Premier League — Week 7

Lundstram should've scored

Chelsea looking good against an admittedly poor Burnley side.

Anyone fancy “Dour Davie” to finally break his duck at Anfield?

Praying for it Tony.

Would be nice if the Hammers could get something but their record at Anfield has been abyssmal for many years so I am not expecting anything less than an easy RS win – especially as they know they can leapfrog us to go top by playing ahead of us.

West Ham have one win in 50 years at Mordor.

Come on Irons.

If we relying on the likes of Sigurdsson, Gomes and Iwobi then normal service will be resumed until January when hopefully we can phase these losers out and add a better mentality to the squad.

Rs one down!

GET IN!!

Two after today Rob.

🎶🎵He's got grey hair and we don't care, Davey, Davey Moyes”🎵🎵😁

They seem to be vulnerable at centre-back this season.

Is that a Dave Crotchet, Ray?

Kevin, I don't understand why Van Dijk isn't playing?

Clever, Brent, clever 👍🏻
When I was a kid me Mam made a Davey Crockett hat. This coincided with the mysterious disappearance of next doors cat and a faint smell of cat urine on my head strange.

Can't help Rob, there's been nothing on tv.

The cat was dead I assume.

No doubt every goal they concede will be our fault.

I think so Brent. Funny, the larder was full that week.

Maybe we can have a Davey Crockett ‘pun' live forum tomorrow if the game's crap.

What a fucking dive by Salah

Fecking Salah going down so easily.

Soft penalty again. Cheating bastards.

Unbelievable Brent. It's the way the arms and legs go in different directions. He went down like a cowboy in those western when they arch their bodies backwards before falling forward. Cheating bastard.

I'm a bit surprised VAR didn't look at that a bit more closely - not just for the offside.

Salah doing what salah does best,cheating bastard!

he's learnt from masters Rob. Little Michael Owen went down the same way a thousand times, like he'd been shot by a sniper.

The more I see of that penalty the less I think it was a penalty.

Salah Pen again - he must be top scorer - is he related to Mohamed Salah?

Souness has just said nothing, watch sky over the next few weeks and I'm sure he would disagree if certain teams got a decision like that in their favour.

He'd be right to disagree, but when is football going to change these absolutely pathetic laws, because it's another decision which has no real justification imo.

Brent. The dead cat. It's on Shaquiri's head.

Nice one Ray. And as we speak the rs go one up.

Goal ruled out!!! That's even worth a red card.

I really do believe VAR can be a force for good in our game.

I agree Brent very clear leading leg. Small mercies at least it was disallowed. Commentary “they've one it once now they need to win it again”. The media love in continues.

And that is why Moyes is a failure. One of the game's instinctive cowards. The commentary I was listening to on BT, I think, might as well have been Liverpool TV. A disgrace.

Moyes failing to get a result at Anfield then? I suppose it had to happen eventually. What with his incredible and unrivaled record of total success at the place down the years. To the guy five posts after this one that takes me up on this claim, I am being sarcastic fella!

Just put on another thread,, typical Sky Sports R/S bias. After all the fun and games of recent weeks there is now a familiar look in the Premier League. our cant do no wrong Liverpool are back on top of the league.. What drivel.

No one to stop the RS I'm afraid another walk in the park title this year by the looks.

What a shit league the prem has become at the top

Well the pressure is now off, off to stay top of the table tomorrow. The incentive now for tomorrow is to win and return to the top. We've done it once, so we can do it again. 3-0 win tomorrow.

Man City, Leicester, Wolves, Spurs, Newcastle. The rs have got to play all these before the end of the year. With the injuries they've got I can see them dropping points.

The shite's result should be incentive enough for tomorrow's game. Carlo should wind them up to bursting point.
Barry, put down that fucking white flag and pick up your Everton scarf ffs.

Souness doesn't think the RS pen was a pen. He said Salah has gone down in an un-natural way and referees fall for it every time with Salah.

Good on Sourness. Just what we thought as well.

If that's the case with Salah, why is he not booked for simulation? Why aren't the premier league looking at these incidents and giving Salah a retrospective ban? Every penalty is the same with him. He's just a cheating bastard and getting away with it time after time.

Barry@41: Seriously? Get a grip mate!

its safe to say Liverpool are back in the Devils good books

No doubt there will be a prolonged inquiry into Salah's routine deception and into the fact that it is sanctioned by Klopp. Step forward Danny Murphy and Chris Sutton as the impartial tribunal.

Yet another struggling win for RS but win they do even when they are struggling but it's not coming as easy as it did last season.

Salah has one ploy and many defenders just haven't cottoned on yet which shows the poor standard of coaching at many Prem. clubs.

Would like the Blues to get back on track tomorrow but it has to be a lot better attitude than last week but maybe it's a godsend the Barcodes won't have that raucous crowd behind them.

Stan @48

Be interested to know who you think will stop them and why?

Spawny cheating RS.

I don't watch the Sky and BT as too many ex RS, and the odd cameo by Tim and I watch the games on an App via my phone, it's free and aside it's in Dutch, it's good enough for me.

These louse get almost at least one penalty per home game and how many times do we see the RS front line drop like a bag of blight when the wind blows close by and no opposing player no where near them

That referee should be struck off the EPL list and demoted to the Championship.

Every game his ilk, start, means the game is in disrepute before a ball I kicked, such is his and his ilk amongst referees these days.

Enough said, let's get back on top tomorrow and let's hope Everton turn up and get mean and beat the Toon.

We'll see how much fight and resolve is in the reserve tank for this season.

In boxing, it's said that you have to knock your opponent out if you are fighting on their home soil as you'll never get a decision on points. Same with the RS at Anfield. You need a knock out blow as decisions invariably go their way. I haven't got the stats in front of me, but I bet the number of pens awarded there are like no other in the top flight. Only one way to respond and that is 3 points tomorrow.

Salah, is not alone, he just gets away with this type of decision probably more than any other player.

Retrospective bans should come in for cheating, even for players wearing Everton shirts, because football has got to rid itself of this awful cheating, that has slowly been allowed to become acceptable, and is definitely spoiling the game as a genuine spectator sport, although I might just be speaking for myself with these views.

Pretty bold statement after seven games Barry, if Aston Villa can beat them with them having a full 11 and having to play in Europe with the injuries they have got, anything can happen before they can improve in the January window.

Barry@52: Everton can stop them. Why? Because we've got a squad of very good players. We've got injury problems and suspensions, but if we can keep the decent start going despite these problems, once the problems subside we can resume the football we were playing before the international break.

Of course, if Everton do the usual and let us down after raised expectations, then the above won't happen. But that habit has to stop sometime, and this is a good time.

I agree, Tony.

It might just have been a penalty for the kick, without the laughably obvious, fraudulent second phase dive. Why not punish Salad anyway, the evidence is clearly there to be seen.

Won't hold my breath though. Vile cheating.

Will@58: Yes, the way they blatantly and repeatedly cheat and get away with it is ugly and spoiling the game. They are the riff-raff club of football.

...and there will barely be a mention, Stan.

Grant 39

Lmao. Even at 1-1, near the end I knew it wouldn't be Moyes unless it ended in tears

Quite a few mentions here of the RS missing list. Only 3 of their missing players were nailed on starters. Sunday we'll have 4 of ours missing. Doubt if the match commentators tomorrow will mention this as often as they brought up the RS absentee problems as an excuse for their performance in the game today.

There is a much bigger issue here than just saying Liverpool players cheat. Of course they do, but at least 99% of footballers do nowadays, and it's about time they started getting really called out in the media, (haha- imagine that!) and retrospective bans should become the norm, until football can rid itself of this evil cheating.

I'm not condoning Pickford, but consider the witch-hunt the last couple of weeks, whilst cynical cheating, pre-meditated, diving bastards, get away with murder - without a murmur, and deafening silence, from those who are usually very quick to condone.

Steve@62, that's exactly it in a nutshell, we have got people like Danny Murphy, now writing that it's about time “we” admitted “we was wrong” and started letting teams use 5 subs.

He can understand the smaller clubs, because their squads are not as strong, but he actually says the flip side of this is that the others are having to go all around Europe, playing games!

Honestly, since the derby I've given myself a headache, because of the way the other crowd have carried on, aided by gobshites like Murphy and co, but it's true, teams look a bit jaded, and if we can just battle and fight to stay in the mix, anything could be possible this season?

Tony@63: Yes, and in my opinion all of that amounts to corruption when there's a bias towards certain clubs. In the case of LFC, not only do their players cheat habitually but their management clearly foments the bias that we see. In that respect, LFC is corrupt, an ugly disgrace of a club, absolute riffraff.

They would say they are just using their power Stan, but I agree, because if this is the case, it's why we receive so much silence, whenever they get another decision.

Moyes hit the nail on the head when I watched his interview this morning. He said who really wants to be associated with football like this? In reference to Salah diving, and that one sentence alone, should make the authorities stand up and look at how bad the cheating has now become (imo)

Tony, West Ham should really appeal with regard to that Salah dive, with respect to deception in the way that Niasse had been looked at. But even if they did, the bias that exists could arise again in the makeup of the review panel, the Niasse review panel having included Danny Murphy.

As such, that type of appeal from West Ham could include an appeal or reservation about the makeup of the review panel, and thereby the system in place for forming such a panel, if there is a concern. Something surely has to be done, the whole thing is now intolerable.

But while this problem exists, the only thing Everton can do to deal with it is win games. We must win the Newcastle game, and not shoot ourselves in the foot as we've so often done. That's the real frustration, the failure of Everton to do things that are within our control.

It's all over the place Stan, from top to bottom. I could honestly pick many people on this website alone, who could do a much better job than the authorities are currently doing mate. And it would just be, “all just for the good of the game.”

Last night I watched MOTD and the difference the way pundits asses football matters is all about which club there talking about. Lineker, Shearer and unbelievably Murphy all said the penalty for Liverpool was the turning point and all 3 said it wasnt a penalty. The other discussion was about Jotas disallowed goal, but in that incident Mane missed the ball completely and went into Fabianski with his studs showing. Now I could well imagine if that had been us they would have spent 5 minutes talking about a serial diver winning another penalty, and Shearer as he did with Niasse suggest the authorities take another look at that incident. I have come to the conclusion that MOTD should do away with pundits and just show the games and the interviews with players, with no comments from the presenter. We all thought VAR would be a great leveller and stop the Sky favourites getting dubious decisions but it hasnt,

Tony 66 - that's one of the things I always respected Moyes for. We always played fairly and didn't dive. He fined Neville for the ludicrous dive he made once.

A lot of people on here didn't like it, but I'd rather try to win knowing that we are better than the serial cheats.

I was just thinking about all the rule changes that have been brought in since the 80s and you would think FIFA had asked John Cleese and the Python team to come up with the changes.

I mean who in their right mind would bring in a rule were if a player kicks another player and the trainer has to come on to asses the injury the injured player has to leave the field while the perpetrator is allowed to stay on the field giving his side a numerical advantage, how mad is that?

Then there was the change to the offside rule, which has been in place for decades, everybody understood the rules, so they decide to change the rules so you can be in an offside position but deemed not interfering with play, really. Then some years back they wanted to give forwards an advantage with the offside rule so they said level would not be offside, but now if an attackers toe is a millimetre ahead of the defender he is now offside.

Handball rule again everybody understood the rule, if you move your arm or your hand towards the ball to gain an advantage inside the box its a penalty. Far to simple so lets change that rule, so now if the ball hits you and the ref considers your arm is in an unnatural position he gives a penalty. I mean when did refs become experts on natural and unnatural positions of your arm. Then there was confusion as to where the shoulder finished and the arm started, so they decided that the arm starts were a short sleeve tee shirt would be, lets remember these are suppose to be sensible men making these rules.

They have also increased the number of officials involved in a game now, not only do we have a ref and 2 linesman that was good enough for hundreds of years. But because of the 3 substitutions we have another official holding aboard to inform us of the substitutions, despite the fact that even with no crowds the stadium announcer tells everybody about the substitutions. UEFA then decided they wanted 2 extra refs on the pitch for the Uefa league matches, but strangely not adopted for Chanpions league games.

How annoying THEY are. They've been bleating since the derby about this and that with their tales of woe, their injuries and nasty Everton and how they they can't survive without ol' Virgil. Last night they reverted to type, at least Salah did. Quite frankly he cheats. Of course lots of players do it but that doesn't excuse it. I'd rather win nothing than have a team of diving cheats.

It was a clear dive by Salah, but not at all unusual by him, but in three reports I've read this morning the fault is laid at the WHU player for making that rash tackle and giving Salah an easy excuse to go down, each reporter said it was a soft tackle but it WAS a foul. So the cheating will continue and the likes of Moyes, with a genuine complaint, will be laughed at.

As Brian (71) says, basically, when did any of these new rule changes improve the running of the game, it is destroying fans enjoyment of watching football and only cheats benefitting from them.

Masuaku was very unlucky in that his foot made contact with Salah's foot and Salah, either by choice or instruction, when feeling ANY contact whatsoever, flings himself to the ground.
He doesn't fall as if the contact has unbalanced him he throws himself to the ground and feigns actual pain.
It's a fucking disgrace it really is.

I'm not worried about teams who get nothing at the shite. All these EPL managers could not wait to have a go at us with VVD and the offside goal. Let them get a taste of what we've had for years

Liverpool are a shadow of last year's side and they are living on luck, cheating and feigned outrage from the pundits. They'll be found out this year.

Southampton playing well. Excellent goal.

Brian@69: I got so pissed off with the blatant bias on MOTD that I decided to switch the sound off a while back. The lies and propaganda just do your head in and put you off the game. It's got to stop. In fact, I'll probably stop watching MOTD, I can see matches through other means. I don't know why I pay a TV licence, the BBC has become steadily crapper over the years.

Saints 0-2 up.

Not only was it never a penalty I've just read Callum Wilson's description, which shows how far the game has gone.

I see the hidden striker has come out in Giggs again*.

(*according to media sources).