Euro 2020 — Day 9

56,000 crowd in Hungary. Lucas Digne playing but seems further forward. Can't quite work out the formation.

Great cross from him there for Mbappe. Close.

They must have a fabulous vaccination program in Budapest! The crowd is massive.
Great cross from Digne there.

A fine header to set up Benzema's pass to Mbappe. Digne represents us so well when we need it.

What a miss.

Mbappe's touch, take down and reverse lay off. Quality.

Jeff @120 - they have a very good vaccination programme, not all that far behind us, and way ahead of most of Europe.

Having said that Hungary has the highest number of Covid deaths in Europe (per million people).

Yes!!!!! Beauty, the atmosphere reminds me of escape to victory.

Oh hello!

The scorers first name is Atilla. Brilliant.

COME ON YOU BO-HUNKS!!!

My wife is second generation bo-hunk. We're going nuts here.

Love seeing a packed stadium and people going nuts again. Wonderful.

Jamie

I love Hungary it's unique. The rest of us Europeans are Germanic, Latin or Slavic. Slap bang in the middle these lot have a very unusual language, different culture entirely. The rest of us are generic by comparison

Magyars getting comfortable in possession finding paths to the final third. The froggies look out of ideas...

Dale,

It's refreshing to see pretty ordinary players actually calling for the ball, looking forward and being brave. France playing a lot like England and Dembele and Varane are making endless errors.

Noooooo!!!!!!! Crap.

Mbappe to the rescue!

Route 1. Sacre bleu!

Kieran -

I've never been, but agree. My wife and I want to go to Budapest before God rings the bell. I looks gorgeous. My wife's Dad promises me it's phenomenal and Europe's hidden gem.

I do love the unique Hungarian culture. Hungary and frankly Romania, walled off by their sheer mountains, are both fascinating places in Europe and the globe.

So who are the Magyars?

According to online dictionary, 'bohunk' is a derogatory term for someone from Bohemia (Czechia).

Had to add in edit: To me Magyars are the group mostly identified as Hungarian. I started writing before I saw Dale's post, and it was in response to Jamie's post.

Soren -

Wherever you went.

Bohunk is a deragatory term for Hungarians, to my knowledge.

I can only quote the late, great Ed Flaherty - one of my dear friend's Dad who passed away years ago [RIP Ed] while at my wedding reception with my bride.

"Crowley! With all these Bohunks and Micks here, there needs to be a brawl! Why is no one fighting?"

Bohunk is used in my house affectionately - poking fun at idiots who look to demean, my wife and sons use Bohunk as a prideful word, announcing their heritage.

Cheers.

And Si, Magyars is an old school term for Hungarians. Not a slur as far as I know

Definitely not a slur Dale, it's the Hungarian word for Hungarians.

Bo Hunk is probably one of those geographically ill applied slurs like when the English called Germans Huns.

Must be a contraction of Bohemian and Hungarian I guess. Not sure why that would be derogatory.

Si

I guess it's the intent. If you abbreviate Pakistani it's regarded as a racial slur for example.

Bohunk, again to my understanding, is derogatory due to class.

My wife is from Allen Park, Michigan. It's south Detroit, shoebox homes, and the Hungarians were brought in to work the lines at Ford.

Bohunk was used to describe the Hungarian working class - the indentured servitude carted into town to make the cars.

That's my wife's family's understanding of that word. And lots of people called the Hungarians that populate Allen Park Bohunks.

Way to go Hungary! Hahahaha fantastic!

That result is incredible.

Fantastic from Magyarzsag. Absolutely deserved.

Fantastic to watch. Don't know which way the next one's going, but this group could suddenly open up.

Kieran, it's certainly got to be in the way it's used as Jamie has explained. I don't think a contraction automatically makes something derogatory. I think I can say that as a Brit.

Any comments on Lucas Digne? I don't think he did much wrong but there were times when I thought other players ignored him or even stymied his usefulness. Seemed under-used to me.

Digne wasn't involved a lot but everything seemed to go down the other side.

Yeah France seemed to prefer the right side but produced very little from there.

Agree there Si regarding Digne, there was loads of occasions when the ball should have gone out to him, seemed some of the French players where reluctant to trust him, and yet on the odd occasion he did get involved he produced a couple of decent crosses.

Jamie #23, that's really weird. I grew up with the term "bohunks" in Chicago and Milwaukee, but it applied exclusively to Bohemians -- German-speakers from Czechoslovakia, now the Czech Republic. Never heard it applied to Hungarians before.

I thought Digne did well, probably better in the first half and put in a great cross that should have been converted. His defending was also solid.

Another good game coming up! And great to see fans again.

Can't wait for the opening game at Goodison with our new signings ready to break the top 6.

Deschamps, like Southgate, bottled it with team selection and tactics. Well done Hungary.

Never heard that phrase before. The German speaking population of what is now the Czech Republic went by a different name as I always understood Mike.

It's interesting Colin, my repeated tournament favourites, yet seen them play fairly negative in both games so far. Guess it's still the group stages.

There is no substitute for class but without consistency it is useless to a team.

Everton have a few players like that and the new manager really has to decide if they are worth keeping.

I don't care who is manager after the revolving door actions of the last ten years. We all get overly optimistic when a new guy comes in and then the big disappointment comes.

France thought this was a cakewalk and were far to casual at times especially around the Hungary box.

There has been some upsets and I am sure there will be one or two more. Sadly, parking the bus paid dividends for the Magyars in that first half scoring with their first shot.

I hate to see total negativity but it does work sometimes and that is why some less talented teams keep playing that way even in front of their own fans.

There is a core of really good players at Goodison and some talented youngsters waiting their opportunity but the right man needs to be appointed not some money grabbing mercenary like Ancellotti.

In lacking courage, England and France surrendered to meek draws. Let's get some wingers on both sides of the pitch stretching the play and causing problems.

Colin, who do you think Deschamps should have started instead?

I think, after seeing the Hungary game and a full stadium, I want all the games to be in Budapest!

Germany looking down the barrel of a gun right now. They have to get a point.

Great goal... that isn't.

Phew. My 50/1 Pepe first scorer is still on!

Offside, surely?

Is that a German bell I hear tolling?

Sorry about your bet, David.

That would surely be given offside by our loveable folk at Stockley Park!

David, I've thought this for a long time, maybe the whole DOF model is the problem, Josh King a case in point,Ancelloti was not interested in using him, even when we had no strikers available, for me a manager signs, picks, and uses the players he has identified, I believe we achieved ALL our past success using this blueprint,

why has it become rocket science?

Looked at that long and hard. I think it's on in the first phase. And then the ball falls to Ronaldo who is behind the player so he is definitely onside.

Perfect execution of a counter from a defending corner by Portugal. Ronaldo at 36 bursting forward like he's 18.

Jeff, l agree. But we have Brands and l'm thinking he spends more time trying to sell or loan out players than he does signing them. We have no style or continuation so any new man comes in and starts again, again.

Mike, thanks. It was worth a go.

Another interesting game!!

Brill. Still hope for the Magyars

Das gut!

Get in. Muller dictating to players where to be and make runs in the build up if you watch carefully.

Double OG! Who had that punt?

Huge goal - Germany's Euro fortunes changing by the second.

I've watched a lot of games in my life.

Never seen two OGs in four minutes.

First time ever for two OGs in the same game at the Euros... but in four minutes???

Yeah Danny. I'd like to see Miller get his badges

Dale, do you think he could get them in the next 10 days?
He will make a great coach.

Almost a fatal giveaway there

He wouldn't take the pay cut, Jeff.

Good comeback. Good half of football for a group match.

Dale, he was even giving instructions after the goal.

Jeff, some forgeries could be useful. Was thinking Roberto needs a defensive number 2 but Muller would do

Very entertaining half! Germany needs to hold this lead.

Mike, Giroude should've started. France's 2nd highest scorer, after Henry. He's gone with Benzema who hasn't played international football for years which is a mistake. Same goes for Dombele. He's hardly played for the last two seasons and it showed.

Dale, I think some of our recent managers must have used dodgy paperwork to get the gig! (Dalespeak)😀

But Colin, I think France are through, so Deschamps may say he's using his squad and reintegrating Benzema into the team for later on in the tourno, Dembele needs game time, he's getting it in the group stages.

Deutschland kommt zuruck!

I think Hungary will end up the fall guy's in this group, great effort earlier though.

Thats not another car hire company is it Danny?

Thanks for that Jeff. It's not Scouse is it?

KNELL! The Magyars have a shot if this score line holds

Haha. Germany are back.

Never right of the Germans. Even when they are in transition. Semi finals are failure to them. A close defeat against the French has provoked a reaction.

Didn't change the team, didn't change the system either. Don't panic.

Gosens was tremendous from the get go getting in space demanding the ball. MOTM for me

It's become a stroll in the park for the Germans.

The years catching up with Pepe, a decent coach spots that 18 months ago, Elliot Gould missed that one!

Joachim Lowe scratches his arse, has a sniff, and thinks, I got that right tonight .

Although!!

Okay, a fourth of this game left to go…I'm rolling one up.

This is a fun game.

Can't beat a summer Saturday evening with a decent tournament game on.

Come on Portugal get another.

Spain and Poland have a lot to live up to after these two great games

Portugal's average age must be 33!

Great strike Sanches

Germany doing to me at international level what Everton do to me at club level.

I've gotta a prediction for you all, it's a bit radical but here goes. I've a feeling England are not going to win the Euros.

Shame that wasn't a foot to the right. That would have made it very, very, interesting!

Sticking your neck out a bit there Joe! What are the odds?
Anything to do with the quality and application that's been on view today maybe swayed you?

Never give up England are still on to win the competition.

#paddy power

Yeah the tournament is coming to life today. Carvalho is spent, nothing since Sanchez hit the post

Jeff, I don't know what you mean 84 😂

Great game to watch. I enjoyed that.

Yes but been sitting on couch for hours!

Wonder if Spain can find their shooting boots.

Poland out if they lose. Grandad will turn in his grave. Luckily he's had lots of practice

Polska! Polska! Gdańsk it!

Difficult who to support in this game there are lots of Polish where I live and the women are really fit but we holiday in Spain and the women have really tight arses - it is a dilemma.

Barry

Use the men as the tie breaker

Battle of the best Chinos, waistcoat and Polo, who comes out the smartest, wonder what these coaches are really thinking about for the last hour before a game..pathetic.

Barry, you have to support the Spanish. When l split from my Polish partner of 10 years she said "Fuck you... and Fuck Everton!"

Chalk up another one for VAR. I realize a lot of folks don't like it, but that's a good example of using it properly and getting the proper outcome.

Barry.

Do you have any joy with the ladies of either nation?
Or are you just window shopping

Mike 92. Even seeing the replay on itv in the UK it looks offside.

Imagine being at the match and us scoring that goal and straight away getting chalked off and then a minute later it's given as a goal.

Just adds to the confusion and takes away the excitement of a goal.

FIFA need to change the offside rule to any part of the body level is a goal. We could still have var but we would see a lot more goals.

Mike

True. I thought he was easily off but var was spot on

David 91

I'm with you brother - Spain it is.

Lewa! It's on

The way he was belting out the anthem like he was Viv Stanshall I thought he had a goal in him

Cheers Barry.

Harsh penalty though, as spud said.

Paolo Sousa as our next manager?He certainly takes sartorial elegance up a notch from Benitez, who always has his tie too long in my view.

Why was it harsh David? It's a free kick anywhere else on the pitch. The ball is live and he's taken a Spanish player out of the match.
By ‘spud' do you mean Danny ‘Muppet' Murphy? His commentary is laughable at times. Of course not all contact is a penalty, but when you stud the top of an opponent's foot then it should be. The fact that he got the ball away before being caught is irrelevant.

“the women have really tight arses” - how exactly did you find that out, Barry?

Si, l thought the ball had gone. But lots of fouls being missed in this.

Pity England can't get Spain in the next round

And yes he looks like a potato!

Robert, his tie is so long because his stomach keeps forcing his trouser zip to open. Fact.

David, what does it matter if the ball has ‘gone' even if that term applies in this case? It wasn't as though he'd knocked it into row z. Even ‘mash for brains' Murphy admitted it didn't matter that he'd got the ball away, he was wittering on about the amount of contact (which looked clearly enough for the player to go down for me).
I like potatoes. I'd prefer not to have to think of that idiot every time I see one.

Barry@88: Do you mean that their husbands/partners never buy a round?

Good enough. Cannot wait for the Wales Italy match. See you then.

David # 104, it all makes sense now. Maybe he'd be better wearing joggers with an elasticated waistband.

Si, yes okay maybe l switched to supporting Poland in the end. They battled for that point.

Sorry if l ruined potatoes for you

Robert, well that look works for me!

Stan (106), I can't imagine that would be a plus in Barry's book (unless it's a sympathy vote).