019 at 17:47:37
Regardless of inexperience I hope DF gets a roaring welcome tomorrow and the players on the pitch put in 150% with the crowd behind them. These players are now playing for their careers at Everton and hopefully with Silva gone some of them can play their natural game.

I'm actually hopeful of a result tomorrow and can see us at least getting a draw and even a win. If GP is a bear pit the Chelsea side won't fancy it.

One game at a time - lets put the sorry Silva ear behind us and get a win. Not bothered about the new manager yet. Lets just get a result tomorrow and move on from there. Hopefully DF can put the fear into a few of them to pull their thumbs out.

John Kavanagh
164 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:07:43
Jay @162 Not sure whether it was Unsy or Duncan at the time, but as I recall the bust up was over the pair disrespecting a youngster who had been asked to lead training as part of his coaching course during Unsy's brief spell in charge, although the club did not publicly provide any details.

I remember posting at the time that both of them should have been booted out out of EFC immediately and put on the list, although Schneiderlin publicly denied doing anything wrong. He's hardly done anything right since either.

Bad apples and all that.

Paul A Smith
165 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:24:11
The owner will always want someone around they know with the clubs best interest at heart.

Lets face it they need a mole. That could be Ferguson Unsworth or anyone they feel like reffering too.

Ferguson isn't an angry player anymore so lets get out of the past and back someone trying to improve.

He worked with the forwards under Koeman and Lukaku had his best season over here. I remember he often pointed at Dunc when celebrating his goals and praising his training drills.

I couldn't care who kept him at the club but i'm glad he is here and the club isn't surrounded by coaches from overseas just doing a job.

Derek Knox
166 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:24:24
I appreciate we all have different opinions, and are entitled to them, but when we all, from time to time suggest an ideal team, which in reality, will never get the chance to do.

Why do people pick Schneiderlin? He is a disgrace, a shirker, a liability and stealer of a wage.

I can count on the tip of one finger how many half-decent performances he has produced in almost 3 years.

If you were in the trenches he would be the last one you would want to rely on.

Right I've got my tin hat on (as we are hypothetically in trench warfare) awaiting all the mortar fire and rubber chickens that may come my way in his pathetic defence.

Jason Wilkinson
167 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:31:09
Will Jordan Pickford start tomorrow?
Probably
Should he start tomorrow?
NO! Not for me.
We must be the only team in the league that will stick with a player no matter how poor his form is.
How many goals does he have to let in before we drop him?
Before you all start. Lossl might be worse. I don't know. If he is god help us.
Steve Ferns
168 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:34:11
Derek, could it be because Gbamin, Gomes, Delph and Baningime are all injured and there’s no one else to play alongside Tom Davies?
Paul A Smith
169 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:35:12
Jay 72 I think most of the Brazilians we see in the premiership are fantastic examples.

Richarlison is like a Tim Cahill for me..trying to improve all the time and winners mentality. His work rate is excellent and his passion is second to none.

I can't stand the rolling and yelling but I can see its a part of wanting to control the game as much as he can.

The Brazilians don't get enough praise for their work rate in my opinion and they all play positive. Even the holding midfielders and defenders in many cases.

Jason 167 someone above said Lossl is bang average. That makes him the same as Pickford but bigger.

Allan Board
170 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:39:58
Good Luck Big Man for tomorrow!! I appreciate what some are saying about modern player's attitudes toward being dropped etc, but the point is that would you be prepared to put yourself in the firing line of a pissed off Duncan in the 1st place?
These are just little boys in comparison, they would shit themselves!
Fear is a brilliant form of discipline, just enough to make you think twice is perfect.
Perhaps a bit of old school is overdue at Everton. Is the way Klopp behaves all modern and with it then? Is it fuck! Did you see him slaughtering his defender's after our 2nd goal the other night? Do it his way or you get it, he doesn't give a shit who you are.
I prefer plain speaking and discipline to this modern shit any day.
All the best managers turn into erupting volcanoes when player's fail to do it right. It's called having high standards and self respect, which they ingrain into their player's heads.
Modern player's can have all the money in the world, but a loser is stiil disregarded, and a winner praised and respected.
Anyways, its not like this group of players deserve any niceties is it?
For all his faults, Dunc still created some of the most uplifting, joyous, funny, crazy and brilliant moments for us Evertonians in times of adversity.
I wish him well for tomorrow, and a good bollucking from the sidelines to this lot would be great too!
David Pearl
171 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:43:48
Steve 150

Thanks mate, much appreciated.

Ed, agreed. Let’s hope the passion comes from the manager and fans into those millionaire players of ours.

Derek,

If you go and watch him live he does move, he does pass if it’s on, he does switch play, he does make blocks. However no confidence and no movement leads to simple sideways and backwards passing. He is more than capable.

Anyway I don’t think anyone has to worry. I’d be surprised if he plays. However... how many fit midfielders do we have again? If he plays it’s normally behind his midfield partner which creates a massive gap in midfield because Siggy is trying to stay close to the striker. If he plays it should be in a diamond formation. For we should build our team around him

I did my bit... (mwuhahahahah).

Paul A Smith
172 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:48:02
Me too Alan. My cousin is doing his badges and was telling me how these young coaches show their tactics on an ipad like its cool and more realistic.

Its a load of shite. He produced his examples on paper during a presentation and was quicker an more clear than the champ manager generation.

He obviously felt proud about that but told me these modern day guru type are over complicating and trending.

I remember Martinez assistant time and time again taking ages to go through his ipad while a sub was coming on.

Man management is the key. Klopp has it to a tee. Listen to ex players and even some today will tell you its the man management that counts most.

Souness said no manager ever made him a better player.. something I agree with and think its fantasy stuff.

Kristian Boyce
173 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:48:50
I'm just surprized to hear him talk during the press conference. For most of his playing career he had that self-imposed media ban and never spoke.
Steve Ferns
174 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:50:50
Kristian, it always irked me that as soon as he went to Newcastle he spoke to the press and then when he came back, radio silence again. Did he have a problem with the echo or something?
Neil Lawson
175 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:51:45
Paul 169. The comments were made in response to my suggestion that Pickford should nurse his ego on the bench. Glad you appear to agree. Lossless cannot be any less effective. He may even catch a cross.
David Pearl
176 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:53:09
Paul A.
Good point, maybe Richarlison is our new Cahill. He’s getting better, l like his attitude (without the rolling). He needs a few more around him. Can’t wait for Kean to find his feet. There’s one... we will see him better next season. Maybe it will take another midfield signing and the likes of Gordon to join them. We also need a leader at the back l think.
Paul A Smith
177 Posted 06/12/2019 at 18:57:03
Yes I agree David and maybe Dunc can man manage Mina or Keane into taking more of a leaders role on?

We could do with a ruthless player in each position through the middle right now to be honest. And get the clown out of the goal next season.


I do agree Neil 175, he is a liabilty mate.

Derek Knox
178 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:07:07
Steve F, you are probably right as to why, but I think we would be better with ten men than having him in the side. Give the lads a chance, they surely have to be better and more reliable than him. Denis Adeniran, Beni, etc, no real excuse!

Okay they may be a bit 'Rabbit in the Headlights' at first, and possibly make a mistake or two, which they will learn from, but they will try and give a lot more than Crabman.

Neil Lawson
179 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:09:31
Just spotted that autocorrect changed Lossl to Lossless. So he has to play now. It's written in the algorithms.
David Pearl
180 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:13:10
Derek, In all fairness Lampard has introduced a number of young players to their first team this season. Perhaps with more experience than our youngsters have. They’ve grown into the team. Maybe now their transfer ban has been lifted it will have an adverse effect for them.
Mark Guglielmo
181 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:18:59
Neil LOL! I just attributed to you being clever and silently clapped in your general direction.
Dave Williams
182 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:23:11
Derek #178 couldn’t agree more. The selection will be fascinating because none of us knows what sort of player Duncan like or what style of football he goes for.
In his shoes I would be looking for a team which will play with pride and passion and not hold back. This would rule out the slow S men in midfield and as you suggest open the door for either Beni ( if fit) or Adeniran to play alongside Tom ( who would be my skipper) with Iwobi at number ten.
Front three would all be real triers - Kean, DCL and Bernard and my defence Sidibe( not his fault he was so exposed against RS) Mina, Gibson and Baines. Digne has not been the same player this season and if we play a couple of young lads Baines experience could be crucial.
The atmosphere will be electric and the crowd has a crucial role to play. Professionals or not a noisy and hostile crowd against you can intimidate, and for you will encourage not to mention affecting the referee.
It will be interesting to witness an unrestrained Duncan on the touchline and to see how he approaches anyone who is not giving maximum effort.
It is a very difficult game but if he can motivate and galvanise our players then we are in with a shout.
Craig Walker
183 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:27:54
Didn’t Duncan send Schneiderlin and Mirallas home from training because of a poor attitude a while back?
Steve Ferns
184 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:30:51
Dave, Beni Baningime is not fit and Denis Adeniniran is appearing as a right midfielder these days. The u23s have used 16 year old Tyler Onyango and Einar Iversen (who just recovered from injury) lately. There's no one in the u23s to come in, sorry.
Mark Guglielmo
185 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:37:40
Guys, Mina is doub....oh fuck it.
Steve Ferns
186 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:38:57
Mark, don't worry if he can't play, we'll just go with Zouma.
Derek Knox
187 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:39:27
Craig @ 183, I have little doubt that Duncan was there, but it was when Unsworth was given the reins and the 'incident concerning Mirallas and Schneiderlin occurred' so he is well aware of it I'm pretty sure.

Mirallas has been shipped but Crabturd is still there!

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

188 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:42:34
Christy @ 146.

I think you're mixing up Rhino with Big Dunc.

Unsworth was well established as a coach before being recruited as Alan Stubbs assistant with Everton's U-21s. He even had a couple of spells as caretaker manager at one of them, PNE. He was also at Sheffield United and a course tutor at Scotland's highly regarded coaching centre.

When Stubbs took on the manager's job with Hibernian, Rhino stepped up to Alan's vacated position he has since held for 5 years.

Ferguson's coaching time at Everton predates Unsworth by a few years.

First as an unpaid volunteer working with youth players, including alongside Sheedy, before Martinez surprisingly invited him to coach with the first team.

Astonishingly, that was almost 6 years ago already.

Tomorrow it will be interesting to see literally Duncan Ferguson 2019 can bring to the game.

Craig Walker
189 Posted 06/12/2019 at 19:53:24
Derek @187 I just Googled it. They were sent home but it was Dunc who wasn’t impressed with their attitude. Koeman was the manager.
Derek Knox
190 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:02:51
Steve F, @ 186, brilliant strategy there, Zouma has two OG's, falls right down Lampard's wanted list, can't wait to get shut in the January window for a song, or the £12M they paid for him.

I'll have a bit of that, and oh almost forgot we win the 3-2!

Nurse, "do I have to go back to the Centre? I was enjoying my time on TW". "Your medication is well overdue" she replies, "and you know how delirious it makes you, being off it". 🥼💙😋

Mark Guglielmo
191 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:08:37
Derek overdosed on his funny pills I see.

;-)

Steve, great shout. He might even been able to swap blue kits at half and no one will be any the wiser.

Frank Crewe
192 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:22:50
It will be interesting to see who he picks tomorrow. I wonder if Lossl might get the nod over Pickford. Give us a more physically dominating keeper than Pickford. I think Pickford needs to be taken out of the firing line for a game or two. Apparently Mina might not be fit. So

Lossl
Sidibe, Holgate, Keane, Digne.
Shneiderlin* or Gylfi*, Iwobi, Davies,
Richarlison, Kean, Bernard.

* No choice. Nobody else is fit.


Steavey Buckley
193 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:26:41
Everton have gone around in circles, the more managers the owner appoints and the more players the managers purchase, the worse Everton got. Tomorrow, Everton have a squad of players who are getting worse with every game. As for Duncan Ferguson, he has been with all the managers Everton have fired, so, he has been part of the problem not part of the solution so far.
Paul A Smith
194 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:45:15
https://www.footballfancast.com/premier-league/everton/evertons-marcel-brands-let-marco-silva-down-in-the-2019-summer-transfer-market

I can't believe someone actually had the balls to look into Brands role.

Mark Guglielmo
195 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:46:07
I've just been told by my moles at Finch Farm that Mina ran drills today! So looks like he's our keeper tomorrow.

(He really did do light training.)

Mark Guglielmo
196 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:47:39
Paul, have you looked into how FFP affects how we can spend? I didn't know, so I did some research. You may to check it out.
Jamie Crowley
197 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:48:48
I'm flying to Boston in 4.5 hours, back to the Crowley ancestral home for a long weekend.

It's 75 degrees here. I'm going to snow and 27 to 35 degrees.

Everton had best win tomorrow a.m. while I freeze my balls off in New England! Or my mood will be foul. And my wife is a gem, she doesn't deserve that. So c'mon Duncan, motivate and win.

Jamie Crowley
198 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:51:55
Oh, and, I'm not entirely sure of fitness, but if Coleman and Kean are fit, I think they'll both start.

I see Dunc making some changes. Coleman bleeds Blue, Dunc will want that. I also could see him playing Calvert-Lewin and Kean up top together in a 4-4-2.

Whatever the case, I think we're going to see a different look tomorrow.

Mark Guglielmo
199 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:56:14
Jamie I'll just attribute it to pre-flight stress levels affecting your brain. Coleman is out!

So here's who I think we'll see tomorrow.

Lossl
Coleman Mina Zouma Digne
Gbamin Delph Gomes
Walcott Tosun Richarlison

Derek Knox
200 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:56:45
Mark @ 195, you are becoming more like Dr Doolittle every day...………………………………………. wow, you talk to the moles? :-)
Jay Harris
201 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:57:12
I will be pleased if we can just keep a clean sheet and show that we CAN defend.
Kristian Boyce
202 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:57:58
Jamie, are you going down to the NBC Miami fan fest next weekend?
Mark Guglielmo
203 Posted 06/12/2019 at 20:58:24
Moles, rats, horses of courses, even that one zebra over there behind the water cooler. I loved that book!
Tony Twist
204 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:01:03
I predict a scruffy game and it has to be 4-4-2. Let Chelsea have more of the ball and take them on the break.

The team:

Pickford,
Sidibe, Holgate, Mina, Digne,
Gordon, Davies, Iwobi, Bernard,
Richarlison, Kean.

It is tough with all the injuries but we need to have speed in attack and I am sure Chelsea's defenders would rather face one forward than two.

Robert Tressell
205 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:02:41
I'd love to see Gbamin in the side but it's a few weeks yet isn't it? The big problem for Dunc and his successor is the one-paced midfield. I'm struggling to name a side without Schneiderlin, even though I cant stand him. Who else alongside Davies?

The fact people have suggested Baines, Adeniran, Baningime and Holgate shows how short we are. And Sigurdsson isn't the answer either.

Jamie Crowley
206 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:03:08
Kristian -

Didn't even know they were having it! Good place to have that in December, God knows.

I'm going to Boston this weekend, so the likelihood I jump in a car and do the 5 hour drive down I-95 in a week is slim-to-none friend. I think a couple of my boys are getting home from U of Alabama and Florida State as well next weekend.

You and I should defo meet up some time for a game in Orlando or some such thing, if you're game for it.

Cheers.

Robert Tressell
207 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:05:02
Realise the Gbamin reference was a joke. Unfortunately our other options in centre mid are a joke too...
Paul Birmingham
208 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:05:15
A new era, fresh hope, and let's hope Everton are up for it tomorrow.

GP at its finest atmosphere is as good as a goal, tomorrow the slide must be halted.

I'm hoping Lössl starts, as for me, Jordon is no longer consistent and there's been far more mistakes this season.

Also I hope Moise starts, keeps his cool and scores. The back four will hopefully play as a unit, and has learned from the RS game, the midfield is where the game will be won and the players selected will need to put a shift in.

Hopefully Dunc can inspire these players victory!

Jamie Crowley
209 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:06:40
I honestly had no clue Coleman was hurt. That's a shame as I think he's exactly they type of effort that's required for Big Dunc's first game.

Midfield options are very limited. Have they ever considered, I wonder, putting Baines in front of the back 4? I've seen a few folks throw that out there?

Peter Mills
210 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:07:43
It’s been a rough last few weeks, I’ve found it difficult to raise any enthusiasm about Everton.

It has been obvious that Silva was in his last days. He was left in post to take the team to Anfield, those in charge decided that was fair enough as they were paying him plenty of money. But the rest of us, those who don’t really matter, have had to endure the shameful embarrassment of that display and all the cretinous stick that has been floating around the city since.

But this afternoon I had a very pleasant surprise, a ‘phone call from across the pond from Mike Gaynes. Those who know Mike understand he has had to face a life-threatening illness, so he is very much aware that there are more important things than footy. At the same time, however, he knows that our team has a very important place in our lives, and he managed to stoke the embers and I’m now looking forward to the match.

It won’t be easy, the Lampard family has never done us any favours. But it will be an interesting watch, and I think Goodison will have a spark.

Colin Grierson
211 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:08:11
Come on Big Duncan, lad. Instill a bit of passion into this group.

If Moyes comes in, then I'll have nothing to do with the club until he, and whoever employs him, gets the fuck out of Dodge.
COYB!

Mark Guglielmo
212 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:10:50
Robert @207 did you miss that I had Zouma at CB, and Delph/Gomes in the midfield? LOL

Sorry, just taking the piss a bit.

Robert Tressell
213 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:14:02
I did miss that. Good team that by the way.
Mark Brennnan
214 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:25:14
I've heard Duncan Ferguson is injured for the game against Chelsea
Derek Knox
215 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:31:10
Peter @ 210, good post and sorry to hear your 'pleasant surprise, was not so pleasant' after all. As you know I have met you both at the TW Get-Together at the Midland, which was exactly a year ago today!

I was under the impression that after undergoing treatment, Mike had been given the 'all clear' and was again not only participating in Sports but also doing some refereeing too.

I know we shouldn't be talking about the reasons for Mike's noticed absence on TW, but I for one am genuinely concerned as he is a great guy. If you ever want to give me a ring or a text even, my number is 07565140075.

Mike is one of the TW Family, well we all are, but has been a part of it for so long, and is respected both for his humour, his detailed knowledge and impeccable records on all things Blue.

Peter, please, please, send my regards to Mike and I genuinely wish him some good news, and hopefully a speedy return to TW. 😥💙

Jamie Crowley
216 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:33:31
Derek -

I didn't read in Pete's post that there's anything wrong with Mike?

In fact, Mike posted earlier today on another thread, saying he was out yesterday for a bit, fired up TW, and 6 hours after the fact learned Silva had been sacked.

Steve Ferns
217 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:37:57
I hope Mike can clear it up and give us some reassurance. Meantime still waiting to hear from Darren Hinds.
Peter Mills
218 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:42:22
Derek#215, I apologise, I didn’t mean to create any alarm or confusion. Mike is in good fettle, his illness is hopefully all in the past.
Steve Ferns
219 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:43:23
Cheers Pete
Derek Knox
220 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:52:12
Peter, I genuinely surmised that he had some sort of relapse, so thankful for the update to clarify the status of Mike's Welfare, but I still standby everything I said before.

What a relief, I may even pour myself a libation, oh confounded again, I only have a few cans of lager, as I rarely drink in the house, not the same without company and a good chat!

Thanks again Peter!

Mike Gaynes
221 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:52:22
Hey DK, Jamie and Steve, no worries, I was just on with Pete today because his emails and posts were making me worried for his emotional state, so dire has his mood been the past few weeks. We both needed a bit of cheering up.

As for my health, be of good cheer, I remain in this gloriously extended remission and all is well. What has delayed my next trip over to visit you British Blues is that I'm having Achilles surgery next month (foolish slide tackle in a match), and since I don't fancy stumping around the Winslow and Goodison on crutches, I'll hold off on the trip until spring. Hopefully we'll be playing better by then.

DK, thanks for your number, I'll definitely surprise you one of these days.

Tony Hill
222 Posted 06/12/2019 at 21:56:10
Mike, sliding tackles at your age are a disgrace. Carry on. I'm delighted to hear that you are well. Pure gravy, as one of your compatriots once had it.
Mike Gaynes
223 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:02:19
Disgrace indeed, Tony, although I did win the ball!

Thanks all for your concern.

Brent Stephens
224 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:14:42
Mark #199 I like you're suggestion about having Zouma at CB tomorrow!
Steve Ferns
225 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:16:58
Brent, he stole it off #186, don't worry, he has been reported.
Mark Guglielmo
226 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:18:53
Steve nooooooo I don't want to go back to moderator jail!
Derek Knox
227 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:25:43
Jamie C, @ 216, I must have missed Mike's rare recent post, so apologies on my behalf for that.

TW and Everton Football Club has been such a Helter Skelter recently and I think most of us, are so dejected as the catastrophic series of (dis) appointments, ill advised and overly inflated purchases, of players who are (clearly to us anyway) not a good fit. Not all but a considerable number are.

Oddly enough I am sitting listening to one of my Favourite groups the Moody Blues, ( I am confessedly an old romantic) but the Album in question which I just put on in random fashion has such pertinent Tracks, which pertain to Everton and our current situation.

I won't list them all but here are a few:
Voices in the Sky. (Woo spooky)
Never Comes the Day (We get a fair result, Ref/VAR
Watching and Waiting ( managerial Appointment)
Dawning is the Day (Dunc's First match)
New Horizons (Self Explanatory hopefully)
Isn't Life Strange ( Tell Me About It!)
Blue Guitar (No Strings Attached ?)
Driftwood ( Most have been moved on)
Forever Autumn (When new Season starts and we're level with all the others)
Your Wildest Dreams (Europe/Top 4/6)
I know you're out There Somewhere (New Manager)
Nervous ( Nearly every game of late!)

Obviously I have added the bracketed words, The Moody Blues who were from Birmingham, may have supported their Blues, but not sure on that, but it just seemed so appropriate and as I said before it was a totally random selection.

Mike Gaynes
228 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:29:56
DK, you won't believe it but I was listening to Your Wildest Dreams as I read your post. Maybe that one will apply to our next manager, eh?

Of course, at this point we're all Moody Blues, aren't we?

Paul A Smith
229 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:32:00
Sidibe can have a good game if he can hold his position. He has all the attributes physically and not the worst player on the ball.
Brent Stephens
230 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:36:57
Mike no more Moody Blues after he agreed to Go Now.
Mike Gaynes
231 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:37:23
Good 'un, Brent.
David Midgley
232 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:49:54
Mike Gaynes, don't worry about it. Most of Everton's first team have been on crutches for months.
John Pierce
234 Posted 06/12/2019 at 22:57:02
It’s been mentioned on the TW forum in small dispatches that Everton are in serious trouble.

We are sleep walking towards relegation, dramatic much!? Well yes when you say it in a suspenseful kind of way.

However we are on the precipice of fighting for our lives, we have to repeat most of this current run of fixtures late in the season. Who ever we get, may well galvanize the club but can they get the squad to perform to more than the sum of its parts. So far a talented squad on paper has very little chemistry and very rarely has shown a propensity to give more than its individuals in moments of games.

It’s gonna be very tight and I’m genuinely concerned this year is might have put number on it.

Derek Knox
235 Posted 06/12/2019 at 23:09:03
Brent, good one mate, just think along the same lines, We could all be, "On The Threshold Of a Dream"!
Derek Knox
236 Posted 06/12/2019 at 00:02:52
Hey Mike G, don't want to get your hopes up too much, but another, coincidental connection with Duncan.

I was born in Dundee Scotland, as you may be well aware, and grew up not really having a direct affiliation to any particular Club, although I did have an attraction to both Hearts (Edinburgh) and of course Dundee United.

It was through Hearts, ironically that I became hooked, on Everton. Let me explain, Hearts then, had a player called Alex Young who, I identified as being my hero even at that young age.

I was lucky enough although very young, about 6/7 that my Dad although a Dundee supporter himself, he was from Glasgow (Airdrie) but chose to support Dundee after settling in a place called Newport-on-Tay (on the Fife side of Dundee).

He did either occasionally take me, or made sure someone took me to watch Hearts which then was a train journey of some 60 miles!

I got a few glimpses of my hero Alex Young at such a tender age and was hooked, almost straight away, not so much with Hearts, who I loosely had an interest in because of Alex.

Of course Alex joined Everton, and although we were lucky enough to have a black and white television, which my Dad had built from scratch, I was lucky again in being allowed to watch Alex playing for Everton.

Very rarely was it on Match of The Day then, but when it was I made sure I could watch it, that was me, and has been ever since. Which is (frighteningly) sixty years next year!

Anyway, my elder brother and his son are avid Dundee United Supporters, and were regular attendees. Being my local side, I always retained an interest in looking for their result on a Saturday.

Living in England, in both Navies (not at the same time) and marrying a Scouser, when in my new home, I could actually start going to the Matches, to again see Alex. It was almost heaven to me then, as all of her family were Blues!

You have probably aged considerably reading this, which unintentionally has turned in to a Saga, but I had to explain, and I'm still not finished yet!

Duncan started his career as a young lad with Dundee United, and I regularly received reports from my nephew, and my brother how good this guy was.

Although he was good, and I did get the opportunity on a visit to Scotland to watch him for Dundee United he was a very different player in comparison with Alex Young, and of course he too came to Everton.

Talk about degrees of separation, but it is a bizarre World we live in at times which throws up these coincidences, which I believe in some way are meant to happen!

Mike Gaynes
237 Posted 07/12/2019 at 00:30:06
DK, I enjoyed that history... and you're right, those things do sometimes seem to happen for a reason and steer our fates in a particular direction.

I envy you having seen Alex Young play, and at the start of his career no less. Those are magic memories for ya I'm sure.

Regarding Duncan, I've made no secret that I'm not an admirer, but I understand why you have a soft spot for him, and if he can make my getting out of bed at 4am tomorrow worth the effort, I will cheer him for sure.

Christy Ring
238 Posted 07/12/2019 at 00:35:20
Jay@188 Appreciate you're reply, but I think it was Rhino.
Jamie Crowley
239 Posted 07/12/2019 at 00:49:55
Sir John-

Delayed flight. At the bar (of course) getting prepared to fly out. De-icing and snow in Boston. Drinking heavily as I DETEST flying.

You’re spot on, friend. We are absolutely on the precipice of fighting for our lives. We are in a dire situation.

I’m hoping we come through the other side stronger.

Kieran Kinsella
240 Posted 07/12/2019 at 00:52:42
Derek Knox

Always liked you now it makes sense as my mum was born in Dundee too in your era. Can’t beat a good old Tayside accent.

Bill Gall
241 Posted 06/12/2019 at 01:01:45
Rob #91 Sorry I never got back to you any quicker but I was running late for an appointment and after that the wife decided to go Xmas shopping.. in reply to me only having ten men in my line up # 88. Before I rushed out I added another name to make 11 players #98 to see how many people noticed I had no keeper in the team. No one replied.

I do not think Duncan Ferguson will make to many changes tomorrow but I am sure all true blues supporters will support him. The team I think he may pick barring injuries is:

Pickford, Sidibe, Holgate, Mina, Digne, Davies, Schneiderlin, Iwobi, Richarlison, Kean, Bernard.

Pickford, like him or not, he is the best keeper we have at the club at this time. Schniederlin, both Davies and Iwobi like to go forward and we need a defensive midfielder. Chelsea have 2 tall defensive centre-halves so we need quick strikers keeping the ball on the ground. And their backs like to move up-field in attack, so we need our quick wingers to help defend.

Subs: Lössl Keane, Sigurdsson, Baines, Walcott, Clavert-Lewin. Gibson, Tosun

Brian Wilkinson
242 Posted 07/12/2019 at 01:15:56
Here's who I would give a run out if I selected a starting 11:

Pickford, Sidibe, Holgate, Gibson, Digne, Davies, Adeniran, Richarlison, Bernard, Kean, Calvert-Lewin.

Go for 4-4-2,

Derek Knox
243 Posted 07/12/2019 at 02:37:35
Kieran, thank you for those kind thoughts and words, just goes to show how small, the Large World we all have the privilege to live in, actually is.

There is an auld saying in Scotland "We're all Jock Thompson's Bairns" which roughly means, it doesn't matter what colour, what religion, whether you are rich or poor, we all have a right to exist on this planet, and treat others in a similar vein.

You've got me started, so I will finish, in true University Challenge fashion.

My National poet, Robert Burns, who I have loosely tried to live my own life by, said this in a much-ignored poem, well not so much a poem but a dirge: "Man's Inhumanity to Man made Countless Thousands Mourn".

Considering that was written nearly 250 years ago, how many wars and atrocities have there been in that time? Why does nobody, or very few learn from those, who have left messages, largely unheeded, in Poetry, Writing, Art and Music?

You know, Kieran, when I spent many hours at sea, I did not idle, or let them go to waste. I had quite a large Collection of Poetry, which I mostly learnt by heart, although my memory is not as collective as it was, I have still retained a good percentage.

One poem probably takes equal reverence next to Rabbies, and it was written over a thousand years ago by a Persian Astrologer whose name was Omar Khayyaam.

Depending on which version you obtained, it contained approximately 147 verses, all in the form of quatrains, and took the Translator many years to convert into English.

Being poetry, it doesn't take a Sherlock to appreciate that conversion from one language to another is not going to rhyme. He painstakingly learned Persian, and further set out to not alter its content but to keep its meaning in its fullest integrity.

I will not obviously quote them all, but will deliver three which I consider to be significant in the context of this current theme:

T'is a Chequerboard of Knights and Days
While Destiny with Men for Pieces plays
While hither and thither moves, and mates, and slays
Then one by one back in the Closet Lays

Strange is it Not of the Myriads who
Before us passed the Door of Darkness through
None have returned to tell us of that road
Which to discover, we must travel too

For in and out, above below
T'is nothing but a Magic Shadow Picture Show
Played around a box whose Candle is the Sun
Round which we phantom figures come and go!

The verses I have quoted were not consecutive, but I felt among many others were worthy of recall, as considering when they were written, still hold, to a degree, the poignancy today as they did then!

Goodnight and God Bless to all on TW!

Andy Walker
244 Posted 07/12/2019 at 06:57:42
So it’s big Duncs turn to pick a team from a squad made up mainly of not good enough kids, or past their best pros. The man that should have been sacked was Brands, in fact he never should have been hired. The DOF/coach model is failing but Mosh wrongly sticks to it. It’s his money to waste but our emotions to hurt.
Phil Sammon
245 Posted 07/12/2019 at 07:34:00
Andy 244

The rights and wrongs of the DoF model can be argued but I think you’re being very unfair on Brands. It’s not his fault the team can’t defend. It’s not his fault we can’t break teams down.

The team lacks organisation and commitment. Dunc might be able to inspire the latter, but the former is not something that can be fixed overnight. Our defence is a neglected shambles. It’s the simple tactics that need addressing far more urgently than anything else. That was Silva’s job and he had to go. Brands has nothing to do with it.

Anthony Newell
246 Posted 06/12/2019 at 07:35:17
@Jamie (209)

Bobby Brown shoes had Baines down as our future Philip Lahm, patrolling the area in front of the defence

Brent Stephens
247 Posted 07/12/2019 at 07:50:31
Derek #243 - this is what I love about TW. A guy posts, often, sometimes with wit, even if it is off topic, sometimes with passion about his team, sometimes with a reasoned argument about this or that. And then from left field we suddenly discover something else about the guy we never knew.

A phantom figure. Momentarily holding up a candle of his own.

David Greenwood
248 Posted 07/12/2019 at 07:53:43
Phil @245 I couldn't agree more.

It's not Brands fault that Marco never learned from his mistakes, was tactically hopeless, no organisation, no motivation, stubborn and so on.

Where Brands could be criticised is for taking too long to bin Marco.

Danny Baily
249 Posted 07/12/2019 at 08:24:47
Brands should go and his role should be abolished.

Ever since we instated a DoF we've had unbalanced squads filled with expensive misfits.

Let the new manager manage the squad.

But this is tomorrow's argument, let's all get behind Big Dunc today! Three points, especially against Chelsea, would completely change the outlook for the season.

Karl Masters
250 Posted 07/12/2019 at 08:28:43
Mike Oates asks why Unsworth‘s not got the job. By some accounts, Mike, he’s too busy at the moment
Colin Glassar
251 Posted 07/12/2019 at 08:44:33
Will Waldorf and Statler be in the director’s box today, looking as gormless and clueless as they usually do?
Richard Mason
252 Posted 07/12/2019 at 08:51:36
I can't blame Brands, he scout's the player, and before he signs them he discusses if they will be a fit for his squad.

Fair enough ,he missed out on a centre-back and another attacker. I can't help but feel he thought players from U23 would be stepping up as well.

Amit Vithlani
253 Posted 07/12/2019 at 09:41:24
Match going blues. I really wish I could be there with you.

I'd love to be there to see the Old Lady back to her growling, menacing, aggressive self.

One of her favourite sons is in charge today. I am absolutely certain she will respond.

Good luck to all blues!

Neil Carter
254 Posted 07/12/2019 at 09:44:50
Expect the worst, hope for something better. That's as good as it gets nowadays as a long suffering Evertonian. Just give us something vaguely positive to hope for. COYB🤞🏼
George McKane
255 Posted 07/12/2019 at 09:52:38
Well here we are again – All good friends and Jolly Good Company.


It’s now 9.03 and I will be leaving quite soon for The Dark House to meet up with the whole mad gang - - we have always said ”no matter what we will be here next game” and so the Show goes on.

Just listened to the news - - grey clouds but a dry day - - no Rain on Duncan”s Parade then an looked out of the window over to The City and news travels fast, there is a massive Liner “parked up” outside The Liver Buildings - - Moshiri’s New Travel arrangements or maybe New Brighton Blues going up market.

Going to be an interesting day, I guess. I would imagine that most Blues will be up for this today with the best short term solution that they could hope for after Wednesday Night - - in a bit of a rush this morning - - but just listening to - - and getting myself ready - - Something In The Air:

“Call out the instigators
Because there's something in the air
We've got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution's here, and you know it's right
And you know that it's right
We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together now
Lock up the streets and houses
Because there's something in the air
We've got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution's here, and you know it's right
And you know that it's right
We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together now”

Sometime soon we have got to get it right but while Nero fiddles, I, certainly, will not allow Rome To Burn - - today is the time for commitment and togetherness - - for patience and positivity - - for strength and belief - - I appeal to some posters on the Liver Forum to give up the negativity and (sometimes unpleasant and nasty) destructive personal comments - - of course they do not affect the game or the players or the management but they create and really negative vibe - - so come on let’s create a whole “posso waves” day and send them out on the astral and into the coming Blue Sky:

“You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be
All right, all right, all right
You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can
But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be
All right, all right, all right”

Love this song of The Beatles - - play it in my car at Maximum Volume - - Love when Lennon screams “All right” at the end.

For me I cannot figure the point of adding to the worlds negativity - - that does not mean I accept any old shite - - I am a strong, outspoken, proactive --- but if I didn’t seriously like what I was doing or certainly spending my money on I would either pack it in - - or change it or try and stick with whoever and whatever it was through tough times - - I have been in the sewers - - I can tell you that - - but I have also been to Heaven:

“But the fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning 'round, oh oh oh, 'round 'round 'round 'round
He never listens to them
He knows that they're the fools
They don't like him
The fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning 'round
Oh, 'round 'round 'round 'round, oh”

So here I am running a bit late - - in my dressing gown from Hard day’s Night Hotel - - got my bag ready with my camera and moth organ - - but I personally am no Lover of “Big Dunc’ but I am 100,000% behind him today and every day that he shows such a commitment to The Blues and I do know that he is a truly generous and big hearted man and always has time for Blue’s Fans - - so I am with you today and I might even say “Big Dunc” - - something I have never said before - - so I am off soon - - but as always filling myself with joy and energy and posso waves - - so I need a bit of Van to fill my soul and spirit:

“And I Will Stroll The Merry Way
And Jump The Hedges First
And I Will Drink The Clear
Clean Water For To Quench My Thirst
And I Shall Watch The Ferry-Boats
And They'll Get High
On A Bluer Ocean
Against Tomorrow's Sky
And I Will Never Grow So Old Again
And I Will Walk And Talk
In Gardens All Wet With Rain
Oh Sweet Thing, Sweet Thing
My, My, My, My, My Sweet Thing
And I Shall Drive My Chariot
Down Your Streets And Cry
'Hey, It's Me, I'm Dynamite
And I Don't Know Why'
And You Shall Take Me Strongly
In Your Arms Again
And I Will Not Remember
That I Even Felt The Pain.
We Shall Walk And Talk
In Gardens All Misty And Wet With Rain
And I Will Never, Never, Never
Grow So Old Again.
Oh Sweet Thing, Sweet Thing
My, My, My, My, My Sweet Thing
And I Will Raise My Hand Up
Into The Night Time Sky
And Count The Stars
That's Shining In Your Eye
Just To Dig It All An' Not To Wonder
That's Just Fine
And I'll Be Satisfied
Not To Read In Between The Lines
And I Will Walk And Talk
In Gardens All Wet With Rain
And I Will Never, Ever, Ever, Ever
Grow So Old Again.”


I just wonder sometimes how Van, Mr.Lennon and other great poets and artists just somehow know how we feel and can lift us and move us - - - just like Everton can and hopefully will do today - - music and poetry and football has the power to heal - - I truly believe that:
“And the music on the radio, and the music on the radio
Has so much soul, has so much soul
And you listen, in the night time
While we're still and quiet
And you look out on the water
And the big ships, and the big boats
Came on sailing by, by, by, by
And you felt so good, and I felt so good
I felt I want to blow my harmonica”

I guess some of you think I am a bit mad - - but now - - right now - - I am picking up my harmonica and I am sitting in my writing room in New Brighton and I am going to blow some notes for all you Blues - - here we go - - close your eyes and open your hearts and I guarantee you will hear it:

“When I understood the light, when I understood the light
In the golden afternoon, in the golden afternoon
In the golden afternoon, in the golden afternoon
In the golden afternoon when we sat and listened to Sonny Boy blow”

Everything is so good and so right:

“In the eternal moment, in the eternal moment
In the eternal moment, in the eternal moment
When you lived, when you lived
When you lived, in the light”

For my 70th Birthday I got a Holy Trinity Tee Shirt - - I do not normally wear football shirts or such - - but today I am going to wear it - - - Today is a Day To Be A True Blue - - It’s a Bluetiful Day - - Maybe - - Just Maybe - - Today is The Day.

I send cosmic grooves out over the Blue Skies to All Blues everywhere - - Remember It’s Great To Be an Evertonian.

With a firm handshake - - Vincent Van George.

Derek Knox
256 Posted 07/12/2019 at 09:55:07
Neil, I genuinely believe we will see a better organised and almost unrecognisable team to what we have seen under Silva. I am not suggesting for one moment that some sort of magical transformation will have happened overnight, but I believe we will see most of our players with a different mindset.
Derek Knox
257 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:03:10
George, good vibes about today too, uplifted by your post as always, but today feels different somehow, enjoy the day, and your usual bet would be the boost we need, if it happens.
Paul Birmingham
258 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:06:15
Kieran@117, - laureate! I’m sure that Dunc will have got into the players heads the importance of this game and what’s at stake.

Let’s hope today’s a good day for Evertonians!

Ray Roche
259 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:09:13
I wonder what the atmosphere will be like if Ferguson makes NO changes and names a basically unchanged side? I mean, he can’t just magic a couple of world class defenders and strikers out of a Top Hat, can he?
It’ll be interesting, to say the least.
Anyone heard from Darren? I hope the lads alright, not like him to remain silent during a momentous week.
Joe Edwards
260 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:13:50
I hope we win today and give the Big man a day to remember. 👍
Steve Ferns
261 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:20:57
Ray, the atmosphere will be electric. The players are free of the pressure and the strain. He can make zero changes and we’ll see a big difference. Sure if they then play shit it’ll all creep back, but it’s up to them. The crowd will be 100% with them, and this should be enough to get us the points.
Howard Don
262 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:22:08
Derek Knox, I too remember, as a kid, when Alex Young arrived. It was a double transfer in that we also bought a full-back by the name of George Thompson.

Many wonderful memories of St Alex of the blistered feet. Best one was a 2-2 draw against United when he scored a sublime header at Gwladys Street end when he seemed to hang in the air forever. Happy days... we were true giants of the English game then.

Mike Allison
263 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:24:28
Ray, team selection was rarely Silva’s problem, it was the lack of motivation, belief, desire, confidence and even luck that made the team shite. Week after week they’ve gone out and become less than the sum of their parts. That’s why a manager gets sacked, not because the players aren’t good enough.

I’d be perfectly happy with the same line up (although what would that mean as we’ve chopped and changed so much this season?) as long as they players look like they (a) care, and (b) believe. We’ve seen them do it in the odd game here and there, but then there’d be five in between where they didn’t.

If I’d expect one strength from Ferguson it’d be spirit.

Brian Harrison
264 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:28:23
Well with only 1 training session in charge it would be unrealistic to expect to much. But I am sure that Ferguson will be demanding a passionate display from everybody involved, thats all we can ask for after having so little time to work with these players. Ferguson said there is a doubt about Mina, so it looks like Holgate and Keane, I just hope Keane plays more like his form at the back end of last season rather than his performances this season.

But what Ferguson can be guaranteed is the backing of the 40,000 Evertonians, so lets hope with increased effort from the players and 100% backing from the fans we can get a much needed win today.

Ciarán McGlone
265 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:34:12
I'd disagree Mike.. team selection, and by association - formation, was very much part of Silvas problem.

Persisting with players in poor form; playing certain players together; playing players out of position - all very much part of the DNA of Silva and why he failed.

Ray Roche
266 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:36:43
Steve, Mike, I hope you're right and that the crowd can become the 12th man. As long as we are patient, a rousing pre-match speech can only get you so far. Set up, tactics etc, let's hope Duncan gets it right.

Right, I'm off to the match!

COYB!

Ciarán McGlone
267 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:38:26
ps: I expect Duncan to start Kean... it's clear this kid has something special. And hopefully as the striking coach Duncan realises that. I'd be happy to see Calvert-Lewin on with him as I think they'd compliment each other perfectly.
Lee Brownlie
268 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:39:52
'Calvert-Lewin, a striker in his own [Big Dunc's] mold'.. Er, what???

I really don't remember Duncan Ferguson as a "one goal in a blue moon, and most of the rest of the time just kind of being a very slight 'nuisance' on the edge of the box" type of centre-forward!!!

Steve Ferns
269 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:43:31
Ray, the players have played scared football. All of them. They should feel that weight of fear gone and replaced with total support. Motivation has been an issue and they can’t possibly be any more motivated today.

In times like this, tactics and game plans don’t mean as much. Sure effort and commitment can only take you so far, but this is the time when it’s the only thing that matters.

Paul Setter
270 Posted 07/12/2019 at 10:51:26
I wouldn't be overly surprised to see an old fashioned 4-4-2 today of which I think we have players to suit that system. Kean and Calvert-Lewin up top.
James Hughes
271 Posted 07/12/2019 at 11:01:33
I just hope Duncan Ferguson has been working on defending corners and how to stop a simple ball over the top resulting in a goal or five.

Here's to three points and a rowdy crowd.

Derek Thomas
272 Posted 07/12/2019 at 11:12:48
Happy birthday George and well in with those posso waves, I knew you wouldn't let us down.

I think there will be one or even two 'statement' selection decisions and we'll win this.

Derek Knox
273 Posted 07/12/2019 at 11:30:43
Hi Dt, how's things mate? Yes I think and hope today will be the dawn, of a much needed change, team selection will not only be interesting, but as you say there could be a statement of intention made too. Have you been affected by the Fires down under?

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