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Bill Gall
1 Posted 30/04/2021 at 20:16:01
Well that is the most stupid red card this season Southhampton player won the ball and because he caught Vardy with his foot he is sent off, don't now were he was to put his leg after winning the ball
Craig Harrison
2 Posted 30/04/2021 at 20:20:07
If that is a red gomes is screwed
Danny O’Neill
3 Posted 01/05/2021 at 07:40:45
Watched it a few times now. Red for me.

There seems to have been this view that as long as you get the ball first it's not a foul.

Personally I disagree. If the follow through is out of control and dangers the player, it's still a foul. Nasty contact on Vardy's leg as he scrambled to correct a mistake.

Dave Abrahams
4 Posted 01/05/2021 at 10:33:07
Danny (3), I've only had a quick look at the tackle, surely there has to be intent to get the man, to be sent off? Was VAR used in this case? It seemed a very severe red card to me Danny.
Brendan McLaughlin
5 Posted 01/05/2021 at 10:49:04
Apparently the VAR official upheld the red on the basis that the tackle denied a goal scoring opportunity.
Dave Abrahams
6 Posted 01/05/2021 at 11:04:35
Brendan (5), thanks Brendan, at least that's a decent excuse, still seems harsh.
Danny O’Neill
7 Posted 01/05/2021 at 12:02:11
I just get wary of "ball first" claims Dave. Just because you got the ball first doesn't mean it isn't a foul. I think if you look at the contact made on Vardy, that's dangerous.

I guess it's an interesting area. Where is the line between after the ball and not?

I thought that was a dangerous tackle. Not a malicious one and the player wasn't deliberately trying to hurt or foul the player, but catches him, so for me, a foul.

Chris Williams
8 Posted 01/05/2021 at 12:10:27
Jon Moss On var.

Enough said

Kevin Prytherch
9 Posted 01/05/2021 at 12:19:58
I'm in disagreement on this one. If you win the ball then it's not a foul, unless there is genuine danger such as both feet off the ground, high feet or a second movement afterwards.

There was non in this case, he won the ball fairly so therefore it shouldn't have even been a free kick. The art of the strong challenge is being eroded, we'll be watching netball soon crying out if there's any contact.

Danny O’Neill
10 Posted 01/05/2021 at 12:35:20
City's bench; an ultimate example of an embarrassment of riches.

Talk of Hodgson leaving Palace and Tottenham currently seeking a manager. Who do they go for? I can't think of many available options.

Rob Halligan
11 Posted 01/05/2021 at 13:27:23
Danny, once Allardyce has took West Brom down, he can go and strut his stuff at Spurs. With a bit of luck he may take them down as well.
Tony Everan
12 Posted 01/05/2021 at 13:45:15
Bang. Aguero lethal in the box.
Danny O’Neill
13 Posted 01/05/2021 at 13:47:03

Will only play half the season?

That is why I would take Aguero all day long.

If he plays half the games and trains all season with DCL, we get a good return.

Jay Wood

14 Posted 01/05/2021 at 14:16:44
Just watching the Saints-Foxes highlights from last night. No red card for me.

Yes, Vestergaard creates the problem for himself with a loose touch which means he has to make the recovering tackle. But he gets good clean and clear contact on the ball which is still some distance from Vardy's own feet.

Any manager and his fellow players would be asking why he didn't make the challenge in that situation if he hadn't done so. Not exactly like-for-like with Balbuena's even more ridiculous sending off for WHU v Chelsea last week, but similar (wrong) interpretation that the tackle was wreckless and uncontrolled.

Balbuena had the red card rescinded mid-week. It wouldn't surprise me if Vestergaard's was similarly overturned, although the officials have the get-out-of-jail card on this one being central and applying the 'last man' rule, denying the Vardy a goal scoring opportunity.

Danny O’Neill
15 Posted 01/05/2021 at 14:20:55
Like with offside, Jay, it's probably the rules that need looking at.

Man City cantering to the title. Palace doing a Palace. Safe; cue switch off and go to sleep for the rest of the season.

Jeff Armstrong
16 Posted 01/05/2021 at 18:19:20
Come on Fulham, Robinson and Lookman need to do us a favour.

No incentive though, think they're down. Local derby though, should get them interested at least.

Tony Hill
17 Posted 01/05/2021 at 18:57:48
Have a look at the remaining fixtures for Chelsea and Leicester. Our position as against West Ham is in our own hands.

We have a chance if we believe that we do.

Dave Abrahams
18 Posted 02/05/2021 at 17:40:39
Man. Unt. V Liverpool postboned because of United fans taking over the ground.

Liverpool likely to be awarded the three points because of United fans behaviour, I hear from a very good sauce.

Brian Williams
19 Posted 02/05/2021 at 17:43:03
Must be strong sauce that Dave. 🤣🤣🤣

Game's simply been postponed!

Kieran Kinsella
20 Posted 02/05/2021 at 17:43:42

That would be ridiculous awarding the RS points because of opposition fans protesting. On that basis a lot of teams should have been awarded a lot of games against the RS over the last 40 years

Brian Murray
21 Posted 02/05/2021 at 17:46:48
They can have their three extra points as they play tranmere in whatever league they are for bringing the game into disrepute
Brent Stephens
22 Posted 02/05/2021 at 17:48:39
Revised date TBA.
Danny O’Neill
23 Posted 02/05/2021 at 17:58:39
Carragher stepping into awkward territory.

Tom Bowers
24 Posted 02/05/2021 at 17:59:40
Shame on the authorities for not reacting to all the social media which indicated all this days before. Closing the gate after the horse has bolted is senseless.

This kind of behaviour will now become the norm after what happened when Trump and his cronies did nothing before, during or after the Washington riot.

Peaceful protest is one thing but trespassing and threatening behaviour should be dealt with.

Many morons follow social media and believe everything they hear from professional agitators with one aim only and that is to rebel against democracy.

Danny O’Neill
25 Posted 02/05/2021 at 17:59:41
That said, he's turned it around well.
Rob Halligan
26 Posted 02/05/2021 at 18:03:12
Whether it was right or wrong what man Utd fans did, I'm in total agreement with what they did. They've made their feelings known to the Glazers in a bit way about the ESL, that's if the Glazers even know what's happened. More the point, the protesters entered the stadium in the corner where the away section is. Question is, how or why were there any gates open? Could it have been an inside job, as there would have been no need for any gates all around the stadium to be open.
Brian Williams
27 Posted 02/05/2021 at 18:05:42
I thought it somewhat ironic that Gary Neville mentioned the possible risk to the Liverpool coach as it travelled to the ground.

All for peaceful protest but that wasn't peaceful and put people's lives at risk.

Danny O’Neill
28 Posted 02/05/2021 at 18:09:28
I thought that Rob.

We all know how difficult it is to get near the pitch. Very odd to me that hundreds were able to enter the ground and get on the pitch with relative freedom of movement.

Tony Abrahams
29 Posted 02/05/2021 at 18:13:19
I'm all for rebelling against democracy when disgraceful owners, have never been democratically voted in.

Dave Abrahams
30 Posted 02/05/2021 at 18:14:09
Dave(18), a very good sauce, yer gerrit!!
Thomas Richards
31 Posted 02/05/2021 at 18:18:51
Great stuff from the Utd fans.
Made up that they have had a go.
Michael Lynch
32 Posted 02/05/2021 at 18:22:48
Already seeing the RS making it all about them and how they would NEVER invade Anfield. Too busy bricking coaches and setting fire to the Liver Buildings I guess.
Kieran Kinsella
33 Posted 02/05/2021 at 18:23:00
The S*n reporting that Man Utd fans threw a flare at Carragher while calling him a “scouse bastard.” Carragher himself saying the fans were peaceful.
Will Mabon
34 Posted 02/05/2021 at 18:25:31
Mirror reporting that Carragher spat at the flare and put it out.
Kieran Kinsella
35 Posted 02/05/2021 at 18:30:37
Will that's a good one lol
Michael Lynch
36 Posted 02/05/2021 at 18:30:55
Gary Neville now confirming that he wouldn't have pissed on Carra if he'd been on fire
Brent Stephens
37 Posted 02/05/2021 at 18:33:12
But Neville did confirm it was him who pissed on Carragher's chips.
Kieran Kinsella
38 Posted 02/05/2021 at 18:34:59
Souness claiming a missile was fired at him that could have killed him. Hizbollah or Kim Jung Un? I think Kim's a red so probably Hizbollah
Will Mabon
39 Posted 02/05/2021 at 18:46:19
Souness apart, the various pundits'/ex players' statements seem quite supportive of the actions, not taking the usual PR condemnatory stance.

Roy Keane even going for the ramping up angle; "There's more to come, this is just the start from Man Utd fans, I guarantee you."

Thomas Richards
40 Posted 02/05/2021 at 18:49:14
I really hope so Will.
Been shit on for too long.
Organized inter club demonstrations hopefully.
Will Mabon
41 Posted 02/05/2021 at 19:39:13
Thomas - see you down at the protest!
Barry Hesketh
42 Posted 02/05/2021 at 19:45:12
If the Manchester United v Liverpool game is re-arranged for after May 17th, does that mean that fans will be allowed into Old Trafford to watch it?

I still can't see how demonstrations of any kind will help to take any club out of the owners' clutches unless of course, the owner wants to sell and who's to say that the buyers will be any better than the people they purchased it off?

Will Mabon
43 Posted 02/05/2021 at 19:58:16
Barry, only way is structure change to make sure owners can't operate this way. We'll have to see how that goes.
Kieran Kinsella
44 Posted 02/05/2021 at 20:55:45

“Carlo Out”
Carlo in and shake him all about, you do the Hokey Cokey and you turn around, that's what it's all about

Rob Halligan
45 Posted 03/05/2021 at 18:47:32
Poxey goal for Wolves. Big Sam is looking doomed!!
Barry Hesketh
46 Posted 03/05/2021 at 19:41:07
Come on, own up, which one of our TW wags infiltrated this Wolves Twitter account?

It's not so much the fact that this ‘manager' has got it wrong for the 33rd game on the bounce, but more the fact we still can't win at their place after 25 years. Absolutely embarrassing and sums us up as a club #wwfc #NunoOut

Rob Halligan
47 Posted 03/05/2021 at 19:58:15
So Arsenal have the pleasure of sealing Fat Sam's fate. Pity as we will need a favour from West Brom next week.
Bill Gall
48 Posted 03/05/2021 at 20:46:13
West Ham showing how you deal with the lower clubs
Bobby Mallon
49 Posted 03/05/2021 at 22:15:28
West Ham played very well tonight.
Bobby Mallon
50 Posted 03/05/2021 at 22:24:38
With our squad, can we sustain a European charge?

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