Premier League — Round 17

Mmm.... Man City playing Chelsea with the same 5 players missing as against us.

I was about to say long night ahead for West Brom but Arsenal just scored.

It said a lot about the set up when in the 22nd minute the Arsenal keeper felt comfortable enough to come as far as the centre circle to take the ball and play it out!!

Watching west Brom -Arsenal and Jesus, there are going to be some injuries tomorrow, they are slipping and sliding all over the place.

Fireman Sam has well and truly been doused!! 11 goals conceded in 3.5 games.

Tierney looks very good. How much was he again? Of course WBA look awful.

Oh dear Big Sam. Played 3, scored 1, conceded 10 as it stands.

Sam's rescue package ain't making it.

It'll be the player fault again!

Plus the season now needs shutting down for 12 months

David- weren't we keeping tabs on him at Celtic? He looks excellent.

£25m David

I couldn't understand why WBA, wanted Allardyce, but I suppose he's got a great reputation for keeping teams in the top league, although something just doesn't seem right with this appointment.

I think the baggies are decent going forward, but have struggled defensively, so although bringing in a very defensive minded coach seems logical enough, these players will now be getting coached on their weaknesses rather than their strengths, so I'm intrigued to see if Big Sam's luck finally runs out?

In saying that, Allardyce said that getting a draw at Anfield, took a lot out of his players, so I'd say if there is any truth in this, then Leicester must be the nap of the day to beat Newcastle tomorrow afternoon?

There is a really good film starting now on sky drama right now called Sleepers, it's meant to be based on truth, but I'm not sure if this is 100% true.

Probably just as well we didn't face Manchester City last Monday, they're already three up at Stamford Bridge and, like Tony suggested above, Leicester City won at Newcastle.

All of which means there is very little separating the top ten sides in the division. Which is why the abject performance and defeat to West Ham is all the more galling.

Just like to thank the Man City players who caused our game to be postponed.

Don't think Abramovich will be giving Lampard much more time Chelsea 3 goals down and being run ragged by City. We may have been better playing City as the rest seems to have worked wonders for them. doesn't explain why the rest did not do Everton any good they looked slower.

Agree 100% Danny.

Man City running riot. Bet they are relieved they swerved the might of Sigurdsson's cutting 5-yard passes.

Bloody hell lads, enough about Man City! OK, they're beating Chelsea 3-0, but so what? Villa beat Liverpool 7-2, someone middling beat Man Utd 6-1, etc. We could give City a spanking, but we certainly won't if we go into such a game with no belief. All teams are up and down this season.

Fat Frank's got a face like a dropped pie.

RIP Gerry Marsden. Loved ‘Ferry cross the Mersey'.

Man Utd fans will be gutted, Colin, after all they were the first fans to sing that turgid song following the Munich air disaster.

Which one, Rob?

Steady boys.

Lets not be the same horrible twats as they are.

Their "famous" anthem one, Colin.

Thomas #21,

Not sure why you're calling foul? I see nothing that is either disrespectful or controversial. The neighbour's anthem as sung by the late Gerry Marsden was indeed first sung by Manchester United supporters following the 1958 Munich Air Disaster.

YAWN? Cheesy crap that one.

Patrick,

I'm not calling foul.

I've had a few distasteful texts from fellow blues re Gerry Marsden. Just asking our fellow posters not to stoop to the levels of our neighbours.

Hi Rob, [21] I was serving with the army in Cyprus when the Munich tragedy occurred and therefore this is the first time I have heard of United fans singing "that song", I have heard that Celtic fans lay claim to being the first to sing it.

Hi John [aka Patrick] you must be surmising that Everton would have played as they did against West Ham, and that Manchester City would have performed the way that they did against Chelsea this afternoon. We will never know how things would have turned out because, when the fixture is eventually played, the situation will no doubt be different in many ways. Forecasting results before kick-off is a dodgy exercise, but to foretell the result of a non-existent game is impossible, apologies for being pedantic.

According to the Manchester Evening News article of February 2007:

Jane, 61, was a teenage opera singer when many of her footballing heroes were killed in the tragic Munich air crash in 1958.

And as her own special tribute to the Busby Babes, heartbroken Jane convinced her friends from New Mills Operatic Society in Derbyshire to join her in a rousing rendition of the song at one of the games following the tragedy.

The tune was written for the 1945 musical Carousel, which Jane and her friends were rehearsing at the time. The pals started the singing but soon You'll Never Walk Alone was being belted out by thousands of fans at Old Trafford.

It's our song?

Wow. Southampton 1 up already. 2 mins.

Klopp out! Go Saints!

Sky News reporting Premier League football to stop.

Is that because the RS are getting beat Paul?

With today's result going the wrong way the league, needs to shut it down before another team overtakes them.

Seriously, lads, if the score remains unchanged, it will mean that Southampton overtake us in the league. So, for the first time ever, I'm going for a Saints win!

That's not true, Paul Smith.

Premier League football is not affected.

No shots for the RS in the first half. See, they play like crap sometimes too.

David # 36, I think that was just a wind up by Paul, just because the RS are losing. At least that's the way I saw it.

Ah I see sense of humour failure. Wait till City and United both go above them the Spirit of Shankly will be out in force to stop the season.

FFS What a dive by Mane just then. How on earth is he not booked for that?

1 rs pen and a Southampton keeper error (in any order) coming up, aided and abetted by VAR... well that's what usually happens.

And on the positive side; remember Klopp is only a ballboy's smartarse quip away from totally losing it on live tv.

rs lose!!

Hassenhuttl overcome in tears!

Don't think Carlo would do that.

Some of us probably would.

There is your replacement right back.
Walker Peters.
What a player this lad will be.

Even better for us tonight. Everton 4 points behind the top with a game in hand. Well played Carlo tonight!!

These German managers like the limelight don't they - a grown man pretending to cry - for fuck sake, get a grip, pretentious bullshit.

EDIT:

just realized Hasenhüttl is Austrian - still a pretentious prick in my eyes.

As Andy King once said, "The party's over."

Much better than that overhyped Trent Arnold, Thomas. He's useless at defending, always caught out on the wrong of the attacker he's meant to be marking, always beaten for pace, and so easy to go passed. Ok he can deliver a good free kick and has scored some good goals from a dead ball situation, but for me, he's shite at what he's meant to do, defend!!

I hope Ancelotti was watching tonight, Southampton manager achieved their 2nd 1:0 victory over top opposition by having a strong defence. The first time was against Man City after conceding massive possession in both games.

Thomas- I have been enthusing over Walker-Peters since last season. He is a clever lad and so quick. By the way- what a great way for Hassenhuttle to respond..boy it meant a lot to the guy!

Rob- i'm sure (on Hesgoal) that the commentator said Trent gave possession away 38 times before he was hooked!

Walcott is a cunt, why couldn't he run around like that when in our team?

Just what is it that at Everton, some players seem to have no passion for the club?

It's a bit like the Leicester season when they took full advantage of others in supposed transition. With a few astute signings this window and it could be us causing havoc at the top. I'm sure Marcel is on it like Quagmire with the keys to the playboy mansion. Coyb

Eddie, it did say that during the sky commentary.

What excuses will Mr Ed, be making for this game?
Great finish by zings, and a well crafted goal by Soton.

Every single Southampton player, ran like they'd rather die than get beat. How I wish our club, knew how to instill that. Would cover a multitude of average 'superstars'.

Oh, and of course, Carragher has to mention Everton and Van Dijk. I suppose we just have to go through the process until, eventually, we get to be proud of our team on a weekly basis. Patience is a virtue and all that.

Oh Danny boy we love you !!

Amusing to see Herr Klopp smirking at the OTT antics on the sideline from his embarrassing countryman Hasenhuttl. It must be a new experience for Jurgen to be the second most cringy twat in the stadium.

As I've been saying all season, in this unprecedented pandemic-affected season there is a real opportunity for teams outside the usual suspects of shaking up the CL and Euro League places.

Don't look at our results in isolation. Take into consideration what is happening at other clubs.

United's away performances were covering up their woeful home form. They are now getting the latter together. Leicester are similar. Good on the road, but poor at home. Villa similarly mixed.

Since we ended Chelsea's 17-game unbeaten run, their form has fallen off a cliff.

City have been clunky, look to be getting into gear, but very soon will face a congested fixture list. Spurs also stuttering.

Then there is that lot. Only their home form is keeping them high in the table. The 7-0 thrashing of Palace was a complete outrider in their away form, which reads:

Chelsea w 2-0
Villa l 2-7
Everton d 2-2
City d 1-1
Brighton d 1-1
Fulham d 1-1
Palace w 7-0
Newcastle d 0-0
Saints l 0-1

Not very good, is it?

By contrast, we have won 5 on the road. Equal with Villa. Only bettered by United and Leicester with 6 each.

Only United has won more total games - 10 - than our 9, equal with them (who have played a game more) and Leicester.

I'll say it again.

We're doing all right.

In fairness to Her Wooden tooth, he forced himself to go onto the pitch to try and tap-up Walker -Peters at the end...he was fecking hating himself!

Ha Duncan, Hasenhuttl is totally overcome with emotion after beating his hero. Like you say, two peas in a cringe infested pod.

Some RS on talkshite still moaning about the virgin van dick injury. Jeez, they won't let it go will they!!

Ah diddums!!

The Puppetmaster is wrecking the confidence of his back-up CBs playing two midfielders..when are the luvvie media going to cotton-on that he is a manipulative,bullying scumbag who doesn't give a fig for anyone who can't do what hwe wants.

Talking about not letting things go, I see that Martin Samuel has managed to write an article that is almost word for word of what we read last week in another newspaper. I also note that Five Live-rpool, gave Dominic Calvert-Lewin the diving award for December, I believe that Everton has only been awarded two penalties this season, so I'm at a loss to understand why? Oh I know, Manchester United want to buy him and anything that helps to lower the asking price is good right?

Stop Moaning

LFC have not got a major injury problem, apart from one player, Van Dijk. He is their defensive piece that led them from nearly winning trophies to winning a couple. And his absence reveals their weaknesses again, which were evident before they signed him. That's why they go on about him being injured, but they pretend it's part of a bigger injury crisis, which it simply isn't.

Everton, on the other hand, have had, and are still having, an injury crisis. But the media ignore that. And despite that crisis, we still have enough quality to be contending at the top of the league.

One thing that is worse than the media bias, is the pessimisim of some posters on ToffeeWeb, which I believe stems from an unconscious bias influenced by the red media bias. Some on here simply cannot believe we can compete and are currently competing; they are constantly looking for explanations for our good results in terms of luck or the opposition playing badly. This unconscious bias extends to constant criticism of our current manager, despite our current competing in the face of the injury crisis.

Chaps, some of you really need to get a grip, see through the bias, and appreciate the reality. Beware of propaganda, it's very powerful, and can and does sway you against the very team you support without you realising it.