Everton among clubs interested in Caicedo

This is the type of player that I thought Marcel Brands was brought onboard to find. I admit to only having seen him on YouTube and I'm sure the league he's playing in is a poor standard but he looks head and shoulders above everybody else and still only 19.

Worth a speculative punt before the cat really is let out of the bag. He can tackle, pass, create, score and even run which is something quite unique within our current midfield.

Just don't put him with the U23s under the tutelage of Everton Old Boys FC.

Excellent young player. I've seen him twice, both times for Ecuador, in a win over Uruguay and an absolute stomping of Colombia and James Rodriguez (6-1 I believe). Couldn't believe he was a teenager. Best player on the pitch in the Colombia game.

Yes please! As I've mentioned on other threads, he looks a fantastic young player. A very complete young midfielder who has already held his own in some International matches and in the South American Champions League.

A Kante/Gueye type who can pass, shoot and carry the ball. Probably more a player for the future than right now but could be useful now and brilliant in a few years time.

Thomas #1

Unfair on the U23 coaches in my opinion. They are doing okay with what they have available to work with. If they are good enough for the manager, they are good enough for me.

Mike,

You normally have a good nose for these young whipper-snappers. Isn't it nice to see the club linked to young, fresh players on the up rather than old veterans looking for a swansong?

You betcha, Eddie. And I always have a proprietary interest in the young ones from this side of the Atlantic. I watch the Latin America World Cup qualifiers looking for candidates.

I remember one in particular, a young Costa Rican left-back who tore the US apart in a qualifier. I posted here several times my hope that Moyes would buy him. And damned if he didn't finally do just that!

That's why my personal list of all-time greatest Everton goals will always include Oviedo Baby At Old Trafford. I literally cried for joy. Hell, I still get misty-thinking about it.

Memo to Mr Chairman.

Mr Gaynes is available as our Americas scout.
He has already made you millions with one signing.

What is your take on Gabigol, Mike?

Mike (our American scout) on a serious note, do you know what Everton's scouting set-up is for the Americas?

Interesting to see that Sebastian Haller is likely to move on from West Ham. At a massive loss.

He was touted on here by many fans, much like Bas Dost. I was never really convinced that he was worth the huge sum paid. But that's what teams in the Premier League are willing to pay for a striker.

Not long ago, people were booing Romelu Lukaku at Goodison Park for ‘not trying hard enough'. Laughable really.

Mike Gaynes #6, watching the coverage of Trump's acolytes storming Capital Hill, I spotted a chap in a royal blue top (looked like an EFC replica top) waving the Confederate flag. Anything you'd like to own up to? Or perhaps Jamie in Florida?

I think Lukaku frustrated loads of Evertonians when he never worked hard enough, Tommy, but I never heard people booing him, even though they knew he could be unplayable when he really put his mind to it.

He could get away with a lack of effort (at times) playing for Everton, but this wasn't the case at Man Utd, and some people wonder why we never seem to do as well once we feel pressure.

Reading what people are saying, then this is exactly the type of signing I'd love Everton to be making, and I will always say, if a player is good enough then he's old enough, especially if he's willing to work.

Another Onyekuru with no work permit? It'll never happen anyway.

If he's able to join and improve the first team in the next season or two then great... otherwise, I'm not Kean.

Just get Rabiot for now. This other fella will be off to one of Sly's favourites.

Thomas #7, I'll defer to Jay Wood on Gabigol. He has seen far more of him.

Brent #8, I don't think we have one. At all. To my knowledge we've never signed a young US prospect. I've never even heard of us scouting one.

Mike #10, I'm a Biden man, but your second guess would be closer. (Kidding, Jamie.)

Several TWers have also sent me images of a Chicago Toffees banner mounted on a Capitol railing during the riot, but the Chicago Evertonians Supporters' Club has posted the following message on their Twitter page:

"The image of the Chicago Evertonians flag at yesterday's events in DC is a fake.

It has nothing to do with our supporters club in any way, shape or form.

Given the significance of the events, we would ask that this image is not circulated any further."

The owner of AJ Hudson's, the #1 Everton pub in Chicago, is a fella named Jamie Lenard who used to post on TW occasionally. I'd love to hear more from him about this.

@11 Tony

I witnessed the boos myself at Goodison many times (in The Paddock).

Personally I think Rom gave his all, in his own way. The result being an outstanding goals return. He was a hell of a finisher, put him through with a defender and a goalkeeper to beat and he was phenomenal.

He may not have chased around the front line and pressed the channels. Some players are clever enough to know how to get the best from themselves. I put Rom in this category. He played to his own strengths and the result for our team was a terrific goal scorer. Selfish maybe, but some of the best strikers are.

And although some fans would love an Ashley Barnes or Jon Walters type, slide-tackling full-backs and buzzing around, closing down. I know what I prefer. A goal machine, a world-class striker.

Certainly looks a good prospect but whether we have any interest, apart from us on ToffeeWeb, remains to be seen. Don't know a great deal more about this guy.

Allegedly, Man Utd were interested, but it fell through, does anyone know why? Also, does anyone have any idea about what sort of figure would secure his signature? Lastly what would the Work Permit (usually the stumbling block) situation be?

A signing like this could mean we have Allan's natural heir at the club for only a small outlay. He will have time to learn the ropes and gain experience in Europe before we need him to become a first-team regular.

Obviously some such signings don't work out – but you tend to recover the fee or even make some money when moving a young player on. If Brands can also find some young forwards, that would be ideal.

Morning Del, I'm sure I read that United have already applied for a work permit and that's the reason that they haven't tied up the deal yet.

Their manager says they've not spoken to Man Utd, but have spoken to an English club, the journo speculates Chelsea but it could well have been us. Sounds like the lad has a pick of which club to join.

We may have a shout as the path to he first team may be better for him at Everton. Allan being at the club will be a draw to him too, what a midfield player to train with and learn from. So I don't think the fat lady has sung just yet.

Derek, the figure I've seen banded around is £5.5m. Chances are this has been plucked from nothing by poor journalists but, at that price, I think he'd be an absolute steal.

It's true he's not played a huge amount of first-team football (25 games) but what he has played has been pretty impressive.

There's nothing like a South American wonderkid to get the juices flowing; they rarely turn out to be as good as expected but this lad looks like he has qualities we could really use: an athletic and dynamic centre-midfielder who can tackle, dribble, pass and score. Gueye with goals? Fingers crossed, though if Man Utd really want him, I should think that is where he will end up.

Mike #15

Thanks.

Jay,

Do you rate Gabigol? Good scoring rate but not sure of quality of the league he plays in.

Well that's the kid's future secured.

He's been 'linked' with Everton so he can be sure of being seen very soon in a Tottenham shirt.

Just on the transfer front I see Man Utd have signed 18-year-old winger Amad Diallo from Atalanta, the fee is initially £19 million with a further £18.2 million in add-ons. So far, he has played 1 game in Serie A, contrast that to the supposed offer from PSG of £31 million for Kean a 20-year-old who is scoring regularly for PSG and is also an Italian International, and has played and scored in the Premier League.

Yet according to the poll on T/W 70% think this is good business.

Brian, I think the poll reflects the view that, for all his natural gifts, Moise Kean didn't settle on Merseyside and needs away. We can play hard ball with his contract and he might be on our books for another couple of years, running down his contract or getting injured.

If we recoup his fee and most of what we've paid him, whilst removing his wages from our liabilities list, we can put it down to experience and invest in better.

He reminds me in a way of Veron at Manchester Utd 20 years ago. He was brilliant everywhere else in the world but not in England.

As one of the old heroes from across the park who did the Anglo/Italian switch the other way famously said, "It's like being in another country."

Ray, Sam, and all, just seen my Fan Sided Daily Update with Toffee TV's Barry Cass stating that Everton are the forerunners for his signature, stating Marcel Brands' penchant for South American players could have a big influence on the situation. He certainly looks a great prospect even though he has only played a limited number of games already, is definitely the right age. He has been compared to Kante but quicker and with more desire to get forward. Great control, tackling and passing ability too.

Slightly off topic but the link with Adrien Rabiot has surfaced again, and would be a much more attractive proposition than Khedira and 8 years younger. The only thing there he is supposed to be difficult to deal with and having his Mum as his agent doesn't help either, but Juventus are looking to get him off the books as soon as is possible. (allegedly)

Thomas, Jay will chip in I'm sure but the Brazil based toffees were really talking up Gabigol when he was last linked. He's matured back in Brazil after a difficult period in Europe. Certainly talented and lots of end product. Played wide right earlier in his career but has moved into CF position. Might be good signing.

Otherwise, Amad Diallo shows Man Utd trying to build some depth in quality coming through - along with Uruguayan Pellestri. They've been stung with little return from high cost established players. Sounds familiar.

Kean, in my view, is a good signing. He suffered from us being a complete mess, DCL getting much better than expected and COVID-19. But, even with all that, we will still make money on him. These are good sorts of signings that give us access to potentially world class players who will kick us on, instead of players like Josh King who add a bit of depth but no great quality.

Caicedo looks like a beast on YouTube. Strong, great weighted incisive passing too with some skill. Looks a great prospect.

Martin@23, another player in regards to Veron was Diego Forlan, seemed a decent player everywhere, apart from his limited time at Utd.

Will be interesting to see what Moyes does in the transfer market this window.

He's moved on Haller and I can only assume that is to free up funds to bring players in. Probably a striker. And whilst buying strikers was never his strong point there is no doubt that Moyes can be a shrewd operator in the transfer market.

I bring this up because I'd still like to see us attempt to make shrewd signings. By that I don't mean young players with potential who maybe could be an asset in the future. I mean thinking outside the box to bring a player in who is ready right now.

Soucek is a player I highlighted a long while back on this website. I was surprised at the value he actually went for but no doubt he has been a shrewd success. 8 goals in 30 games from midfield and a constant threat. Box to box. Not the greatest player in the world but I think he'd get a game for us, and I felt that the first time I saw him play.

Just read your earlier post on Romelu Lukaku, Tommy, and agree with you that I'd sooner see a quality footballer, rather than someone who just runs around a lot.

I'd say Lukaku has some very good attributes that could make him become a really top player but I don't ever think it will happen because he doesn't work hard enough on a regular basis to become one of the better players of his generation.