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1 Posted 15/11/2020 at 15:54:10
Only posted about him this morning, responding to a question about Sharpy's volley.
2 Posted 15/11/2020 at 15:59:39
3 Posted 15/11/2020 at 16:14:22
4 Posted 15/11/2020 at 16:33:57
5 Posted 15/11/2020 at 16:34:01
The story was that, when Shankly went to have a look at him playing for Scunthorpe, he wanted to leave early after seeing Clemence clear the ball with his left foot, but the scout who was with Shankly told him to hang on – that Ray was right-handed. Shankly didnt rate left-handed goalies.
What hand does Pickford use?
6 Posted 15/11/2020 at 16:34:29
Anyway, he was a very good goalkeeper.
7 Posted 15/11/2020 at 16:39:05
Spurs needing to beat Everton, in what was deemed a title decider, didn't stop Clemence getting off his knees in disappointment at Southall's wonder save, to raise his hand and clap his opposite number.
Most people who grow old always remember if being better years ago, and that's how I feel now.
Football used to be hard, but mostly fair. Now, it's all about win at all costs, with sportsmanship being totally replaced by gamesmanship, so thanks for the memory, Ray Clemence.
8 Posted 15/11/2020 at 16:50:17
I was staying in a hotel in Peterborough in the mid-eighties and Ray was sat in the bar having a meeting with his business manager. He came to the bar and I said, “Alright, Ray!” and, on hearing my accent, he walked over to me. We chatted for about 15 mins and he apologised for having to get back to his meeting.
About half-an-hour later, I was joined at the bar by a redshite colleague from Fazackerly who said “Hey, have you seen who's sat over there?" And I said, "Who?" to which he replied "Ray fucking Clemence!"
I says "I know – he's a mate of mine, Ray is" – to which my redshite mate says, "Fuck off, you lying Bluenose."
Anyway, about an hour later, my mate says that Ray is up and on his way out and, as he got to the door, Ray looks over at me, raises his hand and says "See ya, Barry, it was nice talking to you."
The look on my redshite mate's fizzer was priceless.
I have never forgotten him for that and am really saddened by the news of his death. RIP Ray, a true gent.
9 Posted 15/11/2020 at 17:08:48
I did stand on the Kop with my oldest mate, (a red) and watched Clemence at one end and Shilton at the other in the European Cup in '78. 0-0 on the night and Forest progressed as they had won the 1st leg.
Shilton was probably more eye-catching but Clemence was positionally very good.
10 Posted 15/11/2020 at 17:46:15
11 Posted 15/11/2020 at 17:47:26
Too many names being lost too soon this year, it seems.
12 Posted 15/11/2020 at 18:19:03
I recall he had been quite poorly for a few years, but only 72.
A reminder of bygone times, when the game had more vitality, a different world, but whilst life moves on, and often changes are for the better, in terms of sportsmanship, football has hit a low ebb, in my view.
13 Posted 15/11/2020 at 18:20:41
14 Posted 15/11/2020 at 18:43:25
Ray Clemence may have been RS but, as some have already said, he was still a class act.
Evertonians will call shite when they see it, but we are never at the back of the queue when respect is due.
RIP, Ray Clemence.
15 Posted 15/11/2020 at 20:01:03
There were very few RS that I had a soft spot for back in Clemence's days. He was one; Brian Hall was another (not sure why). The rest of them...
I have two abiding memories of Ray Clemence. One was him running to the RS on his first game back there; the other is him clapping our greatest ever keeper after that astonishing save from Falco that made all of us squeezed in at the other end just know that we were now Champions.
RIP, Ray Clemence.
16 Posted 15/11/2020 at 20:19:33
17 Posted 15/11/2020 at 20:46:31
He made some really acrobatic saves. The save I remember him making was at Goodison in September 1975. Nearly 56,000 inside Goodison, 0-0 with just a few minutes left and the ball fell to Bob Latchford about 15 yards out and he lobbed Clemence. Somehow Ray got a fingertip to the ball and tipped it inches over the Park End crossbar. Incredible and I remember Latch applauding it in his Match of the Day interview.
The goalie at the other end of the pitch that day was Dai Davies. How sad they have both died this year and both died too young.
18 Posted 15/11/2020 at 22:06:11
19 Posted 16/11/2020 at 05:54:07
20 Posted 16/11/2020 at 11:47:41
I've just been discussing him with one of those mates, and in his opinion the finest save he ever saw from Clemence was from one of his own players! Liverpool v Newcastle at Anfield in the early 70s, the Liverpool centre half Larry Lloyd heads back to Clemence but gets it wrong and the ball flies towards the corner of the goal. Somehow Clemence manages to arch himself backwards in a spectacular leap and gets his fingers to the ball deflecting it over the bar.
21 Posted 16/11/2020 at 14:04:14
22 Posted 16/11/2020 at 14:36:27
In August TW shared an appeal by Dai's family asking Blues to share their personal stories and recollections of Dai.
I sent mine and got a lovely reply from Dai's daughter Bethan.
I presume the family continues to welcome contributions and I hope they and the TW editors don't mind if I copy and paste the email address to write to, if anyone is so inclined to share their own Dai story with the family.
23 Posted 16/11/2020 at 17:57:23
The current England Number 1 makes that kind of cock-up almost every game he plays lately... shows how standards between the sticks have dropped.
24 Posted 17/11/2020 at 13:38:38
1. Neville Southall
2. Gordon West & Ray Clemence
3. The rest.
26 Posted 17/11/2020 at 16:28:16
Good bloke. Like me, he's a Lincolnshire lad.
One of the high points of my footballing career was that I scored a penalty against him at our village garden fete. A mate of his was the PE teacher at our village's Secondry Modern.
Back in the day, nobody in our neck of the woods supported the rs. All the bullies, wrong uns, and people who allegedly didn't like football, all supported Man Utd. That's why, like Mike Gaynes, I hate them more.
To be complete, I unfortunately had to move to the Netherlands after our mother died. I am Dutch, but lived the first years of my life just above Boston, where I was born.
27 Posted 17/11/2020 at 17:12:11
Anyway, he was brilliant with us kids, a real good fella and made sure he let in at least one penalty for everyone. RIP, Ray.
28 Posted 18/11/2020 at 10:04:56
29 Posted 18/11/2020 at 21:06:44
30 Posted 18/11/2020 at 21:30:06
31 Posted 19/11/2020 at 07:25:37
Dad told me his Dad thought Ray Clemence was the best English keeper he'd ever seen, after Gordon Banks, and better than Peter Shilton. That's high enough praise for me.
Football has very sadly lost more than it's share of luminaries this year. I think all of us are hoping the sad news about Ray Clemence is the last we hear for some time.
As an aside, I asked the old fella, a rabid blue, how many other former kopites he would be similarly moved to pay tribute to if they were to pass away.
"Beardsley – but he was ours as well – and Kevin Keegan."
32 Posted 19/11/2020 at 14:27:53
33 Posted 19/11/2020 at 14:57:02
I watched bits of England last night, and although he never had much to do I thought Pickfords body language was as good as Ive seen from him in a long time?
I wont hold my breath over Pickford, but Id love him to come good for obvious reasons, in a position that could be argued is the most important in the team.
34 Posted 19/11/2020 at 18:47:16
35 Posted 19/11/2020 at 19:34:35
RIP Ray you weren't a bad un for a RedNeck.
36 Posted 19/11/2020 at 20:37:56
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